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HowardH
Jan 28th, 2011, 06:39 AM
Vika :hug:. I think she needs to be able to stay more calm and move on from the last error to focus on the next shot. Sometimes her emotions get a hold of her and turn one bad shot into two or three. They were unlucky to not win in straight sets, but Gisela and Flavia really lifted.

bluestorm10
Jan 28th, 2011, 06:39 AM
Vika collapsed. I'm so doubtful of her in any sort of big match. Doubles final? Really? She needed to at least keep it together in this one...

I kinda agree. Look, I hate to be such a Debbie Downer this Aussie Open, and, I've been my usual self cheering her on, etc. But even if she got to the doubles finals and even if Na is now in the singles finals, I just feel like the campaign didn't show us anything better in her game/mental strength, etc. :sad:

As they say: Next play, Vika. :)

Igor_Biscan
Jan 28th, 2011, 06:40 AM
Vika sounded so sad when she started speaking, barely audible :sad: Still a great tournament for them, they pretty much destroyed everyone they played up to a set and a half through the final

Cheer up Vika :) :)

saul1333
Jan 28th, 2011, 06:41 AM
Disgusting. That's all I can really say.

I'm just gonna take a break from tennis, tired of all these chokes. Good luck guys and I hopeto be back soon!

I'm with you..I was depressed the whole first week of the AO.

bluestorm10
Jan 28th, 2011, 06:41 AM
I think I will too (but considering how many favorites we have in common, I guess that isn't surprising).

It truly just isn't as enjoyable anymore. Watching my faves choke and lose over and over is getting quite old.

I don't think I'll stop watching. But I need to emotionally detach a bit more. Will be so much easier.

JadeFox
Jan 28th, 2011, 10:24 AM
Ugh, this is awful. I don't blame you guys for wanting to take break from tennis for a while. It's so tough to watch a fave not take their chances while others seem to have all the victories handed to them on a silver platter.

The only way this AO could be salvaged for me is if Novak or Andy wins it. And now Andy's losing. Great. :rolleyes:

Ianto_Jones
Jan 28th, 2011, 01:15 PM
http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/news/galleries/2011-01-16/201101161295143865968.html

For those of you Azarenka Fans.....this should cheer you up...if you haven't seen it yet.

Langers
Jan 28th, 2011, 03:51 PM
Vika collapsed. I'm so doubtful of her in any sort of big match. Doubles final? Really? She needed to at least keep it together in this one...
Just finished watching the final and wow, huge choke, huge. I'm honestly not sure what to say.

I agree with you, any sort of big match, there's always something preventing her from winning. She's got such an inability to stay calm when things go a bit pear shaped. She desperately needs to stay focussed and stay under control, and yet she just blows up. I can't believe they didn't win that match, Vika absolutely folded.

Disgusting it was.

Break My Rapture
Jan 28th, 2011, 04:28 PM
This is so upsetting. :crying2: How did they manage to waste this lead? :sad:

Spiritof42
Jan 28th, 2011, 05:46 PM
Now 0-3 in GS doubles finals (excluding mixed), all with different partners. This one was even worse than the 2008 AO fiasco. Dulko & Pennetta did raise their game (for one thing, they became much more active at the net), but they don't exactly have the intimidation factor of the Williams sisters, and seeing Vika (and, to a lesser extent, Maria) crumble like that was painful to say the least.

I guess we'd better get used to it.

Can't see myself taking a break from tennis though, no matter how frustrating things get. I'm just hopelessly addicted. :help:

hurricanejeanne
Jan 28th, 2011, 11:10 PM
Vika really let off the gas in this final, she was playing so well, hitting hard, taking shots at net, being aggressive and then when they were up 4-1, she let off the gas and started playing safe. And while Dulko/Pennetta did raise their game, Vika really stopped being as aggressive as she had been during the first set and a half. I just don't understand why you would do that in this kind of situation whether it singles or doubles. If the other player(s) up their levels, then too good. But this was a mental collapse from hell. Dropping serve isn't that awful, especially up 4-1. You can still break them, but when they dropped serve and Vika pulled her visor down I knew it was over.

She almost wants it too much.

I was so hopeful that if Vika and Maria had won this it would boost Vika's confidence in her singles, as her doubles usually does, and while she should still be happy with the result, she's going to be hurting because of letting another match get away like this.

And just for the record, Dulko's loopy, lobby shots are a pain in my ass. :p

hellas719
Jan 29th, 2011, 05:11 AM
I saw the first set and some of the second set and thought for sure that they would win so I went to bed :o

JamieOwen3
Jan 29th, 2011, 05:40 AM
Vika really let off the gas in this final, she was playing so well, hitting hard, taking shots at net, being aggressive and then when they were up 4-1, she let off the gas and started playing safe. And while Dulko/Pennetta did raise their game, Vika really stopped being as aggressive as she had been during the first set and a half. I just don't understand why you would do that in this kind of situation whether it singles or doubles. If the other player(s) up their levels, then too good. But this was a mental collapse from hell. Dropping serve isn't that awful, especially up 4-1. You can still break them, but when they dropped serve and Vika pulled her visor down I knew it was over.

She almost wants it too much.

I was so hopeful that if Vika and Maria had won this it would boost Vika's confidence in her singles, as her doubles usually does, and while she should still be happy with the result, she's going to be hurting because of letting another match get away like this.

And just for the record, Dulko's loopy, lobby shots are a pain in my ass. :p

ain't that the truth! would have loved to see Vikiri win this one oh well hope they pick themselves up and keep reaching these finals and winning some.

Break My Rapture
Jan 29th, 2011, 12:15 PM
Which country is Belarus playing in Fed Cup? :confused:

Andreas
Jan 29th, 2011, 12:47 PM
Which country is Belarus playing in Fed Cup? :confused:

Austria, Croatia and Greece. Apparently there is going to be a stream for the match against Austria :)

Break My Rapture
Jan 29th, 2011, 12:48 PM
Thanks!

Oh wow, nice to have a stream. :hearts:

Spiritof42
Jan 29th, 2011, 02:14 PM
Livestreams are usually limited to the two world groups, so coverage of Europe/Africa Group I would be most welcome!

JamieOwen3
Jan 30th, 2011, 08:49 AM
Vika rooting for murray in the mens final :D

@vika7 Not sure what time is mens final because I'm lost:) let's go andy!!!

hellas719
Jan 31st, 2011, 02:12 AM
Austria, Croatia and Greece. Apparently there is going to be a stream for the match against Austria :)

Greece will kick ass against Belarus :devil:

LOL jk we will probably lose 3-0 :lol:

au_sports_opinion
Jan 31st, 2011, 09:12 AM
she looks like jodie sweetin from full house,

anyone agree?

miffedmax
Feb 1st, 2011, 04:35 PM
I'm as lost as Vika. So her Fed Cup is next?

itzhak
Feb 1st, 2011, 04:54 PM
Yes, She is in Eilat, and having good time according to her recent twitter.

Tomorrow at 10:00 am Local time, Belarus is playing against Switzerland, Govortsova is first and than Vika-Bammer...

Spiritof42
Feb 2nd, 2011, 12:39 AM
Hmmm... Vika playing Bammer in Fed Cup brings back some bad memories from last year. Expecting a happier ending this time.

itzhak
Feb 2nd, 2011, 11:33 AM
Vika won 6-4 6-1, she was very happy in the end. Her mom is with her in Eilat as well some Belarus fans, Eilat is popular destiny for Belarus citizens in the winter...

Break My Rapture
Feb 2nd, 2011, 01:39 PM
:cheer:

Igor_Biscan
Feb 2nd, 2011, 02:27 PM
I watched some of this , the stream died at the end though and only restarted when she was signing autographs and getting her pictures taken with people. Nice to get a good result after last year's retirement against the same player

hurricanejeanne
Feb 2nd, 2011, 06:54 PM
:cheer:

hellas719
Feb 3rd, 2011, 03:26 AM
Vika :yeah:

Spiritof42
Feb 3rd, 2011, 03:38 AM
Good start!

Nina.
Feb 3rd, 2011, 11:05 AM
Totally missed that she already played Fed Cup :lol: but well done :yeah:

Andreas
Feb 3rd, 2011, 01:46 PM
Vika beat Pandzic :awww: 63 61, and Belarus won the match 3-0. That means they only need to win one match against Greece tomorrow to advance to the group finals and hopefully the playoff :yeah:

Nina.
Feb 3rd, 2011, 02:24 PM
:banana:

Break My Rapture
Feb 3rd, 2011, 03:58 PM
:cheer:

hurricanejeanne
Feb 3rd, 2011, 06:46 PM
:cheer:

saul1333
Feb 3rd, 2011, 06:56 PM
:yeah:

Break My Rapture
Feb 3rd, 2011, 08:40 PM
Will there be a stream for tomorrow's tie?

Spiritof42
Feb 4th, 2011, 03:56 AM
I don't think so. Belarus-Greece matches won't be played on center court according to this post (http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=19076926&postcount=126). The Sport5.co.il livestream wasn't working for me yesterday anyway.

hellas719
Feb 4th, 2011, 04:34 AM
Vika :yeah:
It's a shame that BLR will lose to Greece tomorrow :devil:. LOL jk, we couldn't even beat Austria :p

Andreas
Feb 4th, 2011, 02:17 PM
Vika beat Daniilidou 60 20 ret., and Belarus won the tie 3-0 once again :lol: Group finals will be tomorrow to determine who will progress to the WGII playoff.

Possible opponents: Switzerland, Holland and the winner from group B which is probably going to be Poland.

Break My Rapture
Feb 4th, 2011, 03:33 PM
:cheer:

Tibowbow
Feb 4th, 2011, 04:39 PM
Hello everybody :)

An article from a french tennis mag
http://thumbnails39.imagebam.com/11811/53fb7d118101291.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/53fb7d118101291)

Vikapower
Feb 4th, 2011, 05:09 PM
^^ Thanks, very nice article though it is to go in Vika's news and articles section (...) BTW there are some answers she gave I hardly believe (...) :lol: like "Je ne jure jamais" - pinnochio. :lol:

Spiritof42
Feb 4th, 2011, 06:51 PM
Vika (and Olga) kicking ass and taking names, just the way I like it. :yeah:

Belarus hasn't dropped a single set in 9 matches this week!

^^ Thanks, very nice article though it is to go in Vika's news and articles section (...) BTW there are some answers she gave I hardly believe (...) :lol: like "Je ne jure jamais" - pinnochio. :lol:
Not to mention this one: "If you get hungry at night, what do you eat?" "An apple".

