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tenn_ace
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:14 PM
Venus, Serena, Dementieva, Sveta
Safina, Vika, Wozniacki and Jankovic

frenchie
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:15 PM
Please Venus and Serena in opposite groups!

youizahoe
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:19 PM
Group 1:

1. Dinara Safina
3. Svetlana Kuznetsova
5. Elena Dementieva
7. Venus Williams

Group 2

2. Serena Williams
4. Caroline Wozniacki
6. Viktoria Azarenka
8. Jelena Jankovic

-- I think :)

Mynarco
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:20 PM
Please, just don't put Serena and Venus in the same group.

VishaalMaria
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:21 PM
I don't know what the groups mean or how this works, do players play each player in their group?

If so, Vee V Svetlana :D :D :D :D :D :D

MBM
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:22 PM
Group 1:

1. Dinara Safina
3. Svetlana Kuznetsova
5. Elena Dementieva
7. Venus Williams

Group 2

2. Serena Williams
4. Caroline Wozniacki
6. Viktoria Azarenka
8. Jelena Jankovic

-- I think :)

you think..??

tenn_ace
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:22 PM
Group 1:

1. Dinara Safina
3. Svetlana Kuznetsova
5. Elena Dementieva
7. Venus Williams

Group 2

2. Serena Williams
4. Caroline Wozniacki
6. Viktoria Azarenka
8. Jelena Jankovic

-- I think :)


that would be too straightforward :lol:

MBM
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:22 PM
venus tweeted with : "we just finished the draw ceremony. i dressed unreasonably 80's, Serena was ridiculously 80's. hair to the side, pink lips, whole 9 yards" over an hour ago

frenchie
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:23 PM
venus tweeted with : "we just finished the draw ceremony. i dressed unreasonably 80's, Serena was ridiculously 80's. hair to the side, pink lips, whole 9 yards" over an hour ago


lol she's talking about their dress but not about the groups:lol:

tenn_ace
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:23 PM
venus tweeted with : "we just finished the draw ceremony. i dressed unreasonably 80's, Serena was ridiculously 80's. hair to the side, pink lips, whole 9 yards" over an hour ago

:lol:

Inger67
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:24 PM
Group 1:

1. Dinara Safina
3. Svetlana Kuznetsova
5. Elena Dementieva
7. Venus Williams

Group 2

2. Serena Williams
4. Caroline Wozniacki
6. Viktoria Azarenka
8. Jelena Jankovic

-- I think :)

Wishful Thinking?

Serena would have the EASIEST draw then. Your opinion is a little biased ;)

youizahoe
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:24 PM
you think..??

that would be too straightforward :lol:

I hope so, im praying for it to be :lol:

youizahoe
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:25 PM
Wishful Thinking?

Serena would have the EASIEST draw then. Your opinion is a little biased ;)

venus her group is easier. Safina is under pressure, svetlana is a bit crazy and dementieva is tough.

Broseghini
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:26 PM
Group 1:

1. Dinara Safina
3. Svetlana Kuznetsova
5. Elena Dementieva
7. Venus Williams

Group 2

2. Serena Williams
4. Caroline Wozniacki
6. Viktoria Azarenka
8. Jelena Jankovic

-- I think :)

Or

2. Serena Williams
3. Svetlana Kuznetsova
5. Elena Dementieva
7. Venus Williams

Group 2

1. Dinara Safina
4. Caroline Wozniacki
6. Viktoria Azarenka
8. Jelena Jankovic

:o I hope not

MBM
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:26 PM
lol she's talking about their dress but not about the groups:lol:

whenever she's been to the ceremony at a slam, she aslways tweets with news about if she and rena are in the same half, but i guess in this tourney, it doesnt mean the same as it does at the slams

tenn_ace
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:26 PM
well, in this case hand the trophey to Serena. If she doesn't lose in the group, i.e. if she doesn't fail to advance to the semi, she is as good as a winner :p

Edinboro
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:27 PM
There was a picture posted and on the left was Serena, Elena, Vicotria, and Svetlana and on the right it was Jelena, Caroline, Dinara, and Venus. Could those be the groups? They werent standing in order of ranking.

Miss Amor
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:27 PM
Or

2. Serena Williams
3. Svetlana Kuznetsova
5. Elena Dementieva
7. Venus Williams

Group 2

1. Dinara Safina
4. Caroline Wozniacki
6. Viktoria Azarenka
8. Jelena Jankovic

:o I hope not

That would be the lamest draw ever, cannot make it anymore imbalanced.

frenchie
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:27 PM
I think Venus and Serena care more about the doubles in Doha
unfortunately...

tenn_ace
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:28 PM
There was a picture posted and on the left was Serena, Elena, Vicotria, and Svetlana and on the right it was Jelena, Caroline, Dinara, and Venus. Could those be the groups? They werent standing in order of ranking.



where did you see it?

Miss Amor
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:29 PM
where did you see it?

http://i37.tinypic.com/2hplh87.jpg

A-Bond
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:30 PM
Or

2. Serena Williams
3. Svetlana Kuznetsova
5. Elena Dementieva
7. Venus Williams

Group 2

1. Dinara Safina
4. Caroline Wozniacki
6. Viktoria Azarenka
8. Jelena Jankovic

:o I hope not

:lol: Dinara could actually reach the SF's in this group. As for Elena, I really hope this won't be her group, she deserves better :(

Inger67
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:30 PM
venus her group is easier. Safina is under pressure, svetlana is a bit crazy and dementieva is tough.

You've got to be kidding about Sveta. She has had an amazing season this year and just won Beijing. She is in great form and has a lot of confidence. She's pretty dangerous I think.

Uranium
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:31 PM
There was a picture posted and on the left was Serena, Elena, Vicotria, and Svetlana and on the right it was Jelena, Caroline, Dinara, and Venus. Could those be the groups? They werent standing in order of ranking.

I thought Venus and JJ couldn't be in the same group.

tenn_ace
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:31 PM
http://i37.tinypic.com/2hplh87.jpg

wow Is it because they are about 30m away from the camera or do they all look lovely?

Vaidisova Ruled
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:32 PM
This picture is awesome ! Too bad it's so small

Inger67
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:32 PM
There was a picture posted and on the left was Serena, Elena, Vicotria, and Svetlana and on the right it was Jelena, Caroline, Dinara, and Venus. Could those be the groups? They werent standing in order of ranking.

Omg I hope so, that would be great for Venus :)

A-Bond
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:32 PM
1. Safina
3. Kuznetsova
6. Azarenka
7. Jankovic

2. S. Williams
4. Wozniacki
5. Dementieva
7. V. Williams

This one would be great for Caro going 0-3.

youizahoe
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:33 PM
You've got to be kidding about Sveta. She has had an amazing season this year and just won Beijing. She is in great form and has a lot of confidence. She's pretty dangerous I think.

Oh please, you know svetlana is shit at the YEC.

Edinboro
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:34 PM
I thought Venus and JJ couldn't be in the same group.


