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JamieOwen3
Aug 7th, 2010, 07:59 PM
:lol: it's not because i don't know who to support,it's because i think the match would be so close it's too hard to pick who i think will win ;)
and fran i think is STILL in party mode,i don't think she still can't believe she's a slam champion after being on the tour for all these years.

Derek.
Aug 7th, 2010, 08:19 PM
It's a tricky draw, but if she plays like in Stanford she could be in another final.

Vikapower
Aug 7th, 2010, 08:38 PM
:lol: it's not because i don't know who to support,it's because i think the match would be so close it's too hard to pick who i think will win ;)
and fran i think is STILL in party mode,i don't think she still can't believe she's a slam champion after being on the tour for all these years.
Oh well for sure or maybe not and we're in the US. (Kim's home) :sad: That would be a very close match - already Eastbourne was very very frustrating personally I hate Kim/Vika match ups because it seems to me that Vika's tennis suits Kim's game very very very well... IDK their match ups kind of reminds me Berdych/Davydenko - the clean power stricker against the one that uses and redirects pace very well - anyways if Vika reaches that stage for me she has made a great tournament already but I wouldn't spit on a title like Cincy or Toronto. :lol: I just want my top 7 seed for the USO that's not a lot to ask for. :angel:

JamieOwen3
Aug 7th, 2010, 08:47 PM
Oh well for sure or maybe not and we're in the US. (Kim's home) :sad: That would be a very close match - already Eastbourne was very very frustrating personally I hate Kim/Vika match ups because it seems to me that Vika's tennis suits Kim's game very very very well... IDK their match ups kind of reminds me Berdych/Davydenko - the clean power stricker against the one that uses and redirects pace very well - anyways if Vika reaches that stage for me she has made a great tournament already but I wouldn't spit on a title like Cincy or Toronto. :lol: I just want my top 7 seed for the USO that's not a lot to ask for. :angel:

:lol: no not at all, ive been asking for that for maria since last year and if she had done better in Aus Open she might have been there :sad: ,but anyway yes Vika could make it deffinetely and if some others lose ranking points she could be helped by that as well as gain points for doing well.

Vikapower
Aug 7th, 2010, 10:36 PM
Definitively... Decoturf queen, your majesty, enlighten the dark side with your game so that they realize that resistance is all but vain. :worship: I was just thinking about that players who have won a tourney just after wimbledon has always followed that up with an incredible winning streak - Anna was 9-0, Julia was 11-0 I think and Anastasia still has her 5-0 streak that would be great if Vika followed the trend, just sayin'. :lol:

P.S. I was boringly hovering in Ana's forum to see what her fans thought about the fact that Ana drew Vika - well overall deceiption but the general thinking of Vika is a forum overhyped player, only plays good 1 or 2 tourneys a year or is an on and off court spoilt child and some other indecent things makes me more eager for Vika to play in Dubaï or AO mode and lost from 0 to 2 games in that match. :devil:>>>>>:angel:

VIKA?
Aug 7th, 2010, 11:01 PM
I don't like the draw:tears: Ivanovic and Shvedova scares me a bit but hopefully she still in that Stanford form and keep destroying her oponents:D it would also be nice if she could get a revenge against Schiavonne:drool:

good luck girl:cheer:

Delfii
Aug 7th, 2010, 11:33 PM
Vika got a horrible draw :sad:
But she's a fighter and if she play like in Stanford I've no doubt she'll make SF or more :cheer:
But I hate this organisation, look JJ draw :o
(1)Jankovic v BYE
Q v Q
Q v Q
Q v (14)Rezai

This is kinda stupid! Qualifier vs Qualifier !

Also Masha vs Sexlana :(
The organisation is stupid :help:
I just want Vika to trash everyone and win it :bounce:

bluestorm10
Aug 8th, 2010, 03:23 AM
P.S. I was boringly hovering in Ana's forum to see what her fans thought about the fact that Ana drew Vika - well overall deceiption but the general thinking of Vika is a forum overhyped player, only plays good 1 or 2 tourneys a year or is an on and off court spoilt child and some other indecent things makes me more eager for Vika to play in Dubaï or AO mode and lost from 0 to 2 games in that match. :devil:>>>>>:angel:

For this and for so many other reasons I hate the draw. Other than Ana being quite dangerous,

I just won't be able to stand it if Vika loses to her and Ana fans explode again (like they did in Rome). Maybe it's because my favourite blog to visit loves Ana to death but I can't deal with it a second time. Plus dealing with the notion by some that one is super angelic and the other is the devil incarnate (please). I might need to go on internet hiatus for like a month and I will definitely need a drink. :sobbing:

Now I'm REALLY nervous. :lol:

hurricanejeanne
Aug 8th, 2010, 03:52 AM
For this and for so many other reasons I hate the draw. Other than Ana being quite dangerous,

I just won't be able to stand it if Vika loses to her and Ana fans explode again (like they did in Rome). Maybe it's because my favourite blog to visit loves Ana to death but I can't deal with it a second time. Plus dealing with the notion by some that one is super angelic and the other is the devil incarnate (please). I might need to go on internet hiatus for like a month and I will definitely need a drink. :sobbing:

Now I'm REALLY nervous. :lol:

What you said. :p
I couldn't handle the Ivanovic spazes freaking out again. Vika was hurt in Rome, everyone knew it but them. Hopefully, Vika's in her Stanford form and can handle this draw.

I keep telling myself one match at a time but I'm really nervous. :scared:

hERi
Aug 8th, 2010, 04:51 AM
I guess Vika's big opponents to be destroyed to reach top 10 so far are agnieszka, caro dan jelena..amongs them jelena is not so tough for vika

Break My Rapture
Aug 8th, 2010, 12:37 PM
Vika plays the night session match on Monday. :cheer:

Good luck Vika. :hearts:

Nikkiri
Aug 8th, 2010, 01:00 PM
I like both players a lot and I don't share that opinion of Vika nor do most Ana fans in her forum. So just good luck to her. :cheer:

Rafito.
Aug 8th, 2010, 01:02 PM
I hate when two of my favourites play in the 1st round :bigcry: Sucks so bad.

VIKA?
Aug 8th, 2010, 01:57 PM
Vika plays the night session match on Monday. :cheer:

Good luck Vika. :hearts:
OOP?

Break My Rapture
Aug 8th, 2010, 02:16 PM
It's not out yet. :lol:

VIKA?
Aug 8th, 2010, 02:21 PM
Where did you see it then:tears:

Break My Rapture
Aug 8th, 2010, 02:30 PM
Twitter. :p

VIKA?
Aug 8th, 2010, 02:42 PM
oh ok:lol:

Break My Rapture
Aug 8th, 2010, 05:12 PM
Vikkiri play Kops-Jones/Rosolska in Cincy doubles R1. :)

VIKA?
Aug 8th, 2010, 06:11 PM
Vikkiri is back:cheer::hearts:

Delfii
Aug 8th, 2010, 06:19 PM
Vikkiri :D :hearts:
Good Luck ! :bounce:

Igor_Biscan
Aug 8th, 2010, 06:24 PM
Her singles draw is tough, but least it's not boring like San Diego would have been :p

Obviously her shoulder is fine ;) if she's playing doubles this week as well. Good luck Vikkiri!

Derek.
Aug 8th, 2010, 07:23 PM
Good luck Vika! :)

saul1333
Aug 9th, 2010, 07:05 AM
Just watched her Stanford match and she was amazing :hearts:

GL in Cincy..

Igor_Biscan
Aug 9th, 2010, 11:08 AM
So.. 7.20pm tonight Cinci time. Probably won't be able to stay up to follow it, but good luck Vika!

Delfii
Aug 9th, 2010, 04:37 PM
According to Cincy time only 1 hour difference from here :)
So is 8:20pm.
I'm able to see it i guess :D
Good luck Vika :hearts:
Please don't make me suffer :lol:

Martian Jeza
Aug 10th, 2010, 01:59 AM
Choke + Implosion : what else to say ? :shrug:

saul1333
Aug 10th, 2010, 02:01 AM
Hmmm..interesting lost considering how much she was dominating.

Could there be something legit about her injury?

Martian Jeza
Aug 10th, 2010, 02:03 AM
Hmmm..interesting lost considering how much she was dominating.

Could there be something legit about her injury?

Fellow some Ana fans, it was Ana the most injured ! I like Ana but she's not my n°1.

allrounder
Aug 10th, 2010, 02:04 AM
Urgh its times like this when i really hate being such a big Vika fan :sobbing: this is like a flashback to Doha and the matches she lost to Caro and Aga where she was cruising towards a routine straight sets win and somehow managed to self-destruct and lose both matches :o After Stanford this is a case of one step forward and two steps back :( I hope there's nothing really wrong with her shoulder :unsure:

Martian Jeza
Aug 10th, 2010, 02:05 AM
Urgh its times like this when i really hate being such a big Vika fan :sobbing: this is like a flashback to Doha and the matches she lost to Caro and Aga where she was cruising towards a routine straight sets win and somehow managed to self-destruct and lose both matches :o After Stanford this is a case of one step forward and two steps back :( I hope there's nothing really wrong with her shoulder :unsure:

As if being fan of Caroline was much better, Villa fan :haha:

hurricanejeanne
Aug 10th, 2010, 02:06 AM
Hmmm..interesting lost considering how much she was dominating.