Yeah, right. I'm sure she keeps a box of king-sized Snickers bars next to her bed, she just won't admit it. ;)

saul1333
Feb 4th, 2011, 07:02 PM
Belarus :cheer:

Gets Poland next

VIKA?
Feb 4th, 2011, 07:27 PM
Hey guys I'm back:wavey:
it was nice to be a bit off from TF and focusing on my exams. I see Vika is doing pretty well at the fed cup (as it should be) so yeah good luck tommorrow against Radwanska:yeah:

hellas719
Feb 5th, 2011, 02:44 AM
Well I'm very upset that Vika beat Eleni and Eleni is sick and had to retire :(
But WD to Belarus, totally deserved :yeah:

GL against Aga tomorrow! :bounce:

Jane Lane
Feb 5th, 2011, 02:50 AM
Belarus dominating :yeah:
Vika vs. Aga :drool: I'm excited. :lol:

VIKA?
Feb 5th, 2011, 11:28 AM
http://www.flatplanet.tv/%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%93%D7%95%D7%A8-%D7%97%D7%99/%D7%A1%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%98-5

stream for Vika she's playing like crap tho:o

saul1333
Feb 5th, 2011, 11:36 AM
Oh Vika :o

Break My Rapture
Feb 5th, 2011, 11:48 AM
Hm yeah she's not playing really well. :lol: :o

Break My Rapture
Feb 5th, 2011, 11:58 AM
Awesome point to win that first set. :hearts:

saul1333
Feb 5th, 2011, 11:58 AM
Playing much better when we are here :hearts:

VIKA?
Feb 5th, 2011, 11:58 AM
Yes!:inlove:

saul1333
Feb 5th, 2011, 12:55 PM
Vika won 7-5, 7-5 :hearts:

Break My Rapture
Feb 5th, 2011, 01:08 PM
Yay Vika. :cheer: Belarus finally gets out of that zone group, it was about time. :)

I missed the ending though so I didn't see Vika's cute reaction. :tears:

saul1333
Feb 5th, 2011, 01:13 PM
Awww..it was a great reaction. Hopefully an upload.

VIKA?
Feb 5th, 2011, 01:14 PM
Really happy for her and for Belarus:D:cheer: such a cute reaction when she won:lol::hearts:

who will they face then?

Andreas
Feb 5th, 2011, 01:39 PM
Yay Vika. :cheer: Belarus finally gets out of that zone group, it was about time. :)

I missed the ending though so I didn't see Vika's cute reaction. :tears:

They are not out of the group yet. There is still a playoff match to win, and that match will be against one of the losers in these 4 matches: Estonia - Spain, Slovenia - Germany, Serbia - Canada and Sweden - Ukraine.

---

What a shame Vika's match isn't "an official one." In that case we could have added another top 10 win to her list and the H2H against Aga would have been improved.

Still it was a very satisfying result :D I loved the reaction from Vika. It refreshed the memories from Miami 2009.

Break My Rapture
Feb 5th, 2011, 01:46 PM
They are not out of the group yet. There is still a playoff match to win, and that match will be against one of the losers in these 4 matches: Estonia - Spain, Slovenia - Germany, Serbia - Canada and Sweden - Ukraine.
I thought this was the playoff match. :unsure: :o

Jane Lane
Feb 5th, 2011, 01:55 PM
It was the playoff match to get into the WG2 playoffs. :lol: Oh Fed Cup.

Break My Rapture
Feb 5th, 2011, 02:03 PM
:crying2:

Igor_Biscan
Feb 5th, 2011, 02:32 PM
Great for her confidence to come through a tough match against a good player. And to come back in both sets, well done Vika

Temperenka
Feb 5th, 2011, 03:39 PM
I hope to see some highlights!!

Delfii
Feb 5th, 2011, 04:44 PM
Yay Vika :cheer:

itzhak
Feb 5th, 2011, 05:43 PM
http://sports.walla.co.il/?w=/325/1789186

Spiritof42
Feb 5th, 2011, 06:32 PM
Great week for the girls from BLR, shame I didn't get to see any of their matches. 11-0, all in straight sets. :cheer:

hurricanejeanne
Feb 5th, 2011, 07:22 PM
Belarusian Queen :cheer: :inlove:

Vikapower
Feb 5th, 2011, 09:12 PM
It's frustrating to not be able to see Fed Cup matches from other countries but anyway it's great to see Vika winning.

What a shame Vika's match isn't "an official one." In that case we could have added another top 10 win to her list and the H2H against Aga would have been improved.

:lol: To be honest I don't think Aga will have a win over Vika anytime soon could be official or unofficial. Vika corrected her H2H to Aga since a long time in Dubaï then in Eastbourne to be 4-2 (unofficially 5-2 :lol:) anyways there are players for whom Victoria is just too much Bartoli, Sam, Lucie and Aga.

hellas719
Feb 6th, 2011, 01:51 AM
BLR :hearts:
@Andreas: No. It depends on who is seeded and who is not from the losers of the World Group 2 ties and Belarus, Switzerland, Japan, and Argentina. Belarus will be unseeded though, which means that they will play one of the 4 seeds (potentially Serbia or Spain :scared:)

Jane Lane
Feb 6th, 2011, 02:45 AM
:lol: Can they get Argentina? Vika-Gise.....again.

Spiritof42
Feb 6th, 2011, 04:37 AM
An article (http://www.fedcup.com/en/news/articles/europeafrica---day-4-report.aspx) on FedCup.com calls Vika vs. Aga "probably the best quality women's match ever played in Israel". Makes me want to see it even more.

VIKA?
Feb 6th, 2011, 10:11 AM
BLR :hearts:
@Andreas: No. It depends on who is seeded and who is not from the losers of the World Group 2 ties and Belarus, Switzerland, Japan, and Argentina. Belarus will be unseeded though, which means that they will play one of the 4 seeds (potentially Serbia or Spain :scared:)

Spain sucks so yeah I think it would be a good one to face:lol:

Jekyll
Feb 6th, 2011, 04:22 PM
Spain sucks so yeah I think it would be a good one to face:lol:

:smash:

This not gonna happen bcause Spain has to face WG-I loser ;)

M.A.S.L.
Feb 6th, 2011, 05:41 PM
:smash:

This not gonna happen bcause Spain has to face WG-I loser ;)

That´s true dear William, there is a long time before a Spain-Vikaland tie.

VIKA?
Feb 6th, 2011, 06:31 PM
:smash:

This not gonna happen bcause Spain has to face WG-I loser ;)

That´s true dear William, there is a long time before a Spain-Vikaland tie.

well I wrote the post before Spain won the tie so yeah.I can't guess like Aramis Fuster:sobbing:

Delfii
Feb 6th, 2011, 08:17 PM
:lol: Can they get Argentina? Vika-Gise.....again.

Yes yes :hearts: I hope that happens and they play here and I can go :hearts::hearts:

Andreas
Feb 6th, 2011, 09:32 PM
I don't think Argentina can play Belarus. Surely the winners play the losers? I hope Sweden gets Belarus at home :p

Delfii
Feb 6th, 2011, 11:53 PM
I don't know how the system works... Fed Cup drives me crazy that system its so WTF? :lol:
I was just dreaming.

hellas719
Feb 8th, 2011, 03:29 AM
Argentina CAN play Belarus ;)
It isn't winners vs. losers. It's seeds vs. non-seeds based on the Fed Cup rankings ;)

And Will, Spain sucks? :spit:. Spain would probably beat Govortsova x2 and win the doubles. Definitely a tough match for Belarus :shrug:

Jekyll
Feb 8th, 2011, 09:11 AM
Maria Jose Martinez could beat Vika with her tricky game, Wouldn't be the first time..

Spain is a difficult contender I think with Carlita and Mariajo. Anabel isn't dangerous anymore. Btw, Nuria Llagostera and Maria José have split out, and now Mariajosé is playing with Anabel :tape:

VIKA?
Feb 8th, 2011, 02:41 PM
Argentina CAN play Belarus ;)
It isn't winners vs. losers. It's seeds vs. non-seeds based on the Fed Cup rankings ;)

And Will, Spain sucks? :spit:. Spain would probably beat Govortsova x2 and win the doubles. Definitely a tough match for Belarus :shrug:

Yeah Spain sucks:shrug: I mean they only have MJMS who can beat Vika and yeah I know she has already won against Vika but normally Vika should win except if she sucks that day. Who else does Spain have? at least these days the others sucks. Not saying Govortsova is like Serena but I guess she could beat CSN or Llagostera or AMG :shrug:

Delfii
Feb 8th, 2011, 09:43 PM
Argentina CAN play Belarus ;)

:woohoo: :hearts: :bounce:

Please organisation do that :drool: and here please :bounce:

Break My Rapture
Feb 8th, 2011, 10:29 PM
Vika has already arrived in Dubai btw. :p

Vikapower
Feb 9th, 2011, 04:18 AM
^^ I really want Vika to win this event and certainly my favorite WTA event out there - The crowd is great, they love tennis though in the first couple days they don't always in mass. :lol:

She came close last year and the field this year is quite though but hopefully something super positive happens.

Andreas
Feb 9th, 2011, 12:14 PM
Belarus drew Estonia :D That's a great draw! Hopefully they get to play at home.

Edit: I just saw that Belarus actually does play at home :p

Break My Rapture
Feb 9th, 2011, 02:56 PM
Nice draw for them. :)

Delfii
Feb 9th, 2011, 07:33 PM
:hysteric:
I wanted Argentina, but anyways I'd be nice to see Belarus keep on! :)

Vikapower
Feb 9th, 2011, 11:44 PM
Yeah Spain sucks :shrug: I mean they only have MJMS who can beat Vika and yeah I know she has already won against Vika but normally Vika should win except if she sucks that day. Who else does Spain have? at least these days the others sucks. Not saying Govortsova is like Serena but I guess she could beat CSN or Llagostera or AMG :shrug:

Suarez Navarro is very talented and I wouldn't write her off so easily - It's very harsh to say that she's a wasted talent since she's just only 21 but she gave enormous problems to Vika in RG 2009 1rst round - she has some scarce blips of greatness only to suck the vaste majority of the time (...) but to me when she's on I see her game vastly much superior to Olga.

Jane Lane
Feb 9th, 2011, 11:45 PM
But the CSN now and the CSN of 2-3 years ago are completely different.
It may have been the injury she had, but in her current state she poses no real threat to anybody.

So since they're home, I'm thinking both Vika and Olga are locks if they're both healthy (please God). As far as Estonia, Kaia...and then Ani? Kontaveit is 15 and promising but I don't know.

Good draw for the girls.