You probably know more than I do. This is only the first YEC i've paid attention to. :wavey:

ElusiveChanteuse
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:34 PM
How do they arrange that with the Williams sisters at the sides?
I almost couldn't notice Serena at all.:rolls: :tape: :o I was like why are there only 6..wait..7 players?:confused: :lol:

MBM
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:34 PM
I thought Venus and JJ couldn't be in the same group.

i thought:
1&2 are placed in different groups
then 3&4 are placed in different groups
then 5-8 fill the last 2 spots in each group randomly..???

A-Bond
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:35 PM
IT really depends on the group with Sveta. Wozniacki and Jankovic are not good opponents for her, she has to dictate the points and makes UE after UE. With Serena, it would be even worse. She's pwning Venus and she could definitely handle Dinara, Elena and Victoria.

VishaalMaria
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:35 PM
I thought Venus and JJ couldn't be in the same group.

I hope not.

A-Bond
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:36 PM
i thought:
1&2 are placed in different groups
then 3&4 are placed in different groups
then 5-8 fill the last 2 spots in each group randomly..???

Well, in 2007 it was 1&2, 3&4, 5&6 and 7&8. That was the reason Danka couldn't draw Chacky.

MBM
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:36 PM
This picture is awesome ! Too bad it's so small

http://globoesporte.globo.com/Esportes/foto/0,,31592600-EX,00.jpg

bit bigger

VishaalMaria
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:36 PM
IT really depends on the group with Sveta. Wozniacki and Jankovic are not good opponents for her, she has to dictate the points and makes UE after UE. With Serena, it would be even worse. She's pwning Venus and she could definitely handle Dinara, Elena and Victoria.

How is she Pwning Venus?

You mean a 4-3 record is pwning? :eek:

A-Bond
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:37 PM
I hope not.

For Venus, I think Dinara, Caro and Victoria would be good.

Uranium
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:37 PM
Groups announced
Venus, Serena, Dementieva, Kuzy in one:haha:
Safina, Vika, Wozniacki and Jankovic in other:o

http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/SEWTATour-Archive/posting/2009/808/MDS.pdf

youizahoe
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:38 PM
Serena looks like a hoe :rolls:

VishaalMaria
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:38 PM
For Venus, I think Dinara, Caro and Victoria would be good.

I want Venus to draw Jelena and Sveta. Is that impossible?

Ferg
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:38 PM
Groups announced
Venus, Serena, Dementieva, Kuzy in one:haha:
Safina, Vika, Wozniacki and Jankovic in other:o


That has got to be one of the most retarded things ive ever heard. Putting the clear 4 best in one group? Euch.

Inger67
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:39 PM
Oh please, you know svetlana is shit at the YEC.

Well yeah I know her record is horrible at the YEC but that doesn't mean that it's automatic? She is on a 6 match win streak and has momentum going in.

You can't necessarily assume someone will do something just because of their previous history, that is where people are proved wrong and look like dumbasses.

youizahoe
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:39 PM
Groups announced
Venus, Serena, Dementieva, Kuzy in one:haha:
Safina, Vika, Wozniacki and Jankovic in other:o

Well, now we don't need to worry about a Serena vs Venus SF :lol:

Yorker
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:39 PM
Groups announced
Venus, Serena, Dementieva, Kuzy in one:haha:
Safina, Vika, Wozniacki and Jankovic in other:o

http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/SEWTATour-Archive/posting/2009/808/MDS.pdf

please tell me ur kidding, that is awful

A-Bond
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:39 PM
How is she Pwning Venus?

You mean a 4-3 record is pwning? :eek:

Well, she won 3 of their last 4 meetings (with Venus win coming at Wimbledon :o) which isn't bad against a player like Venus. I really think Kuznetsova would be a hard one for Venus.

VishaalMaria
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:39 PM
How does the YECs work?

MBM
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:39 PM
Groups announced
Venus, Serena, Dementieva, Kuzy in one:haha:
Safina, Vika, Wozniacki and Jankovic in other:o

http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/SEWTATour-Archive/posting/2009/808/MDS.pdf

oh my buggery bollocks....

frenchie
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:39 PM
Groups announced
Venus, Serena, Dementieva, Kuzy in one:haha:
Safina, Vika, Wozniacki and Jankovic in other:o

http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/SEWTATour-Archive/posting/2009/808/MDS.pdf

Safina is always so lucky

SF : Venus, Serena, Safina, Wozniacki

Michael!
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:40 PM
:weirdo:
:help:

great groups, horrible :tape:

White Group is one big joke :spit:

Ferg
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:40 PM
Is anybody looking forward to Bali more after this draw?

A-Bond
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:40 PM
Groups announced
Venus, Serena, Dementieva, Kuzy in one:haha:
Safina, Vika, Wozniacki and Jankovic in other:o

http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/SEWTATour-Archive/posting/2009/808/MDS.pdf

OMG. Dementieva is out for sure. JJ could make the Semis.

young_gunner913
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:41 PM
LMFAO WTA never fails to deliever utter shit. :o

MBM
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:41 PM
How does the YECs work?

round robin in each group (each player plays the other three).
the best of maroon group plays the second best from white group and vice versa as semis.
then the final is between the winners of the semis

Inger67
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:41 PM
SUCH BULL SHIT! Omg. This year has been FULL of lopsided draws. Ridiculous.

youizahoe
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:42 PM
My Semis :

Serena
Caroline

Venus
Jelena

tenn_ace
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:42 PM
I can't believe it. What a bullshit. Total fucking crap. Sveta :bigcry:

Christinawww
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:42 PM
This picture is awesome ! Too bad it's so small

bigger pictures:
http://www.hantuchova-fan.com/azarenka-fan/Media/index.php?section=pictures&var=/2009/Doha%20YEC

Julian.
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:43 PM
LMAO at the draw :haha:

I was thinking about this draw a few days ago and it became reality! :spit:

MBM
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:43 PM
i was hoping they'd have done the doubles draw too. i want bluber out in sf and williamses to win!

Feyd
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:43 PM
:tape: :help:

Dodoboy.
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:43 PM
I don't believe this! No, seriously that draw is fake!

You can't. you just CANT!

A-Bond
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:44 PM
Wow. I really think Azarenka and Wozniacki won't advance. Safina isn't as afraid in such matches (compared to Williams-matches). If JJ is fit, she will make SF. Victoria hasn't enough firepower and will be frustrated due to JJ's defense and Caroline has no weapon to hit trough that kind of defense.

Miss Amor
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:44 PM
Worst possible groups ever.

Ferg
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:44 PM
Serena, Sveta, Elena, Venus

Dinara, Caroline, Victoria, Jelena


:spit: What a draw. :tape::help: It just ruined my hopes that this YEC could actually be good.

Uranium
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:44 PM
i was hoping they'd have done the doubles draw too. i want bluber out in sf and williamses to win!

That's done Thursday.

Galsen
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:44 PM
dead @ the draw
if Dinara doesn't want one match...

Craigy
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:44 PM
:spit: What's new.

ElusiveChanteuse
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:44 PM
20 slams vs 0 slams.:haha:

Ballbasher
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:44 PM
Okay :help: My hope for Sveta winning a match is at 0% now :o

Julian.
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:44 PM
:haha:

My wish came true :spit:

Just Do It
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:45 PM
Venus, Serena, Dementieva, Sveta
Safina, Vika, Wozniacki and Jankovic

Love it.

