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Gallofa
Jan 5th, 2010, 03:17 PM
Or not.

:lol:

Let's see what they can do this year together! :D I hope they can get off to a good start wherever it is that they are playing first.

Dave.
Jan 5th, 2010, 03:40 PM
Lisa and Rennae might be better off getting different partners for the clay season. Somehow I don't see them both nearly 40 yrs old winning in Paris. :sad: Wimbledon will be a different story though. :armed:


I think they're starting at Sydney next week! :drool:

burn
Jan 5th, 2010, 03:57 PM
You believe anyone can defeat Virginia Ruano Pascual in doubles at Roland Garros??
I don't think so... well, maybe Timi&Tax :D:D

CrossCourt~Rally
Jan 5th, 2010, 08:30 PM
It would be freaking amazing if they won the French :lol::worship:. I'm really excited to see how they start out next week in Sydney :cool:.

ArturoAce.
Jan 5th, 2010, 09:48 PM
It would be freaking amazing if they won the French :lol::worship:. I'm really excited to see how they start out next week in Sydney :cool:.

me too :drool:

Kuilli
Jan 10th, 2010, 06:03 PM
Not such a good start. :( They are obviously just warming up and saving the best for the clay season. ;)

Gallofa
Jan 10th, 2010, 07:03 PM
Not such a good start. :( They are obviously just warming up and saving the best for the clay season. ;)

I tell you, they are only concerned about the Grand Slams, particularly, the French ;)

Can we post pics on here? I have not posted in a while and am not sure about the rules... anyway, if we are not allowed, let me know.

Here's Raymond/Stubbs practicing in Sydney. You can inmediately tell there is something wrong with them and why they did not win... they are too PALE! :lol: Geez, with their experience, you'd hope they realised only tanned people win down under (a sign that they have spent December actually practicing in Australia :p).

http://www.medibankinternational.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/stubbsraymond070110.jpg

(WC) Dellacqua/Rezai (AUS/FRA) d. (2) Raymond/Stubbs (USA/AUS) 75 46 106

burn
Jan 10th, 2010, 07:55 PM
:eek: Lindsay should lose some weight and Rennae should gain some.

ArturoAce.
Jan 10th, 2010, 08:14 PM
:eek: Lindsay should lose some weight and Rennae should gain some.

Lisa:p

Kuilli
Jan 10th, 2010, 11:46 PM
I tell you, they are only concerned about the Grand Slams, particularly, the French ;)

Can we post pics on here? I have not posted in a while and am not sure about the rules... anyway, if we are not allowed, let me know.
You must be right. There can't be another reason for this loss. ;)

Sure you can. I have paid off all the admins. :angel:

Here's Raymond/Stubbs practicing in Sydney. You can inmediately tell there is something wrong with them and why they did not win... they are too PALE! :lol: Geez, with their experience, you'd hope they realised only tanned people win down under (a sign that they have spent December actually practicing in Australia :p).
You didn't expect Lisa to spend all that time in Australia? :eek: Philadelphia is so much nicer this time of the year. :lol: But don't you worry, they will have the tan going by the time AO starts. ;)

stubbsy71
Jan 12th, 2010, 11:19 AM
The above photo says it all - Lisa legs !!!!!!!!!!!

Gallofa
Jan 12th, 2010, 06:20 PM
The above photo says it all - Lisa legs !!!!!!!!!!!

Now, don't you start :( ;)

Isn't this fun, all the oldies in here :lol: - tell us something we don't know, stubbsy71.

Gallofa
Jan 12th, 2010, 06:25 PM
You must be right. There can't be another reason for this loss. ;)

Sure you can. I have paid off all the admins. :angel:

You didn't expect Lisa to spend all that time in Australia? :eek: Philadelphia is so much nicer this time of the year. :lol: But don't you worry, they will have the tan going by the time AO starts. ;)

Good, good. I am certainly not above bribery :lol:. I expect Lisa to work on her tan with the utmost dedication... preferably on the tennis court and not at the hotel pool.

Where's geewhiz??? :sad: Doesn't she luuuuurve us anymore? :lol:

burn
Jan 12th, 2010, 06:42 PM
Lisa:p

I know..! It's always the same,,! Because of FWTT, I always think her first name is Lindsay...

stubbsy71
Jan 12th, 2010, 07:41 PM
Would be more than my life is worth to give gossip on here - a certain person may find out and string me up :angel:

Kuilli
Jan 12th, 2010, 07:48 PM
The above photo says it all - Lisa legs !!!!!!!!!!!
It's all that cooking her girlfriend does... ;)

Good, good. I am certainly not above bribery :lol:. I expect Lisa to work on her tan with the utmost dedication... preferably on the tennis court and not at the hotel pool.
Bribery works miracles at times. :angel: Oh, what's wrong with the pool? Aren't you supposed to get a better tan near the water anyway? ;)

Where's geewhiz??? :sad: Doesn't she luuuuurve us anymore? :lol:
Don't know. She might still lurve you. :p I'm probably not that lucky. ;)

Would be more than my life is worth to give gossip on here - a certain person may find out and string me up :angel:
Oh, we'll just blame it all on Bea. :p That certain person would have to go to Madrid to find Bea, and we know Madrid is not that certain person's favorite place. ;)

Gallofa
Jan 12th, 2010, 09:45 PM
I know..! It's always the same,,! Because of FWTT, I always think her first name is Lindsay...

Not scoring any brownie points with us, you know ;) - it's the least we should ask of anyone that comes into this thread: knowing their first names.

Now, for the true fans, what are Raymond/Stubbs MIDDLE names? :lol: (do they have middle names? ) Now that I asked that, I keep thinking one of them is named Patty? :lol:

Gallofa
Jan 12th, 2010, 09:50 PM
Would be more than my life is worth to give gossip on here - a certain person may find out and string me up :angel:

Which means there IS gossip to tell. Excellent. But let's not be too pushy. Let's start with something simple, like, what tournaments are they playing? And more importantly, are they playing Madrid? ;) (Kuilli doesn't know what she's saying, everyone loves Madrid.)

edificio
Jan 12th, 2010, 10:11 PM
How old is Lisa Raymond? She does seem to be on the other side of fit, but sometimes you can't tell. Are they teaming up for old time's sake?

burn
Jan 12th, 2010, 10:13 PM
Not scoring any brownie points with us, you know ;) - it's the least we should ask of anyone that comes into this thread: knowing their first names.