Vikapower
Feb 10th, 2011, 03:29 AM
^^ Yes but isn't the next Fed Cup matches after Wim ?? If so things can vastly change in between especially with clay wich can be a confidence trampoline for the spaniards (...) it depends whom Carla plays first or second match - Most obviously in the actual state it'd be Vika/MJMS and Carla/Olga - it's true if she plays Vika then I don't think there'll be much problems but if it's Govortsova I'm not so sure - I haven't seen Olga play for such a long time actually maybe Dubaï 2009 so I don't really know how much weight her game has taken and maybe I could be completely wrong on how she'd handle Carla.

VIKA?
Feb 10th, 2011, 02:46 PM
Suarez Navarro is very talented and I wouldn't write her off so easily - It's very harsh to say that she's a wasted talent since she's just only 21 but she gave enormous problems to Vika in RG 2009 1rst round - she has some scarce blips of greatness only to suck the vaste majority of the time (...) but to me when she's on I see her game vastly much superior to Olga.

but stil... IMO Carla can only play well on clay (and not even that nowadays) but who knows.

Good draw I'd say but let's remember that Kanepi has won vs Vika at the fed cup. But I guess playing home will be great and an adv. :cheer:

Break My Rapture
Feb 10th, 2011, 05:55 PM
Suarez Navarro is very talented and I wouldn't write her off so easily - It's very harsh to say that she's a wasted talent since she's just only 21 but she gave enormous problems to Vika in RG 2009 1rst round - she has some scarce blips of greatness only to suck the vaste majority of the time (...) but to me when she's on I see her game vastly much superior to Olga.
Pretty sure that it was 3rd round.

Vikapower
Feb 10th, 2011, 08:02 PM
^^ Certainly - I only remember Vika booing the Paris crowd at the end, epic Victoria. :worship:

but stil... IMO Carla can only play well on clay (and not even that nowadays) but who knows.

:shrug: - Is that the reaction Vika had in Fed Cup in your avatar ?? :lol: OMG ! :worship:

Jane Lane
Feb 10th, 2011, 11:38 PM
Wait, we ARE playing Estonia though right? :lol:
I love how we got into a potential ESP-BLR discussion but they're not even playing :lol:

hellas719
Feb 11th, 2011, 01:13 AM
^IKR :lol:
Yeah, Belarus vs. Estonia :p

Although I still think Spain would've been favorite against Belarus :lol:

Vikapower
Feb 11th, 2011, 04:07 AM
Wait, we ARE playing Estonia though right? :lol:
I love how we got into a potential ESP-BLR discussion but they're not even playing :lol:

:haha: I don't know either how we I got into this. :sobbing:

3Dcool
Feb 11th, 2011, 12:27 PM
Belarus is going to to devour Estonia :)

VIKA?
Feb 11th, 2011, 02:39 PM
^^ Certainly - I only remember Vika booing the Paris crowd at the end, epic Victoria. :worship:



:shrug: - Is that the reaction Vika had in Fed Cup in your avatar ?? :lol: OMG ! :worship:

yes:lol: hilarious:inlove:

miffedmax
Feb 11th, 2011, 10:28 PM
Ugh. Start already, Dubai. I needs some Vikatude.

Break My Rapture
Feb 11th, 2011, 10:33 PM
620 points to defend here. :speakles: Hopefully a good draw.

saul1333
Feb 11th, 2011, 10:34 PM
Ugh. Start already, Dubai. I needs some Vikatude.

I like it :lol:

Go Vika :)

Temperenka
Feb 12th, 2011, 05:09 AM
Vikatude :lol: :yeah:

Break My Rapture
Feb 12th, 2011, 03:46 PM
Pretty decent draw. :)

R1 BYE
R2 BMS/Q
R3 Pennetta
QF Zvonareva :o
SF Radwanska/Schiavone

Jane Lane
Feb 12th, 2011, 03:50 PM
Yeah it definitely could've been worse.
Bepa vs. Vika rematch? ....again. They have to stop playing each other it makes me sad. :lol:

Break My Rapture
Feb 12th, 2011, 03:51 PM
I know I'm getting sick of it. :( Why couldn't Vika have gotten Stosur?

Temperenka
Feb 12th, 2011, 04:05 PM
BMS :nervous:

Jane Lane
Feb 12th, 2011, 04:14 PM
Well this just occurred to me, mainly because I forgot.

So BMS plays a Q. I'm gonna play a worst scenario that makes me want to cry, if that Q is Pavly, Vika's draw just became much more complicated.

Break My Rapture
Feb 12th, 2011, 04:17 PM
The Q could also be Chanelle Scheepers who she beat in Melbourne. :lol:

But knowing Vika's luck, that worst-case scenario is defo possible. :o We'll see where all the Q's get placed tomorrow.

Vikapower
Feb 12th, 2011, 05:02 PM
Decent draw I think for Vika unless that Zvo rematch against whom you can always expect her to choke or brilliantly fold to. :rolleyes: Then if Vika gets Nastya eventually then I really don't see her outdo Vika mentally. :shrug:

Hopefully Vika does well. :cheer2:

saul1333
Feb 12th, 2011, 05:06 PM
Not that easy of a draw..kind of nervous :scared:

Delfii
Feb 12th, 2011, 05:35 PM
Why Vika ALWAYS get Bepa? Ugh :o
BMS? umm not liking that I wish she could do like Kvitova :lol:
But if Pavly its the Q? :unsure: Let's stay positive :angel:

hurricanejeanne
Feb 12th, 2011, 07:29 PM
The draw could have been a lot worse, but we know how Vika just attracts the crappy draws. :p
This is a doable draw for her though, it's dicey but if Vika is in decent form she'll get through to at least Bepa who should be tired by then with all the tennis she's played.

One match at a time. :angel:

VIKA?
Feb 12th, 2011, 08:09 PM
Of course she gets a tough draw:lol: not surprised... good luck babe:yeah:

hellas719
Feb 13th, 2011, 03:46 AM
With Vika's luck the qualifier will be Pavlyuchenkova :rolleyes: (assuming she qualifies)

VIKA?
Feb 13th, 2011, 02:57 PM
(1) Peschke/Srebotnik - Bye
Dushevina/Peng vs K.Bondarenko/Shvedova
Pennetta/Schiavone vs Errani/Vinci
Jans/Rosolska vs (6) Mattek-Sands/Shaughnessy

(4) Azarenka/Kirilenko - Bye
(WC) Jankovic/Wickmayer vs Kleybanova/Yan
Dulgheru/Sfar vs Kondratieva/Lefevre
Mirza/Vesnina vs (8) Bacsinszky/Benesova

(5) Llagostera Vives/ROdionova vs Hantuchova/Radwanska
Diatchenko/Poutchek vs Amanmuradova/Kustova
(WC) Al Nabhani/De Lattre vs (WC) Kuznetsova/Zvonareva
(3) Chan/Zheng - Bye

(7) Raymond/Stosur vs Grandin/Uhlirova
Kops-Jones/Spears vs Niculescu/Peer
Groth/Zakopalova vs Barrois/Malek
(2) Huber/Martinez Sanchez - Bye

VIKA?
Feb 13th, 2011, 02:58 PM
btw, Vika will get Beth or Peng in R2. Of course she gets a player who's playing really well ATM:lol::o

Break My Rapture
Feb 13th, 2011, 02:59 PM
:unsure: Could be tough. Thinking it will be Peng.

Jane Lane
Feb 13th, 2011, 03:15 PM
:spit: JJ/Wickmayer vs Vikkiri FTW! :lol:.

Vikapower
Feb 13th, 2011, 04:03 PM
btw, Vika will get Beth or Peng in R2. Of course she gets a player who's playing really well ATM:lol::o

We can consider ourselves lucky - Vika could have gotten Petra in her part of the draw and seeing how she's turned her game to better consistency and remembering their last match up and the one to Li Na I'd faint in desperation. :help:

People say Petra'll be tired I prefer see her tired than to try to make myself and others believe that she is or will be - confidence makes wonders... poor Caro. :lol:

hurricanejeanne
Feb 13th, 2011, 07:42 PM
Oh my god both the draws (singles and doubles) are hot messes. :sobbing:

Please don't suck, Vika.

hellas719
Feb 14th, 2011, 02:31 AM
Go Vika! :hearts::bounce:

Igor_Biscan
Feb 15th, 2011, 03:00 PM
Second on court one tomorrow. As a finalist from last year I would have expected her to play on CC

saul1333
Feb 15th, 2011, 03:38 PM
CC is all Italians :lol:

Good luck Vika :)

Break My Rapture
Feb 15th, 2011, 06:22 PM
Good luck Vika. :hearts:
Second on court one tomorrow. As a finalist from last year I would have expected her to play on CC
I know. :(

VIKA?
Feb 15th, 2011, 07:18 PM
I was not expecting her on CC as Dubai organizators are a mess:lol::(

good luck :D

Spiritof42
Feb 15th, 2011, 10:08 PM
They put the top 5 seeds on CC, so the OOP is certainly not as questionable as today's. Vika simply needs to be ranked higher. :p

Still sucks that we won't be able to see her match, of course.

Peng could be tricky.

Vikapower
Feb 15th, 2011, 11:27 PM
Second on court one tomorrow. As a finalist from last year I would have expected her to play on CC

:shrug: Vika almost never gets CCs in the early rounds of these kinds of events (that's my feeling...) last year as Dubaï was a Premier she was one of the stars with Vee now it has been upgraded to 5... anyways best of luck lovely. :yeah:

Igor_Biscan
Feb 16th, 2011, 09:12 AM
:shrug: Vika almost never gets CCs in the early rounds of these kinds of events (that's my feeling...) last year as Dubaï was a Premier she was one of the stars with Vee now it has been upgraded to 5... anyways best of luck lovely. :yeah:

No, last year it was a P5 as well, Vika started on the outer courts.

Break My Rapture
Feb 16th, 2011, 12:28 PM
OMG so happy Vika pulled through this match. :hysteric: JESUS CHRIST that was so tight. :crying2:

Nerve-wrecking. :tears:

Break My Rapture
Feb 16th, 2011, 12:29 PM
No, last year it was a P5 as well, Vika started on the outer courts.
IIRC Vika was seeded 4 last year, and was the highest seed not to have played on CC until the quarters. :o

Vikapower
Feb 16th, 2011, 12:39 PM
Vika thank God this thing is over. :weirdo:

7 dfs, 8/21 (38%) of 2nd serve won, 79% of 1rst serve in but only 44/74 (56%) of them won -- 8 of 15 on break points - served for the match 2 times this to my looks a headcase performance at the Victorian manner. :help:

Unless... Peng is one of these upcoming discret future GOATs - Does one of you know her game for Vika to be a set down and in a tight 3rd set tie break ? :confused:

We live another round to see but Vika, please, up your game I beg you.