Dodoboy.
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:45 PM
Satanists, Pageans, Witches and the BNP must LOVE it!

trufanjay
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:45 PM
How could they put Venus, Elena, Serena and Kuzy all in one group??????????? Thats ridiculous, not even because the Williams sisters are together, but these are arguably the best four women at the event!

Michael!
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:46 PM
All the fans of Safina,Jankovic,Azarenka and Wozniacki will love that draw!
This group is one big joke :spit:
They have the 4 strongest players in one group :mad:

Sexysova
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:46 PM
wow :help: this is definitely going to be the worst YEC ever..? :o

Nikkiri
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:46 PM
Pathetic. :o

MBM
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:46 PM
That's done Thursday.

thanks :yeah:

Inger67
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:47 PM
Well I hope Venus Serena and Vika and Caro in SF. With the WS absolutely embarrassing the two of them and making it to the final where Vee wins in an Epic 3 setter! 7-5, 6-7, 11-9 (if no tiebreak 3rd set) :)

MBM
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:47 PM
20 slams vs 0 slams.:haha:

lolz. hilarious way of looking at it!

Edinboro
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:47 PM
20 slams vs 0 slams.:haha:

Omg, when you put it that way.. :help:

youizahoe
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:47 PM
It's pure propaganda by WTA. It's so obvious they wanna see Serena vs Venus twice. :lol:

Just Do It
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:47 PM
Love it :yeah:

Galsen
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:47 PM
20 slams vs 0 slams.:haha:

:lol::lol::lol:

Jorn
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:47 PM
We got it, the best in one group! ;)

duhcity
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:47 PM
Heh, JJ having a great chance at the Semis.
Venus vs. Sveta

And Venus having the chance to have a 2nd and 3rd set beatdown over Serena again?

Love it.

Dodoboy.
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:48 PM
I'm a Wozniacki fan, i hate it!

I would liked to have seen Sveta and Dementieva in her group!

youizahoe
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:48 PM
20 slams vs 0 slams.:haha:

:rolls:

_marial_
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:48 PM
:o:help: What a horrible draw :help::tape:

Julian.
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:48 PM
2 WTA #1 vs 2 WTA #1 :shrug:

:haha::spit:

This is hilarious.

Miss Amor
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:48 PM
Ofcourse the Caro/dina/vika/Jj fans are going to like it. They will be relieved that their faves dont have to play a single GS winner.

20 slams, 2 OGs and an elite force of WTA on one side; 0 slams, pushers and headcases on the other.

Michael!
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:48 PM
Okay :help: My hope for Sveta winning a match is at 0% now :o

Sveta has good chances to win against Elena and Venus IMO ..:mad:
My 3 favs in one group :rolleyes:
That group is :mad:

Just Do It
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:48 PM
Well I hope Venus Serena and Vika and Caro in SF. With the WS absolutely embarrassing the two of them and making it to the final where Vee wins in an Epic 3 setter! 7-5, 6-7, 11-9 (if no tiebreak 3rd set) :)

:lol: I kinda think Venus will struggle to win a set :tape:

Illusionist
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:48 PM
JJ!!! Win it, girl!!!

Christinawww
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:49 PM
as a Vika fan I am satisfied, but on paper it does seem a bit unbalanced

Julian.
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:49 PM
2 WTA #1 vs 2 WTA #1 doesn't sound too bad at least :spit::haha:

Ferg
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:49 PM
Winners = Dina, JJ, Caro + Vika fans

Losers = WS, Lena and Sveta fans + tennis lovers + whats left of the WTA's credibility

Ballbasher
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:50 PM
Jankovic has a huge shot by now, I reckon. I hope Vika can qualify at least, no hope for Sveta! :bigcry: I vcould imagine both finalists coming from the Maroon Group!

Yorker
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:50 PM
i have a feeling only one sister will make it out of the first group, just a feeling no reason behind it then woz and janko from the bottom.

nevetssllim
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:50 PM
WTF?!

So we have the Australian and Wimbledon champion, the Olympic champion, the French Open champion and the defending champion in one group.

And in the other group we have the player who won Rome and Madrid, Shrieky Vicky, Pushniacki and someone who qualified by the skin of her teeth.

I don't think it could be more imbalanced if we tried.

Although I guess on a positive note we should get some good match-ups in the first pool.

A-Bond
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:50 PM
All the fans of Safina,Jankovic,Azarenka and Wozniacki will love that draw!
This group is one big joke :spit:
They have the 4 strongest players in one group :mad:

As a Safina-Fan, that's true :lol::lol: I mean the brown group could have been SF's with both Williams, Dementieva and Kuznetsova.

Wilson_07
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:50 PM
Okay :help: My hope for Sveta winning a match is at 0% now :o


why? i think she has a chance against all of them. i think it's very tough for serena in this group. she has always tough fights with kuznetsova that either player could win, she hates to play dementieva and venus is also able to beat her.
maybe it's a late additional punishment for the us open incident :o

Sammm
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:51 PM
This is why they should have used the real rankings and not the race.
Seeding are normally based on what you've done in the last 52 weeks and for Venus that includes last year's YEC win :shrug:
Utterly ridiculous that 3 of the world's top 4 are in the same group.

saul1333
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:51 PM
Great draw for Vika finally :)

Shit group for Lena :sad:

duhcity
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:51 PM
No way Caro fans are happy. A perfect Caro group would have Dementieva and Sveta

kaktusino
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:52 PM
Last year it was Serena Venus Elena and Dinara in one group, this year it's almost the same.. :O bye the way white group sucks.. :(

tenn_ace
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:52 PM
WTF?!

So we have the Australian and Wimbledon champion, the Olympic champion, the French Open champion and the defending champion in one group.

And in the other group we have the player who won Rome and Madrid, Shrieky Vicky, Pushniacki and someone who qualified by the skin of her teeth.

I don't think it could be more imbalanced if we tried.

Although I guess on a positive note we should get some good match-ups in the first pool.


you said it :shrug:

A-Bond
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:52 PM
Ofcourse the Caro/dina/vika/Jj fans are going to like it. They will be relieved that their faves dont have to play a single GS winner.

20 slams and an elite force of WTA on one side, 0 slams and pushers and headcases on the other.

Love this one :hearts:

They really shouldn't make the draw this way. Experts should make a list like Wimbledon seedings which would have been:

1. S. Williams
2. S. Kuznetsova
3. E. Dementieva
4. V. Williams
5. D. Safina
6. V. Azarenka
7. J. Jankovic
8. C. Wozniacki

Galsen
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:52 PM
WTF?!

So we have the Australian and Wimbledon champion, the Olympic champion, the French Open champion and the defending champion in one group.

And in the other group we have the player who won Rome and Madrid, Shrieky Vicky, Pushniacki and someone who qualified by the skin of her teeth.

I don't think it could be more imbalanced if we tried.

Although I guess on a positive note we should get some good match-ups in the first pool.