Could there be something legit about her injury?

I'm starting to think so. :unsure:

I just don't get how she can just throw in 3 doubles when serving for it. Ana maybe starting to win the occassional match but she's far from her best form and for Vika to lose to her TWICE now this year is just embarassing. I hope Vika comes out and says she choked, fell apart, something because I have a hard time believing that Ana suddenly found her magical form again.

Rafito.
Aug 10th, 2010, 02:10 AM
Just read that Vika walked into the press wiping away tears :sad:

hurricanejeanne
Aug 10th, 2010, 02:13 AM
Just read that Vika walked into the press wiping away tears :sad:

She really did choke it all away. I hope she's not hurt. :sad::scared:

HowardH
Aug 10th, 2010, 02:21 AM
Vika :hug:. Ana is still dangerous, although her level is unstable. And Vika may be a little tired. However, the DFs are concerning. I mentioned a few months ago this problem for Vika- she has become used to getting a very high first serve percentage in by not hitting it too hard. In this way she avoids hitting too many second serves, but I think this is also a problem. When she needs the second serve under pressure, it isn't there for her, because she has been avoiding that pressure. I still believe she needs to go for the first serve more and learn how to handle the pressure of serving second serves. Sampras never took pace off the first. He knew the second was there to bail him out anyway. I don't expect her to be able to serve like him, but better than this anyway.

One telling stat: In three sets Vika got 69% of first serves in.
She also got 59% of second serves in.

Lower second serve percentage than first serve. You can't win a match that way. I know that Ana's fh return is very dangerous and puts some pressure on her opponents, but surely she can spin it to her bh? I think she spoils herself by going for such a high serve percentage, she isn't used to serving second serves under pressure anymore. It's almost like she has reduced the difference between her first and second serve- the first serve now has some of the speed of a second serve, while the second serve has some of the mistakes of the first. She needs to have a clearer separation of the two techniques.

I know she just had a good tournament, but still. This problem has occurred too many times to be a coincidence. She definitely has a problem with second serves under pressure, which pops up from time to time. She has to improve it. And she needs to hit that first serve harder. It's so useful for saving big points- even Caro, who was struggling to close out Zakopalova in Denmark, used a big first serve to finish the match.

If she turns out to be hurt it's a little more forgiveable, but I hope she isn't. She just got over those annoying knee problems.

allrounder
Aug 10th, 2010, 02:27 AM
Maybe the grass at Eastbourne and Wimby was making her first serve look better than it really was because she served 14 aces in her first 2 matches at Wimby and it really looked like a weapon. Even at Stanford while she wasn't hitting bombs she was at least placing it well and mixing it up. I'm glad we couldn't see this trainwreck of a match but really curious at the same time to know WTF went on :lol:

hurricanejeanne
Aug 10th, 2010, 02:40 AM
Vika really imploded. I know she has a tendency to do this (and she probably always will) but she's been so good at cleaning it up over the last year or so. And after Stanford she really seemed on pace and composed within her game, playing within herself and keeping her head together throughout the matches. Here, I think she lost her concentration, lost her composure, thought too far a head and then it all went down hill. I do agree with Howard that she's not used to playing pressured second serves anymore and when she needed to play them (when she served for the match) she missed. And really after she lost the tiebreak I had a feeling that she was so far imploded that nothing could save bar Ana hitting balls into the stands.

Vika doesn't have a bad serve, but her serve does seem to be hot and cold in patches and while it's a good thing to have a well placed, solid paced first and second serve for when your best first serve is off, she just seemed to have not been thinking tonight.
It would be one thing for her to come out and suck from start to finish but to have the match on her racquet only to start to suck when all she had to do was close it out is the most depressing way to lose. Especially to a player who's in a career crisis.

I hope she's not injured though. :unsure: But I really hope she says something either in a press conference or on twitter about what happened tonight.

Nina.
Aug 10th, 2010, 07:00 AM
WTF was that :hysteric:
That's not the kind of result I want to wake up to...

Igor_Biscan
Aug 10th, 2010, 08:24 AM
wtf :sad:

WTF was that :hysteric:
That's not the kind of result I want to wake up to...

yeah exactly. I was hoping I was still asleep

JamieOwen3
Aug 10th, 2010, 08:42 AM
was she playing bad? i mean im happy for ana but if it's because vika played badly then ana winning isn't something to shout about yet.
is she playing montreal? im sure she'll get on the practice court andtrain hard all week and have a ggod run there.
im dissapointed in this result to be honest,i was hoping for a vika vs kim SF.

Nina.
Aug 10th, 2010, 08:54 AM
Was the match televised by the way?

From what I read she was serving for the match twice but she couldn't hold. That's a major weakness in her game. Just remember AO 2010 and the lead she had against Serena. I know that's not easy but when she wants to win majors she should be able to do it regularly.

Break My Rapture
Aug 10th, 2010, 09:08 AM
I'm gutted by this loss. :sad: I can't believe Vika choked this one away. I wanted her to get the biggest lead as possible in that second set to avoid pressure of closing it out and I thought after she held for 5-3 (which was a tough game) she should've had it in the bag. :sobbing: So her shoulder injury WAS real after all, get well soon Vika. :hug: I hope she pulls out of doubles.

Some Ana fans in GM going hysterical over this win. :spit:

Nikkiri
Aug 10th, 2010, 09:17 AM
Yes, how dare Ana fans be happy.

Bad luck Vika.

Break My Rapture
Aug 10th, 2010, 09:31 AM
I'm not saying Ana fans can't be happy.
Some of them are going crazy because of this win when Vika choked her ass off and was apparently injured as well.
I don't think this is such a high-credibility win for Ana. :shrug: If she backs it up with another couple of wins then they can celebrate like crazies, as Ana now has one of the better draws and can go deep. Sigh I'm just sick of Vika always choking/running into redhot players/getting injured so much this year.. :o

allrounder
Aug 10th, 2010, 10:14 AM
In an article I read Vika refused to blame her shoulder for the DF's and just said she lost her rhythm on her serve which I suppose is 'good' news :sad: I can't ever remember her serving as many DF's in a match as that though, the closest was probably last year here against JJ when she had about 10. The most worrying thing for me was how tamely she went down in the third set after having handled Ivanovic pretty easily until she began to choke with the DF's when she served for the match and didn't even create 1 BP opportunity :( I know it's not easy to do but she needs to learn to put setbacks behind her like losing the second set after serving for the match twice and regroup in the third and get back to what she had been doing so well for 99% of the match up until then.

Nina.
Aug 10th, 2010, 10:35 AM
The DFs are a bit worrying... I still don't really want to believe in a shoulder injury. I thought she is just smart to skip SD after the great & long run in Stanford

JadeFox
Aug 10th, 2010, 10:41 AM
Didn't see the match, I was feeling sick. Couldn't believe she had chances to win it in two but didn't. Closing out matches is something she really needs to work on.

And I hope there's nothing too serious with her shoulder either. I don't need yet another fave of mine have shoulder problems. :hug:

Andreas
Aug 10th, 2010, 10:59 AM
Just when you think she was actually improving her mentality :lol:

Obviously, I'm happy that Ana got a good win, but it bothers me even more that Vika could not close out the match. I really want her to make the YEC and falling in the 1st round of a big event is not going to help her :unsure:

When I woke up this morning I actually thought it had just been a dream :o

allrounder
Aug 10th, 2010, 11:02 AM
Yeah time is beginning to run out for Vika to qualify for Doha as a top 8 player :scared: There's only Montreal, USO, Tokyo, Beijing left where she can get really big points and she probably needs to go really deep or win in at least 2 of them. Her record in Tier 1's and slams since Dubai has been awful, although for most of them she hasn't been 100% fit.

VIKA?
Aug 10th, 2010, 11:11 AM
I'm still shocked:sobbing: can't believe she lost after leading 4-2 30-0 :hysteric:

TheBoiledEgg
Aug 10th, 2010, 04:28 PM
omg Vika :bigcry: :( :sad:
didnt know she was that far up :mad:

now i wish she did play last week
she'd have won that too

hurricanejeanne
Aug 10th, 2010, 06:43 PM
Yeah time is beginning to run out for Vika to qualify for Doha as a top 8 player :scared: There's only Montreal, USO, Tokyo, Beijing left where she can get really big points and she probably needs to go really deep or win in at least 2 of them. Her record in Tier 1's and slams since Dubai has been awful, although for most of them she hasn't been 100% fit.

I stopped worrying about Doha a long time ago (when she got hurt this spring). She'd need a miracle run of either super consistant deep runs in all her events the rest of the year or winning two or three tournaments to get in now, I think.

I know her serve has always been sort of her weak spot in her game (like most players) but her percentages weren't bad in last night's match it was just when she needed to hold, she couldn't get a serve in. I can't think of a time where she literally froze up like that. It's one thing to get nervous vs. Serena in a grandslam match, but against Slumping Ivanovic in a first round? It just doesn't add up.