No, last year it was a P5 as well, Vika started on the outer courts.

:eek: I think I missed something then. :lol: How comes then the field of last year was so disastrous :confused:

Igor_Biscan
Feb 16th, 2011, 01:36 PM
Serena was injured and Clijsters chose not to play I guess (?). Otherwise the field was strong. Vika was playing top3 tennis at the time.

Vikapower
Feb 16th, 2011, 01:46 PM
^^ You're right - that's the reason I got fooled because actually we have the top 10 seeds from the exception of Kimmie -- that's also why I really had the impression that the tournament was upgraded to P5.

Gosh so in other words I didn't realize how great of a performance it was for Vika to make the finals of such an event :sobbing: and it makes the last year's loss even more depressing :sobbing: but we have a new chance :cheer: hopefully Vika seizes it well. :hearts:

Break My Rapture
Feb 16th, 2011, 01:49 PM
I think it would be better if Zvonareva lost before Vika reaches the QF. :o
For some reason, Vika tends to really back off against her. :tears:

Vikapower
Feb 16th, 2011, 02:08 PM
I think it would be better if Zvonareva lost before Vika reaches the QF. :o For some reason, Vika tends to really back off against her. :tears:

Zvo has some strange strong mental hold on Vika and for whatever mysterious reason(s) Vika just folds in front of her. Zvo is one of my most sincerely disliked player of the tour and I really want their H2H to be at least on equal level. If she has another chance why not :shrug:

VIKA?
Feb 16th, 2011, 02:39 PM
ohmygod:lol:
she really needs to improve her serve as fast as possible:tape: but yeah thanks god she kept fighting and won the match. Good luck in the next round:yeah:

Andreas
Feb 16th, 2011, 02:47 PM
Did she seriously only win one point on her own serve in the tiebreak? :lol: Anyway, we should be really happy about this win considering Vika's 3rd set tiebreak statistics :tape:


Which players have nerves of steel and which falter under pressure? Here are the statistics for third set TBs which give you the answer. A player has to play at least 5 TBs to get included here. All results count : Fed Cup, Qualies, ITF also. This list will kept updated in the future and new players will be added. :) You can always add your favourite players of course.


1.000 Agnes Szavay [8-0]
0.789 Svetlana Kuznetsova [15-4]
0.750 Ana Ivanovic [6-2]
0.731 Daniela Hantuchova [19-7]
0.667 Nicole Vaidisova [6-3]
0.667 Alexandra Dulgheru [6-3]
0.667 Caroline Wozniacki [6-3]
0.650 Jelena Jankovic [13-7]
0.643 Dinara Safina [9-5]
0.636 Justine Henin [7-4]
0.632 Francesca Schiavone [12-7]
0.625 Zheng Jie [5-3]
0.615 Marion Bartoli [8-5]
0.600 Amelie Mauresmo [15-10]
0.600 Virginie Razzano [6-4]
0.567 Patty Schnyder [17-13]
0.560 Elena Dementieva [14-11]
0.563 Gisela Dulko [9-7]
0.545 Shahar Peer [6-5]
0.545 Dominika Cibulkova [6-5]
0.538 Agniezska Radwanska [7-6]
0.523 Nadia Petrova [11-10]
0.500 Li Na [7-7]
0.500 Anabel Medina Garrigues [3-3]
0.500 Lindsay Davenport [10-10]
0.500 Alona Bondarenko [6-6]
0.500 Yanina Wickmayer [5-5]
0.471 Venus Williams [8-9]
0.467 Serena Williams [7-8]
0.461 Vera Zvonareva [6-7]
0.461 Flavia Pennetta [6-7]
0.444 Samantha Stosur [8-10]
0.429 Lucie Safarova [6-8]
0.428 Alize Cornet [3-4]
0.417 Maria Kirilenko [5-7]
0.412 Katarina Srebotnik [7-10]
0.375 Kim Clijsters [3-5]
0.375 Sabine Lisicki [3-5]
0.364 Anna Chakvetadze [4-7]
0.333 Elena Vesnina [4-8]
0.300 Ai Sugiyama [6-14]
0.222 Viktoria Azarenka [2-7]

_______________________________

1.000 Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova [3-0]
1.000 Alisa Kleybanova [3-0]
0.750 Maria Sharapova [3-1]

Delfii
Feb 16th, 2011, 04:32 PM
Oh Vika :help:
Good luck vs Pennetta:), please get a serve soon :tape:

Break My Rapture
Feb 16th, 2011, 04:41 PM
3rd on CC tomorrow. :)

Good luck Vika. :hearts:

Vikapower
Feb 16th, 2011, 04:55 PM
Flavia is interesting for Vika - in their last match up in Stuttgart on clay Vika completely outplayed the italian on what was supposed to be her surface now we're on Vika's terms on HC we'll see how that turns hoping Vika raises her level. GL :cheer:

Spiritof42
Feb 16th, 2011, 05:01 PM
Glad I didn't follow this match on the scoreboard. :scared:

I knew Vika had lost her fair share of cliff-hangers over the years, but I never realized her record in third set tie-breaks was quite so poor.
(and :eek: at Szavay being the only player on the list never to have lost one)

Good luck against Flava Flav.

saul1333
Feb 16th, 2011, 06:53 PM
Close one :sobbing:

Glad I was asleep during the 3rd set..too much..

Nina.
Feb 16th, 2011, 07:18 PM
What a close match but at least she won in the end. Good luck for tomorrow :)

VIKA?
Feb 16th, 2011, 08:17 PM
Both Vika and Flavia won in 3 sets today, let's see tommorrow:) Good luck Vika:D

Jane Lane
Feb 16th, 2011, 10:37 PM
Phew, so glad she won. Good luck against Flavia, Vika :cheer:

hellas719
Feb 17th, 2011, 03:15 AM
Vika :D
GL against Pennetta! :bounce:
When does doubles start? :p

Spiritof42
Feb 17th, 2011, 04:00 AM
When does doubles start? :p
Vika is playing twice tomorrow: singles on CC, then doubles on court 1 (against Kleybanova/Yan).

hellas719
Feb 17th, 2011, 04:17 AM
^Thanks ;)

saul1333
Feb 17th, 2011, 02:13 PM
:sobbing: Strange match

http://s48.radikal.ru/i122/1102/0b/3cad47413890.png (http://www.radikal.ru)

Vikapower
Feb 17th, 2011, 02:13 PM
Very mediocre match now I'm really worried about what could have caused that and hopefully not another injury !!

Vika loses 500 pts and so goes down her ranking. :sad:

VIKA?
Feb 17th, 2011, 02:23 PM
another silly choke, oh well. Not even caring anymore:yawn:

Jekyll
Feb 17th, 2011, 02:36 PM
what stats! OMG, break point conversions are a joke! :spit:

What was the real chocke? 4-0 leading in the 3rd?

Derek.
Feb 17th, 2011, 02:37 PM
Vika's kind of seemed to level off. :o

Nina.
Feb 17th, 2011, 02:46 PM
first that comeback and then she throws it away completely :sobbing:

Welcome1
Feb 17th, 2011, 04:35 PM
headcase

saul1333
Feb 17th, 2011, 04:37 PM
Doubles win to soothe the pain :)

http://s61.radikal.ru/i172/1102/1d/e85a0e7a6ac5.png (http://www.radikal.ru)

Break My Rapture
Feb 17th, 2011, 05:57 PM
What is this. Seriously, what is this? How the hell did Vika manage to gift this match back to Pennetta?
I was so surprised and ecstatic to see her pull off that impossible comeback with very contained and measured tennis, she continued like that till 4-1 but then just...seriously. I'm so disappointed, and fairly disgusted at how the score evolved throughout this match. :sad:
Knee band. :scared:

Break My Rapture
Feb 17th, 2011, 07:26 PM
Oh and I just saw Vika's quarter totally opened up again after Zvonareva lost. :sad: This is so frustrating.

Jane Lane
Feb 17th, 2011, 08:08 PM
I said it after AO and I'll say it again; can she dump Sumyk yet? He's getting her NOWHERE. If anything, she's going backwards.

saul1333
Feb 17th, 2011, 08:10 PM
CENTRE COURT start 2:00 pm
[4] V Azarenka (BLR) / M Kirilenko (RUS) vs S Mirza (IND) / E Vesnina (RUS)
[4] S Stosur (AUS) vs [6] J Jankovic (SRB)
Not Before 7:00 PM
[8] A Radwanska (POL) vs [16] S Kuznetsova (RUS)
[11] F Pennetta (ITA) vs [15] A Kleybanova (RUS)

Go Vikkiri :cheer:

Spiritof42
Feb 17th, 2011, 09:10 PM
:banghead:

Once again, I completely missed the match, but after reading what went on (coming back from 1-5 in the 2nd only to crumble from a 4-1 lead in the 3rd), I'm kinda glad I did.

She would have faced Kleybanova, and then the winner of Kuznetsova vs. Radwanska on the way to the final. This certainly qualifies as a missed opportunity, and I'm afraid it will affect more than her ranking.

Nina.
Feb 17th, 2011, 09:23 PM
at least Vikkiri is winning :shrug:

Temperenka
Feb 17th, 2011, 09:39 PM
Not a good year so far for Vika. Her worse start since 2008 for sure.

JadeFox
Feb 17th, 2011, 09:57 PM
Ugh! Blowing a lead to lose! Ugh.

She does need to make changes. Perhaps a new coach since she's not improving under Sam.

hurricanejeanne
Feb 17th, 2011, 10:05 PM
I said it after AO and I'll say it again; can she dump Sumyk yet? He's getting her NOWHERE. If anything, she's going backwards.

Exactly, if the AO didn't seal the deal, then this should have. I doubt she'll dump him though. These are matches Vika cannot lose.
She's completely regressing under Sumyk, who didn't do squat for Zvonareva either for years.

Vikapower
Feb 17th, 2011, 10:12 PM
I said it after AO and I'll say it again; can she dump Sumyk yet? He's getting her NOWHERE. If anything, she's going backwards.

You must be right because the commentator on french Eurosport came up with the same topic (...) Sumyk is definitively not having success with Vika - personally by success I mean results in majors most of all - Vika has shown that she can win mandatories has won one so she has really nothing to prove on that side but I still can't understand how comes a player with such a big talent still hasn't even made at least one semi in a slam ?

Guess what we have the answers ourselves : her serve sucks, her FH is still average and her physique !? :help: It is not Vika's fault, she's a player and it's the coach that's suppose to come with the "knowledge" - tennis and technique knowledge to help his/her player progress and Sumyk is just unconvincing.