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

youizahoe
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:52 PM
why? i think she has a chance against all of them. i think it's very tough for serena in this group. she has always tough fights with kuznetsova that either player could win, she hates to play dementieva and venus is also able to beat her.
maybe it's a late additional punishment for the us open incident :o

I have a feeling Serena will knock them out by ease, venus might be harder :sobbing:

hankqq
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:53 PM
:spit: interesting groups
I'm pissed about Serena, Venus and Sveta all being in the same group :rolleyes: :o

Safina has a legitimate shot at reaching the sf now :eek:

A-Bond
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:53 PM
No way Caro fans are happy. A perfect Caro group would have Dementieva and Sveta

That's true. JJ will not suit Caro and she did not have good results this year against Dinara and Vika :tape:

Vaidisova Ruled
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:54 PM
My favourite player here is JJ. Her draw could have been worse.
But I like the other side: Serena, Venus, Sveta and Elena. There are going to be LOTS of good matches with them. I can't wait.

Slutiana
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:54 PM
New lows for the WTA. :spit:

Suddenly Caroline winning a match + Dinara qualifying is looking likely. :spit::help::tape::crying2:

clonesheep
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:55 PM
Jankovic got a lucky break. She would probably avoid a humiliating 0-3 exit. I hope Azarenka and Wozniacki rule the bottom group. Serena and Venus rule the top one. Them as final 4 will be most exciting.

VIKA?
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:55 PM
I love it:hearts:

Ferg
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:56 PM
But I like the other side: Serena, Venus, Sveta and Elena. There are going to be LOTS of good matches with them. I can't wait.

Id prefer good semi and final matches to RR matches though :sobbing:

Nikkiri
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:56 PM
Jankovic, Safina, Wozniacki and Azarenka fans obviously love it.

hankqq
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:58 PM
If only Venus and JJ could switch places, the draw would be what I wanted :p Instead 3 of my faves are in the same group :o :fiery: (Serena, Venus, Sveta).

MBM
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:59 PM
its a nightmare, but will probably bring up some great RR matches. and it is easier for vee and ree to make the final

youizahoe
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:59 PM
:lol: I'd so laugh if Safina doesn't manage to win a match :lol:

Kim's_fan_4ever
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:00 PM
That's pretty interesting :lol:
Take advantage of your draw Jelena :armed:

Okay :help: My hope for Sveta winning a match is at 0% now :o

Svetlana could easily go 3-0 and easily 0-3 :lol: She's just too unpredictable ;)

Vaidisova Ruled
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:01 PM
Id prefer good semi and final matches to RR matches though :sobbing:
Well, 2 of them are going to be in SF, and I guess those two will be in the final. I thought I would miss Maria, but it's going to be awesome :bounce:

Convoluted
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:03 PM
If Safina doesn't get to the SF now :tape:

saul1333
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:03 PM
Love:hearts:/Hate:fiery: it.

Wilson_07
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:04 PM
I have a feeling Serena will knock them out by ease, venus might be harder :sobbing:


at least we have some interesting matchups right from the start. hopefully venus finds form, i'm excited to see her play kuznetsova. hopefully this time both of them play well.
if serena takes this seriously and is fit, she can beat everyone, let's just wait and see. it's very unbalanced though for sure.

Ballbasher
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:04 PM
why? i think she has a chance against all of them. i think it's very tough for serena in this group. she has always tough fights with kuznetsova that either player could win, she hates to play dementieva and venus is also able to beat her.
maybe it's a late additional punishment for the us open incident :o

Sveta has good chances to win against Elena and Venus IMO ..:mad:
My 3 favs in one group :rolleyes:
That group is :mad:
Sveta usually does well in the same tournament. Miami, Paris, New York, Bejing. She always scores her best results in those 4. While she always goes out early at Wimbledon & Yec. ;) Last year the surface was crap for her and Venus seemed to love it! She has a shot against Elena, but I expect Serena being out there to take FO revenge! If Elena and Vika would trade places, the 4 I want to see with the title would be in 1 group. If she can use the White Group to her advantage it would be cool. I kind of hope now Serena and Venus, if they go through, send out drubbings in the SF, unless they play Vika, and contest a high quality final and IF Sveta should make it through, it remains the same. :p

Daruma.
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:04 PM
When will the doubles draw be out?

Andreas
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:05 PM
OMG :crying2: My 3 faves in the same group, and I didn't even want it to happen :sobbing:
I was looking so much forward to watching my favourites playing the Williams sisters :tears:

Well at least I'm sure to get at least 1 of my favourites in the semis :tape:

Good luck Vika, Caro and Jelena! I hope you will all beat Safina :angel:

Roookie
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:05 PM
OMG!..Jelena got the toughest draw. World's number one, USO finalist and Miami champion. :scared:. Win them all JJ.

Convoluted
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:05 PM
Jankovic got a lucky break. She would probably avoid a humiliating 0-3 exit. I hope Azarenka and Wozniacki rule the bottom group. Serena and Venus rule the top one. Them as final 4 will be most exciting.

Agreed. The youngsters vs team Williams would have me excited :). And at least with this draw the RR matches should be competitive :p

Matt01
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:07 PM
:lol: I kinda think Venus will struggle to win a set :tape:


With that cakewalk draw? I don't think so - even a slumping Venus should be able to overcame Serena at a non-Slam. And when was the last time that Demented or Kuzzie have won a match at the YEC? :tape: (My bet is on Venus to make the semis.)

The other group is looking interesting, though :lol:

Ferg
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:08 PM
OMG!..Jelena got the toughest draw. World's number one, USO finalist and Miami champion. :scared:. Win them all JJ.

Are you serious?

Ballbasher
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:08 PM
That's pretty interesting :lol:
Take advantage of your draw Jelena :armed:



Svetlana could easily go 3-0 and easily 0-3 :lol: She's just too unpredictable ;)
So far she's been pretty predictable at the YEC. :lol: Well my huge hope dies last. :p

Adal
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:09 PM
Well done once again, WTA.

http://i37.tinypic.com/13zv6z6.gif

Princeza
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:09 PM
Demented :hug:

Ajde.

mckyle.
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:10 PM
Only one person wins the tournament. Who cares who is in which group?

Edinboro
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:10 PM
Good luck Lena! You've got this!

thrust
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:10 PM
Serena, Sveta, Elena, Venus

Dinara, Caroline, Victoria, Jelena


:spit: What a draw. :tape::help: It just ruined my hopes that this YEC could actually be good.

TOO FUNNY-LOL!! The WTA is amazing! They just couldn't have gotten it worse, if they tried- OR DID THEY?