I hope she goes out to the practice courts the rest of this week and hits serve after serve. She needs to regain some confidence that she can get a ball in the court.

hellas719
Aug 11th, 2010, 05:40 AM
Vika :o

HowardH
Aug 11th, 2010, 08:52 AM
I'm not saying Ana fans can't be happy.
Some of them are going crazy because of this win when Vika choked her ass off and was apparently injured as well.
I don't think this is such a high-credibility win for Ana. :shrug: If she backs it up with another couple of wins then they can celebrate like crazies, as Ana now has one of the better draws and can go deep. Sigh I'm just sick of Vika always choking/running into redhot players/getting injured so much this year.. :o

I'm an Ana fan as well, and I'm not that excited by this win. Ana will always be dangerous, there's always a chance she'll turn up and play top 5 tennis on any particular day. She has that big whippy fh and the serve (minus the toss) is pretty big too. But that's hardly the point. She has issues to deal with. If she loses to Slava next round nothing will have changed, she will still be in a slump. Even one good tournament isn't enough to turn Ana's career, as we saw in Rome. She needs more. She needs a good run of tournaments. Who knows when that will happen.

Vika was very unlucky with draws over the last year. This wasn't really a bad draw for her, I was expecting Vika to win, but it didn't turn out that way. I'm just glad I'm not seeing knee strapping on her anymore. The injuries were just cascading for Vika, one injury leading to another. Staying healthy is important. At least now she gets a rest.

I stopped worrying about Doha a long time ago (when she got hurt this spring). She'd need a miracle run of either super consistant deep runs in all her events the rest of the year or winning two or three tournaments to get in now, I think.

I know her serve has always been sort of her weak spot in her game (like most players) but her percentages weren't bad in last night's match it was just when she needed to hold, she couldn't get a serve in. I can't think of a time where she literally froze up like that. It's one thing to get nervous vs. Serena in a grandslam match, but against Slumping Ivanovic in a first round? It just doesn't add up.

I hope she goes out to the practice courts the rest of this week and hits serve after serve. She needs to regain some confidence that she can get a ball in the court.

Yes, I agree Doha is probably not a priority right now, it's possible but not that likely. Vika just needs to build up some results and momentum going into next year. I knew Vika would struggle to close out Serena in the AO (and she didn't really choke too much, Serena lifted) but you would think she would take out Ana at this stage, given Ana's struggles. However, Ana is definitely still dangerous, unlike the majority of low-ranked players. Ana's just not very dependable. Or mentally tough (which is why it was surprising that Vika was the one who seemed to suffer under the pressure more).

I really would like Vika to improve her serve to the point that it's actually a weapon. Might not happen, but at least it needs to be good enough to not doublefault so much under pressure. I was actually expecting Vika to have few problems on second serve because although Ana's fh is big, if you place the second serve on her bh you are usually completely safe. But she was hardly winning a thing on second serve. If you compare Marion's stats against Ana the other week, it's the other way around- Ana couldn't win anything on Marion's second serve, probably because Marion placed it nicely on her bh side. But Vika's second serve rhythm was so poor that she was probably forced to place it in the centre of the box to avoid doublefaulting.

hurricanejeanne
Aug 11th, 2010, 06:14 PM
I'm an Ana fan as well, and I'm not that excited by this win. Ana will always be dangerous, there's always a chance she'll turn up and play top 5 tennis on any particular day. She has that big whippy fh and the serve (minus the toss) is pretty big too. But that's hardly the point. She has issues to deal with. If she loses to Slava next round nothing will have changed, she will still be in a slump. Even one good tournament isn't enough to turn Ana's career, as we saw in Rome. She needs more. She needs a good run of tournaments. Who knows when that will happen.

Vika was very unlucky with draws over the last year. This wasn't really a bad draw for her, I was expecting Vika to win, but it didn't turn out that way. I'm just glad I'm not seeing knee strapping on her anymore. The injuries were just cascading for Vika, one injury leading to another. Staying healthy is important. At least now she gets a rest.



Yes, I agree Doha is probably not a priority right now, it's possible but not that likely. Vika just needs to build up some results and momentum going into next year. I knew Vika would struggle to close out Serena in the AO (and she didn't really choke too much, Serena lifted) but you would think she would take out Ana at this stage, given Ana's struggles. However, Ana is definitely still dangerous, unlike the majority of low-ranked players. Ana's just not very dependable. Or mentally tough (which is why it was surprising that Vika was the one who seemed to suffer under the pressure more).

I really would like Vika to improve her serve to the point that it's actually a weapon. Might not happen, but at least it needs to be good enough to not doublefault so much under pressure. I was actually expecting Vika to have few problems on second serve because although Ana's fh is big, if you place the second serve on her bh you are usually completely safe. But she was hardly winning a thing on second serve. If you compare Marion's stats against Ana the other week, it's the other way around- Ana couldn't win anything on Marion's second serve, probably because Marion placed it nicely on her bh side. But Vika's second serve rhythm was so poor that she was probably forced to place it in the centre of the box to avoid doublefaulting.

She definitely needs to work on her serve. She has a very solid serve that she can place pretty well with pretty good speeds. She does need to work on it's consistency as well as different placements, move it around the box a bit more so she has more options when some of her best first serves start to miss. I'm not sure she'll ever has her serve as a get-me-out-of-a-jam weapon like some players do but she certainly can improve it to the point where it's not as attackable.

Vikapower
Aug 11th, 2010, 06:44 PM
Why does my internet suck this much ? :mad: I can't believe this loss - I've carefully read each and every comment to try and figure out the reasons why...

This looks like the the nightmare Safina, Aga, Caro, Maria... matches - an eternal repeat... My deceiption is enormous because Vika had the draw for her to go deep. :rolleyes:

I wouldn't have minded Vika loosing to a worldclass Ana but choking that much is just mindblowing and sickening. :rolleays: Oh my... come on Victoria time has come to stop constantly tilting between brillance and this - time is for composure, consistency, emotional control - Please get that for the up coming events and the rest of the season.

It looked like her serve was an issue... Personally I don't even mind Vika's serve, is that really an issue ? I'm starting to believe that her serve is overdramatized more that it should be... Mentality ? - The source of all her difficulties on that shot but it just takes ages to reach because she keeps tilting... I wish she dealt with that once and for all.

It's fustrating because her technique on serve is good but just the tension she feels when she's pressured just ruins everything... She clearly took a bad habit of spinning her serve to rely on her ground game. Yes her groundstrokes can be brillant but now she's realized that she needs her serve to be aggressive for higher levels then she kind of struggles.

Jeanne you say that Victoria needs to work on her serve placement more but what interest is there to practise these if in the key moments Vika keeps reverting to her old serve back ? What interest there is to do this if when things become thight of her incapable of delivering ?

I doubt Vika will ever have a blastering serve but gosh if she could at least be thougher on that shot for it not to break down in key moments that would be very cool. I'm very little notions on psychology but even if she practises her heart out on serve she needs to understand to go for the shot. There are double faults and DOUBLE FAULTS... The double faults in the middle of the net, wow you're not putting enought racket head speed on your shot to even pass the net and that tells how afraid you are - the DOUBLE FAULTS is just a question of to much power thus control. I wished she just smacked the second serve as hard as she could and sometimes miss the box ala Gulbis her BFF even if it could be frustrating or risky. I'd prefer too much than very little...

allrounder
Aug 12th, 2010, 01:01 AM
Vikkiri win 7-5 6-1 :banana:

Next up is 3rd seeds Peschke and Srebotnik

saul1333
Aug 12th, 2010, 01:01 AM
Good stuff girls..

VIKA?
Aug 12th, 2010, 09:43 AM
well at least she wins in doubles.

Igor_Biscan
Aug 12th, 2010, 10:55 AM
Good job ladies. Probably nice to play competitive but not-too-serious tennis rather than just practising for the rest of the week

hurricanejeanne
Aug 12th, 2010, 06:24 PM
Why does my internet suck this much ? :mad: I can't believe this loss - I've carefully read each and every comment to try and figure out the reasons why...

This looks like the the nightmare Safina, Aga, Caro, Maria... matches - an eternal repeat... My deceiption is enormous because Vika had the draw for her to go deep. :rolleyes:

I wouldn't have minded Vika loosing to a worldclass Ana but choking that much is just mindblowing and sickening. :rolleays: Oh my... come on Victoria time has come to stop constantly tilting between brillance and this - time is for composure, consistency, emotional control - Please get that for the up coming events and the rest of the season.

It looked like her serve was an issue... Personally I don't even mind Vika's serve, is that really an issue ? I'm starting to believe that her serve is overdramatized more that it should be... Mentality ? - The source of all her difficulties on that shot but it just takes ages to reach because she keeps tilting... I wish she dealt with that once and for all.

It's fustrating because her technique on serve is good but just the tension she feels when she's pressured just ruins everything... She clearly took a bad habit of spinning her serve to rely on her ground game. Yes her groundstrokes can be brillant but now she's realized that she needs her serve to be aggressive for higher levels then she kind of struggles.

Jeanne you say that Victoria needs to work on her serve placement more but what interest is there to practise these if in the key moments Vika keeps reverting to her old serve back ? What interest there is to do this if when things become thight of her incapable of delivering ?
I doubt Vika will ever have a blastering serve but gosh if she could at least be thougher on that shot for it not to break down in key moments that would be very cool. I'm very little notions on psychology but even if she practises her heart out on serve she needs to understand to go for the shot. There are double faults and DOUBLE FAULTS... The double faults in the middle of the net, wow you're not putting enought racket head speed on your shot to even pass the net and that tells how afraid you are - the DOUBLE FAULTS is just a question of to much power thus control. I wished she just smacked the second serve as hard as she could and sometimes miss the box ala Gulbis her BFF even if it could be frustrating or risky. I'd prefer too much than very little...