Watch Federer who was coachless - he has all talents and yet when he enrolled Annacone, his coach came with his vision and knowledges and almost drastically change Fed's game wich immediately reflected by his win in the WTF against Rafa.

All this to say Sumyk has had more time and at least Vika's serve should have been better, way much better than just regressing. Seriously 2009 Vika serves way much better than the actual : a shame !

Break My Rapture
Feb 17th, 2011, 10:25 PM
I did notice that Vika's first serve is quite faster (or it only looks that way, especially caught my eye in her first service game of the match where she really BOMBED some first serves down :eek:).

And vikapower, Vika was merely spinning in her first serve most of the time back in 2009.

But like Jean-Marie said, I don't think she'll drop Sumyk. I also don't have a clue who she could hire next that would do wonders for her game, maybe Michael Joyce? :lol: There must be someone with loads of experience out there who knows that Vika has huge potential and that would love to maximise it. Maybe Johnny Mac? :lol:

Spiritof42
Feb 17th, 2011, 10:31 PM
at least Vikkiri is winning :shrug:
Don't worry, they'll probably find a way to choke a match sooner or later (sorry for my pessimism, but I still can't get over their meltdown in the AO final :tape:).

Anyway, doubles is nice, but do we really want Vika (or Maria, for that matter) to become more successful in doubles than in singles?

Break My Rapture
Feb 17th, 2011, 10:33 PM
Don't worry, they'll probably find a way to choke a match sooner or later (sorry for my pessimism, but I still can't get over their meltdown in the AO final :tape:).

Anyway, doubles is nice, but do we really want Vika (or Maria, for that matter) to become more successful in doubles than in singles?
For me, definitely not. At the moment I couldn't care less about doubles as I'm still fairly pissed over her loss. I was hoping she'd get her ass to Doha already to train her ass off.

bluestorm10
Feb 17th, 2011, 10:51 PM
Didn't catch this match. I'm pretty upset about the result. I concur with others--something needs to change. I think everyone here knows Vika should be getting further/winning more so seeing her slide back at worst, stay stagnant at best is disheartening. She seems to really like Sam so I don't know what will push her to change coaches.

This is me being lazy (and frigging busy right now :lol:) but can someone really helpful say quickly regarding the play today: Vika=played bad or Flavia=played superb?

Jane Lane
Feb 17th, 2011, 11:21 PM
I did notice that Vika's first serve is quite faster (or it only looks that way, especially caught my eye in her first service game of the match where she really BOMBED some first serves down :eek:).

And vikapower, Vika was merely spinning in her first serve most of the time back in 2009.

But like Jean-Marie said, I don't think she'll drop Sumyk. I also don't have a clue who she could hire next that would do wonders for her game, maybe Michael Joyce? :lol: There must be someone with loads of experience out there who knows that Vika has huge potential and that would love to maximise it. Maybe Johnny Mac? :lol:

Brad Gilbert loves her. :lol::lol::lol:
I didn't know this until I saw the highlights, but should that knee band be concerning? :confused: Please God say no.

Positive side, she has nothing to defend really from now to Wimbly aside from Eastbourne, am I correct?

Vikapower
Feb 17th, 2011, 11:49 PM
:lol: Yes Pieter but Vika had a more consistent serve :shrug: how much money are you able to bet that Vika willn't be part of the top 10 year end SEWTA PDF double-faults statistics section ? :lol:

No but seriously you gave a good observation that Vika's serve has took in speed - I took a habit since Moscou to always try to watch the speedgun when avaible to the spectator to have an idea of how agressively Vika hits her serve and she seemed to really go after it but her consistency in doing so... :help:

>>>> :sobbing: >>>> [QUOTE=bluestorm10;19171247]Didn't catch this match. I'm pretty upset about the result. I concur with others--something needs to change. I think everyone here knows Vika should be getting further/winning more so seeing her slide back at worst, stay stagnant at best is disheartening. She seems to really like Sam so I don't know what will push her to change coaches.

This is me being lazy (and frigging busy right now :lol:) but can someone%

>>>> :sobbing: >>>>

hurricanejeanne
Feb 18th, 2011, 02:04 AM
I would love if somehow she could get Adam Peterson (Lindsay's old coach during her later years) to coach her.

I don't what it is about Sumyk's style that doesn't work with a lot of players on a consistent basis. When he was with Zvonareva, she'd have weeks were she'd play great and then weeks where she'd be awful and now that's happening with Vika: she's losing matches she should win, like today. I think Vika needs someone who can strip tennis back down to it's basics so she can focus on the simple things instead of getting all these ideas and strategies bounded up into a tangled knot. In this era of tennis, there is no reason that Vika shouldn't be top 5 and winning events like this. She has the game, she has the capabilities to play awesome tennis. She simply hasn't found the coach that can get her to that level consistently.

And for a singles player of Vika's stature, doubles is for confidence and pratice. :shrug:

HowardH
Feb 18th, 2011, 07:48 AM
This is me being lazy (and frigging busy right now :lol:) but can someone really helpful say quickly regarding the play today: Vika=played bad or Flavia=played superb?

Both played badly, in turns. Basically.

After getting up 6-3 5-1, Flavia was nervous and played terribly during the second half of the 2nd set and the early part of the third. Couldn't keep the ball in play. She was totally gifting the match to Vika. Then at 4-1 double break down in the third Flavia started to get some balls in the court, and Vika couldn't keep the ball in play. In the end Vika gifted the last service game to Flavia. Error, error, df, and then Flavia played one good point to finish it. Losing her last service game to love didn't surprise me. The only thing that mildly surprised me is that she only hit one df in that last game. I was fully expecting a doublefault on the last point as well.

No superb play, unfortunately. It's actually nicer to at least lose to someone playing superbly.

Tennis is about singles, really, for me. I hardly follow doubles results. For me, doing well in doubles and not in singles is basically a semi-failed career. It means you weren't good enough to make it as a singles player. So Vika doing well in doubles hardly redeems her poor singles form, in my opinion. Of course I make exceptions for players whose games clearly lend themselves to doubles, such as Cara with her quick hands and agility around the net. Her career was not a failure. She was born to be a doubles player. But Vika is a singles player first and foremost in my mind.

Vikapower
Feb 18th, 2011, 02:38 PM
:tape: Bluestorm I answered you but I can't understand how my post came out at #4687 :haha: Why is there even a "%" sign in there ? :haha:

There's just you're quote and nothing else... >>>> :sobbing: >>>> I'll try to figure out a rational response to this (...)

Break My Rapture
Feb 18th, 2011, 04:41 PM
:lol: Yes Pieter but Vika had a more consistent serve :shrug: how much money are you able to bet that Vika willn't be part of the top 10 year end SEWTA PDF double-faults statistics section ? :lol:
Vika used to bomb down a lot of double faults back in 2009 too though.
I would love if somehow she could get Adam Peterson (Lindsay's old coach during her later years) to coach her.

I don't what it is about Sumyk's style that doesn't work with a lot of players on a consistent basis. When he was with Zvonareva, she'd have weeks were she'd play great and then weeks where she'd be awful and now that's happening with Vika: she's losing matches she should win, like today. I think Vika needs someone who can strip tennis back down to it's basics so she can focus on the simple things instead of getting all these ideas and strategies bounded up into a tangled knot. In this era of tennis, there is no reason that Vika shouldn't be top 5 and winning events like this. She has the game, she has the capabilities to play awesome tennis. She simply hasn't found the coach that can get her to that level consistently.

And for a singles player of Vika's stature, doubles is for confidence and pratice. :shrug:
Completely agree, and yes I think a former coach of an all-time great like Linds could really help Vika. :) The question is, does she herself think she's making progress or is she thinking about her stagnation too?

saul1333
Feb 18th, 2011, 05:55 PM
http://s14.radikal.ru/i187/1102/52/91d768e0ea5c.png (http://www.radikal.ru)

CENTRE COURT starts 2:00 PM
[1] C Wozniacki (DEN) vs [6] J Jankovic (SRB)
[1] K Peschke (CZE) / K Srebotnik (SLO) vs [4] V Azarenka (BLR) / M Kirilenko (RUS)
Not Before 7:00 PM
[16] S Kuznetsova (RUS) vs [11] F Pennetta (ITA)

hurricanejeanne
Feb 18th, 2011, 11:39 PM
Vika used to bomb down a lot of double faults back in 2009 too though.

Completely agree, and yes I think a former coach of an all-time great like Linds could really help Vika. :) The question is, does she herself think she's making progress or is she thinking about her stagnation too?

Vika really needs a coach who has history with getting good, top ten players over the hump into greatness (winning slams, being top 3). She's been with Sumyk for over a year and honestly I haven't seen any change in her game that is positive, if anything she's become more confused on court with what she has to do. Some weeks she'll do great, but those weeks are few and far between now.

I hope Vika realizes what's going on. And if she's going to get better she has to realize that in order to do so she'll have to make some changes. Her last coach got her to where she is, and Sumyk can't get the job done so it's time for her to either get a new coach or suck it up and start almost self-coaching when she's on court.

She's obviously developed the yips on her serve and she needs help with that in probably a coaching stand point and maybe even from a sports pyschologist. Unless that shoulder injury that Vika apparently has but no one knows much about it is the root of the problem, then she needs to see a doctor.

This is all just very frustrating. :sobbing:

Break My Rapture
Feb 18th, 2011, 11:43 PM
If Vika has the same shoulder problem as Sharapova then you could might as well shoot me.

I'm also finding it very weird how it was barely mentioned. :unsure: I remember after winning Stanford last year she pulled out of SD with a right shoulder injury but most thought it was just an excuse to have a week off to recover.

hurricanejeanne
Feb 19th, 2011, 03:22 AM
If Vika has the same shoulder problem as Sharapova then you could might as well shoot me.

I'm also finding it very weird how it was barely mentioned. :unsure: I remember after winning Stanford last year she pulled out of SD with a right shoulder injury but most thought it was just an excuse to have a week off to recover.

If Vika has the same shoulder issue as Maria, then you can shoot me too, perferably in my own bad shoulder. :p

The fact that it's never mentioned is what bothers me, it could be nothing serious or it could be serious. Vika has had a bit of a history of keeping her injuries sort of quiet. And outside of her pulling out of SD with a shoulder "injury" I don't even recall her ever having treatment on her shoulder before during a match either. It's very odd.