Now, for the true fans, what are Raymond/Stubbs MIDDLE names? :lol: (do they have middle names? ) Now that I asked that, I keep thinking one of them is named Patty? :lol:

You know... I like Rennae, really... a lot... but I'm not such a fan of Lisa (just wanted to write Lindsay again). That's why I cannot remember her name and still visite this thread. I prefered the Stosur/Stubbs version!

Gallofa
Jan 12th, 2010, 10:17 PM
You know... I like Rennae, really... a lot... but I'm not such a fan of Lisa (just wanted to write Lindsay again). That's why I cannot remember her name and still visite this thread. I prefered the Stosur/Stubbs version!

:lol:

I liked Raymond/Stosur best too!

No problem. You can call her Lindsay ;) We are split even in this thread, I suspect. Me, I am a mostly a Lisa fan, stubbsy71 is a Rennae fan (and a closet Lisa fan), and Kuilli is just here to laugh at us :p.

Gallofa
Jan 12th, 2010, 10:18 PM
How old is Lisa Raymond? She does seem to be on the other side of fit, but sometimes you can't tell. Are they teaming up for old time's sake?

I think she's 43.

:lol:

Kuilli
Jan 12th, 2010, 10:33 PM
...and Kuilli is just here to laugh at us :p.
Ain't that the truth. :lol: :angel:

Kuilli
Jan 12th, 2010, 10:38 PM
Which means there IS gossip to tell. Excellent. But let's not be too pushy. Let's start with something simple, like, what tournaments are they playing? And more importantly, are they playing Madrid? ;) (Kuilli doesn't know what she's saying, everyone loves Madrid.)
Yeah, do tell us something about their schedule, Karen. :) I really want to go see them play somewhere this year. :cool:

Madrid was alright. I still like Barcelona better. :p But you can convince me otherwise if I get to come back. ;)

nevetssllim
Jan 12th, 2010, 10:45 PM
http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/EN/betting/t/3046/Medibank-International---WTA-Sydney-Doubles.html

According to William Hill betting, Rennae Stubbs has jumped ship and is playing with Casey Dellacqua ;)

Kuilli
Jan 12th, 2010, 10:59 PM
http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/EN/betting/t/3046/Medibank-International---WTA-Sydney-Doubles.html

According to William Hill betting, Rennae Stubbs has jumped ship and is playing with Casey Dellacqua ;)
Oh, lucky Rennae. She gets to play with two different partners in the same tournament. :lol: How much did she have to pay to Rezai to take her place? ;)

stubbsy71
Jan 12th, 2010, 11:22 PM
Oh don't get my hopes up that she's dumped Lisa ............

Kuilli
Jan 12th, 2010, 11:32 PM
Oh don't get my hopes up that she's dumped Lisa ............
You know you love her... :p

Kuilli
Jan 13th, 2010, 10:03 AM
Btw, did you see you are #3 in the new tennis poker singles ranking, Bea? :lol: You have clearly bribed the Doc. :p

http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=399176

geewhiz
Jan 13th, 2010, 01:18 PM
Where's geewhiz??? :sad: Doesn't she luuuuurve us anymore? :lol:
Indeed when did I ever? :p

Interesting to see Lisa and Rennae playing together again :D I hope they do well, although it seems a partnership established more on the basis of sentimentality than practicality to me, but perhaps I am wrong... Do tell us what you know of their schedule, stubbsy71.

I know Lindsay Davenport's middle name, but not anyone else's :o

Gallofa
Jan 13th, 2010, 01:35 PM
Indeed when did I ever? :p

Interesting to see Lisa and Rennae playing together again :D I hope they do well, although it seems a partnership established more on the basis of sentimentality than practicality to me, but perhaps I am wrong... Do tell us what you know of their schedule, stubbsy71.

I know Lindsay Davenport's middle name, but not anyone else's :o

I am sorry, but that is just so random. Why do you know Lindsay's middle name? and what is it? let me guess. Mary?

Yeah. Can't see them doing very well, but who knows? We're already having fun regardless :p

Good to see you, geewhiz! :D

Gallofa
Jan 13th, 2010, 01:37 PM
Btw, did you see you are #3 in the new tennis poker singles ranking, Bea? :lol: You have clearly bribed the Doc. :p

http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=399176

Of course I am. You and geewhiz have plenty of strategy, but you can't beat my combination of old geezers and Spanish claycourt-ers!

geewhiz
Jan 13th, 2010, 02:03 PM
I am sorry, but that is just so random. Why do you know Lindsay's middle name? and what is it? let me guess. Mary?
It is Anne or Ann. I know this because I am a big fan of course I think it must have been someone's username or something. I can't imagine I would have actively sought this information.

Good to see you, geewhiz! :D
And you! :D I heard you were looking for me :scared:

You managed to get Kuilli to come to Madrid?! ;)

Gallofa
Jan 13th, 2010, 05:17 PM
Kuilli went to Madrid, but did not tell me :( :p - was probably afraid :lol:! (I've met internet people and they lived to tell :p).

Another look at Raymond/Stubbs in Sydney

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/2010+Medibank+International+Day+1+ZR-oB2f5o9bl.jpg

Another clue of why they lost. Look where Lisa is standing :p (shouldn't be Rennae covering 75% of the court?? ;))

[RS]: Mine!
[LR]: I hope she lets me hit one this set.

Kuilli
Jan 13th, 2010, 05:47 PM
Of course I am. You and geewhiz have plenty of strategy, but you can't beat my combination of old geezers and Spanish claycourt-ers!
It's a fluke. :p We all know that. :angel:

I don't know anybody's middle names. Oh, I do know geewhiz's. ;)

Kuilli
Jan 13th, 2010, 05:50 PM
It is Anne or Ann. I know this because I am a big fan of course I think it must have been someone's username or something. I can't imagine I would have actively sought this information.
Isn't that also her mom's name?