Learning more placements will allow her to develope more of a range of serves overall, and the more comfortable she is with those match in and match out the more likely she'll use them and the more comfortable she becomes the less likely she'll doublefault when serving for matches because she'll have more options.
Yes, she definitely has to work on the mental side of things. Vika's mentality has improved a lot over the last couple of years but there's still tons of room for improvement. Practicing placing her serve in different ways will make her just much more comfortable serving, period. Having only a few different serves to go for also makes her serve predictable and attackable. I wouldn't be surprised if before the onslaught of double faults occured there were a couple of second serves she just put in the box got hammered and, by the grace of god, Ana's returns landed in and put fear in Vika's head. And then she started to either go for too much, and missed, or too little and missed. She got nervous. And if she's getting nervous about her serve becoming attackable then she needs to practice it more and change up her placements so she becomes more comfortable, when you're not serving well, you need to have a good B serve and you need to rely on placement and not just speed. And if she has more options then the returner won't be able to read her serve as easily too.

Very solid win in doubles! :cheer: It's good to see her playing compeitive tennis and working out the kinks instead of just practicing. :)

allrounder
Aug 12th, 2010, 10:09 PM
Vikkiri win again 6-0 6-2 :banana:

Niculescu/Mirza next.

saul1333
Aug 12th, 2010, 10:10 PM
nice schooling..

Break My Rapture
Aug 12th, 2010, 10:10 PM
Wow what a demolition job on the #2 seeds. :lol:

Delfii
Aug 12th, 2010, 10:11 PM
Yeah :) hope those 2 DF weren't from Vika :lol:
Good luck next round :cheer:

JamieOwen3
Aug 12th, 2010, 10:13 PM
doubles play is VERY good for her singles i wish Maria S would play more doubles like she used to. her volley will improve and her transition game will get better so vika can only benefit from playing doubles :yeah:

VIKA?
Aug 12th, 2010, 10:36 PM
Wow:eek::lol: I expected them to lose! good job girls.

hellas719
Aug 12th, 2010, 11:52 PM
Doubles :woohoo:

hurricanejeanne
Aug 13th, 2010, 02:38 AM
Yeah :) hope those 2 DF weren't from Vika :lol:
Good luck next round :cheer:

:lol: I know right!

Wow, what a beat down! I think it's safe to say Vika is hellbent on getting her game back on track after her singles loss.

Keep it up, Vikiri! :cheer:

allrounder
Aug 13th, 2010, 04:43 PM
Vikkiri into SF's with a 6-2 7-5 win :worship:

saul1333
Aug 13th, 2010, 04:44 PM
Last when I checked Mirza/Niculescu were serving for the set..good stuff ladies..

Igor_Biscan
Aug 13th, 2010, 04:44 PM
Good stuff girls. Who do they play next?

saul1333
Aug 13th, 2010, 04:47 PM
^ Winner of Black/Rodionova and Dulko/Pennetta

Delfii
Aug 13th, 2010, 06:00 PM
:cheer: Great job again :bounce:
Vikkiri :hearts:

hurricanejeanne
Aug 13th, 2010, 06:05 PM
Back on track, Vika. :bounce: But there were 5 double faults. I wish we knew who hit them.

Vamos Vikiri! :cheer::cheer:

allrounder
Aug 13th, 2010, 06:13 PM
Pretty bad draw for Vika in Montreal :rolleyes:

R1 K. Bondarenko
R2 Cibulkova/Kiri
R3 Clijsters
QF JJ
SF Vera/Venus

Break My Rapture
Aug 13th, 2010, 06:22 PM
:o

Kim again. :weirdo:

Jane Lane
Aug 13th, 2010, 06:24 PM
Oy. Vamos Vika :cheer:

saul1333
Aug 13th, 2010, 06:27 PM
Looks kinda hard..hopefully another good tourney..

hurricanejeanne
Aug 13th, 2010, 06:30 PM
Pretty bad draw for Vika in Montreal :rolleyes:

R1 K. Bondarenko
R2 Cibulkova/Kiri
R3 Clijsters
QF JJ
SF Vera/Venus

What an awful draw. :sobbing:
Katya is a rough first round (again) even though she's getting over a terrible injury plagued season. Vika has beaten her every time they've played though, which is good. So hopefully she should win that one.

And I'm sick and tired of her getting Saint Kim the Hardcourt Queen. :weirdo:

Vika, please don't suck. :sobbing:

Delfii
Aug 13th, 2010, 06:32 PM
Ohh difficult draw to Vika :sad:
Anyways good luck girl :cheer: :bounce:

allrounder
Aug 13th, 2010, 06:37 PM
We'd better hope Saint Kim wins Cincy then so she'l be tired and in a tanking mood ahead of the USO by the time she could play Vika in Montreal :lol:

Delfii
Aug 13th, 2010, 06:40 PM
Lets hope that Kim wins Cincy and then she quits Montreal :lol:

Vikapower
Aug 13th, 2010, 07:27 PM
Vika said she wanted to do good in Montréal well that draw really doesn't help. Kim said that she wasn't going to play tournament after tournament like her first career time to show how trustworthy you are girl. :kiss: Good luck Vika. :cheer:

VIKA?
Aug 13th, 2010, 07:34 PM
oh dear:o what a mess...

of course Vika can't do well with those shitty draws:sobbing:

VIKA?
Aug 13th, 2010, 07:37 PM
just saw vikkiri won:hearts:

Break My Rapture
Aug 13th, 2010, 07:39 PM
Venus pulled out. Seeds will be moved around now right? Hopefully Kim gets another spot in the draw. :lol:

Jane Lane
Aug 13th, 2010, 07:45 PM
Venus pulled out. Seeds will be moved around now right? Hopefully Kim gets another spot in the draw. :lol:

:eek: where'd you hear this?
sorry for the pullout, hopefully vika gets a better draw.

allrounder
Aug 13th, 2010, 07:47 PM
I think they'l just give her spot to Bartoli as the highest ranked unseeded player :o I hope they move the seeds around though.

Delfii
Aug 13th, 2010, 08:02 PM
Yeah I red that on Twitter too :eek:
Venus out
Hopefully better draw for Vika :hug:

allrounder
Aug 13th, 2010, 09:50 PM
Someone said in the tournament forum that according to the rules if the seedings are changed Na Li will be moved into Kim's spot near Vika. Vika's never beaten Na before though so is that good? :lol:

Rafito.
Aug 13th, 2010, 09:52 PM
Well, Im much happier with Na Li than Clijsters so :cheer:

Igor_Biscan
Aug 13th, 2010, 09:53 PM
They've changed the draw apparently, and Na has taken Kim's place. Didn't think it was too bad a draw in the first place, Vika beat Clijsters fairly comfortably last time they met and she has a fairly predictable game. With Na you don't know whether it will be a barrage of winners or UEs.

Break My Rapture
Aug 13th, 2010, 10:09 PM
Vika can definitely beat Na. So I think Vika's draw just got a lot better. :D

Delfii
Aug 13th, 2010, 10:17 PM
Well not Kim good, even tired, she is a tough opponent, I think she has more chances with Na.
Good luck Vika :cheer:

Vikapower
Aug 13th, 2010, 10:36 PM
Lets not be too greedy Na is a way much more better player to manage than Kimmie. :p Vika has already beaten Kim but if these 2 could far from each other in every tournament life will be so sweet. We can count on Victoria to get Na I think she's has more motivation than ever to do great in Toronto. :cheer2:

hurricanejeanne
Aug 14th, 2010, 01:06 AM
:eek: at the draw change. While I'm more worried and more focused on the first round (one match at a time :p) Na is definitely a bit nicer than Saint Kim who lulls big hitters into make loads of errors.

Good luck, Vika! :cheer:

JadeFox
Aug 14th, 2010, 01:31 AM
While I'm more worried and more focused on the first round (one match at a time :p)

Good luck, Vika! :cheer:

That's my focus as well. One match at a time.

LUVMIRZA
Aug 14th, 2010, 01:37 AM
Vika can handle Na's game but Kim is dangerous for our hitting machine:lol: Best of luck Vika to win the title:cheer:

VIKA?
Aug 14th, 2010, 09:16 AM
it will sound weird but I prefered Kim:lol: you never know with Li:unsure:

Igor_Biscan
Aug 14th, 2010, 09:21 AM
it will sound weird but I prefered Kim:lol: you never know with Li:unsure:

I think I agree. Though I don't rate Kim as highly as most seem to do around here

kittyking
Aug 14th, 2010, 09:26 AM
Just remember this weeks tournament doesnt matter much, bring on flushing meadows!!!

allrounder
Aug 14th, 2010, 11:26 AM
Clijsters is the best US hardcourt player in the draw if you go by her achievements and definitely not the sort of player you want to be running into as early as R3 in any tournament. Vika may have won their last meeting but it was on grass where Kim is decent but not nearly as strong as she is in these US hardcourt events.

Nina.
Aug 14th, 2010, 01:52 PM
Of course Kim is great on the US hard courts but she's still inconsistent.
Na on the other hand is so unpredictable. You can never be sure what you get. On one day she sprays errors all over the place on the other day she's really good. Don't know which I'd prefer :lol:
I just hope Vika has a great run.