Jane Lane
Feb 19th, 2011, 03:39 AM
I hate it when we have all these questions after a Vika loss, AND SHE NEVER TWEETS AFTER. Like her last one was "Playing Pennetta...blah blah whenever" :lol: I'm just like girl we wanna knows what's going on in that head of yours. :haha:

Spiritof42
Feb 19th, 2011, 06:38 AM
Fretting over a Sharapova-style shoulder injury seems premature at this point. I'm a bit concerned, however, to see the knee support make its unwelcome reappearance so early in the season. I mean, she really hasn't played THAT much. :tape:

Tennis is about singles, really, for me. I hardly follow doubles results. For me, doing well in doubles and not in singles is basically a semi-failed career. It means you weren't good enough to make it as a singles player. So Vika doing well in doubles hardly redeems her poor singles form, in my opinion. Of course I make exceptions for players whose games clearly lend themselves to doubles, such as Cara with her quick hands and agility around the net. Her career was not a failure. She was born to be a doubles player. But Vika is a singles player first and foremost in my mind.
I completely agree - my question was purely rhetorical. To tell the truth, I never really liked playing doubles myself, though I do enjoy watching it once in a while - too bad live coverage is basically nonexistent outside the slams.

I hate it when we have all these questions after a Vika loss, AND SHE NEVER TWEETS AFTER. Like her last one was "Playing Pennetta...blah blah whenever" :lol: I'm just like girl we wanna knows what's going on in that head of yours. :haha:
I'm guessing Vika keeps quiet after her losses because she doesn't want to get another reprimand from the WTA for using "colorful language" on Twitter. ;)

Christinawww
Feb 19th, 2011, 12:47 PM
The fact that it's never mentioned is what bothers me, it could be nothing serious or it could be serious. Vika has had a bit of a history of keeping her injuries sort of quiet. And outside of her pulling out of SD with a shoulder "injury" I don't even recall her ever having treatment on her shoulder before during a match either. It's very odd.

Vika pulled out of the last tournament of 2008 with a shoulder injury.

Break My Rapture
Feb 19th, 2011, 01:12 PM
Vika pulled out of the last tournament of 2008 with a shoulder injury.
IIRC also Charleston after she won Miami in '09, citing a shoulder injury.

Vikapower
Feb 19th, 2011, 01:15 PM
Vika really needs a coach who has history with getting good, top ten players over the hump into greatness (winning slams, being top 3). She's been with Sumyk for over a year and honestly I haven't seen any change in her game that is positive, if anything she's become more confused on court with what she has to do. Some weeks she'll do great, but those weeks are few and far between now.

I hope Vika realizes what's going on. And if she's going to get better she has to realize that in order to do so she'll have to make some changes. Her last coach got her to where she is, and Sumyk can't get the job done so it's time for her to either get a new coach or suck it up and start almost self-coaching when she's on court.

She's obviously developed the yips on her serve and she needs help with that in probably a coaching stand point and maybe even from a sports pyschologist. Unless that shoulder injury that Vika apparently has but no one knows much about it is the root of the problem, then she needs to see a doctor.

This is all just very frustrating. :sobbing:

It's harsh to say Vika has the yips (that word alone scares me) but I'd say she has the "Venus syndrome"...

It could be that Vika has very little synchronisation on 1rst and 2nd serve and her motion might slightly change from 1rst to 2nd which results in a loss of rhythme and DFs. Venus she as it's common knowledge drops her head on 2nd, doesn't watch the ball and her synch can go completely wild.

What makes me think that is Patrick Moratoglu and Amélie Mauresmo commenting Vika vs. Li in Australia pointed out a default in her first and second serve motions but unfortunately they didn't extend on that. Personally I thaught : Vika was so overwhelmed in that match that she was afraid to serve to a player in red hot fire.

Then in Maria's match vs. Julia Görges, Maria was serving quite bad and he gave an extensive list of what can make a player DF so much... I can't remember all but the main one I can recall is that sometimes the tossing arm drops way to early and doesn't work in synch with the hitting arm.

Anyways... it's very very hard to know because tennis engages so much both mental and technique but the mental side is impossible to know for us fans since there's no person to person communication with Vika.

Maybe she's serving well in practice and can't apply it in match in that case it must have to do with blocage, a freight (...) there are so many different explanations I wish I could know.
I really want to see Vika more successful in her progression and hopefully this doesn't extend through the rest of her game.

Break My Rapture
Feb 19th, 2011, 01:30 PM
Vikkiri lost 62 61 to Peschke/Srebotnik in doubles semifinal.

Kinda expected I guess. Both of them were pretty bad in singles this week so.

saul1333
Feb 19th, 2011, 04:44 PM
Doha Draw

(1)Caroline Wozniacki (DEN) v BYE
Nadia Petrova (RUS) v Roberta Vinci (ITA)
Flavia Pennetta (ITA) v Jie Zheng (CHN)
Lucie Safarova (CZE) v (7)Agnieszka Radwanska (POL)

(3)Francesca Schiavone (ITA) v BYE
Kaia Kanepi (EST) v Qualifier
Alisa Kleybanova (RUS) v Marion Bartoli (FRA)
Svetlana Kuznetsova (RUS) v (8)Shahar Peer (ISR)

(5)Jelena Jankovic (SRB) v (wc)Fatma Al Nabhani (OMA)
(wc)Sania Mirza (IND) v Maria Kirilenko (RUS)
Alexandra Dulgheru (ROU) v Qualifier
(4)Na Li (CHN) v BYE

(6)Victoria Azarenka (BLR) v Daniela Hantuchova (SVK)
Qualifier v Maria Jose Martinez Sanchez (ESP)
Dominika Cibulkova (SVK) v Qualifier
(2)Vera Zvonareva (RUS) v BYE

Her good friends MJMS and Vera :lol:

Break My Rapture
Feb 19th, 2011, 04:58 PM
What a tough section. :crying2: WHY CAN'T SHE STAY AWAY FROM BEPA.

Christinawww
Feb 19th, 2011, 05:14 PM
IIRC also Charleston after she won Miami in '09, citing a shoulder injury.

I wasn't sure about that when I wrote the before. Sometimes my memory fails me more than I like.

Christinawww
Feb 19th, 2011, 05:19 PM
What a tough section. :crying2: WHY CAN'T SHE STAY AWAY FROM BEPA.

is it really much tougher than other sections? The field is pretty packed. Hantuchova has been struggling with a minor injury or illness or something. She was far from 100 percent in Dubai. And besides her title run in Bogota she hasn't won a match this year. MJMS isn't in her peak form either. And Zvonareva seem to lose left and right this year so far. I am not saying it is an easy draw but it isn't scary

Break My Rapture
Feb 19th, 2011, 05:31 PM
is it really much tougher than other sections? The field is pretty packed. Hantuchova has been struggling with a minor injury or illness or something. She was far from 100 percent in Dubai. And besides her title run in Bogota she hasn't won a match this year. MJMS isn't in her peak form either. And Zvonareva seem to lose left and right this year so far. I am not saying it is an easy draw but it isn't scary
I think Hantuchova is very unpredictable at this point, and if Vika struggles so much against Peng then who knows what will happen against Dani who should be well rested now. MJMS is tricky but only when Vika's not playing well, which seems to be the case now. Vera is still 2 matches away so I won't think about that yet but Vika always struggles against her. :shrug: But now that you mention it, the 2nd section seems to be the toughest of them all. :lol:

Vikapower
Feb 19th, 2011, 05:37 PM
What a tough section. :crying2: WHY CAN'T SHE STAY AWAY FROM BEPA.

In each and every freaking tournament. :rolleyes: You'd say there are 2 players Vika has a lifetime subscription to : Serena in majors and Vera in all the other events. Tiring.

It's definitively a difficult section for the way she's been playing lately... we'll see - as it goes losing to Hantuchova just like when she surprisingly lost to MJMS in IW 2010 after Dubaï just willn't be a surprise.

Jane Lane
Feb 19th, 2011, 05:56 PM
Christ why does she keep getting Bepa!?
Good luck Vika. :unsure:

Delfii
Feb 19th, 2011, 07:11 PM
It isn't that bad but considering her actual form any of them could beat her. It doesn't suck but why she always get Bepa? :unsure:

hurricanejeanne
Feb 19th, 2011, 07:16 PM
Son of a bitch at that draw. Seriously who the hell did Vika piss off to always get Bepa and MJMS? And she's got to play Dani who is either really good or really bad. :sobbing::scared:

What bothers me isn't so much her opponents' forms as much as it's Vika's own form. If Vika was playing really consistent, confident tennis I wouldn't be this anxious, but that said, Vika's been more headcasey than usual so far this year and now she's got the section of the draw that is filled with players that mess with her head and that just makes it worse. I just wish Vika would get her shit together consistently already. :sobbing:

JadeFox
Feb 19th, 2011, 10:31 PM
Vera again? Is the universe trying to tell us something with always putting Vika in Vera's half?

Vikaer
Feb 20th, 2011, 12:59 AM
It seems sth really terribly to Vika,she's to make some changes.I'm really frustrated this year at VIKA'performance.

VIKA?
Feb 20th, 2011, 10:40 AM
Let's see what she has prepared for us this week:lol:

Break My Rapture
Feb 20th, 2011, 07:20 PM
Vikkiri are out of doubles, Kiri has a left hip injury. :awww:

hurricanejeanne
Feb 21st, 2011, 03:11 AM
Vikkiri are out of doubles, Kiri has a left hip injury. :awww:

Poor Kiri, but it might be better for Vika to completely focus on singles for a while.

Break My Rapture
Feb 21st, 2011, 05:52 PM
Centre Court (from 15.30hrs)
1. Flavia Pennetta vs. Zheng Jie
2. Victoria Azarenka vs. Daniela Hantuchova (NB 17.30hrs)
3. Jelena Jankovic vs. Fatma Al Nabhani
4. Sania Mirza vs. Bojana Jovanovski (NB 20.30hrs)

Good luck Vika. :hearts:

Jane Lane
Feb 21st, 2011, 06:02 PM
Good matches on CC tomorrow. :lol: And we'll have stream, yay!
Let's go Vika :cheer:

Nina.
Feb 21st, 2011, 06:05 PM
good luck :cheer:

saul1333
Feb 21st, 2011, 07:01 PM
Good luck Vika :)

Break My Rapture
Feb 21st, 2011, 07:37 PM
@JamesLaRosa

Shock: Victoria Azarenka replacing Serena Williams in the Nike Clash of Champions exo 3/8. Serena will ref mixed dubs.

This exho is right before IW starts. Vika should normally have a R1 bye in IW though so she'll have plenty of time to rest. I think the exho also has its own Facebook page.