You managed to get Kuilli to come to Madrid?! ;)
Actually, she didn't. I went there all on my own. :angel:

Kuilli
Jan 13th, 2010, 05:54 PM
Kuilli went to Madrid, but did not tell me :( :p - was probably afraid :lol:! (I've met internet people and they lived to tell :p).
True. ;) Plus, I was also very sick and miserable most of my time there. :(

stubbsy71
Jan 13th, 2010, 06:00 PM
Ok message from Rennae - playing Oz Open, Dubai, Palm Springs, Miami, then the usual .......... yep all with Lisa :help:

Njay16
Jan 13th, 2010, 06:13 PM
Ok message from Rennae - playing Oz Open, Dubai, Palm Springs, Miami, then the usual .......... yep all with Lisa :help:

Why don't you like Lisa?

Kuilli
Jan 13th, 2010, 06:43 PM
Ok message from Rennae - playing Oz Open, Dubai, Palm Springs, Miami, then the usual .......... yep all with Lisa :help:
Thanks. :D Hmmm... none of those work for me. :( Too bad they don't want to play Paris before Dubai. I guess I have to wait and see what comes after that. ;)

Gallofa
Jan 13th, 2010, 07:00 PM
Why don't you like Lisa?

It's quite obvious: stubbsy71 has terrible taste when it comes to tennis favourites. :p

I wonder what "the usual" tournaments will turn out to be. I am hoping to catch a bit more tennis this year, now that I finally have tenure. Hopefully, the usual include some of my usual :lol:.

Kuilli
Jan 13th, 2010, 07:10 PM
I wonder what "the usual" tournaments will turn out to be. I am hoping to catch a bit more tennis this year, now that I finally have tenure. Hopefully, the usual include some of my usual :lol:.
It's clearly not Madrid. :p Probably Charleston and then something in Europe. ;) What kind of system do you have in Spain? How can you have tenure so quickly? :p It takes years in US.

stubbsy71
Jan 13th, 2010, 07:52 PM
Actually Rennae loves Madrid now. I think she spends a lot of time with Conchita there. I think you will need to look at what Rennae played last year and it will be pretty much the same. I'm not 100% sure if she will play team tennis, but she does have an habit of talking herself into it.

Kuilli
Jan 13th, 2010, 08:03 PM
Good for her. ;) I'll take a look at where she played last spring. Can't remember any more.

Dave.
Jan 13th, 2010, 08:08 PM
She didn't play last spring! Nothing between Miami and Rome. :( Lisa has so many points to defend aswell because for some reason she couldn't get enough of the clay tournaments and did well in most of them too. So hopefully Lisa will persuade Rennae to play the green clay and Warsaw tournaments with her. ;) (or get a better claycourt player to play with :secret:)

Kuilli
Jan 13th, 2010, 08:08 PM
OK, Rome, Madrid, RG, EB and Wimbledon. I can probably make one of them at least. :)

Kuilli
Jan 13th, 2010, 08:09 PM
She didn't play last spring! Nothing between Miami and Rome. :( Lisa has so many points to defend aswell because for some reason she couldn't get enough of the clay tournaments and did well in most of them too. So hopefully Lisa will persuade Rennae to play the green clay and Warsaw tournaments with her. ;) (or get a better claycourt player to play with :secret:)
Rome is still officially in the spring. :p But yeah, I'm all for more tournaments for those two. More places to choose from for me. ;)

Dave.
Jan 13th, 2010, 08:18 PM
Rome is still officially in the spring. :p But yeah, I'm all for more tournaments for those two. More places to choose from for me. ;)

In tennis terms I count it as basically the summer. ;)

Come to think of it, I wouldn't mind a limited clay schedule to save their energy for Wimby because I already know that's the only chance I'll have to see them play. :angel:

Kuilli
Jan 13th, 2010, 08:24 PM
In tennis terms I count it as basically the summer. ;)

Come to think of it, I wouldn't mind a limited clay schedule to save their energy for Wimby because I already know that's the only chance I'll have to see them play. :angel:
I went by actual seasons. ;)

I would. :p I probably have a better chance seeing a clay court tournament in Europe than grass in UK.

Gallofa
Jan 13th, 2010, 08:54 PM
AO qualifying draws are out! Who is everyone supporting? Let's see. I am pulling for:

Dominguez Lino
Gullickson
Camerin
Llagostera Vives
Stevenson (!!!) :D
Matteck
Bovina (!!!) :D
Osterloh

Plus the random Spanish people in the draw: Compostizo de Andres and Soler Espinosa.

Wonder if Lisa will be playing with Marcin again in the mixed.

Kuilli
Jan 13th, 2010, 09:07 PM
Oh, I haven't seen it yet. There must be no Estonians in it since you didn't write any names down. ;)

Gallofa
Jan 13th, 2010, 09:12 PM
Oh, I haven't seen it yet. There must be no Estonians in it since you didn't write any names down. ;)

Ahem.

Certainly. No Estonians.

:o

Gallofa
Jan 13th, 2010, 09:13 PM
In tennis terms I count it as basically the summer. ;)

Come to think of it, I wouldn't mind a limited clay schedule to save their energy for Wimby because I already know that's the only chance I'll have to see them play. :angel:

We should do a Wimbledon meet-up of all Raymond/Stubbs fans (yeah, yeah, all 3 of us :p). That'd be fun.

Kuilli
Jan 13th, 2010, 09:15 PM
Ahem.

Certainly. No Estonians.

:o
They must be all in the main draw then, obviously. ;)

Kuilli
Jan 13th, 2010, 09:16 PM
We should do a Wimbledon meet-up of all Raymond/Stubbs fans (yeah, yeah, all 3 of us :p). That'd be fun.
Well, it would be you, Dave and stubbsy. :lol: ;)

stubbsy71
Jan 13th, 2010, 09:34 PM
Rennae does quite a bit of work for the tennis channel. It's quite possible Lisa may play with other people. I think Rennae's main aim is to win one more tournament, she's wanting her 60th.
I think I may be in Florida during Wimbledon, what a great shame!