Vikapower
Aug 14th, 2010, 07:03 PM
^ I think you're overrating Na a bit too much. :lol: Clijsters is inconsistent right now but we all know that her rustyness would be long time gone after Cincinnati and especially as a top player. She'd with no doubt get her game clicking again by the time she plays Vika. Kim always looks rusty at first but she doesn't take long to get her A game back.

I also think also Na is very very prone to loosing in the first couple rounds to anybody so maybe Vika might not even need to face her just sayin'. :angel:

P.S. Vika is a player that has that sort of bizarre aura that makes certain players game click especially the Williamses... I observe that they're very receptive to it... They play as bad as they can until when they meet Victoria and suddenly FH, BH, serve and movement are clicking again. :lol: Don't take risks with Kimmie she also has very good antennas.

allrounder
Aug 15th, 2010, 10:07 AM
Vikkiri into the final after thrashing the new no.1 team Dulko/Pennetta 6-2 6-1 :eek::drool:

Break My Rapture
Aug 15th, 2010, 11:27 AM
Ohmygod. :sobbing: They're on a tear! Well done.

VIKA?
Aug 15th, 2010, 01:37 PM
Vikkiri into the final after thrashing the new no.1 team Dulko/Pennetta 6-2 6-1 :eek::drool:

just wow:inlove:

I hope they win the title tommorrow:sobbing:

JamieOwen3
Aug 15th, 2010, 01:55 PM
kiri will be back with aga soon? she should stay with vika!

VIKA?
Aug 15th, 2010, 02:04 PM
kiri will be back with aga soon? she should stay with vika!

I know right:tears:

Igor_Biscan
Aug 15th, 2010, 02:21 PM
Hopefully this tournament will convince her to play with Vika. They've been on fire so far

VIKA?
Aug 15th, 2010, 04:38 PM
Vika not playing doubles in Montreal. Maybe she wants to focus in singles here?

allrounder
Aug 15th, 2010, 05:33 PM
I doubt we'l see Vika playing doubles every week while she's bordering on the top 10 in singles, no player near the top seems to commit to both week in week out :sad: it means playing twice a day just about everyday if you go deep in both which is a bit demanding on your body.

JamieOwen3
Aug 15th, 2010, 06:17 PM
I doubt we'l see Vika playing doubles every week while she's bordering on the top 10 in singles, no player near the top seems to commit to both week in week out :sad: it means playing twice a day just about everyday if you go deep in both which is a bit demanding on your body.

i don't think any other player has since martina hingis have they?

allrounder
Aug 15th, 2010, 06:45 PM
Vikkiri win 7-6 7-6 :woohoo: doubles title no.4 for Vika :worship: Well done to them both :)

VIKA?
Aug 15th, 2010, 06:46 PM
fuck yes:woohoo::hearts: so happy right know:D

Daruma.
Aug 15th, 2010, 06:46 PM
:cheer: Well done Vikkiri! :hearts:

saul1333
Aug 15th, 2010, 06:51 PM
Nice :cheer: Can't wait to watch it on tv..

Back to back trophies for Vika :inlove:

VIKA?
Aug 15th, 2010, 06:52 PM
Nice :cheer: Can't wait to watch it on tv..

Back to back trophies for Vika :inlove:

ohmy record it or something:tears:

saul1333
Aug 15th, 2010, 06:55 PM
I don't know how to transfer from tv to computer :sobbing: and I'm sure someone will upload it. But if nobody does I will find out how :)

VIKA?
Aug 15th, 2010, 06:57 PM
Thanks!:)

Delfii
Aug 15th, 2010, 07:03 PM
:cheer:
Nice match :D
Kiri is a doubles goat :lol:

hurricanejeanne
Aug 15th, 2010, 07:11 PM
Yay! So happy her and Makiri won the doubles, hopefully Vika was able to work out some kinks in her game that caused her first round singles loss this week too. :cheer::cheer:

Delfii
Aug 15th, 2010, 07:15 PM
Just saw on Twitter that Vika will play doubles with Safina in the US Open :eek:

hurricanejeanne
Aug 15th, 2010, 07:22 PM
Just saw on Twitter that Vika will play doubles with Safina in the US Open :eek:

:eek::eek: I guess that means that Makiri is already agreed to play with someone else, probably Aga.

And I was just told in the doubles forum that Vika still hit like 5 double faults. Meh. :sobbing: She needs to find her rhythm again.

allrounder
Aug 15th, 2010, 07:24 PM
Nah it was Kiri who hit the majority of the DF's today - like 5 of them, Will was wrong :p Vika wasn't broken once whilst Kiri was twice.

VIKA?
Aug 15th, 2010, 07:26 PM
Just saw on Twitter that Vika will play doubles with Safina in the US Open :eek:

this must be a joke:o

VIKA?
Aug 15th, 2010, 07:27 PM
Nah it was Kiri who hit the majority of the DF's today - like 5 of them, Will was wrong :p Vika wasn't broken once whilst Kiri was twice.

oh really?:awww: I thought it was Vika:rolls:

Andreas
Aug 15th, 2010, 07:27 PM
Kirilenko, Chakvetadze, Kuznetsova, Zvonareva, Safina... Who's next? Sharapova or Dementieva? :lol:

hurricanejeanne
Aug 15th, 2010, 07:28 PM
Nah it was Kiri who hit the majority of the DF's today - like 5 of them, Will was wrong :p Vika wasn't broken once whilst Kiri was twice.

Really? Awesome! I wish there was a way we could figure out who hit the doublefaults on the scoreboards though so it wouldn't be so confusing. :p

I feel much better now. :D

Break My Rapture
Aug 15th, 2010, 08:57 PM
Yay, well done girls. :bigclap:

Break My Rapture
Aug 16th, 2010, 09:16 PM
Vika will take part in that Nike Primetime Knockout Event on August 25th too. :D And there will be a live stream. :hearts:

VIKA?
Aug 16th, 2010, 09:18 PM
Is that the one she played last year?

Break My Rapture
Aug 16th, 2010, 09:27 PM
Nah, this one is at night, it's some doubles event or something. :lol: It has a Facebook page.

VIKA?
Aug 16th, 2010, 09:29 PM
oh ok:lol:

Derek.
Aug 16th, 2010, 10:05 PM
Glad Vika was able to have a good week in doubles. :yeah:

VIKA?
Aug 16th, 2010, 11:04 PM
Vika first up on banque nationale court. No stream I guess:( good luck Vika!

Break My Rapture
Aug 16th, 2010, 11:07 PM
WTF? :weirdo: Who is playing on CC? :o

VIKA?
Aug 16th, 2010, 11:14 PM
WTF? :weirdo: Who is playing on CC? :o

http://www.rogerscup.com/women/pdf/OP_aug_17_10.pdf

:tears:

Break My Rapture
Aug 16th, 2010, 11:17 PM
:o

Good luck Vika. :hearts:

saul1333
Aug 16th, 2010, 11:34 PM
Good luck Vika :)

Nice avy Pieter..Cool hWhip :haha:

Break My Rapture
Aug 16th, 2010, 11:57 PM
Good luck Vika :)

Nice avy Pieter..Cool hWhip :haha:
:sobbing:

Thanks, I didn't make it though. :lol:

saul1333
Aug 17th, 2010, 02:55 PM
:sobbing:

Thanks, I didn't make it though. :lol:

Lol..so you dont know what it's about? :sad:

Break My Rapture
Aug 17th, 2010, 04:18 PM
Lol..so you dont know what it's about? :sad:
What do you mean? :lol:

61 61 over Bondarenko, nice win Vika. :hearts:

saul1333
Aug 17th, 2010, 04:20 PM
What do you mean? :lol:

61 61 over Bondarenko, nice win Vika. :hearts:

cool hwhip? :p

Great stuff Vika :bounce:

Break My Rapture
Aug 17th, 2010, 04:21 PM
cool hwhip? :p

Great stuff Vika :bounce:
What's that? :spit:

JadeFox
Aug 17th, 2010, 04:22 PM
Looks like a beatdown judging by livescores. Keep it going Vika!

saul1333
Aug 17th, 2010, 04:22 PM
What's that? :spit:


Haha..its the way Stewie pronounces Cool Whip in that scene to piss Brian off :p

_9u-yx53YRI

Igor_Biscan
Aug 17th, 2010, 04:25 PM
Why are you putting so much emphasis on the H??