Vikapower
Feb 21st, 2011, 09:12 PM
TV coverage tomorrow I just hope Vika doesn't make a pathetic display again. GL :cheer:

VIKA?
Feb 21st, 2011, 10:12 PM
Good luck tommorrow:cheer:

hellas719
Feb 22nd, 2011, 05:13 AM
GL Vika! :bounce:

Vikapower
Feb 22nd, 2011, 05:07 PM
It's official Vika is really in some sort of slump. :sad:

VIKA?
Feb 22nd, 2011, 05:07 PM
I pretty expected this loss. I just don't know what the fuck is wrong with this girl:o

Jane Lane
Feb 22nd, 2011, 05:13 PM
Horrible, disgusting, shitastic fuckery basically describes this match and her recently.
Sumyk better do something to earn his pay check.

saul1333
Feb 22nd, 2011, 05:14 PM
I want to say 'hard R1 match'

She seemed unconscious in the 2nd and 3rd

Break My Rapture
Feb 22nd, 2011, 05:15 PM
What's up with Vika. :sad: She looked so uninterested and flat in these last two losses, I wonder if there really is something wrong with her shoulder. The way she leaned away from Sumyk during that coaching session reminded me of how she backed away from Van Grichen on-court right before she fired him. :unsure: Are we in for another coach change? :scared:

I'm worried nonetheless. Tennis sucks right now.

hurricanejeanne
Feb 22nd, 2011, 05:15 PM
She needs a new coach. She needs a sports psychologist to get over this random case of yips (random meaning they're not related to an injury). She has no excuse to have the yips and produce such attackable serves. She has no reason be playing moonballs. She has no reason to trying to play a game that isn't her's.

She needs to put her big girl panties on and get her shit together before she falls from grace like Vaidisova and Ivanovic. And that means getting a new coach and starting at the basics again.

I'm angry and extremely worried about her now. Before it was just general worry but now I'm very worried about her and her career. She's not only stagnated, she's regressing and if she continues to lose in first and second rounds in tournaments she should be going deep in, she won't be seeded in the slams.

HowardH
Feb 22nd, 2011, 05:15 PM
Only saw the end but reading the livescore comments I see the serve being mentioned a lot.

I think a while ago (a year or more ago), when she was already serving so conservatively- slow and super high first serve percentage, a few of us mentioned that this seemed to not be a good strategy for her. I remember saying that I felt that her mindset was simply one of avoiding hitting second serves. She was avoiding the pressure of hitting second serves. Then, when the pressure comes on, she isn't used to it.

Great servers go after their first serves, because they believe they can get great first serves in, and they also trust their second serves to back them up even if they miss. Vika's strategy of serving in order to avoid hitting second serves means she has lost confidence in both her ability to land big serves and also her ability to make pressure second serves. Meanwhile, here is another match where her serve percentage is much much higher than her opponents- but she lost convincingly. There's nothing magical about high first serve percentage if the serves are weak.

hurricanejeanne
Feb 22nd, 2011, 05:18 PM
What's up with Vika. :sad: She looked so uninterested and flat in these last two losses, I wonder if there really is something wrong with her shoulder. The way she leaned away from Sumyk during that coaching session reminded me of how she backed away from Van grichen right before she fired him. :unsure: Are we in for another coach change? :scared:

She better be getting a new coach! I'm completely willing to blame all of this shittiness of Sumyk if I can but I fear she's turing into Vaidisova. :sobbing:

How exactly did she treat Van Grichen before she fired him? I wasn't able to follow her as closely at that time.

Break My Rapture
Feb 22nd, 2011, 05:21 PM
She better be getting a new coach! I'm completely willing to blame all of this shittiness of Sumyk if I can but I fear she's turing into Vaidisova. :sobbing:

How exactly did she treat Van Grichen before she fired him? I wasn't able to follow her as closely at that time.
Kind of ignoring, leaning away as if he had bad breath (like Craig/allrounder said once) etc. :lol: She really needs a coach that has helped players to the next level, in this case Slams. But this is just very worrying. This looked like a tank, but a bad one if you know what I mean.

Jane Lane
Feb 22nd, 2011, 05:22 PM
She better be getting a new coach! I'm completely willing to blame all of this shittiness of Sumyk if I can but I fear she's turing into Vaidisova. :sobbing:

How exactly did she treat Van Grichen before she fired him? I wasn't able to follow her as closely at that time.

I'm not gonna go down the Nicole route yet. Radek's taken now. :lol:
But, this. I'm curious as well.
I feel like she doesn't take anything he says seriously. And didn't someone say they saw her in FL before the AO and she was doing drills with him and getting irritated because she didn't understand/see the point? Maybe that was the beginning of the end.

Spiritof42
Feb 22nd, 2011, 05:25 PM
Nice wickmayeresque handshake at the end. :tape:

There are several issues with her game at the moment, but as I wrote in the livescoring thread, it's her serving that's really annoying me. She actually hit some decent ones early on in the match, when there was no pressure, but it didn't take long for her to stop trying to do anything with it. No pace, no placement, almost no variety. She got away with it when serving at 5-4 in the 1st set, but only because of some very generous gifts from Hantuchova. I'm getting really sick of this loopy, three-quarter-pace, right-in-the-middle-of-the-box crap.

Hantuchova had the guts to go for her serve when it mattered. Vika didn't. This has cost her many matches before, particularly against the top players, and it will continue to do so as long as she doesn't at least TRY to change her habits. I think this has gone on long enough. If Sumyk is unable/unwilling to do something about it, I guess the time has come to look for a new coach. I didn't really see any evidence of a shoulder issue, but then again it's kind of hard to tell about these things when you don't have the necessary expertise.

I think the lack of variety in her ground game is starting to hurt her as well. Vika doesn't hit THAT big, and it's relatively easy for players like Clijsters, Li or even Hantuchova (who doesn't move as well as the other two) go get into a groove when playing her.

I used to be really upset after each and every one of her losses. Now, I'm beginning to get desensitized. Not a good sign.

Vikapower
Feb 22nd, 2011, 05:25 PM
She better be getting a new coach! I'm completely willing to blame all of this shittiness of Sumyk if I can but I fear she's turing into Vaidisova. :sobbing:

How exactly did she treat Van Grichen before she fired him? I wasn't able to follow her as closely at that time.

Maybe they've already seperated and this affects Vika :shrug: I wish she said something.

Jane Lane
Feb 22nd, 2011, 05:29 PM
Dani was fistpumping on Vika's DFs. She probably noticed, hence the Wicky-esque handshake.

Vikapower
Feb 22nd, 2011, 05:31 PM
This doesn't seem to be serve or not serve related anymore - Vika clearly has something bugging her in her head... That Li blow off could have maybe dismantled Vika's game and force her to re-question herself...

Maybe she doesn't believe in her game anymore wich can explain her total detachement !

Say something Vika. Please. Don't let that immense talent go down the drain like this. :sobbing:

hurricanejeanne
Feb 22nd, 2011, 05:46 PM
Kind of ignoring, leaning away as if he had bad breath (like Craig/allrounder said once) etc. :lol: She really needs a coach that has helped players to the next level, in this case Slams. But this is just very worrying. This looked like a tank, but a bad one if you know what I mean.

Nice. Maybe something happened, a fight perhaps, between her and Sumyk and that is causing her to basically ignore him but also to not be able to focus on her tennis. I've never really followed Zvonareva terribly closely (not a die-hard fan) but I recall during her time with Sumyk a lot of these same issues with her. Her emotions would be dramatically out of control, she'd get frustated and wouldn't know what to do and we all know how Bepa is when she gets frustrated. But it was obvious over the YEARS Bepa was with Sumyk she never really improved or stablized like she has (for the most part) now. I don't know who else Sumyk coached in the past but I think it's safe to say he didn't do that great of a job with Bepa and he's not doing a good job with Vika. Sure she's won two titles with him, but that's chump change for someone of Vika's talent.

One of things that always endeared me to Vika since I became a fan of her's in 2005 was that her pace of improvement was at a steady, solid clip. She didn't have a huge burst on the scene (like a Vaidisova, Sharapova, or Ivanovic) but gradually made her way up the rankings, gradually made herself a place among the elite. Now, she's in that transition period of her career and she's struggling. This could just be part of her general mentality (like how it took her a few finals to finally win her maiden title) or it could be a coaching issue.

I pray the history repeats itself and that Vika, over time, recovers her confidnce and form and takes the next step. But to regain confidence means she needs to be winning matches ugly, even if she plays like absolutely crap she needs to find a way to win. Her lack of emotions in the match worry me as well though I hope that her Wickmayer-esque handshake and attitude towards Sumyk means that the fire that she's always had is still burning and that she's going to break some stuff back at the hotel. :p

Temperenka
Feb 22nd, 2011, 06:14 PM
Soooo disappointing.

Break My Rapture
Feb 22nd, 2011, 07:04 PM
I really hope Vika fixes whatever needs to be fixed and gets into some decent form for IW and Miami, it's time that she starts winning some points again like she could have done here. :(

Nina.
Feb 22nd, 2011, 08:18 PM
I'm so disappointed in Vika right now. It's not just that she lost but the way she presented herself.
She is a pretty tall girl, I don't see a reason why she can't develop a decent serve - and I'm not talking about hitting one ace after the other but a serve with which she can put pressure on her opponent from the beginning on and that can win her a couple of free points here and there.
I am also suprised about her attitude. She seemed so uninvolved in sets 2 & 3. I never had the impression that she had the desire to fight and come back to win the match. And let's face it, she played Hantuchova, it's not like you can't get back into a match against her...

Break My Rapture
Feb 22nd, 2011, 09:50 PM
I'm so disappointed in Vika right now. It's not just that she lost but the way she presented herself.
She is a pretty tall girl, I don't see a reason why she can't develop a decent serve - and I'm not talking about hitting one ace after the other but a serve with which she can put pressure on her opponent from the beginning on and that can win her a couple of free points here and there.
I am also suprised about her attitude. She seemed so uninvolved in sets 2 & 3. I never had the impression that she had the desire to fight and come back to win the match. And let's face it, she played Hantuchova, it's not like you can't get back into a match against her...
I was thinking the same thing during the match as well. I mean even in set 2 and 3 where Dani played sublime there were still moments where you could see she started doubting and if only Vika upped her intensity and play at those times she could unstabilise Dani mentally but she looked careless. :shrug: :o

hellas719
Feb 23rd, 2011, 05:01 AM
So frustrating :(
I don't really need to make more comments on this because everyone else pretty much summed it up for me :shrug:

And she also looked pretty uninterested against Pennetta :shrug:

hurricanejeanne
Feb 23rd, 2011, 05:01 PM
Updated my signature for Vika's lovely service performance.:p I wish she'd say something about what's bothering her, because it's pretty obvious something is wrong.

Jane Lane
Feb 23rd, 2011, 05:05 PM
:haha:

I really wish she'd update too; although, someone on GM was like "Oh I heard she was having personal issues." Even though they're about as reliable as the National Enquirer, maybe it's true. :hug: Hope she sorts out whatever is going on soon.

hurricanejeanne
Feb 23rd, 2011, 05:41 PM
:haha:

I really wish she'd update too; although, someone on GM was like "Oh I heard she was having personal issues." Even though they're about as reliable as the National Enquirer, maybe it's true. :hug: Hope she sorts out whatever is going on soon.

I saw that too and was like "wtf?" because you'd think if there is something personally going on and some random wtaworld member new about it before Vikaland it would be pretty big news but I can't find squat. :shrug:

Vikapower
Feb 23rd, 2011, 06:16 PM
:haha:

I really wish she'd update too; although, someone on GM was like "Oh I heard she was having personal issues." Even though they're about as reliable as the National Enquirer, maybe it's true. :hug: Hope she sorts out whatever is going on soon.
:lol: In these kinds of situations Vika will most likely keep silent, unfortunately but if it's real personal issues then everyone can understand she willn't want to share... she needs to sort them out...

We have 3 weeks between here and IW then Miami and we're almost in mid-season already... she has absolutely nothing to defend, the past is the past, I'd like her to put all these things behind and have a new start hopefully.

Vika if somehow you're reading Vikaland :hug: we will all recomfort you as best even if these are just words. :lol:

Break My Rapture
Feb 23rd, 2011, 06:25 PM
Updated my signature for Vika's lovely service performance.:p
:sobbing: :sobbing: Love it.


Can't she like get some tips from retired GOAT servers like Davenport, Sampras or something? Surely they could help her a bit with her technique, if that is what's holding Vika's serve back.

hurricanejeanne
Feb 23rd, 2011, 07:15 PM
:sobbing: :sobbing: Love it.


Can't she like get some tips from retired GOAT servers like Davenport, Sampras or something? Surely they could help her a bit with her technique, if that is what's holding Vika's serve back.

What's weird about Vika's serve is it doesn't look to have a technical problem with it (at least not one I've noticed). I can't see a hitch with it at all and the motion is pretty smooth, so I think it's all psychological. I mean she's had poor serving days in the past but she's never been this inconsistent with it.

I would sell a kidney to get Lindsay to help Vika. She's always talking about how much she loves Vika's game and expects her to do well. So I wish Linds would stop sending her old coaches (Van't Hof and Peterson) to Coco who isn't going to anything terribly special and send them to Vika. If anyone could get Vika's shit together it would be Van't Hof. :sobbing:

saul1333
Feb 23rd, 2011, 07:17 PM
Nice sig..very apt :help:

Vikapower
Feb 23rd, 2011, 07:28 PM
:sobbing: :sobbing: Love it.


Can't she like get some tips from retired GOAT servers like Davenport, Sampras or something? Surely they could help her a bit with her technique, if that is what's holding Vika's serve back.
She doesn't need to get a GOAT :lol: just a coach or anybody competent who has solid knowledge about serve mechanics...

Moratoglou... :devil:

Break My Rapture
Feb 23rd, 2011, 09:42 PM
I would sell a kidney to get Lindsay to help Vika. She's always talking about how much she loves Vika's game and expects her to do well. So I wish Linds would stop sending her old coaches (Van't Hof and Peterson) to Coco who isn't going to anything terribly special and send them to Vika. If anyone could get Vika's shit together it would be Van't Hof. :sobbing:
:crying2:

It so needs to happen, doesn't it? :lol: I think one of Lindsay's coaches would be very helpful for Vika, not sure of how likely the chances are though. :sobbing:

bluestorm10
Feb 24th, 2011, 12:40 AM
I saw that too and was like "wtf?" because you'd think if there is something personally going on and some random wtaworld member new about it before Vikaland it would be pretty big news but I can't find squat. :shrug:

Hey all! Can someone point me to that post? :)

If she has a personal problem, then I feel really bad that I was pretty harsh about her current performances. Besides, it's much easier to try and remain as positive as I/we can than being upset about this. :p

hurricanejeanne
Feb 24th, 2011, 03:35 AM
Hey all! Can someone point me to that post? :)

If she has a personal problem, then I feel really bad that I was pretty harsh about her current performances. Besides, it's much easier to try and remain as positive as I/we can than being upset about this. :p

Here's the link to the post the alludes to the "personal problem":
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=19194459&postcount=33

If it is something personal and not tennis related then I think we all would feel bad about being so harsh on her, but also that would mean eventually she'll be back to her normal self. But if it's something tennis related (like issues with Sumyk or yips on her serve) then it's still fixable but only Vika can fix it. She'd have to make the choice to get a new coach and adapt to fixing her mentality towards her serve.

It's a very small possibility that one of Lindsay's old coaches would work with Vika, and I think the only way it would happen is if Lindsay herself asked them to help Vika(like she did with Vandeweghe, she asked both Van't Hof and Peterson to work with her before she got linked in with the USTA). Van't Hof was a genius with Lindsay. He got her to lose all that extra weight, got her to believe in herself and her game to win slams and got her through knee surgery. The only reason they stopped working together was because he wanted to spend more time with his kids which lead to Peterson (who's her husband's best friend) taking over.

I'm trying to think of known coaches out there that could help Vika but none are coming to mind that aren't already taken.

Dominika23
Feb 24th, 2011, 04:07 AM
It Odd Because Back in 09 Vika Serve was Pretty Good and she was more powerful to me with her forehand. It seem now that her Serve just died and she favor her backhand more. But Vika really need to get together she still to me top 3 material she just gotta get her game together like it used to be

Dominika23
Feb 24th, 2011, 04:08 AM
Here a Video That Show here Serve wasn't always so bad it in 09. This is how she need to be serveing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgnmosrXIFs

bluestorm10
Feb 24th, 2011, 04:11 AM
Here's the link to the post the alludes to the "personal problem":
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=19194459&postcount=33

If it is something personal and not tennis related then I think we all would feel bad about being so harsh on her, but also that would mean eventually she'll be back to her normal self. But if it's something tennis related (like issues with Sumyk or yips on her serve) then it's still fixable but only Vika can fix it. She'd have to make the choice to get a new coach and adapt to fixing her mentality towards her serve.

It's a very small possibility that one of Lindsay's old coaches would work with Vika, and I think the only way it would happen is if Lindsay herself asked them to help Vika(like she did with Vandeweghe, she asked both Van't Hof and Peterson to work with her before she got linked in with the USTA). Van't Hof was a genius with Lindsay. He got her to lose all that extra weight, got her to believe in herself and her game to win slams and got her through knee surgery. The only reason they stopped working together was because he wanted to spend more time with his kids which lead to Peterson (who's her husband's best friend) taking over.

I'm trying to think of known coaches out there that could help Vika but none are coming to mind that aren't already taken.

Thanks!

I'd be thrilled if Lindsay takes an interest in Vika. It would do Vika well to learn from her.

If she's having personal issues, I definitely don't expect her to be her usual self on Twitter but is it just me or is her latest silence (other than "playing blah blah tomorrow. yay!") a bit more disconcerting? Only through the past two losses though. She was her normal, awesome self on twitter before Dubai I think. :lol:

Vikapower
Feb 24th, 2011, 10:05 AM
Here a Video That Show here Serve wasn't always so bad it in 09. This is how she need to be serveing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgnmosrXIFs

Vintage... both girls serving so well that day especially in the first set...

I guess everyone knows how she should be serving the problem is how to make her effectively do so... not 1 or 2 times a year but in every match...

Furthermore pointing out her serve like GM does like as if it'd be the miracle solution if she gets it fixed to all her tennis problems is too easy to be true IMO...

Break My Rapture
Feb 24th, 2011, 04:48 PM
Here a Video That Show here Serve wasn't always so bad it in 09. This is how she need to be serveing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgnmosrXIFs
Vika always tends to go for her first serve more on grass. Same happened this year at Eastbourne where she hit like 10 aces against Bartoli I think.

hurricanejeanne
Feb 24th, 2011, 07:54 PM
Thanks!

I'd be thrilled if Lindsay takes an interest in Vika. It would do Vika well to learn from her.

If she's having personal issues, I definitely don't expect her to be her usual self on Twitter but is it just me or is her latest silence (other than "playing blah blah tomorrow. yay!") a bit more disconcerting? Only through the past two losses though. She was her normal, awesome self on twitter before Dubai I think. :lol:

You're welcome!
Yeah her recent tweets have been very general which is unlike her. But I think it's good that she's gone silent after this recent loss, it's familiar behavior of her's which I think shows that she's hurt by the loss (at least I hope so more than she let on with her lack of fight in the match).

I want our Temper tantrum, racquet breaking, making the crowd hiss Vika back. :hysteric:

liztennis
Feb 24th, 2011, 11:38 PM
it seems that her serve motion was more fluid and accurate 2 years ago ...it looks like sumyk changed her motion ......
hoping for the best!!!!

liztennis
Feb 24th, 2011, 11:40 PM
Vika always tends to go for her first serve more on grass. Same happened this year at Eastbourne where she hit like 10 aces against Bartoli I think.

looking at this video her serve was more fluid 2 years ago..it seems for the past year sumy changed her motion....hope she will fix it and start using it as a weapon

hellas719
Feb 25th, 2011, 04:44 AM
Well now that Ivanovic dumped van Grichen, and we all know that Vika was playing well when she worked with him, maybe she should go back to him? :unsure:

And could her personal problems be about her boyfriend? Because they might be. Although he seems to be doing fine because he just had the best week of his career in Dubai :lol:

Vikapower
Feb 25th, 2011, 10:45 PM
Well now that Ivanovic dumped van Grichen, and we all know that Vika was playing well when she worked with him, maybe she should go back to him? :unsure:

And could her personal problems be about her boyfriend? Because they might be. Although he seems to be doing fine because he just had the best week of his career in Dubai :lol:
Van Grichen again ? She left him because she wanted to hear new words you really think she'll have back for the same speech ? IDK that seems doubtful... and I've read many times that it's Antonio who was encouraging Vika to spin her first serve in...

Jane Lane
Feb 25th, 2011, 10:47 PM
I did notice that with Bubka. :haha:

I'm still sticking with my Gilbert pick. What's he doing lately? ESPN doesn't need him...they've got plenty of clowns to keep him covered for a while.

EDIT: Damn. He's working with Neishikori in the ATP....who seems to have remembered how to win of late.