Andreas
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:11 PM
I really don't know what to think about this draw :tears:
I'm hoping two of my faves and the Williams sisters can advance. I was looking forward to see my favourites play Serena and Venus. Guess that isn't sure to happen :sad:

MBM
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:16 PM
Only one person wins the tournament. Who cares who is in which group?

but that one person might not have been successful had they been put into the other group..

and four players in one group, only 2 of them can make the semis, whereas a reshuffle could have seen all 4 in the semis. and the extra points do mean something

tejmeglekvár
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:16 PM
looks like Stacey Allaster is a big Dinara fan too :yeah: :spit:

TheBoiledEgg
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:17 PM
at least Lena or Sveta.......... one will win a match this yr

bet the idiots at WTA put some idiotic schedule as always
like 1 person plays all 3 matches before another plays their 2nd :rolleyes:

Vika go qualify from that gp :armed:

AnomyBC
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:17 PM
Hmmmm. Well the good news is this is a good draw for one of my favs (Wozniacki, Jankovic and Azarenka) to make it to the Final, but on the negative side I can't have two of them there. Also, this makes it less likely that I'll get to see the match I was really looking forward to: Caro vs. Serena. Hopefully, that will wind up being the Final though, which would really kick ass... Especially if Caro wins it somehow :inlove:

DimaDinosaur
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:17 PM
LOL, dementieva will go 0-3

but at least she has chances to beat venus, serena, and kuzzie so she might become 3-0

DragonFlame
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:18 PM
ÃRGHGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHH

Someone bash my head in. :smash: :smash: :smash:

FUCKING UNBELIEVABLE!!! WHY THIS, come on... We end with the most pathetic groupcombination. That whitegroup :weirdo:

The quality in the white group will be appauling, i can tell you right now. :help:

So fucking happy this year is over, what a damn crap ending this is. :lol: :o :p :rolleyes: :worship: :bounce:

Byebye wta09 :wavey:

MBM
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:19 PM
at least Lena or Sveta.......... one will win a match this yr

bet the idiots at WTA put some idiotic schedule as always
like 1 person plays all 3 matches before another plays their 2nd :rolleyes:

Vika go qualify from that gp :armed:

was the schedule so idiotic last year..?? each player had one day off b4 the semis. i liked that schedule

DimaDinosaur
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:20 PM
my dream came true!! I will get to see Serena play Venus at least once and Wozniacki, Azarenka, Safina, and Jankovic are my favorites so I know at least 2 of them will advance to the semis :woohoo: I hope wozniacki and jankovic can do it, but safina and azarenka advancing aren't bad choices either so I'm really happy with this draw. I hope dementieva gets killed by Serena and Venus

KoOlMaNsEaN
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:21 PM
unbelievable. basically it's

THE GROUP

the other group

tenn_ace
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:22 PM
Sveta and Lena to qualify
Dinara and whoever. I guess, Vika, who I'm not a fan of, but as long as Wozniacki doesn't qualify, I'm happy.

Stamp Paid
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:22 PM
Are you fucking serious?

MaBaker
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:23 PM
:haha:

Broseghini
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:24 PM
Or

2. Serena Williams
3. Svetlana Kuznetsova
5. Elena Dementieva
7. Venus Williams

Group 2

1. Dinara Safina
4. Caroline Wozniacki
6. Viktoria Azarenka
8. Jelena Jankovic

:o I hope not
I said this before groups posted..

WTA :tape:

CuteKoala
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:24 PM
Ajde! :D

Adal
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:25 PM
Ajde! :D
I missed your brilliant and creative graphics so much. Have any new ones you'd like to share?

Matt01
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:26 PM
I don't love it but I like it, so a combination of option 2 and 3.

What I don't like is that we will have to see an all-WS-match. I think I will skip that one, the quality of play this year on the WTA tour has already been abysmal enough.


Winners = Dina, JJ, Caro + Vika fans

Losers = WS, Lena and Sveta fans + tennis lovers + whats left of the WTA's credibility


:spit:

TheBoiledEgg
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:29 PM
was the schedule so idiotic last year..?? each player had one day off b4 the semis. i liked that schedule

yes.........

why cant they do it like ATP does
2nd RR matches....... winner vs winner
loser vs loser
so chance of dead matches is pretty slim.

AnomyBC
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:30 PM
No way Caro fans are happy. A perfect Caro group would have Dementieva and Sveta

Actually, that's true. Caro has better records against Dementieva and Kuznetsova than she does against Safina, Azarenka and Jankovic. That said though, I'm cautiously optimistic :)

Vanity Bonfire
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:33 PM
What an absolute fucking travesty. Put the four best players in the world in one group and a bunch of players who have pretty much been crap since Wimbledon in the other.

Congrats WTA!

V-MAC
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:34 PM
At least Vee should score a win over Elena..not sure about Sveta and Serena:scared: That Miami 08 match against Sveta is still fresh in the memory:(

!Gio!
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:34 PM
Great, lets but the slumping players in one group(Altough I like Jelena's chances) and lets but the most accomplished and dangerous ones in the other cause that will just be great for Wta tennis!!! This is an utter joke, very dissapointed!!!!

Matt01
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:35 PM
What an absolute fucking travesty. Put the four best players in the world in one group and a bunch of players who have pretty much been crap since Wimbledon in the other.
Congrats WTA!


What are you talking about? :lol:

And do you know Demented's and Kuzzie's record at the YEC? :tape: :help:

!Gio!
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:35 PM
and if Caro makes the final than WTA= RIP

Jorn
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:40 PM
If Nastya Pavly. can beat Venus 2 times in a row, she may go 0-3 in that Group :(

Inger67
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:41 PM
The only people who are happy are the fans of the players that just got a chance at a SF birth that the would not have normally gotten... :help:

TheBoiledEgg
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:43 PM
as long as Jankovic goes 0-3 it will be ideal group

Matt01
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:44 PM
The only people who are happy are the fans of the players that just got a chance at a SF birth that the would not have normally gotten... :help:


You mean fans like you and players like Venus, eh? :p

I agree, lucky V has a cakewalk draw.

miffedmax
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:46 PM
The is a draw that should do wonders for the ratings...



of everything on earth except women's tennis. Awful, awful, awful draw. Not even the return of Lena's bangs could make this watchable.

Vanity Bonfire
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:47 PM
What are you talking about? :lol:

And do you know Demented's and Kuzzie's record at the YEC? :tape: :help:

So, you honestly think that Wozniacki, Azarenka and Safina will play better here?

tdot.
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:48 PM
WTF :haha:

AnomyBC
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:50 PM
What an absolute fucking travesty. Put the four best players in the world in one group and a bunch of players who have pretty much been crap since Wimbledon in the other.

Congrats WTA!

Wozniacki has been crap since Wimbledon??? :confused:

Matt01
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:50 PM
So, you honestly think that Wozniacki, Azarenka and Safina will play better here?


Perhaps. If Wozniacki's injury is healed and Safina and Vika someday decide to finally get ouf their slumps, why not, it is possible :shrug:

Inger67
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:51 PM
You mean fans like you and players like Venus, eh? :p

I agree, lucky V has a cakewalk draw.

You've got to be kidding.

louisa.
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:52 PM
:haha: :haha: great :sobbing:

Nacho
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:52 PM
I'm actually loving it :inlove:

Matt01
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:53 PM
You've got to be kidding.


Not any more kidding than you are :D

Patrick345
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:54 PM
What a great opportunity for Jankovic and Zvonareva as the Wozniacki replacement, whose injury must be pretty bad, if it shows up on a scan. :tape:

Inger67
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:54 PM
Perhaps. If Wozniacki's injury is healed and Safina and Vika someday decide to finally get ouf their slumps, why not, it is possible :shrug:

You're so full of shit. If it is possible for them to stop playing utter shit for tennis, why can Sveta not do good and have a chance against Venus & Serena despite her 2-10 ranking? She is on a 6 match win streak and is playing great tennis as of late. You are so ignorant.

¤CharlDa¤
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:58 PM
Ridiculous, but it's sadly just the luck of the draw...