And well done Vika, nice comfortable start to the tournament. I guess she hadn't had much practise time beforehand

Break My Rapture
Aug 17th, 2010, 04:26 PM
Haha..its the way Stewie pronounces Cool Whip in that scene to piss Brian off :p
Oh yeah I remember that. :hysteric:

VIKA?
Aug 17th, 2010, 04:31 PM
Nice to see her crushing her opponents:) also, it seems she improved those mistakes she did against Ana, especially her serve.

hurricanejeanne
Aug 17th, 2010, 05:58 PM
Beat down! :hearts: I adore Katya but I love Vika more. :hearts:

Judging by the stats, she had a much better day today than last week. 1 Ace, 2 doublefaults, got 76% of her first serves in and won 72% of that so that's a definite improvement! :D

Keep it up, Vika! :cheer::bounce::inlove:

VIKA?
Aug 17th, 2010, 10:50 PM
http://www.rogerscup.com/women/pdf/OP_aug_18_10.pdf

what a joke:weirdo:

Break My Rapture
Aug 17th, 2010, 10:52 PM
What the fuck? :fiery: What is up with that? Vikkiri is a potentially better match-up than all of the matches planned on CC. :o

Good luck Vika. :hearts:

saul1333
Aug 17th, 2010, 10:54 PM
LOL..yeah should have been on court central :lol:

Go Vika :)

TheBoiledEgg
Aug 18th, 2010, 01:15 AM
really mad this isnt on CC
which idiot did the schedule.......Radwanski ??

this is easily the best match of tomorrow.

hurricanejeanne
Aug 18th, 2010, 01:24 AM
It's always awkward playing your doubles partner in singles and it doesn't help that Vika's never beaten Makiri, though it's been 3 years since they played last and their two past matches have gone three sets.

:scared:
Good luck Vika!

Derek.
Aug 18th, 2010, 05:54 AM
Good win, Vika! :D

Good luck in the next round! :)

hellas719
Aug 18th, 2010, 05:27 PM
Vika :yeah::yeah::yeah:

allrounder
Aug 18th, 2010, 07:51 PM
Nice win over Kiri 6-4 6-1. it seemed to kind of go the same way the the Oudin match in Stanford where it was a lot closer than the score suggested and a near identical scoreline :lol:

If her R3 with Li Na isn't televised i'l be really pissed :fiery:

Andreas
Aug 18th, 2010, 07:51 PM
Azarenka def. Kirilenko 64 61 :yeah:

She wasn't broken a single time during the match :D I like Maria but it's nice to see Vika getting some comfortable wins here. Na Li awaits in the 3rd round if I'm not mistaken. That's going to be tough!

VIKA?
Aug 18th, 2010, 07:52 PM
Glad she didn't choke this time:lol: well done Vika:dance: such a shame it was against Maria though:tears:

VIKA?
Aug 18th, 2010, 07:52 PM
Nice win over Kiri 6-4 6-1. it seemed to kind of go the same way the the Oudin match in Stanford where it was a lot closer than the score suggested and a near identical scoreline :lol:

If her R3 with Li Na isn't televised i'l be really pissed :fiery:

I know right:o

Break My Rapture
Aug 18th, 2010, 07:56 PM
Yay, well done. :yeah:

Na will be a tough one. THEY BETTER PUT IT ON CC I SWEAR TO GOD!!! :fiery:

hurricanejeanne
Aug 18th, 2010, 08:00 PM
She didn't drop serve! :woohoo:

Very nice, solid win for Vika especially over a player who always fights and makes you hit one more ball. Judging my the score in the second set she must have been much more aggressive.

Na will definitely be more difficult, again Vika's never beaten her in the two times they played but both times went three sets (2008 Gold Coast and 2009 Tokyo).
Goodluck, Vika! :cheer:

hellas719
Aug 18th, 2010, 08:01 PM
Vika :cool:

allrounder
Aug 18th, 2010, 08:03 PM
Vika played probably her worst match of last year against Li Na in Tokyo - I remember her making over 60 UE's and only around 20 winners in the match and choking a 5-1 lead to lose the first set before eventually losing 7-6 in the third :help:

saul1333
Aug 18th, 2010, 08:09 PM
Yes..that was a horrid and heartbreaking match :eek:

Should get CC though :)

VIKA?
Aug 18th, 2010, 08:17 PM
Vika played probably her worst match of last year against Li Na in Tokyo - I remember her making over 60 UE's and only around 20 winners in the match and choking a 5-1 lead to lose the first set before eventually losing 7-6 in the third :help:

don't remind me that:hysteric:

actually I was used to those chokes cuz last year she did tons of chokes:help:

VIKA?
Aug 18th, 2010, 08:47 PM
Was at the match, and the hitting was amazing. Very high level, hard-hitting, grunty rallies. Very enjoyable, Vika was struggling a bit more in the first, second was closer than the score.


:)

Delfii
Aug 18th, 2010, 09:40 PM
Oh nice Vika :dance:
Na is next :unsure:
But Vika is playing really good :drool:
Good luck next round :)

Igor_Biscan
Aug 18th, 2010, 10:08 PM
When Kirilenko is in form she's a tough opponent and doesnt give anything away so to see Vika finish with that sort of scoreline means she must have played the big points well.

Last year's match against Na was a shocker, she was kind of pushing, letting Na dictate the match but still making lots of errors. I think Vika's playing a lot better now but it will still be a tough match.

Break My Rapture
Aug 18th, 2010, 10:53 PM
Vika is first up on CC tomorrow. :D http://www.rogerscup.com/women/pdf/OP_aug_19_10.pdf

Good luck Vika. :hearts:

VIKA?
Aug 18th, 2010, 10:56 PM
yay

Derek.
Aug 18th, 2010, 11:11 PM
Good win, Vika! :D

saul1333
Aug 18th, 2010, 11:17 PM
Of course on CC :angel:

Win Vika!!

Vikapower
Aug 18th, 2010, 11:24 PM
Nice win Vika :cheer: now Na for revenge of last year. It'll be a tight match. Vika is playing good and I hope to not bite my lips but advantage Vika vs. Na in tight situations when everthing is in place. Na showed in Wimbledon & Copenhagen that she can lose it anytime, solidity. :scared:

Delfii
Aug 18th, 2010, 11:39 PM
CC :D
Finally the organisation put Vika on CC :dance:
Good luck :)

bluestorm10
Aug 19th, 2010, 03:06 AM
Hi guys! Sorry for the radio silence. Since the Cincy tournament last week my computer's died on me so I haven't had any access (and now I'm simply borrowing my sister's).

Anyway, I decided really late to attend the Montreal tournament! I went for a day and a half only since my schedule only permitted that much time off. I went on Tuesday and earlier today.

It was absolutely the best day and a half ever. I got to see Vika play against Kirilenko and against Bondarenko and it was awesome to see her in person. Also got to watch her practice upclose. :bounce: Seriously, when I booked my tickets and made the travel arrangements, I never thought I'd pick the perfect days to go and visit.

Most of you who've seen her live know this already but since it was my first time, I was amazed at how amazing her game really is in person and how much her talent shines through. I had to keep myself from exclaiming my awe a bunch of times. :lol:

I don't know how it is in other places but it's pretty frustrating to watch live matches as a Vika fan simply because the crowd is pretty against her. Not all out rude necessarily but just really cheering for her opponent. Also, of course they mocked her noises. :mad: Anyway, my sister and I seemed like the lone Vika supporters there and we made sure to make up for it by cheering for her at all possible times. Not sure if her matches were televised but if they were and you heard the "Go Vika's" and the "YEAAAAH's" when she won points, chances are you heard me and my sister. :lol:

Some funny stuff.

First, in the Kirilenko match, the ump overturned an out call on a Vika shot. Kirilenko had a racket on it but couldn't (or didn't) return it. The ump called a replay point and Vika went up to him and was arguing about how Kirilenko had reached the ball so it should be Vika's point already. It wasn't one of her famous tantrums but the fact that I was seated like three rows right behind the umpire, I could see and hear everything. :hearts: I was tempted to add my agreement to her argument right there. :p Although it was pretty bad because she was so serious there and adamant and I couldn't stop smiling because I loved it so much.

Second, I saw on the sign that Vika had a practice at a particular time before her match on Court 7. So I was standing there watching some other person finish her practice and staking my claim for the best spot to watch Vika practice next. My mind was wandering quite a bit and then my sister who was on her way out of the practice area to get some food called out my name panicked. I turned to look at her and she looked kinda shocked and kept pointing behind me. Okay, and I'm somewhat slow in getting things and also in moving so I turned around slowly and Sam Sumyk is walking right past me and a few paces ahead of him is Vika. She literally walked a few inches behind me and I didn't even notice it until it was too late. And all I was doing while I could have actually said something to her was zoning out and folding the OOP I had with me. :bigcry:

I have tons of pictures. For the whole event we took 800+ even if it was just with one of those simple cameras. Thank God for my really super nice sister who let me watch and observe everything while she snapped away for MY memories later on. :D I'll try to look for the best ones and post them up this week.

Igor_Biscan
Aug 19th, 2010, 05:30 AM
Wow, it sounds like you had a great time! Thanks for the report, we didnt get any tv coverage. From the live scores it seemed like the first match was pretty straightforward but the second one a bit tougher than the score suggested? Was Vika playing well?

JamieOwen3
Aug 19th, 2010, 06:02 AM
the making fun of her noises just :yawn: tennis crowd don't seem to appreciate a player until they are gone, or are back from a long layoff (maria sharapova) maria got so much more crowd support after coming back from her shoulder injury last year.
Vika will win against Na i think,has she defeated her b4? if not well there's a first time for everything!!

JamieOwen3
Aug 19th, 2010, 06:06 AM
btw bluestorm10 cool that u had a wkd time, glad to hear u have pictures & :eek: at your brush with Vika :lol:

kittyking
Aug 19th, 2010, 06:21 AM
Yay Vika :rocker2:

VIKA?
Aug 19th, 2010, 01:10 PM
Hi guys! Sorry for the radio silence. Since the Cincy tournament last week my computer's died on me so I haven't had any access (and now I'm simply borrowing my sister's).