Kuilli
Jan 13th, 2010, 09:42 PM
Ok, my list:

Yanina Wickmayer
Lindsay Lee-Waters
Aniko Kapros
Shenay Perry
Nuria Llagostera Vives
Renata Voracova
Arantxa Rus
Sofia Arvidsson
Marta Domachowska
Eleni Daniilidou
Bethanie Mattek-Sands
Severine Beltrame
Elena Bovina
Rika Fujiwara
Camille Pin
Stephanie Foretz
Lilia Osterloh

I feel almost like a real tennis fan now. :lol: ;)

Kuilli
Jan 13th, 2010, 09:44 PM
Rennae does quite a bit of work for the tennis channel. It's quite possible Lisa may play with other people. I think Rennae's main aim is to win one more tournament, she's wanting her 60th.
I think I may be in Florida during Wimbledon, what a great shame!
Oh, I don't have the tennis channel any longer. :(

I have no idea where I would be during the Wimbledon. :lol:

Gallofa
Jan 20th, 2010, 08:11 PM
Raymond/Stubbs d. Koryttseva/Kustova 6-4 6-1

http://www.australianopen.com/images/pics/large/b_YarmondStubbs_20_01.jpg

Dave.
Jan 20th, 2010, 08:34 PM
All black in that heat? :unsure:

It seems they didn't quite get the matching colours right yesterday. :p

Gallofa
Jan 20th, 2010, 09:13 PM
All black in that heat? :unsure:

It seems they didn't quite get the matching colours right yesterday. :p

I know! I am terribly disappointed in their fashion statement. This is clearly a subpar effort . (Although the last time they won the AO they were horribly mis-matched too) :lol:

Dave.
Jan 21st, 2010, 01:22 PM
I know! I am terribly disappointed in their fashion statement. This is clearly a subpar effort . (Although the last time they won the AO they were horribly mis-matched too) :lol:


Lisa's blue pleated skirt was just horrendous. :sobbing:

Gallofa
Jan 21st, 2010, 07:33 PM
Lisa's blue pleated skirt was just horrendous. :sobbing:

Yeah :lol:. Not her best look.

Just found a pic of Lisa's last doubles title - let's hope she can get a few more this year with Stubbs

http://www.40love.jp/news_pro/img/2425/MDkxMDE4LTg4MQP-.jpg

Gallofa
Jan 26th, 2010, 11:18 AM
AO semis!! :D

Can they beat the Williams? ;)

Kuilli
Jan 26th, 2010, 10:46 PM
AO semis!! :D

Can they beat the Williams? ;)
Probably not. :lol: But it's awesome that they are in the semis. :D

sarsmile
Jan 27th, 2010, 07:02 AM
I see all the old Lisa fans have peered out of the woodwork, so I figured I should poke my head in too. Perhaps the retro-partnership has inspired all the retro-fans?

Here's hoping they at least put up a good showing against the Williamses.

Kuilli
Jan 27th, 2010, 07:12 PM
And here I was thinking you had left us for good. ;)

When is the semi? Tomorrow? I haven't checked the schedule.

Gallofa
Jan 27th, 2010, 07:37 PM
I see all the old Lisa fans have peered out of the woodwork, so I figured I should poke my head in too. Perhaps the retro-partnership has inspired all the retro-fans?

Here's hoping they at least put up a good showing against the Williamses.

:wavey:

Heeeey. Great to 'see' you. :lol:

I think the semi is tonight, last match of the day on a show court... probably something like 6 am european time.

Kuilli
Jan 27th, 2010, 10:34 PM
I'll be sleeping that time for sure. I don't have internet access in my room anyway, so no point staying up. ;)

Wannabeknowitall
Jan 28th, 2010, 06:04 AM
:wavey:

Heeeey. Great to 'see' you. :lol:

I think the semi is tonight, last match of the day on a show court... probably something like 6 am european time.

Closer to 7. :wavey:

I find a little irony in this pairing, well their name.
Lisa has stubby legs and Rennae reminds you of a Raymond. :lol:

stubbsy71
Jan 28th, 2010, 11:56 AM
Hey didn't they do well - no big surprise with the result, but at least they've gone out to the tournament winners

Gallofa
Jan 28th, 2010, 02:28 PM
Thanks, Wannabeknowitall. I slept through it :lol:

Hey didn't they do well - no big surprise with the result, but at least they've gone out to the tournament winners

They did quite well. Wish I had seen them play.

Pics by stefi62

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Gallofa
Jan 28th, 2010, 02:36 PM
Lisa has blogged a couple of times in the USTA.com blog. The first one about the Raymond/Stubbs reunion is very interesting

Lisa Raymond, Jan. 25, 2010

Hi everyone.

My partner Rennae Stubbs and I got through on Monday, 7-5, 6-3, over Monica Niculescu and Yung-Jan Chan. We're playing really well and feel pretty good about our chances.

The game has completely changed since I came on tour in 1993, both inside the locker room and on the court. I've had to completely change my game in doubles to keep up because there are only a few girls who serve and volley any more, and it seems like everyone can crush the ball from the backcourt. I've had to add topspin to my forehand to hit a heavier ball, and the way you cross, return serve and even volley have changed. We use the short volley much more than we used to because so many girls are staying back.

I'm 36 now, but I still I think I can win Grand Slam titles [Raymond owns 68 titles overall and a career Grand Slam]. Knock on wood, I'm healthy and still love to compete and think I've improved a lot.

I got really lucky that Rennae agreed to team up with me again this year. Last year was one of the toughest of my career because my partner, Kveta Peschke, was hurt most of the time, so I spent the last six months fishing around for partners, and that's no fun. I was going to team up with Yaroslava Shvedova, who is really talented, and kind of tutor her like I did with Sam Stosur, but she ended up pulling out of it, and it was a mess.

It's been great playing with Rennae again. I talked to my coach and different people, and Rennae and I talked to each other and set our boundaries to figure out how it was going to work this time around. We're both in similar places in our careers, and it's all gravy for us. We hang out a bit but also go to our separate corners, and she's been great on court.