Good thing is: If Venus and Serena get to 1 and 2 in the group, which is possible, then we could have a Williams final.

GracefulVenus
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:01 PM
Sucks!

kaktusino
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:01 PM
We can still have a Williams final :weirdo:

Matt01
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:01 PM
You're so full of shit. If it is possible for them to stop playing utter shit for tennis, why can Sveta not do good and have a chance against Venus & Serena despite her 2-10 ranking? She is on a 6 match win streak and is playing great tennis as of late. You are so ignorant.


Of course that is possible for her, too :shrug: But people were acting as if the players of the maroon group were all all-time greats and in great current form, which is simply not true.

Inger67
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:04 PM
Of course that is possible for her, too :shrug: But people were acting as if the players of the maroon group were all all-time greats and in great current form, which is simply not true.

Better form than the other 4 players.

SAISAI-GOAT
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:06 PM
this draw sucks :help:
Pushniacki and Catfina will advance SF

Noctis
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:09 PM
:eek:

Rix643
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:09 PM
I can only conclude the WTA wants to get rid of the YEC.....

Matt01
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:10 PM
Better form than the other 4 players.


Marginally at best thanks to Sveta's win in Bejing.

Roookie
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:12 PM
What are people complaining so much. 2 players from the same group can make the final anyway :shrug:.

Tanja8
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:12 PM
After the first shock I actually like it.
I expect nothing from Lena at all and I can`t be dissapointed. She always has problems with Venus, Sveta is in good form (probably) and there is a tough match against Serena ...

But still I hope for Lena - Dinara and Vika - Sveta SF.

Noctis
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:12 PM
Serena Venus Jelena Dinara SF

tennisforadults
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:12 PM
What an absolute fucking travesty. Put the four best players in the world in one group and a bunch of players who have pretty much been crap since Wimbledon in the other.

Congrats WTA!

People, it's called a 'draw' - meaning LUCK. WTA didn't intentionally put 3 multiple grand slam winners in one group and none in the other. They were probably horrified themselves after they saw the computer do its thing. It's unfortunate, but stop blaming WTA as if they made the decisions.

Anyway, for WS fans, Venus and Serena can still go into SFs on top of their group and play each other in the finals.

For the 'weak' group, it's a chance for some of them to salvage a not-so-good year to at least make the semis.

Singleniacki
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:13 PM
OMG This is gonna be so epic !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mynarco
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:15 PM
Serena and Venus in same group AGAIN?:o

AnnaK_4ever
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:20 PM
Never in doubt. Really, NEVER in doubt.

Venus and Dementieva to make the semis out of the champions group with Serena withdrawing after two matches.
In the group of the ones who never won a thing Safina and Jankovic should have little problems dispatching Azarenka and Pushniacki.

The outcome: Safina is the year-end No.1 and Venus repeats as YEC champion.

дalex
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:20 PM
Amazing draw!

Good luck to Jeja. She was gonna need it whatever the draw. This is a good start. :lol:

VishaalMaria
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:21 PM
WTF?!

So we have the Australian and Wimbledon champion, the Olympic champion, the French Open champion and the defending champion in one group.

And in the other group we have the player who won Rome and Madrid, Shrieky Vicky, Pushniacki and someone who qualified by the skin of her teeth.

I don't think it could be more imbalanced if we tried.

Although I guess on a positive note we should get some good match-ups in the first pool.

The Kaz's signature is almost as bad.

Duramont
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:24 PM
Elena in the toughest group of course :(

PLP
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:24 PM
What are people complaining so much. 2 players from the same group can make the final anyway :shrug:.

:lol:

That's what I was going to say.

Meh...I don't love the groups, but it's a draw.

Mynarco
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:27 PM
I am not happy with this draw because I don't wanna see WS matchup again..come on..I miss JJ-Venus matchup SO BAD.

Hugh.
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:27 PM
Oh ma dayz what a draw! :lol:

Well at least it's nice enough for Caro...but it's terrible for Elena:o

Inger67
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:28 PM
What are people complaining so much. 2 players from the same group can make the final anyway :shrug:.

Because they're favorite might not get to the SF/F in a group with the BEST or better 4 players than if it would have been mixed.. :help:

juki
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:33 PM
I voted meh.

No matter the draw it just seems hard to get excited about the YEC this year. All players coming in with poor form, not much prospect of high quality exciting matches, little consistency throughout the year, etc. It just doesn't have the same importance and excitement this year, even with the battle for #1. I'm looking forward to Poitiers and Ortisei this week more then the YEC.

jefrilibra
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:36 PM
Who created these groups? Stevie Wonder?:lol:

DragonFlame
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:41 PM
Yesterday i was still talking about how sad i am that the off-season is coming but now i can't wait. :help:

What an absolute disappointment of a fall-season this was.

Vanity Bonfire
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:44 PM
Who created these groups? Stevie Wonder?:lol:

I know I shouldn't have laughed at your comment but I did.

goldenlox
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:59 PM
It doesn't matter because 2 players from each half make the semis.
And very few players play well this time of year.

SAEKeithSerena
Oct 25th, 2009, 11:12 PM
tough draw, serena

Corswandt
Oct 25th, 2009, 11:13 PM
Venus, Serena, Dementieva, Sveta
Safina, Vika, Wozniacki and Jankovic

:lol:

Just like last year, a draw designed to favour the WTA Tour's "rising star". Once the Serbian GOAT, now Pushniacki.

I don't think we can afford to laugh at the current state of the WTA for much longer, but Safina as year end #1 on account of this would be a hoot.

The Dawntreader
Oct 25th, 2009, 11:16 PM
That second group.

I can see the tornado now.

MagicMilan
Oct 25th, 2009, 11:16 PM
:haha: :haha: :haha:
Sveta will cruise through this "championship"

Brena
Oct 25th, 2009, 11:18 PM
I don't like it.
I could live with JJ losing to Serena, Venus, Sexlana or Demi.
I'll have to kill myself (again) when she loses to Woz-Woz-Wozniacki, Vicky and Dinara.

Slutiana
Oct 25th, 2009, 11:26 PM
The is a draw that should do wonders for the ratings...



of everything on earth except women's tennis. Awful, awful, awful draw. Not even the return of Lena's bangs could make this watchable.

You seriously just made me LOL. :sobbing:


You seriously just have to laugh now. It's THAT bad, it can't even be taken seriously anymore. :help:

Craig.
Oct 25th, 2009, 11:29 PM
FML :weirdo:

Another cakewalk for Shitfina :weirdo:

Elena, Venus, Serena in the same group :weirdo:

Slutiana
Oct 25th, 2009, 11:29 PM
Who created these groups? Stevie Wonder?:lol:

:lol:

Just like last year, a draw designed to favour the WTA Tour's "rising star". Once the Serbian GOAT, now Pushniacki.

I don't think we can afford to laugh at the current state of the WTA for much longer, but Safina as year end #1 on account of this would be a hoot.