Anyway, I decided really late to attend the Montreal tournament! I went for a day and a half only since my schedule only permitted that much time off. I went on Tuesday and earlier today.

It was absolutely the best day and a half ever. I got to see Vika play against Kirilenko and against Bondarenko and it was awesome to see her in person. Also got to watch her practice upclose. :bounce: Seriously, when I booked my tickets and made the travel arrangements, I never thought I'd pick the perfect days to go and visit.

Most of you who've seen her live know this already but since it was my first time, I was amazed at how amazing her game really is in person and how much her talent shines through. I had to keep myself from exclaiming my awe a bunch of times. :lol:

I don't know how it is in other places but it's pretty frustrating to watch live matches as a Vika fan simply because the crowd is pretty against her. Not all out rude necessarily but just really cheering for her opponent. Also, of course they mocked her noises. :mad: Anyway, my sister and I seemed like the lone Vika supporters there and we made sure to make up for it by cheering for her at all possible times. Not sure if her matches were televised but if they were and you heard the "Go Vika's" and the "YEAAAAH's" when she won points, chances are you heard me and my sister. :lol:

Some funny stuff.

First, in the Kirilenko match, the ump overturned an out call on a Vika shot. Kirilenko had a racket on it but couldn't (or didn't) return it. The ump called a replay point and Vika went up to him and was arguing about how Kirilenko had reached the ball so it should be Vika's point already. It wasn't one of her famous tantrums but the fact that I was seated like three rows right behind the umpire, I could see and hear everything. :hearts: I was tempted to add my agreement to her argument right there. :p Although it was pretty bad because she was so serious there and adamant and I couldn't stop smiling because I loved it so much.

Second, I saw on the sign that Vika had a practice at a particular time before her match on Court 7. So I was standing there watching some other person finish her practice and staking my claim for the best spot to watch Vika practice next. My mind was wandering quite a bit and then my sister who was on her way out of the practice area to get some food called out my name panicked. I turned to look at her and she looked kinda shocked and kept pointing behind me. Okay, and I'm somewhat slow in getting things and also in moving so I turned around slowly and Sam Sumyk is walking right past me and a few paces ahead of him is Vika. She literally walked a few inches behind me and I didn't even notice it until it was too late. And all I was doing while I could have actually said something to her was zoning out and folding the OOP I had with me. :bigcry:

I have tons of pictures. For the whole event we took 800+ even if it was just with one of those simple cameras. Thank God for my really super nice sister who let me watch and observe everything while she snapped away for MY memories later on. :D I'll try to look for the best ones and post them up this week.


nice to see you had so much fun:yeah: also thanks for the report:p

bluestorm10
Aug 19th, 2010, 02:35 PM
Wow, it sounds like you had a great time! Thanks for the report, we didnt get any tv coverage. From the live scores it seemed like the first match was pretty straightforward but the second one a bit tougher than the score suggested? Was Vika playing well?

So the observations I have are only of the Bondarenko match and the 1st set of the Kirilenko match since I had to leave in the middle to catch a train. :)

But to answer your question, yes although to be honest I didn't think it had much to do with how Vika was playing. It seemed like she maintained a similar level of play in both matches. Her serve was not particularly good not in the sense that she hit a ton of DFs but it was pretty easy for me to read where her serve was going to go and even the pace of it. Meanwhile her groundstrokes and net play were pretty outstanding even if in the Bondarenko match she made some really funny errors at the net simply by rushing too much.

In other words, I felt she was equally solid in both matches and, even if I'm biased, I thought she played really well in both as well. The main difference was the level of opponent really. Bondarenko was completely out of it from the beginning and was not giving Vika much of anything to work with. Hence, Vika played well but it was not too spectacular or a particularly gritty win. In fact, Bondarenko was really struggling with any sort of rhythm even in the beginning of the second set when she started to get it going a bit. Then Vika upped her game a bit and showed her fighting determination. Once she showed even a bit of that, Bondarenko sorta folded and began making errors or hitting really poor shots which Vika was able to put away for a winner.

Meanwhile, the first set of the Kirilenko match was hard-hitting, filled with a ton of pace and consistency from the Kirilenko side. Vika started off slower than in the Bondarenko match but I really think it's because Maria was really smashing the ball well and was catching Vika a lot of times in bad positions where she'd be stretching on both sides to reach the ball. It was when this happened that her serve became quite an issue because she was having problems hitting cleanly with her groundstrokes due to Maria's skill and then she couldn't count on any cheap points from her serve. Thus, she went down a break early. Once that happened though, I felt that her grit and determination allowed her to up her game once more and it was seen through better movement and anticipation resulting in better groundstrokes even if Maria was still hitting the ball really well. No doubt it was a battle til she finally won the set after some time and some hiccups.

It wasn't so much that a shot of Vika's was better in the first match than in the second or some other technical issue. It was just that the level of play her opponent was showing was so vastly different. I was happier with her play in the second match to be honest since in the first it was pretty obviously straightforward.

Just my observations of course. Sorry for the length. :p

TheBoiledEgg
Aug 19th, 2010, 04:41 PM
Vika :bounce: :D 6-3 6-3 win over Na Li :yeah: :D

got Bartoli again
go beat her again Vika ;) :D

JamieOwen3
Aug 19th, 2010, 04:45 PM
i did vote vika in 2 in the poll on GM,i just felt it was her time to win against her. :yeah:

VIKA?
Aug 19th, 2010, 04:46 PM
such a good win:bounce:

she was defendin very well today, glad she won in two and didn't choke:lol::yeah: good luck against Marion now:D

allrounder
Aug 19th, 2010, 04:47 PM
A decent performance by Vika without being spectacular but she got her gameplan right of hitting deep and central to Li Na which is the best tactic to use against a big hitter not giving her much angle or short balls to eat up :)

Bartoli will be a lot tougher i suspect and will come out all guns blazing like she did in Stanford so Vika will have to be on her game from the word go there.

Vikapower
Aug 19th, 2010, 04:52 PM
Good solid win for Victoria against a seemingly what could be a though opponent but she really was just too solid for Li Na today now Bartoli whom she has a perfect H2H record - I hope she makes Marion heavily pay for her stupid comments and show her how owned and how owned she will always be. :cheer:

saul1333
Aug 19th, 2010, 04:55 PM
Nice 2 set win :hearts:

Those df scared me a little..smoke Marion please :)

Igor_Biscan
Aug 19th, 2010, 04:59 PM
Massive thanks for that report bluestorm :) I agree with you that its kind of more impressive for Vika to win those tight matches when her opponent is playing well than to thrash someone who's not really up to Vikas level (although that's good too).

Vika did ok today, she never really got into a good rhythm but executed her game plan well. Her forehand was very solid.

Bartoli will be another tough match. She was the only one who gave Vika any sort of problems at stanford, also she's barely broken sweat here thanks to easy draws and a w/o. I expect another tight game

Break My Rapture
Aug 19th, 2010, 04:59 PM
What a good win. :hearts: Well done!
Too bad I missed the match. :o

JadeFox
Aug 19th, 2010, 06:11 PM
Praise *insert your diety here* she won!

Now go and beat Bartoli again! :devil:

hurricanejeanne
Aug 19th, 2010, 06:19 PM
Vika! :woohoo: :woohoo: Very solid win today though she did serve 5 doublefaults :o

Marion will be a lot tougher as she's been playing well this summer. Vika is going to have to be on her game with a solid plan of attack when the match starts so she doesn't find herself in a mess like she did in Stanford, Vika has to stay on the offensive and stay aggressive.

Good luck, Vika! :cheer::scared:

hellas719
Aug 20th, 2010, 02:27 AM
Vika :banana:

Break My Rapture
Aug 20th, 2010, 11:18 AM
Last up on CC.

Good luck Vika. :hearts:

allrounder
Aug 20th, 2010, 01:05 PM
If Vika wins tonight she'l secure a top 12 seeding for the USO. If she loses she'l need to hope either Bartoli gets no further than the SF's or Sveta doesn't win her QF.

It's going to be a late night for us in Europe wanting to watch :sad: I really hope there's no rain delays and the Caro/Fran match ends in 2 sets.

VIKA?
Aug 20th, 2010, 01:15 PM
If Vika wins tonight she'l secure a top 12 seeding for the USO. If she loses she'l need to hope either Bartoli gets no further than the SF's or Sveta doesn't win her QF.

It's going to be a late night for us in Europe wanting to watch :sad: I really hope there's no rain delays and the Caro/Fran match ends in 2 sets.

I know:sobbing: not sure if I'm going to be up:lol: also not sure if there will be a stream for it:scared:

VIKA?
Aug 20th, 2010, 01:16 PM
it seems they're not going to show Caro but they will show Vika's match:D

allrounder
Aug 20th, 2010, 01:21 PM
Finally they get something right then :lol: Haven't they been streaming all stadium court matches so far this week?

VIKA?
Aug 20th, 2010, 01:24 PM
Finally they get something right then :lol: Haven't they been streaming all stadium court matches so far this week?

yes, except the last match:p

Derek.
Aug 20th, 2010, 04:25 PM
Super win, Vika. :D

Good luck in the next round! :)

Break My Rapture
Aug 20th, 2010, 04:39 PM
So ES is showing Vika's match? :D

Break My Rapture
Aug 20th, 2010, 08:04 PM
Serena withdraws from the US Open.