I'm a big believer in things happening for a reason, and maybe we are destined to end our careers together. She's 38, and I'm 36, so I might have another year of playing than she does, but who knows? I'm not planning way ahead, just month-to-month, and until my body and mind tell me it's time to stop and I'm not motivated any more, I'm going to keep playing.

It's been a long time since I came on tour in 1993, but I'm in such a good position because I can pick and choose where I want to play. I'm not playing a crazy 30 tournaments a year. I'll go to Australia, Dubai, Indian Wells -- c'mon, who am I to complain? I'm extremely blessed. I do what I do well and make a very good living doing it. I try not to be on the road more than three weeks at a time, and then I'll go home to Philly or go train in L.A. with my coach, Raj Chaudhuri. I know I'm never going to play my best if I can't go home and recharge. I like being home and back in the States, surrounded by friends and family -- the normal life.

Some of the young players go week to week and just grind, and they have to understand that you can't chase a ranking and you can't chase points. When you get into that mentality, you'll never prosper. You have to get away.

The tour has changed so much. There are so many agents, parents and trainers, and it seems like everyone has an entourage of at least five people. It's insane. A player will have a physio, trainer, coach, agent, then a parent or two, and that's their world, and they don't interact with other players. When I came on tour, it was much friendlier, but it was an older tour back then. We had Jennifer Capriati and Lindsay Davenport as kids, but they were anomalies. Now 15 to 18 years old is the median age.

Unfortunately, we are judged on our results, but at the end of the day, it's about winning or losing. It's the truth. Then you have all the money and endorsements and players who are supporting their families and parents who don't work. It's a joke, and it's scary.

If I stay healthy, tennis beats anything else, and I'll keep going. I suppose I could coach, but it would be back home because there's no way I'm going to deal with some 16-year-old prima donna who is going to tell me to get her a sandwich. That's not going to happen! I'd love to coach some little kids at a club or something like that, though. But for now, I'm loving playing. We'll see what life brings.

Wish us luck,
Lisa

http://www.usta.com/USTA/Global/Pro_Tennis/Grand_Slams/Australian_Open/Feature/2010/Americans_blog_from_Melbourne.aspx

Wannabeknowitall
Jan 28th, 2010, 03:07 PM
Lisa has blogged a couple of times in the USTA.com blog. The first one about the Raymond/Stubbs reunion is very interesting

Lisa Raymond, Jan. 25, 2010

Hi everyone.

My partner Rennae Stubbs and I got through on Monday, 7-5, 6-3, over Monica Niculescu and Yung-Jan Chan. We're playing really well and feel pretty good about our chances.

The game has completely changed since I came on tour in 1993, both inside the locker room and on the court. I've had to completely change my game in doubles to keep up because there are only a few girls who serve and volley any more, and it seems like everyone can crush the ball from the backcourt. I've had to add topspin to my forehand to hit a heavier ball, and the way you cross, return serve and even volley have changed. We use the short volley much more than we used to because so many girls are staying back.

I'm 36 now, but I still I think I can win Grand Slam titles [Raymond owns 68 titles overall and a career Grand Slam]. Knock on wood, I'm healthy and still love to compete and think I've improved a lot.

I got really lucky that Rennae agreed to team up with me again this year. Last year was one of the toughest of my career because my partner, Kveta Peschke, was hurt most of the time, so I spent the last six months fishing around for partners, and that's no fun. I was going to team up with Yaroslava Shvedova, who is really talented, and kind of tutor her like I did with Sam Stosur, but she ended up pulling out of it, and it was a mess.

It's been great playing with Rennae again. I talked to my coach and different people, and Rennae and I talked to each other and set our boundaries to figure out how it was going to work this time around. We're both in similar places in our careers, and it's all gravy for us. We hang out a bit but also go to our separate corners, and she's been great on court.

I'm a big believer in things happening for a reason, and maybe we are destined to end our careers together. She's 38, and I'm 36, so I might have another year of playing than she does, but who knows? I'm not planning way ahead, just month-to-month, and until my body and mind tell me it's time to stop and I'm not motivated any more, I'm going to keep playing.

It's been a long time since I came on tour in 1993, but I'm in such a good position because I can pick and choose where I want to play. I'm not playing a crazy 30 tournaments a year. I'll go to Australia, Dubai, Indian Wells -- c'mon, who am I to complain? I'm extremely blessed. I do what I do well and make a very good living doing it. I try not to be on the road more than three weeks at a time, and then I'll go home to Philly or go train in L.A. with my coach, Raj Chaudhuri. I know I'm never going to play my best if I can't go home and recharge. I like being home and back in the States, surrounded by friends and family -- the normal life.

Some of the young players go week to week and just grind, and they have to understand that you can't chase a ranking and you can't chase points. When you get into that mentality, you'll never prosper. You have to get away.

The tour has changed so much. There are so many agents, parents and trainers, and it seems like everyone has an entourage of at least five people. It's insane. A player will have a physio, trainer, coach, agent, then a parent or two, and that's their world, and they don't interact with other players. When I came on tour, it was much friendlier, but it was an older tour back then. We had Jennifer Capriati and Lindsay Davenport as kids, but they were anomalies. Now 15 to 18 years old is the median age.

Unfortunately, we are judged on our results, but at the end of the day, it's about winning or losing. It's the truth. Then you have all the money and endorsements and players who are supporting their families and parents who don't work. It's a joke, and it's scary.

If I stay healthy, tennis beats anything else, and I'll keep going. I suppose I could coach, but it would be back home because there's no way I'm going to deal with some 16-year-old prima donna who is going to tell me to get her a sandwich. That's not going to happen! I'd love to coach some little kids at a club or something like that, though. But for now, I'm loving playing. We'll see what life brings.

Wish us luck,
Lisa

http://www.usta.com/USTA/Global/Pro_Tennis/Grand_Slams/Australian_Open/Feature/2010/Americans_blog_from_Melbourne.aspx

From what I can see it seems that Lisa might give it one more go at the Olympics in London.
I don't see Stubbs retiring this year but she might do it next year so, Lisa will probably have a different partner in 2012, which might work out well for her.