:sobbing: Stop making me laugh so much people, THIS IS A SERIOUS MATTER. :sobbing::hysteric::bigcry:

Alex03Maccy
Oct 25th, 2009, 11:31 PM
they're awful, 4 best players together and then the tripe :o

Illusionist
Oct 25th, 2009, 11:45 PM
Good draw for Jelena. Top the group and get to the semis baby. I don't care what happens then. Although a title at YEC would save the season, that's for sure.

hdfb
Oct 25th, 2009, 11:47 PM
it just HAD to happen didn't it? :lol:

Dodoboy.
Oct 25th, 2009, 11:49 PM
We get good matches from the get go! Why is everyone bitching! Unfortunate that this happened, but i'#ve come to terms with it! I'm excited! Super excited! Top players playing each other, we havent had that at a single tournament this year!

davidmario
Oct 25th, 2009, 11:49 PM
group2 can pack their bags and take the next flight out to bali!

StephenUK
Oct 25th, 2009, 11:52 PM
What an absolute fucking travesty. Put the four best players in the world in one group and a bunch of players who have pretty much been crap since Wimbledon in the other.

Congrats WTA!

If you are looking at who has been crap since Wimbledon, the Williams sisters have been running Safina pretty close. It has only because Serena has been slightly less crap that she regained the No 1 ranking. I can't think of a time in the last 30 years when none of the top 3 have managed to win a single tournament in a 2 month period, unfortunately they didn't put this new low stat in the Notes and Netcords this week.

This YEC is a joke because the top 8 are a joke. The fact is that only 8 out of over 50 tour events have been won by the top seed, which just goes to show how poorly the top players have performed over the year. I would expect Jelena Jankovic to win this event and then lose 1r in the Australian Open if this year's meaningless string of results is to continue, whereas Serena and Safina will both lose in the round robin section; the one who ends up with the year end ranking will be the one who loses less matches at this stage.

jrollaneres25
Oct 26th, 2009, 12:51 AM
Well I hope Venus Serena and Vika and Caro in SF. With the WS absolutely embarrassing the two of them and making it to the final where Vee wins in an Epic 3 setter! 7-5, 6-7, 11-9 (if no tiebreak 3rd set) :)

:lol::lol:

Love it!

jrollaneres25
Oct 26th, 2009, 12:56 AM
I really don't know what to think about this draw :tears:
I'm hoping two of my faves and the Williams sisters can advance. I was looking forward to see my favourites play Serena and Venus. Guess that isn't sure to happen :sad:

Who is that in your avatar?

spice_of_life
Oct 26th, 2009, 12:58 AM
Er, this draw was random wasn't it? What is the WTA supposed to do? Re-do the draw because it doesn't have 'balance'? :weirdo: We've seen this at slams before. It happens.

youizahoe
Oct 26th, 2009, 12:58 AM
Who is that in your avatar?

One very hot guy :speakles:

Roookie
Oct 26th, 2009, 12:58 AM
Yesterday i was still talking about how sad i am that the off-season is coming but now i can't wait. :help:

What an absolute disappointment of a fall-season this was.

Only the fall season?. This season blew from Melbourne to Moscow. I'm happy its almost over too.

spice_of_life
Oct 26th, 2009, 12:59 AM
If you are looking at who has been crap since Wimbledon, the Williams sisters have been running Safina pretty close. It has only because Serena has been slightly less crap that she regained the No 1 ranking. I can't think of a time in the last 30 years when none of the top 3 have managed to win a single tournament in a 2 month period, unfortunately they didn't put this new low stat in the Notes and Netcords this week.

This YEC is a joke because the top 8 are a joke. The fact is that only 8 out of over 50 tour events have been won by the top seed, which just goes to show how poorly the top players have performed over the year. I would expect Jelena Jankovic to win this event and then lose 1r in the Australian Open if this year's meaningless string of results is to continue, whereas Serena and Safina will both lose in the round robin section; the one who ends up with the year end ranking will be the one who loses less matches at this stage.Word. :)

In The Zone
Oct 26th, 2009, 01:00 AM
Everyone keeps saying this is a cakewalk for Wozniacki and Safina. Is it weird that I disagree and think Jankovic and Azarenka are the two in the SF from that group? :unsure: I also see Safina going 0-3 ...

Galsen
Oct 26th, 2009, 01:02 AM
Everyone keeps saying this is a cakewalk for Wozniacki and Safina. Is it weird that I disagree and think Jankovic and Azarenka are the two in the SF from that group? :unsure: I also see Safina going 0-3 ...

weirdy I also see her going 0-3

youizahoe
Oct 26th, 2009, 01:05 AM
Everyone keeps saying this is a cakewalk for Wozniacki and Safina. Is it weird that I disagree and think Jankovic and Azarenka are the two in the SF from that group? :unsure: I also see Safina going 0-3 ...

I think the standing will be like

Jankovic 3-0
Wozniacki 2-1
Azarenka 1-2
Safina 0-3

Renalicious
Oct 26th, 2009, 01:07 AM
Omg....can the groups any more contrasting. :sobbing:

You have the four best players from the 8 all in one group. :sobbing: :bigcry:

The other you have slumping former #1st and wannabes/newcomrs. :o

doujyr
Oct 26th, 2009, 01:07 AM
Sistahs fans will be rejoicing as it keeps the possibility of a Sistahs final open.

Renalicious
Oct 26th, 2009, 01:14 AM
I think the Semi's will go...

Group 1
Svetlana Kuznetsova
Venus Williams

Group 2
Caroline Wozniacki
Jelena Jankovic

Golovinjured.
Oct 26th, 2009, 01:23 AM
:spit: Lord! :rolls:


I'm actually looking forward to the Venus-Serena-Elena-Kuznetsova matches. Atleast this way we're almost assured of 6 YEC-quality matches.

Slutiana
Oct 26th, 2009, 01:27 AM
:spit: Lord! :rolls:


I'm actually looking forward to the Venus-Serena-Elena-Kuznetsova matches. Atleast this way we're almost assured of 6 YEC-quality matches.

And then 6 Challenger-quality matches. :)

Joana
Oct 26th, 2009, 01:27 AM
If you are looking at who has been crap since Wimbledon, the Williams sisters have been running Safina pretty close. It has only because Serena has been slightly less crap that she regained the No 1 ranking. I can't think of a time in the last 30 years when none of the top 3 have managed to win a single tournament in a 2 month period, unfortunately they didn't put this new low stat in the Notes and Netcords this week.

This YEC is a joke because the top 8 are a joke. The fact is that only 8 out of over 50 tour events have been won by the top seed, which just goes to show how poorly the top players have performed over the year. I would expect Jelena Jankovic to win this event and then lose 1r in the Australian Open if this year's meaningless string of results is to continue, whereas Serena and Safina will both lose in the round robin section; the one who ends up with the year end ranking will be the one who loses less matches at this stage.

This sums it up perfectly.

DragonFlame
Oct 26th, 2009, 01:29 AM
Only the fall season?. This season blew from Melbourne to Moscow. I'm happy its almost over too.

I took the fall-season because i feel like it's the rotten cherry on top of the burned cake. :o The wtamanagement has had a great deal of influance in this, if there's 1 part of the season i can totally give fault to their shitty calendar and managerial mistakes it's the removal of the indoor season. The sentiment players had with those tournaments was 10 times higher then what they feel for this new asiatour. At least there were players that wanted to perform then.
The asiaseason has not hit it's points at all, tokio and beijing were the biggest flukes of the season. Wta should have never removed the indoorseason but built on the asia season during spring. And i blame them for this.