If Vika manages to avoid Clijsters in the draw, I think she has a good chance to get past the QF for the first time in a slam. :hearts:

allrounder
Aug 20th, 2010, 08:51 PM
Serena withdraws from the US Open.

If Vika manages to avoid Clijsters in the draw, I think she has a good chance to get past the QF for the first time in a slam. :hearts:

That has at least guaranteed Vika's top 12 seeding then which was vital so she avoids the likes of Venus and Kim until at least the QF's :)

bluestorm10
Aug 20th, 2010, 08:52 PM
Serena withdraws from the US Open.

If Vika manages to avoid Clijsters in the draw, I think she has a good chance to get past the QF for the first time in a slam. :hearts:

I thought of that too. Now wouldn't that be amazing? :bounce:

saul1333
Aug 20th, 2010, 08:54 PM
Hopefully..but I fear something dumb happens :unsure:

Break My Rapture
Aug 20th, 2010, 09:00 PM
That has at least guaranteed Vika's top 12 seeding then which was vital so she avoids the likes of Venus and Kim until at least the QF's :)
Kim seemed to be hampered by her upper leg as well. :unsure: But yeah, avoiding those 2 is good news.
I thought of that too. Now wouldn't that be amazing? :bounce:
Yes it would. :hearts:
Hopefully..but I fear something dumb happens :unsure:
:scared:

Vikapower
Aug 20th, 2010, 09:07 PM
Could someone inform me on that the seeds are taken from the rankings after Montréal or not ? If Vika wins the tournament for example she would be seeded in the 10, no ?

bluestorm10
Aug 20th, 2010, 09:09 PM
Could someone inform me on that the seeds are taken from the rankings after Montréal or not ? If Vika wins the tournament for example she would be seeded in the 10, no ?

Yes, I believe it's the rankings after Montreal. Not sure about where Vika will be ranked dependent on how far she gets here.

allrounder
Aug 20th, 2010, 09:13 PM
Yes the seedings for the USO are taken on next mondays rankings after everyones Montreal points are added on. Vika will need to win Montreal to be in the top 8 seeds otherwise she's in the 9-12 section. She needs to reach the final to re-enter the top 10.

Vikapower
Aug 20th, 2010, 09:15 PM
Thanks to both I was afraid they used her actual rankings... Vika always falls in Serena's part of the draw for once I beg this to continue as Caroline is #1 seed replacing Serena... the USO is so wide open right now I'm just really very impatient but one step at a time... Bartoli first Zvonareva next then I can really start dreaming.

bluestorm10
Aug 20th, 2010, 09:22 PM
Yes the seedings for the USO are taken on next mondays rankings after everyones Montreal points are added on. Vika will need to win Montreal to be in the top 8 seeds otherwise she's in the 9-12 section. She needs to reach the final to re-enter the top 10.

Thanks very much! :worship: Interesting stuff.

Delfii
Aug 20th, 2010, 09:54 PM
:hearts: Vika will make SF or more :D :bounce:
Let's hope that will happen :)
Bring the good energy :lol:
Good luck vs Marion :)
Now that Kim is out, she has really good chances in Montreal :)

allrounder
Aug 20th, 2010, 10:25 PM
Is Vika's match no longer being shown? it was on livescorehunter's schedule earlier but now has disappeared and been replaced by Caro's match with Fran :rolleyes: :o

Break My Rapture
Aug 20th, 2010, 10:27 PM
Gotta be kidding right? :o :o :o

Delfii
Aug 20th, 2010, 10:29 PM
I just saw the same :o They're showing Caro :help:
Its unfair :hysteric:

Vikapower
Aug 20th, 2010, 10:31 PM
Seriously ? :o I'm waiting for that match so much... :help: Fromsport too only has Caro/Fran.

Break My Rapture
Aug 20th, 2010, 10:32 PM
Great, Vika's coverage gets stolen by Wozniacki yet again. :rolleyes: I hate when this happens.

saul1333
Aug 20th, 2010, 10:35 PM
That is such BS :o they are even showing Caro's match on ESPN..

TheBoiledEgg
Aug 20th, 2010, 10:37 PM
again no Vika on stream :fiery:
she better win and make SF

c'mon Vika :hug:

Delfii
Aug 20th, 2010, 10:37 PM
Its like stealing a lollipop from a little girl :hysteric:
Im annoyed :o

Vikapower
Aug 20th, 2010, 10:40 PM
Oh gosh Caroline just stealing everything today from everyone. :fiery: I hate watching the freacking livescore. :hysteric:

hurricanejeanne
Aug 20th, 2010, 11:02 PM
No Vika coverage again? :sobbing:

VIKA?
Aug 20th, 2010, 11:17 PM
what a joke:o

bluestorm10
Aug 20th, 2010, 11:51 PM
Last night here in Canada they showed both the first and second night matches on TV. If you guys can't access it and they (Hopefully) show it here, I'll try to tell you guys how it's going. :)

hurricanejeanne
Aug 21st, 2010, 02:34 AM
Victoria will be the death of me. :sobbing::sobbing: I still love you girl. :sobbing:

VIKA?
Aug 21st, 2010, 02:34 AM
That's our girl:sobbing:

bluestorm10
Aug 21st, 2010, 02:39 AM
So many heart attacks in one match. :lol:

Lol,hurricanejeanne, I say that all the time as well. :p

Still a semi and another great week here at Montreal! :hearts:

Delfii
Aug 21st, 2010, 02:42 AM
Bepa now after today anything can happen :D
Vika-leive :lol:

TheBoiledEgg
Aug 21st, 2010, 02:43 AM
Vika one win away from top 10
needs to win title to grab top 8 seed

i've updated ranks
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=17302760&postcount=2

TheBoiledEgg
Aug 21st, 2010, 02:44 AM
Vika night match again
ES Player better work then :armed: couldnt find a stream that worked

Vikapower
Aug 21st, 2010, 02:45 AM
Very close match but Vika really keeps making me scared when she wins the first set easily... Now she plays her ex-pet peeve Vera but has beaten her the 2 last times they played with a demonstration in Dubaï... Vera is more confident right now but this really is going to be a very close match... I always thought Vika should have done better on decoturf I can't believe she's rising up to my expectations... just one match away from her second big title of the year. :cheer:

Delfii
Aug 21st, 2010, 02:46 AM
Nooo Vika tomorrow at 23 here
I wanted 16 turn
Ill awake anyways

LUVMIRZA
Aug 21st, 2010, 02:50 AM
Vika one win away from top 10
needs to win title to grab top 8 seed

i've updated ranks
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=17302760&postcount=2

Hope she can get that seeding & a good draw at the USOpen:)....Vika has her best chances this time:angel:

JadeFox
Aug 21st, 2010, 02:52 AM
Victoria will be the death of me. :sobbing::sobbing: I still love you girl. :sobbing:

Seriously. I'm way too young for all of these heart attacks man! :hysteric:

Jane Lane
Aug 21st, 2010, 03:38 AM
Can't believe I missed the match! :sad:
Yet again I have to suffer tommorow with the match of two of my favs.

Good luck Vika, I love Vera too but I want to see Vika get back to top 10 and such :)

Igor_Biscan
Aug 21st, 2010, 09:17 AM
Really excited for tonight's match. Last time they met Vika played some breathtaking tennis, the first set in particular Vera didn't do anything wrong but got completely overwhelmed by Vika's shotmaking. Hoping for more of the same :)

Break My Rapture
Aug 21st, 2010, 11:06 AM
Nice win of Bartoli. :hearts: How did it go (if you guys were able to watch.. :lol:)?

Igor_Biscan
Aug 21st, 2010, 11:11 AM
Nice win of Bartoli. :hearts: How did it go (if you guys were able to watch.. :lol:)?

read the livescores thread :p There was no stream but it was televised in canada so we had bluestorm liveblogging commentary from there.

Sounds like a high quality match, serve the only real problem as usual

VIKA?
Aug 21st, 2010, 11:52 AM
someone said in GM he/she will upload the match:D

Break My Rapture
Aug 21st, 2010, 11:53 AM
Okay thanks!

miffedmax
Aug 21st, 2010, 02:39 PM
Seriously. I'm way too young for all of these heart attacks man! :hysteric:

This is nothing. Vika's a rock compared to Lena.

I really should spend some time here instead of just backing her in GM.

hurricanejeanne
Aug 21st, 2010, 07:33 PM
This is nothing. Vika's a rock compared to Lena.

I really should spend some time here instead of just backing her in GM.

I love your Vika-posts in GM! And I think we all would love it if you'd post in here too! :D

I have no idea how any of you hardcore Lena-Fans are still alive, I would have had a heart attack years ago.

Daruma.
Aug 21st, 2010, 07:40 PM
Vera will be really tough to beat. Good luck Victoria! :cheer:

Break My Rapture
Aug 21st, 2010, 07:42 PM
Good luck Vika. :hearts:

hurricanejeanne
Aug 21st, 2010, 11:24 PM
I hope Vika's able to play at a decent time (like after Caro/Sveta) since it's been raining all day in Montreal.

Break My Rapture
Aug 21st, 2010, 11:26 PM
Is it still raining? :o

VIKA?
Aug 21st, 2010, 11:46 PM
they moved Vika's match to court banque nationale:o