SVK
Jan 28th, 2010, 03:42 PM
"I suppose I could coach, but it would be back home because there's no way I'm going to deal with some 16-year-old prima donna who is going to tell me to get her a sandwich"

:sobbing:

Uranium
Jan 28th, 2010, 03:53 PM
Lisa of course you have more slams in you. Your big shot is the 2010 Aussie Open Mixed Doubles, so you better win it:p

Gallofa
Jan 28th, 2010, 09:46 PM
"I suppose I could coach, but it would be back home because there's no way I'm going to deal with some 16-year-old prima donna who is going to tell me to get her a sandwich"

:sobbing:

I found that bit quite hilarious as well :lol:. Does she have anyone in mind, I wonder?

stubbsy71
Jan 28th, 2010, 10:07 PM
Rennae's been fetching her too many sandwiches looking at her legs

Gallofa
Jan 28th, 2010, 10:46 PM
Rennae's been fetching her too many sandwiches looking at her legs

Why is everyone so obssesed with Lisa's legs? :lol: They are just... well, legs! two of them, to be precise.

I hope the Williams go on to win the AO. Can't stand Liezel Huber :lol:.

sarsmile
Jan 29th, 2010, 01:43 AM
Somehow I don't see Rennae as the type to be fetching sandwiches either:p

Well, that was respectable at least. Quite a good showing for their second tournament, really. And Lisa has even won some matches in mixed :eek:, so all in all a good Aussie Open.

Uranium
Jan 29th, 2010, 09:25 AM
Why is everyone so obssesed with Lisa's legs? :lol: They are just... well, legs! two of them, to be precise.

I hope the Williams go on to win the AO. Can't stand Liezel Huber :lol:.

They won:)

But Lisa lost in a heartbreaker in the Mixed:(

Kuilli
Jan 29th, 2010, 05:36 PM
I found that bit quite hilarious as well :lol:. Does she have anyone in mind, I wonder?
I'm sure she has more than one in mind. :lol:

Ouch!! The mixed must have hurt. :( So close.

Gallofa
Jan 29th, 2010, 07:24 PM
:bigcry:

Moodie!!! HOLD serve! :( :p

Oh well. Almost. I haven't seen Lisa play, but this bodes well for the rest of the year. What's next for Raymond/Stubbs?

TennisFan75
Jan 29th, 2010, 07:29 PM
:bigcry:

Moodie!!! HOLD serve! :( :p

Oh well. Almost. I haven't seen Lisa play, but this bodes well for the rest of the year. What's next for Raymond/Stubbs?
Lisa has points to defend from last years final in Paris, I would imagine they are headed there. I hope so anyway.. :)

stubbsy71
Jan 29th, 2010, 07:45 PM
On and upwards to Dubai - hopefully we'll see Rennae's 60th title here

Uranium
Jan 30th, 2010, 08:08 AM
:bigcry:

Moodie!!! HOLD serve! :( :p

Oh well. Almost. I haven't seen Lisa play, but this bodes well for the rest of the year. What's next for Raymond/Stubbs?

The first time he gets broken ALL match is at 7-6(6) 5-4, the totally wrong time for that to happen:sobbing:

Uranium
Jan 30th, 2010, 04:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXB2rtR1_nQ
:awww:

Dave.
Jan 30th, 2010, 05:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXB2rtR1_nQ
:awww:

That's the sweetest thing ever. :awww: It was more sending a message and about their relationship than the tennis, which is good! The more people who do this the better. I was hoping they'd say where they plan on playing in the next couple of months though.

They seem to be in a really good place and get along so well. For a second there I thought they said they are back together. :lol:

LOL at their reasons for it being a success again. They're not winning any tournaments if not fighting is considered a success. :tape: :lol:

Gallofa
Jan 30th, 2010, 06:24 PM
Wow. That was... personal! I thought it was going to be about their tennis :p.

I think next up for them is Dubai, Indian Wells, Miami, and Charleston.... and then, Madrid at some point, of course :D. If they still are on speaking terms by them :lol:.

stubbsy71
Jan 30th, 2010, 06:45 PM
hey that was great, I remember when they were breaking up, those matches were scary. Remember Wimbledon Bea, those Lisa tears. Hehe

Kuilli
Jan 30th, 2010, 09:50 PM
Good tournament. :D Too bad they'll skip Paris. I'm thinking about heading that way. :lol:


I obviously wasn't at Wimbledon, but I saw them in San Diego that year, and that was not very nice to see. :tape: So, I better see them again. :lol:

Let us know, Karen, when they have decided on their clay schedule. :D Maybe I can sneak in a tournament before RG. ;)

SVK
Jan 30th, 2010, 09:51 PM
They will be missed:awww:

Hope they will play still some years:awww:

martinafan
Jan 30th, 2010, 10:33 PM
Awesome, awesome video. Thanks SO much for posting it! :worship:

Golovinjured.
Jan 31st, 2010, 07:10 AM
Lisa didn't look as fat as normal this fortnight.

cakiteror
Jan 31st, 2010, 07:17 AM
Thank you for the video!!!
OMG!!!
It just left me speachless!
They are trully wonderful:)

GeeTee
Jan 31st, 2010, 08:20 AM
Can't believe no-one has yet posted a link to this AO blog/interview with Lisa/Rennae...it's frickin hilarious... :lol:

http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/news/blogs/2010-01-29/201001291264740814937.html

Kuilli
Jan 31st, 2010, 09:51 AM
Can't believe no-one has yet posted a link to this AO blog/interview with Lisa/Rennae...it's frickin hilarious... :lol:

http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/news/blogs/2010-01-29/201001291264740814937.html
He-he. :lol: Thanks for posting this. :cool:

Gallofa
Jan 31st, 2010, 11:39 AM
Thanks Uranium and GeeTee :D!

Seems like the reenactment of the Raymond/Stubbs partnership has attracted a bit of a following AND some media attention. Now if they can get a title this year, we can all be happy :D!