This is by far the worst season in the 2000's quality wise as well as entertainmentwise. It's worse then 2008, which i think we all find a more then questionable season. Wta has a lot of changing to do, in which the 2010 calendar doesn't bring ANY promise. Who are they fooling here:

"The Roadmap, featuring the most sweeping reforms in Tour history, has delivered to fans and sponsors a more fan-friendly and healthier structure that to date has more consistently delivered stars to top events and significantly reduced player withdrawals."
:help: how can you try to manipulate stats more. I'd like them to show how many topplayers lost early in events compared to last year. Then lets see if the structure was healthy and fan friendly. They delivered nothing this year.

"With the Roadmap reforms implemented in 2009, fans have had the opportunity to watch more stars and rivalries on the game’s biggest stages, and follow a shortened and streamlined season that has been successful in unlocking the full value of women’s tennis."More rivalries? :lol: I certainly didn't see them. The only thing i would call a rivalry was serena-elena. Other then that i didn't see anything, just different topplayers battling eachother every week because no one could perform consistently. They unlocked the same value as a fat person thinking he will lose weight from drinking diet-coke. :o

Stacey Allestar: “I am very proud of the fact that despite a worldwide recession, we have been able to achieve modest growth."
I'd need to see a lot of balance sheets, attendance records, and tv ratings before i'd ever believe something like this. The only reason i can think of how they manipulated this and came up with these stats is because of the increase in men/woman combined events. That could be the reason, i can pull growth out of my ass too taking those visitors into account. :lol:

youizahoe
Oct 26th, 2009, 01:32 AM
And then 6 Challenger-quality matches. :)

you meant amateur.

LeonHart
Oct 26th, 2009, 01:34 AM
I LOVE IT!!!! Go Wozniacki!!!

Miss Amor
Oct 26th, 2009, 01:34 AM
Cannot believe that we have to rely on Jankovic and Azarenka to save the WTA :tape:

Mightymirza
Oct 26th, 2009, 01:37 AM
Lol Jeca is gonna win matches :tape: :lol:

The Kaz
Oct 26th, 2009, 01:39 AM
you meant amateur.

And you think the way Venus and Serena have been playing lately has been better? :spit:

Vee is hot mess and Rena only cares about slams tourneys, unless its an excuse to start a fight with someone :p

I would not be surprised (and would be ecstatic) if Sveta and LenaD topped the Maroon group :D

Slutiana
Oct 26th, 2009, 01:53 AM
you meant amateur.
Or even beginner. :lol:

ys
Oct 26th, 2009, 01:56 AM
Very fair draw. One group has everyone of significance, the other - everyone of insignificance.

Slutiana
Oct 26th, 2009, 01:58 AM
And you think the way Venus and Serena have been playing lately has been better? :spit:

Vee is hot mess and Rena only cares about slams tourneys, unless its an excuse to start a fight with someone :p

I would not be surprised (and would be ecstatic) if Sveta and LenaD topped the Maroon group :D

Please. How many times in their careers have they been playing crap and yet come away with the title? The bottom line is, EVERYONE has been crap this year but this group has the best players on paper AND in ability (apart from JJ being arguably better than Demented - ARGUABLY) and if they were to turn up then those four woul have bee the hot favourites to contest the SFs.

AcesHigh
Oct 26th, 2009, 02:01 AM
At first glance, I thought they were terrible.

However....

Serena is holding 0 WTA titles currently and when was the last time she did well at YEC? 2004?
Kuznetsova, aside from clay and Beijing has been abysmal and shouldnt be expected to do well.
Dementieva has such a poor history at YEC and this year hasn't been too great either.
Venus had a subpar year and is coming in on some very dreadful results.

The reason people think it's so imbalanced is because of the potential of these players. If they all were playing to their potential, the groups would be insanely unfair.

But... aside from Kuznetsova, who has to be one of the biggest headcases around, there's no one coming in on great form. We all know that Venus, Serena, Dementieva and Kuznetsova have tons more talent, athleticism and skill.. but they havent played like it this year.
If you're just looking at this year.. the groups are fairly even...

...why?
Because all of the top players have played like crap this year...definitely this fall.
So let's all stop bitching and moaning and pray for some good matches.

SAISAI-GOAT
Oct 26th, 2009, 02:01 AM
"The Roadmap, featuring the most sweeping reforms in Tour history, has delivered to fans and sponsors a more fan-friendly and healthier structure that to date has more consistently delivered stars to top events and significantly reduced player withdrawals."
:help: how can you try to manipulate stats more. I'd like them to show how many topplayers lost early in events compared to last year. Then lets see if the structure was healthy and fan friendly. They delivered nothing this year.

"With the Roadmap reforms implemented in 2009, fans have had the opportunity to watch more stars and rivalries on the game’s biggest stages, and follow a shortened and streamlined season that has been successful in unlocking the full value of women’s tennis."More rivalries? :lol: I certainly didn't see them. The only thing i would call a rivalry was serena-elena. Other then that i didn't see anything, just different topplayers battling eachother every week because no one could perform consistently. They unlocked the same value as a fat person thinking he will lose weight from drinking diet-coke. :o

Stacey Allestar: “I am very proud of the fact that despite a worldwide recession, we have been able to achieve modest growth."
I'd need to see a lot of balance sheets, attendance records, and tv ratings before i'd ever believe something like this. The only reason i can think of how they manipulated this and came up with these stats is because of the increase in men/woman combined events. That could be the reason, i can pull growth out of my ass too taking those visitors into account. :lol:

:rolls: I love how you pick apart their quotes / statements
this season has been a disaster :help: top players lose early at the Premier events :tape: no fans in the stands :tape: stupid tournaments like Bali :spit:

SAISAI-GOAT
Oct 26th, 2009, 02:02 AM
of course fans of Catfina and Pushniacki like the draw :rolls:

Patrick345
Oct 26th, 2009, 02:18 AM
Great, lets but the slumping players in one group(Altough I like Jelena's chances) and lets but the most accomplished and dangerous ones in the other cause that will just be great for Wta tennis!!! This is an utter joke, very dissapointed!!!!

Almost all are slumping.

Post USO

Venus Williams 1-2
Serena Williams 2-1
Dementieva 3-2
Kuznetsova 6-1


Safina 1-2
Wozniacki 3-4
Jankovic 6-3
Azarenka 3-2

:help::help:

faboozadoo15
Oct 26th, 2009, 02:40 AM
:tape: At 6-3 Jelena has the second best record since the open. wow.

miffedmax
Oct 26th, 2009, 02:45 AM
Dragonflame, my suspicion is that with the new venues and redesignations of events, they created "modest growth" because their sponsors bought up blocks of tickets, but I would also guess that actual attendance was down. Of course they'll never release the real figures. They'll just natter about sales. But even fatcats getting free tickets as part of their compensation aren't even showing up.

Everything I've seen says the TV ratings are taking it on the chin, so I don't know where the idea of "growth" is coming from.

What a load of crap. At this point the only reason I'm tuning in is in hopes that Lena's grown her bangs back.