Uranium
Jan 31st, 2010, 11:54 AM
^Well Lisa has won a title every year since 1993, barely last year, but she did win one, so 17 consecutive years:worship:

I'd love for her to win a slam this year, but then again I want the Williams Sisters to win The Grand Slam....so if they lose at one point, go Lisa especially if it's at RG and she plays with Rennae. It's been 4 years since she won her last slam and it's been 6 years since Rennae won a slam in any event:eek:

Uranium
Jan 31st, 2010, 11:55 AM
Good tournament. :D Too bad they'll skip Paris. I'm thinking about heading that way. :lol:


I obviously wasn't at Wimbledon, but I saw them in San Diego that year, and that was not very nice to see. :tape: So, I better see them again. :lol:

Let us know, Karen, when they have decided on their clay schedule. :D Maybe I can sneak in a tournament before RG. ;)

What happened? Doubles is rarely shown especially at regular tour events:(

Gallofa
Jan 31st, 2010, 12:34 PM
hey that was great, I remember when they were breaking up, those matches were scary. Remember Wimbledon Bea, those Lisa tears. Hehe

My, was that a long time ago! We first had the '4 rain delays and a tie-break' during the Martinez/Pierce match, when Rennae ABSOLUTELY refused to play the tie-break and made us all come back the following day for like 4 minutes of play. Was Rennae scary right then, or what. I also remember Mary and her "You are going to win anyway" and her chirpy "I'm going home now!" whilst virtually skipping her way to the locker room after they lost :lol:! Plus Lisa trying to make light of the whole thing and Conchita just standing around with a blank look... the usual for her, really. ;) (On a side note, weren't Martinez/Pierce just an outstanding doubles combo? :lol: Most points went: Conchita: "Yours!", Mary: "Yours!" :lol:).

Then, the Rubin/Kournikova match, which they were absolutely sailing through (so much so I think I slept through the first set) just to end up losing - I think that was on court 18? Never really liked that court.

stubbsy71
Jan 31st, 2010, 05:19 PM
They only people Ren and Lis were kidding were themselves. It was so bloody obvious to us fans. Although you and Eve were always in denial Bea. Even now you think I'm kidding you.
They are not together now though, Lisa is with her long standing partner and Rennae is currently single.

Kuilli
Jan 31st, 2010, 07:01 PM
Single? What happened to the softball player. ;)

stubbsy71
Jan 31st, 2010, 08:07 PM
Yep she's single

Kuilli
Jan 31st, 2010, 09:33 PM
Well, being single ain't that bad. I quite like it. ;)

sarsmile
Jan 31st, 2010, 09:42 PM
Hmm, that TC interview was not what I was expecting either. Kudos to them for doing it, though. It's nice to see some good role models in balancing personal and professional lives, among other things.

Gallofa
Feb 2nd, 2010, 08:04 PM
It's Fed Cup time. Lisa is not playing for US (Huber is :p). Stubbs plays for Australia, against Spain (¡Vamos España! :lol:)

http://www.fedcup.com/ties/tie.asp?tie=100014384

Dave.
Feb 2nd, 2010, 08:17 PM
It's Fed Cup time. Lisa is not playing for US (Huber is :p). Stubbs plays for Australia, against Spain (¡Vamos España! :lol:)

http://www.fedcup.com/ties/tie.asp?tie=100014384

Spain will have won anyway by the time it gets to the doubles, so go Spain but go Rennae in doubles! ;)

So lucky they get to be in Adelaide when all the other ties are indoors in Europe. :o

Kuilli
Feb 3rd, 2010, 08:03 PM
(¡Vamos España! :lol:)
Why are you not supporting Estonia? :ras:

Gallofa
Feb 4th, 2010, 11:10 AM
Dave, you never know! Australia also has good players (I think Stosur is playing, right?). But I hope Spain wins!

Why are you not supporting Estonia? :ras:

What, are they playing? :lol:

Kuilli
Feb 4th, 2010, 08:27 PM
What, are they playing? :lol:
:rolleyes: Pffff!!! They are in the world group 2 this year. :D So yeah, they are playing.... against Argentina in Tallinn. :lol:

Gallofa
Feb 6th, 2010, 12:19 PM
AUS 1-1 ESP :D

http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetid=RDM40214.756876875&blobType=landscape

http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetid=RDM40214.7533406481&blobType=landscape

http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetid=RDM40214.7508681597&blobType=landscape

http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetid=RDM40214.5743628935&blobType=landscape

Is that Alicia Molik in the first pic? (centre) I can't tell.

stubbsy71
Feb 6th, 2010, 05:29 PM
Cool photos - Ren's been to the Molly Dooker wine place testing the velvet glove - I'm surprised team Oz didn't have handovers

Gallofa
Feb 7th, 2010, 11:32 AM
AUS 3 - 2 ESP :( ;)

http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetid=RDM40216.9551285764&blobType=portait

http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetid=RDM40216.9146376736&blobType=landscape

Stosur won all 3 matches she played... :mad: ;) not sure what this means for Spain, I sure hope we are not relegated to whatever level of Fed Cup Estonia is playing at :lol:.

Uranium
Feb 7th, 2010, 12:35 PM
You'd want them to be where Estonia is:lol: Estonia has a chance come April to be in the World Group for next year:eek: They play the losers in the World Group Round 1. While Spain is regulated to being in World Group II play-offs I think along with Argentina, China and Poland or Belgium, they will in April play Slovenia, Sweden, Canada or Japan. If they win, they play in World Group II again next year and if they lose they go off to play in the Europe Zone:spit: Which is sad since they are ranked #4:lol:

stubbsy71
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:32 PM
3-2 to the mighty Oz - Go Rennae!

stubbsy71
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:45 PM
Another little video on youtube - put Rennae Stubbs Fed cup in the search. She talks about her partnership with Lisa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE5WMsWhCVU

Gallofa
Feb 7th, 2010, 04:52 PM
You'd want them to be where Estonia is:lol: Estonia has a chance come April to be in the World Group for next year:eek: They play the losers in the World Group Round 1. While Spain is regulated to being in World Group II play-offs I think along with Argentina, China and Poland or Belgium, they will in April play Slovenia, Sweden, Canada or Japan. If they win, they play in World Group II again next year and if they lose they go off to play in the Europe Zone:spit: Which is sad since they are ranked #4:lol:

Really? :lol:

Ok, so we are worse than Estonia!! :p

Thanks for the link stubbsy71. I love the accent of the journalist :lol:. Rennae's really nice too. I always struggle to fully understand aussies, but she's got a more international accent, I think.

I am hearing all this "we don't care about winning" and not believing one word of it.

Kuilli
Feb 7th, 2010, 05:01 PM
Really? :lol:

Ok, so we are worse than Estonia!! :p
You are indeed. :lol: Who would have ever thought that?! ;)

Gallofa
Feb 15th, 2010, 07:15 PM
Dubai
Court 1 (from 11.00hrs)
1. - 4. Irrelevant ;)
5. Raymond/Stubbs vs. Peschke/Srebotnik

Tough, tough match. Let's go Lisa!:bounce:... and partner :p

Dave.
Feb 15th, 2010, 08:10 PM
Well Kveta probably know just about everyone of Lisa and Rennae's tricks by now. :scared:

Another example of when this type of matchup happened: In 2008, Peschke played one week with Srebotnik, the following week with Sugiyama. In the third week she & Rennae beat Srebotnik/Sugiyama 6-2 6-0. :unsure:

Anyway, good luck Raymond/Stubbs! (still haven't landed on a combined name for them I like). Such a horrible draw though.

Gallofa
Feb 15th, 2010, 08:18 PM
Well Kveta probably know just about everyone of Lisa and Rennae's tricks by now. :scared:

Another example of when this type of matchup happened: In 2008, Peschke played one week with Srebotnik, the following week with Sugiyama. In the third week she & Rennae beat Srebotnik/Sugiyama 6-2 6-0. :unsure:

Anyway, good luck Raymond/Stubbs! (still haven't landed on a combined name for them I like). Such a horrible draw though.

Yeah, playing Peschke is not such great news, but let's see what happens. Srebotnik is very erratic, I think it all depends on how she plays. She can be brilliant or terrible. Lisa and Rennae tend to be consistent, which makes them hard to beat. Most of the time, anyway :lol:!

I heard the shopping is great in Dubai. So they shouldn't be bored if they lose early ;).

Dave.
Feb 15th, 2010, 09:24 PM
Yeah, playing Peschke is not such great news, but let's see what happens. Srebotnik is very erratic, I think it all depends on how she plays. She can be brilliant or terrible. Lisa and Rennae tend to be consistent, which makes them hard to beat. Most of the time, anyway :lol:!

I heard the shopping is great in Dubai. So they shouldn't be bored if they lose early ;).

I'm sure there had to be something more than the tennis to drag Lisa away from her beloved Memphis tournament.

stubbsy71
Feb 16th, 2010, 01:34 PM
Yep Rennae's been buying some gold - hehe. There's some photos of the girls on the dubai site, obviously doing their bit with the kids. I see you were there Bea, you look kinda cute stood with Ren amd Lis !

Gallofa
Feb 16th, 2010, 02:55 PM
Yep Rennae's been buying some gold - hehe. There's some photos of the girls on the dubai site, obviously doing their bit with the kids. I see you were there Bea, you look kinda cute stood with Ren amd Lis !

I am actually afraid to go and look for that picture you are referring to...

Gallofa
Feb 16th, 2010, 03:05 PM
http://www.barclaysdubaitennischampionships.com/News/Tennis/2010/WTA-Tournament/Barclays-Kids-Day.aspx

http://www.barclaysdubaitennischampionships.com/%7E/media/0B6B692AFE5843C8821B01EAAE635191.ashx

Hundreds Flock For Opening Dubai Duty Free Barclays Kids Day
Dubai, UAE
15.02.2010

Hundreds of school children from all over Dubai flocked in for a day of tennis with a free afternoon session to watch the stars of the Barclays Dubai Tennis Championships.

Clark Francis, with his coaches and ball kids, gave the children an hour of fun and activity on the court.

The mascots, Ace and his younger sister Annette delighted the children, and the highlight of the morning was the visit of top doubles players Rennae Stubbs and Lisa Raymond, who enjoyed playing with the aspiring children.

“We attempt to make the kids days better and better each year, and this year offered more than ever before,” said Clark Francis.
The children enjoyed a lunch at the stadium followed by an autograph session with Chinese star Li Na at the Barclays booth in the Tennis Village.

Photo Gallery (http://www.barclaysdubaitennischampionships.com/Multimedia/Photo-Landing.aspx)

Click on the Photo Gallery to see my picture :p

Kuilli
Feb 16th, 2010, 05:18 PM
You look lovely. Bit taller than I expected, though. :p

davidmario
Feb 16th, 2010, 06:00 PM
Well Kveta probably know just about everyone of Lisa and Rennae's tricks by now. :scared:

Another example of when this type of matchup happened: In 2008, Peschke played one week with Srebotnik, the following week with Sugiyama. In the third week she & Rennae beat Srebotnik/Sugiyama 6-2 6-0. :unsure:

Anyway, good luck Raymond/Stubbs! (still haven't landed on a combined name for them I like). Such a horrible draw though.

Oh I remember that:angel:
Well after today's first set I thought something like this would happen again as Srebotnik and Kveta won twice as many points as "Raymubbs"( :haha: ).
However it's sad to see the strong pairing facing each other so early in the last tournaments. Kveta and Kata should get a seeding as quick as possible.
Rennae/Lisa:hug:
We so need a match report on this!!

Dave.
May 4th, 2010, 04:29 PM
Career-slam time at RG is almost here. :bounce: :unsure:

They're leading 7-5 1-1 in Rome right now. :banana:

Uranium
May 4th, 2010, 04:49 PM
7-5 5-4.

Lisa has served up 5 aces:eek: Holding easy as well. Close this out in straights girls:cheer:

Uranium
May 5th, 2010, 03:58 PM
2-6 6-1 10-5 over Rosolska/Shvedova. SFs:cheer: Typical, they bring it against the good teams, but once they face the teams they should steam roll they struggle:lol:

Drine
May 5th, 2010, 04:29 PM
What was that first set :help: Slow start but good finish, well done Linnae :worship:

CrossCourt~Rally
May 5th, 2010, 05:05 PM
They seem to be playing well on clay atm. So who knows, maybe they'll win that elusive French title :bounce: