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AnomyBC
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:08 PM
So that we know who's going to Doha and we pretty much know who the 10 direct entries into Bali are going to be, it's time to guess who the 2 Bali Wild Cards will go to. Here's what we know so far:

Players Going to Doha
Safina, Serena, Kuznetsova, Wozniacki, Dementieva, Azarenka, Venus and Jankovic.

Players Definitely Going to Bali
Bartoli, Stosur, Wickmayer, Medina Garrigues, Martinez Sanchez, Peer (assuming she gets her visa!), Czink, Szavay and Rezai.

Qualified But Supposedly Not Playing
Zvonareva

Playing if Zvonareva Doesn't
Rybarikova

Players Unavailable Due to Fed Cup
Pennetta, Schiavone, Errani, Vinci

Names That Have Been Tossed Around as Possible Bali Wild Cards
Clijsters, Sharapova, Schnyder, Hantuchova, Mauresmo, Lisicki, Date-Krumm.
Note: Clijsters has said she won't play and Sharapova will only play "with conditions". Schnyder won Bali last year and Hantuchova was a Semifinalist. Mauresmo, Lisicki and Date-Krumm where some notable players who won titles this year.

Other High Ranked Players
Radwanska, Ivanovic, Li, Petrova, Razzano, Vesnina, Cibulkova, Kleybanova, K. Bondarenko, Pavlyuchenkova, etc.

So based on this, who do you guys think the 2 Wild Cards will go to? I actually have no clue myself, which is part of why I ask the question :)

frenchie
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:10 PM
What I want : Date Krumm and Schnyder

Mynarco
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:12 PM
I am not sure if Zvonareva would be able to get anything from Doha.

Jose.
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:12 PM
Vesnina and Lisicki :hearts:

AnomyBC
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:14 PM
Wow. I actually spelled Kournikova's name wrong in the poll. That's the last player who's name I'd have ever thought I'd mess up :lol:

Ferg
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:15 PM
Dani and Patty im guessing, as Dani has already been offered one, Patty has always played Bali and been a supporter of it. Maria was offered one but some poster on the qualification thread said the tournament said she'd only go with 'conditions.' :lol:

M.P
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:15 PM
Li & Lisciki please!

José Morgado
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:16 PM
Ana rejected a wild card to Bali. Sharapova too.

frenchie
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:16 PM
fuck Sharapova and her "conditions"

chuvack
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:18 PM
Schnyder is a lock to get one of the Bali WCs.

The only question is who gets the other one. They don't want to pay an appearance fee, so it won't be Sharapova or Clisters or Mauresmo or Ivanovic.

Can somebody summarize the rules of which players receive direct entry? I am confused.

MBM
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:20 PM
What I want : Date Krumm and Schnyder

ditto. it's likely that patty will get one

DiscoStick
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:28 PM
Danka, Sabine/Patty

MH0861
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:28 PM
Kirilenko! The ultimate MM Queen should be the champion of them :rocker2:

FrOzon
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:30 PM
Nothing against Patty but I'd prefer giving the WCs to young players.

Yorker
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:31 PM
Dani and Patty im guessing, as Dani has already been offered one, Patty has always played Bali and been a supporter of it. Maria was offered one but some poster on the qualification thread said the tournament said she'd only go with 'conditions.' :lol:


How do you know dani was offered one out of curiosity

Tanja8
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:33 PM
I think it should be given to players who won bigger tournaments and have not qualified for Doha.
That means Šarapova, Clijsters, Schiavone, Mauresmo, Lisicki, Dulgheru. If Šarapova and Clijsters doesn`t want to come - then Schiavone and Mauresmo as players with the higher rank.
I can see why Clijsters is not interested (long travel, child, etc.)... but Šarapova? With 600 points from Bali she would finish the year as top 10 player!

MH0861
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:33 PM
If MK can't come, I hope Bali Queen Lindsay Davenport makes a surprise return to the tour here with a WC :rocker2:

Feyd
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:34 PM
I think it should be given to players who won bigger tournaments and have not qualified for Doha.
That means Šarapova, Clijsters, Schiavone, Mauresmo, Lisicki, Dulgheru. If Šarapova and Clijsters doesn`t want to come - then Schiavone and Mauresmo as players with the higher rank.
I can see why Clijsters is not interested (long travel, child, etc.)... but Šarapova? With 600 points from Bali she would finish the year as top 10 player!

That's probably the reason she does not want to play. She will have to follow the roadmap next year if she ends up tenth.

AnomyBC
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:36 PM
I think it should be given to players who won bigger tournaments and have not qualified for Doha.
That means Šarapova, Clijsters, Schiavone, Mauresmo, Lisicki, Dulgheru. If Šarapova and Clijsters doesn`t want to come - then Schiavone and Mauresmo as players with the higher rank.
I can see why Clijsters is not interested (long travel, child, etc.)... but Šarapova? With 600 points from Bali she would finish the year as top 10 player!

As far as I know, Schiavone, like Pennetta, is not available because she's playing Fed Cup. And yeah, I agree that Sharapova would be silly to pass up a wild card offer.

Protoss
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:44 PM
Isn't Bali beneath Sharapova?

Tanja8
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:44 PM
As far as I know, Schiavone, like Pennetta, is not available because she's playing Fed Cup. And yeah, I agree that Sharapova would be silly to pass up a wild card offer.
You`re right ... I forgot about Fed cup.
Mauresmo and Lisicki then.

faboozadoo15
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:44 PM
That's probably the reason she does not want to play. She will have to follow the roadmap next year if she ends up tenth.

It has to do with year end rankings only? She'll be in the top 10 really soon.....

Ferg
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:47 PM
How do you know dani was offered one out of curiosity

Its what someone on the qualification thread said.

Feyd
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:47 PM
It has to do with year end rankings only? She'll be in the top 10 really soon.....

Yep, top ten commitments are set according to the year end rankings.

Tanja8
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:49 PM
I doubt Šarapova would mind being able to play only 2 MM a year.;)
What else? Best 2 out of 5 Premier5? I`m sure she will do well at least two tournaments out of Dubaj, Rome, Cincinnati, Toronto, Tokio.

madmax
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:51 PM
Still hoping Masha will agree to play and take those 600 points...

Feyd
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:52 PM
I doubt Šarapova would mind being able to play only 2 MM a year.;)
What else? Best 2 out of 5 Premier5? I`m sure she will do well at least two tournaments out of Dubaj, Rome, Cincinnati, Toronto, Tokio.

She would have to play 4 out of 5 Premier 5s, 2 Premiers + 4 Premier Mandatories + 4 Slams.
She would have to play Dubai, Rome and Cincinati next year. She is even playing Memphis next year instead of Dubai and skipped Cincinnati this year, it looks like she does not want to be a roadmap player.

Vartan
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:54 PM
Same.

Emiel Goelen
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:55 PM
I'm guessing Patty will get one. Not sure about the other one. I think Sabine has a big chance, although they might choose an Asian too.

Yorker
Oct 25th, 2009, 07:00 PM
yeah i guess dani confirmed it she was offered a wildcard on slovak media

Graf~Dokic
Oct 25th, 2009, 07:05 PM
I hope Sabine Lisicki will get one. She would have deserved one since she won Charleston. ;)

cn ireland
Oct 25th, 2009, 07:05 PM
Lisicki & Date-Krumm

Vartan
Oct 25th, 2009, 07:11 PM
What are her conditions?

frenchie
Oct 25th, 2009, 07:13 PM
yeah i guess dani confirmed it she was offered a wildcard on slovak media

really?
Congrats I guess:lick:

Yorker
Oct 25th, 2009, 07:15 PM
really?
Congrats I guess:lick:


she said it was a 50/50 decision so idk, i was kinda surprised to see she was offered one.

frenchie
Oct 25th, 2009, 07:17 PM
[QUOTE=Yorker;

She should really take it
Bali offers points, $$ and great facilities

Dani should play and stay there the following week as a vacation

Richie's
Oct 25th, 2009, 07:21 PM
daniela will decide tomorrow if she will play there or not!

young_gunner913
Oct 25th, 2009, 07:23 PM
Kimiko :D

doujyr
Oct 25th, 2009, 07:26 PM
Patty as last year's champion, plus and Asian player, maybe Na Li

Caipirinha Guy
Oct 25th, 2009, 07:27 PM
Radwanska will not. She has a surgery after Dauha and even her Australian Open performance is doubtful.

doujyr
Oct 25th, 2009, 07:28 PM
That's probably the reason she does not want to play. She will have to follow the roadmap next year if she ends up tenth.


That's a shokcing commentary on the roadmap if it's true :sad:

Dawson.
Oct 25th, 2009, 07:29 PM
If they stand by their tagline of 'future champions', Patty and many others featured in the list shoud not get one. I'd like to see Lisicki and Pavlyuchenkova get one (but the latter is very wishful thinking :lol:)

WhoAmI?
Oct 25th, 2009, 07:53 PM
If it's true Patty gets one, then the other one should go to someone younger Lisicki, Oudin, Pavlyuchenkova..

AnomyBC
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:03 PM
What are her conditions?

Sharapova's? It's interesting you ask that, because I just found this list on the internet:

Maria Sharapova's Conditions for Playing Bali

1. All serving must be done underhand
2. All of Maria's matches must be broadcast on ESPN and all practice sessions must be broadcast on Tennis Channel
3. Maria's bags must be carried around by attractive Indonesian female wearing grass skirt and seashell bikini
4. Tournament must be renamed Commonwealth Bank Tournament of Champions featuring Maria Sharapova
5. Women's locker room must have communal showers which must be used by both the players and the ballgirls
6. No Maroon 5 songs can be played during the tournament
7. During matches all television cameras must remain pointed at Maria
8. Fans must be limited to no more than 100 upskirt/cleavage pictures per match
9. Dulce must get free doggy treats
10. If Maria does not win the tournament the fact that she played there must be erased from the record books and never mentioned by anyone

Wow, interesting stuff! It will be interesting to see if the tournament agrees to all of that :eek:

Vartan
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:09 PM
I would.

AnomyBC
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:20 PM
I would.

You'd agree to that to get Maria to play? Yeah, me too :)

danieln1
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:33 PM
I want Hantuchova and Date Krumm...

Justin SW
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:33 PM
maybe Wozniak :lol:

powerbackhand
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:50 PM
dokic

Gilardino
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:53 PM
Kournikova :inlove:

Shvedbarilescu
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:02 PM
I want Hantuchova and Date Krumm...

Seconded. :yeah:

Wiggly
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:06 PM
Even if it's weird that winning Charleston or someting doesn't get you into Bali but Tasckhent does, the goal of Bali is to support the International series.

They should do a International race next year.

NA-GOAT
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:27 PM
Na Li (need Asian player) ... if not Na, then Shuai Peng or Kimiko Date

Maria Sharapova (nice, but too many conditions)

Maria Kirilenko (former Mini Mouse Queen)

FORZA SARITA
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:37 PM
give them to Na & Peng :inlove: they totally deserve them :D

Ferg
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:39 PM
Golden Flowers turn Mini Mouse tournie into Mega Mouse tournie :hearts: Bad threads will be replaced by Golden Bali threads.

Buitenzorg
Oct 25th, 2009, 11:03 PM
Hantuchova, Mauresmo or Lisicki :)

Daszmarelli
Oct 25th, 2009, 11:06 PM
Lisick wants one, she sayd on her blog on WTA website.

I hope Dani and an asian player, maybe Li, Sania or Krumm.

iPatty
Oct 25th, 2009, 11:21 PM
I was thinking it would be Schnyder and Date-Krumm so I'm surprised to see Hantuchova was offered one.

schorsch
Oct 25th, 2009, 11:32 PM
Vesnina I think kind of let it slip that it would be Hantuchova and Cirstea, so Daniela got one, but we don't know if Sori is healthy enough to go there...

PMRD44
Oct 25th, 2009, 11:52 PM
I'm guessing that Hantuchova got one because she's the only big name player who has gone to Bali the last two years.

NyCPsU
Oct 26th, 2009, 12:19 AM
Wow. I am surprised Daniela was offered one, but maybe it has something to do with the promotion she helped the wta tour do for Bali :shrug:

ewbangkok
Oct 26th, 2009, 12:30 AM
should be awarded to asians player... Date Krumm and Tanasugarn

Keegan
Oct 26th, 2009, 12:37 AM
Sharapova and Lisicki.

Rising Sun
Oct 26th, 2009, 12:48 AM
No surprise Dani was offered one. It's all about the marketability.

Roookie
Oct 26th, 2009, 12:49 AM
daniela will decide tomorrow if she will play there or not!

They struggling convincing Hantuchova to play Bali? :help:. No offence but giving her a WC is a bad decision. Force her to win a damn title.

Golindz
Oct 26th, 2009, 01:41 AM
Golden Flowers turn Mini Mouse tournie into Mega Mouse tournie :hearts: Bad threads will be replaced by Golden Bali threads.
:haha:

JPA
Oct 26th, 2009, 02:28 AM
Slightly suprised Daniela was offered a WC, i guess she is a long supporter of the event, was pretty successful there, is a marketable player and launched the event at a press conference last yr. Schnyder deserves the other WC because she is the defending champion and has also been a long supporter of the event. Although I wouldn't be suprised if Sabine, Li or Date-Krumm were offered the other WC.

Wiggly
Oct 26th, 2009, 02:33 AM
Is the Hantuchova WC confirmed? Source?

Looks more of a 50-50 "guess" than anything.

illusyve
Oct 26th, 2009, 02:38 AM
Golden Flowers turn Mini Mouse tournie into Mega Mouse tournie :hearts: Bad threads will be replaced by Golden Bali threads.

:lol:

Hantuchova and Lisicki please.

danieln1
Oct 26th, 2009, 02:56 AM
Why people are saying Daniela got one WC???? Where is this??

CuteKoala
Oct 26th, 2009, 02:59 AM
My vote goes to Lisicki although she played very badly yesterday. :o

hellas719
Oct 26th, 2009, 03:09 AM
I think: Schnyder and Hantuchova
I want: Lisicki and Vesnina

JPA
Oct 26th, 2009, 03:12 AM
Is the Hantuchova WC confirmed? Source?

Looks more of a 50-50 "guess" than anything.

Why people are saying Daniela got one WC???? Where is this??


Here is the link to the Slovak article which says that Daniela received a WC to Bali and is deciding whether to accept it, it includes a quote by Daniela.
http://aktualne.centrum.sk/sport/tenis/clanek.phtml?id=1193764

Here is the Google translation into english of the relevant part of the Slovak article :) :

"Luxembourg - Daniel Hantuchova Slovakian tennis player offered organizers of the November tournament champions on the Indonesian island of Bali, a free card.

Zverenka Brazilian coach Larriho Passos weight but whether it will use, after a long and difficult season would in fact have little Council leisure. Hantuchova has two days of reflection.

"I have to decide by Monday whether or not to accept it. For I have great memories of Bali, two years ago, I was there in the finals, the semifinals last year. There is a beautiful environment, but the season was very long and very personally, I would prefer to play the real Masters in Doha. Indonesia is also very far away and I begin to think to leave. We'll see how to finally decide, does not know. It's 50:50, "Hantuchova said after losing 2:6, 6:7 (4 ) with Israeli Shahar Pe'er in the WTA tournament quarter-finals in Luxembourg."

tennisforadults
Oct 26th, 2009, 03:18 AM
Sorry Daniela fans, she doesn't quite deserve the WC based on her performances this year. Notable 4th round appearances at Wimby and USO but no titles!!!

I think the WCs should go to Sharapova and Lisicki. Good rankings and they both won bigger titles this season.

Vartan
Oct 26th, 2009, 03:41 AM
Sharapova & Lisicki please.

In The Zone
Oct 26th, 2009, 03:46 AM
:lol: @ Daniela. "I would prefer to play the real masters in Doha." Then play better!

shirgan
Oct 26th, 2009, 04:08 AM
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shirgan
Oct 26th, 2009, 04:12 AM
Its what someone on the qualification thread said.
this is what I wrote in the other thread:

according to the jakartapost:

"We have received a long list of players requesting wild cards," Livesey (Bali tournament director) said, mentioning names of defending champion Patty Schnyder, last year's participants Daniela Hantuchova and Li Na as well as the Hansol Korea Open winner Kimiko Date Krumm and Family Circle Cup champion Sabine Lisicki.

Although Belgian Kim Clijsters previously intended to get a wild card for Bali, her successful comeback at the US Open has changed her mind as she is now eyeing a spot in the Australian Open.

Russian Maria Sharapova and Serbian Anna Ivanovic were also offered wild cards, however, Livesey said: "It's a long shot. Her *Sharapova's* agent asked me to keep a wild card for her. But, there were significant conditions to it."

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/10/13/wickmayer-garrigues-set-play-bali.html

Drake1980
Oct 26th, 2009, 04:59 AM
Hopefully Date! :D

tennisplayer
Oct 26th, 2009, 04:09 PM
who do you think will get one?


schnyder? hantuchova?



did hantuchova confirm yet she is playin?

Ferg
Oct 26th, 2009, 04:13 PM
Well, they're announced tomorrow thank god. I guess that means Dani accepted.

mk27
Oct 26th, 2009, 04:19 PM
WC's for a season ending tournament :spit:

WTA is getting more and more pathetic :rolleyes:

tennisplayer
Oct 26th, 2009, 04:21 PM
did dani accept now ? is schnyder the 2nd wc?

Wiggly
Oct 26th, 2009, 04:26 PM
Why would they offer WCs to Maria and Ana?
They played only one International tournament.

°°°VaMoS RaFa°°°
Oct 26th, 2009, 06:01 PM
I don't think they will offer one to Amélie... She has finished the season already and as much as I like her I think at this time other players deserve one more

I think Sabine or Date will get the other WC.

faboozadoo15
Oct 26th, 2009, 06:45 PM
Why would they offer WCs to Maria and Ana?


What tournament wouldn't?

Aaric
Oct 26th, 2009, 08:22 PM
I do hope Maria to play Bali, but having played YEC before... not likely to happen

Svetame
Oct 26th, 2009, 08:33 PM
Even if Amélie were to decline, they should still offer her one! 2 time GS Champ and former #1 after all! If that doesn't draw in the crowds in a MM Tourney I don't know what will!

frenchie
Oct 26th, 2009, 08:35 PM
Even if Amélie were to decline, they should still offer her one! 2 time GS Champ and former #1 after all! If that doesn't draw in the crowds in a MM Tourney I don't know what will!

You're so 2 thousands and late:wavey:

Richie's
Oct 26th, 2009, 08:37 PM
Hantuchova will go to Bali :)

frenchie
Oct 26th, 2009, 08:39 PM
Hantuchova will go to Bali :)

Good decision Daniela
More points and more $$ for you!

1 WC left (for Kimiko I hope:o)

Daszmarelli
Oct 26th, 2009, 08:43 PM
Hantuchova will go to Bali :)

official?

Svetame
Oct 26th, 2009, 08:54 PM
You're so 2 thousands and late:wavey:

Huh? :confused:

Richie's
Oct 26th, 2009, 09:17 PM
official?

No. It's not official. We will know for sure Tuesday morning.
Hantuchova's coach say no but dani want to play...

4 players are waiting for 2 WC

hantuchova (offered)
schnyder (offered)
lisicki (asked)
date krumm

Ferg
Oct 26th, 2009, 09:18 PM
Im sure Patty will take it, she loves Bali.

frenchie
Oct 26th, 2009, 09:20 PM
Date Krumm please!!

winning a match there would boost her ranking

danieln1
Oct 26th, 2009, 10:08 PM
i think it would be the most ridiculous move to offer Schnyder a WC... Date Krumm deserves it much more, because she won a international event, but her ranking unfortunately prevented her from getting direct entry into the tournament, and she would get way more crowd than schnyder, something Daniela did in 2007 playing against Lindsay, one of the reasons they give Daniela a WC...

Dawson.
Oct 26th, 2009, 10:34 PM
Masters for the games future champions indeed :tape: The 3 main candidates are aged 26, 31 & 39 :spit: :rolls:

AmeDevotee
Oct 26th, 2009, 10:37 PM
Even if Amélie were to decline, they should still offer her one! 2 time GS Champ and former #1 after all! If that doesn't draw in the crowds in a MM Tourney I don't know what will!

Of course it would. :cool:

Maybe she's already been asked. But since she's pondering her future at the moment, she would have declined. :( :shrug:

Svetame
Oct 26th, 2009, 10:40 PM
Of course it would. :cool:

Maybe she's already been asked. But since she's pondering her future at the moment, she would have declined. :( :shrug:

But surely a win in a YEC (not THE YEC, but still) would prove to her she's still in a completely different league to these players?! :sad:

Yorker
Oct 26th, 2009, 10:43 PM
But surely a win in a YEC (not THE YEC, but still) would prove to her she's still in a completely different league to these players?! :sad:


she's already contemplating retirement, if she were to go and lose you could basically seal the deal on her retirement. it would not be good for her to go play when she's struggling to even want to be on the court, trust me, let her think.

AmeDevotee
Oct 26th, 2009, 10:49 PM
she's already contemplating retirement, if she were to go and lose you could basically seal the deal on her retirement. it would not be good for her to go play when she's struggling to even want to be on the court, trust me, let her think.

I agree with this. Although I'd love to see her play another tourney this year, it would probably be counterproductive. She does need time to think. :)

Daszmarelli
Oct 26th, 2009, 10:50 PM
no russian in Bali :o It's really a MM tourney

Feyd
Oct 26th, 2009, 10:56 PM
Hantuchova, Schnyder :o . What a waste of wildcards!

FrOzon
Oct 26th, 2009, 11:09 PM
Hantuchova, Schnyder :o . What a waste of wildcards!

Absolutely!

NA-GOAT
Oct 26th, 2009, 11:15 PM
What, no Asian players at this event :sobbing:

Ferg
Oct 26th, 2009, 11:30 PM
Im happy Patty got one, she deserves it and its payback from the tournament from all the appearances and support shes given it. Dani is token glamour pick.

no russian in Bali It's really a MM tourney

What the hell were you expecting? :spit: They wouldnt take Sharapovas apparent diva conditions and Kirlienko is even less high profile then Dani, no matter how much of a MM queen she is. You're acting just like Na_Goat.

Daszmarelli
Oct 26th, 2009, 11:55 PM
I don't know who exactly, I just meant all tournaments has a russian player and in this event there isn't any russian playing. I just was joking

Linnie
Oct 26th, 2009, 11:56 PM
Hantuchova, Schnyder :o . What a waste of wildcards!
First of all, I thought this so-called "championship" was only for International tournament WINNERS, not to mention "up and coming" players. I also thought this is a completely different tournament than the Bali tournaments of years past. So how come they gave wildcards to two players who 1) never came close to winning a tournament this year and 2) who are waaay far from being "up and coming" players? :tape: Wouldn't it have made sense (not to mention being fair) to have the next highest-ranked player who actually busted their behinds to win a tournament play this thing??

Way to go, WTA :weirdo:

Daszmarelli
Oct 27th, 2009, 12:02 AM
^^^^ Yeah I agree. I prefer a WC to Vera Dushevina and Krumm

Noctis
Oct 27th, 2009, 12:09 AM
Patty denie that WC plz LOL

joyforall
Oct 27th, 2009, 12:26 AM
Hantuchova, Schnyder :o . What a waste of wildcards!

is this for sure? i can't find any source on this one.

Mynarco
Oct 27th, 2009, 12:40 AM
Please, tell me the wc don't go to Dani and Schnyder :sobbing:

delicatecutter
Oct 27th, 2009, 12:44 AM
Schnyder DID make the Budapest final at least. But cripes, she's even older than I am. :o Lisicki at least actually won an event and made the final of an International.

Hantuchova has no business being in this tournament.

PMRD44
Oct 27th, 2009, 01:23 AM
According to Slovak media, Hantuchova turned down the wild card.

danieln1
Oct 27th, 2009, 01:28 AM
According to Slovak media, Hantuchova turned down the wild card.

:haha: :haha: :haha:

This is becoming a circus

tkrisz
Oct 27th, 2009, 02:07 AM
True, found it:

http://sportky.topky.sk/c/37315/hantuchova-odmietla-volnu-kartu-je-ucestovana

Google Translate:

BRATISLAVA - Slovak tennis player Daniela Hantuchova after careful consideration of all circumstances, ultimately does not use the free card to participate in events CommonwealthBank Tournament of Champions to be held on the Indonesian island of Bali.

"It is true that the tournament director has offered me the card and it was only for me, as I choose. Been very proud and appreciate the invitation just for this event in beautiful surroundings, which I have wonderful memories - because I had played well in the finals, but decided I reject the card, given that my tennis year was very long and I ucestovaná. Rather, I will prefer leisure. I need to properly recover and then are gradually begin preparing for next season, "said D. Hantuchova.

drake3781
Oct 27th, 2009, 02:11 AM
I read five pages and still do not see who got the WCs. :sobbing:

kfh_9118
Oct 27th, 2009, 02:20 AM
Lisicki should be given a WC, I hope they come to their sense to offer her one, now Daniela has rejected the WC.

Patty got the WC :help: I hope this is not true. If they don't want to go with the "upcoming" player, then they should give the WC to Kimiko instead of Patty :o

NA-GOAT
Oct 27th, 2009, 02:53 AM
Daniela :spit:

please give it to Na now :bigcry:

The Kaz
Oct 27th, 2009, 03:42 AM
Daniela :spit:

please give it to Na now :bigcry:

Like she deserves it...not :weirdo:

TheBoiledEgg
Oct 27th, 2009, 04:36 AM
:lol: giving WC to :silly: its makes Bali organisers :weirdo:

Pasta-Na
Oct 27th, 2009, 04:37 AM
:lol: giving WC to :silly: its makes Bali organisers :weirdo:

patty's hairs sexy. :fiery: :p

Привет
Oct 27th, 2009, 07:31 AM
A pretty smart decision from Dani. :) She didn't qualify and so she wouldn't have been expecting to play another tournament. It'd be tough to go play another tournament, even in beautiful Bali, when you've already switched off your competitive brain for the year.

I'd love to see them offer this WC to Date-Krumm now, but if not her then it should rightly go to the next highest who actually won one of these tournaments. :lol:

Julian.
Oct 27th, 2009, 07:48 AM
I heard they are trying to persuade Angelique Widjaja and Wynne Prakusya to take the 2 WCs. :unsure::spit:

Noctis
Oct 27th, 2009, 08:31 AM
Give it to Kimiko simple

itzhak
Oct 27th, 2009, 08:55 AM
The problem is that this tournament is in the end of the world. If the tournament was somewhere in Europe (Zurich for example), I can sure you that Daniela ot other players who offered WC's would play without doubt. There are many points to get here and it is nice idea but to fly to Bali after long season is not something that many players love to do.....

Vanity Bonfire
Oct 27th, 2009, 09:23 AM
The biggest career boost Dani's had this year has been posing for Sports Illustrated.

tennisforadults
Oct 27th, 2009, 09:44 AM
The problem is that this tournament is in the end of the world. If the tournament was somewhere in Europe (Zurich for example), I can sure you that Daniela ot other players who offered WC's would play without doubt. There are many points to get here and it is nice idea but to fly to Bali after long season is not something that many players love to do.....

The world doesn't just revolve around Europe and North America. Bali is really not that far away. If Bali is the end of the world, what's New Zealand?

Besides, these players are professional jet-setters. Someone like Daniela who has been on the tour so long would be used to the grind of travelling to cities all around the globe. If she chooses to rest, maybe it's just that... not the fault of the location.

Julian.
Oct 27th, 2009, 10:17 AM
The problem is that this tournament is in the end of the world. If the tournament was somewhere in Europe (Zurich for example), I can sure you that Daniela ot other players who offered WC's would play without doubt. There are many points to get here and it is nice idea but to fly to Bali after long season is not something that many players love to do.....

Bali isn't in the end of the world. :rolleyes:

DiscoStick
Oct 27th, 2009, 10:17 AM
BTW, Dani is not playing, it's official

Matt01
Oct 27th, 2009, 10:18 AM
The world doesn't just revolve around Europe and North America. Bali is really not that far away.


LOL...no, from Slovakia to Bali it's really not that far :rolleyes:

Daniel
Oct 27th, 2009, 11:25 AM
Dushevina should get a WC :hearts:

Привет
Oct 27th, 2009, 11:29 AM
:spit: @ people thinking it's too far to travel to Bali.

Really? Tennis fans thinking that travel is a problem? :confused: You do realise that players travel all over the world all year round, don't you? They don't just wiggle their noses and *BING* they're at their next tournament.

itzhak
Oct 27th, 2009, 11:40 AM
Didn't people really read what I wrote? I spoke about flying in THE END OF LONG SEASON to place like Bali. this is long trip, 9 of 10 players are european. if it was in Europe, Kim would play, she doesn't want to make long trip right now. Nothing against Bali, it is just problematic location for most of the players at this stage of the season.

The Kaz
Oct 27th, 2009, 12:12 PM
:spit: @ people thinking it's too far to travel to Bali.

Really? Tennis fans thinking that travel is a problem? :confused: You do realise that players travel all over the world all year round, don't you? They don't just wiggle their noses and *BING* they're at their next tournament.

:confused: That whole post contradicts itself ;)

TS
Oct 27th, 2009, 12:15 PM
So Hantuchova has rejected a WC? Good. I hope Schnyder is not offered one either. TO have either of them here would defeat the purpose of holding a tournament of 'champions' in the first place :rolleyes:

The wildcards should go to players who have won titles this year.

The Kaz
Oct 27th, 2009, 12:16 PM
Didn't people really read what I wrote? I spoke about flying in THE END OF LONG SEASON to place like Bali. this is long trip, 9 of 10 players are european. if it was in Europe, Kim would play, she doesn't want to make long trip right now. Nothing against Bali, it is just problematic location for most of the players at this stage of the season.

And again we will tell you that Europe is NOT the centre of the world.

If the players can't travel 14 hours to Bali then the organisers shouldnt want them anyway.

Think of the non-europeans players for a change...like Sam and the other Aussies who probably travel WAY more than any European or American player to tournaments and yet still go to all their required tournaments without complaint.

I love Kim but she annoys me because when comes to travel, she can be very very lazy...(this also occurred before she had a baby so do use that excuse ;)) heck id love to go to Bali for a week, play tennis and get paid for it!

tennisplayer
Oct 27th, 2009, 12:46 PM
when are the wc announced?

Daszmarelli
Oct 27th, 2009, 12:46 PM
The wildcards should go to players who have won titles this year.

:yeah:

Matt01
Oct 27th, 2009, 12:50 PM
And again we will tell you that Europe is NOT the centre of the world.



Who said it is? :rolleyes:

Fact is that the majority of the Top Players are European. And for some of them, as it was already said, it may be not that easy to fly from Europe to Bali at the end of a long season for just one tournament. Of course Asian and Australian players for example have that problem, too, to a certain extent. But when they play tournaments in Europe like at RG and a few weeks later Wimbeldon they usually stay in Europe for several weeks to play several tournaments in a row and don't fly back to home just for a few days inbetween.

The Kaz
Oct 27th, 2009, 01:05 PM
Who said it is? :rolleyes:

The problem is that this tournament is in the end of the world. If the tournament was somewhere in Europe (Zurich for example), I can sure you that Daniela ot other players who offered WC's would play without doubt. There are many points to get here and it is nice idea but to fly to Bali after long season is not something that many players love to do.....

And in response.

The world doesn't just revolve around Europe and North America. Bali is really not that far away. If Bali is the end of the world, what's New Zealand?

Besides, these players are professional jet-setters. Someone like Daniela who has been on the tour so long would be used to the grind of travelling to cities all around the globe. If she chooses to rest, maybe it's just that... not the fault of the location.

__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________

Fact is that the majority of the Top Players are European.

Fact is that statement is irrelevant cos tennis is a GLOBAL sport and not merely a EUROPEAN one.

Of course Asian and Australian players for example have that problem, too, to a certain extent. But when they play tournaments in Europe like at RG and a few weeks later Wimbeldon they usually stay in Europe for several weeks to play several tournaments in a row and don't fly back to home just for a few days inbetween.

Not necessarily ;)

Ferg
Oct 27th, 2009, 01:13 PM
Well, seeing as Dani rejected it no surprise they're stalling with naming them. I suppose they'll go for Sabs now.

delicatecutter
Oct 27th, 2009, 01:18 PM
Well, seeing as Dani rejected it no surprise they're stalling with naming them. I suppose they'll go for Sabs now.

They better, if they know what's good for them. :armed:

The Kaz
Oct 27th, 2009, 01:20 PM
They better, if they know what's good for them. :armed:

:rolleyes: Grow up.

delicatecutter
Oct 27th, 2009, 01:25 PM
:rolleyes: Grow up.

:rolleyes: You are so annoying.

tennisplayer
Oct 27th, 2009, 01:25 PM
i think date krumm and schnyder. what do ya think?

Ferg
Oct 27th, 2009, 01:32 PM
Well to be fair The Kaz is right. However much i love her Sabs has no claim to this tournament, and the way some are acting is over the top. I mean, someone else talked about boycotting it in support of her, wtf?

Marionated
Oct 27th, 2009, 01:35 PM
So does Patty have a wild card or not, please?

tennisplayer
Oct 27th, 2009, 01:37 PM
so petrov who do ya think deserves the 2nd wc ?

tayyiba
Oct 27th, 2009, 01:39 PM
i hope DOMINIKA CIBULKOVA have a wild card ^^

Ferg
Oct 27th, 2009, 01:40 PM
I have no idea. But whoever will get it deserves it just as much as Sabs does (or even more if they're a International Event winner) and acting like shes entitled to it is very childish.

delicatecutter
Oct 27th, 2009, 01:40 PM
Well to be fair The Kaz is right. However much i love her Sabs has no claim to this tournament, and the way some are acting is over the top. I mean, someone else talked about boycotting it in support of her, wtf?

That was me and I will boycott it if she doesn't get the WC. She deserves it. She's an up and coming player who won a tournament this year and reached the final of an International event. No one deserves it more than her.

Ferg
Oct 27th, 2009, 01:42 PM
That was me and I will boycott it if she doesn't get the WC. She deserves it. She's an up and coming player who won a tournament this year and reached the final of an International event. No one deserves it more than her.

Not even players who have actually WON an International event this year?

delicatecutter
Oct 27th, 2009, 01:49 PM
Not even players who have actually WON an International event this year?

Bacsinszky maybe. But I think the organizers would want some star power and Lisicki is the obvious choice.

Ferg
Oct 27th, 2009, 01:52 PM
That still wouldnt mean she would deserve it above everyone else. :shrug:

delicatecutter
Oct 27th, 2009, 01:55 PM
Well if they just wanted to invite the 12 highest ranking players who had won an International event, then I wouldn't be complaining. But the WC are there for a reason. And that reason is to allow a player of Lisicki's star power and ability to play. I think she is the most deserving of a WC.

tennisplayer
Oct 27th, 2009, 02:01 PM
will it be announced today?

Michael!
Oct 27th, 2009, 02:07 PM
I am curious who gets the 2 WC´s, Hantuchova alreay said that she won´t play, dont know if it is official that Patty gets one.
I can´t say who deserves it to get a WC, but I know for sure and there is not doubt about it that both (Daniela and Patty) dont desereve a WC, and I say this as a fan of Dani and I have nothing against Patty!

Pattty had one of her worst season ever, is not even Top 40 anymore!
Daniela had a decent season, but without special wins and far away from her best shape....that the organizers of Bali offered both of them a WC is just :cuckoo:
Especially as both didnt even win a tournament this year!

Привет
Oct 27th, 2009, 02:09 PM
:confused: That whole post contradicts itself ;)

I said that it's silly to think that players would think it unreasonable to travel to Bali, and then said that players travel great distances from city to city all year round as a requirement of their profession. This makes them seasoned travellers who wouldn't think twice about having to travel to Bali if they were keen to play the tournament.

What's the contradiction? :confused:

Rising Sun
Oct 27th, 2009, 03:24 PM
I get the feeling Kimiko got a WC. She mentioned on her blog tonight that she'll let us know about her next tournament tomorrow! She already mentioned $100K+H Taipei before, so I'm thinking it might be Bali! We'll know soon enough...

Matt01
Oct 27th, 2009, 03:36 PM
That was me and I will boycott it if she doesn't get the WC. She deserves it. She's an up and coming player who won a tournament this year and reached the final of an International event. No one deserves it more than her.


Scary Lisicki fans :scared:

tennisplayer
Oct 27th, 2009, 03:57 PM
how about schnyder? is she the one of the players to get a wc?

¤CharlDa¤
Oct 27th, 2009, 04:05 PM
I think, to start with, the WC idea is just ridiculous in such a tournament.

Now that this has been said, we are stuck with those two WCs and the idea of a WC is for organizers to hand it to whoever they want. And yes, those choices can be 'wild' ;)

I think the idea to hand it to Patty, who won Bali last year, and thus didn't have a chance to defend and is a known name around there as a defending champion, isn't that bad. She isn't an upcoming player, she didn't win an International event, but she would be a decent WC (as would Daniela have been).

tim2502
Oct 27th, 2009, 04:08 PM
Kimiko will come to Taiwan.

tennisplayer
Oct 27th, 2009, 04:11 PM
so no wc for kimiko? why do you know she comes to taiwan?

Rising Sun
Oct 27th, 2009, 04:38 PM
Kimiko will come to Taiwan.
Yes, she did enter Taiwan. She also mentioned it on her blog before.

However, the tourney director mentioned that Kimiko had requested for a WC, plus she seemed like she had an announcement to make for tomorrow, on her blog tonight. We shall see. :)

Too bad the entry lists aren't showing up on the ITF site right now to see if she withdrew or not. :(

tennisplayer
Oct 27th, 2009, 04:45 PM
yes but i think she will withdraw from taiwan if she gets a wc . whats your opinion on that?

FrOzon
Oct 27th, 2009, 04:48 PM
I thought that all Bali players will be published today. That means obviously that they haven't found two WC players yet (?) :shrug:

Rising Sun
Oct 27th, 2009, 10:33 PM
yes but i think she will withdraw from taiwan if she gets a wc . whats your opinion on that?
Yes, what I meant was that if her name was withdrawn from the Taipei list, it's likely she got the Bali WC (since it hasn't been officially announced yet). It's still on the list, though. :(

Rising Sun
Oct 28th, 2009, 03:40 AM
Kimiko's blog now lists Bali as her next tourney! :eek:

http://ameblo.jp/kimiko-date

shirgan
Oct 28th, 2009, 03:46 AM
Kimiko's blog now lists Bali as her next tourney! :eek:

http://ameblo.jp/kimiko-date
sounds promising

AnomyBC
Oct 28th, 2009, 03:48 AM
Kimiko's blog now lists Bali as her next tourney! :eek:

http://ameblo.jp/kimiko-date

Craziness! I think she's actually a pretty good choice considering the apparent unwillingness of Clijsters, Sharapova and Hantuchova. Assuming she did in fact get a wild card, I think the other one will probably go to Schnyder.

Rising Sun
Oct 28th, 2009, 04:03 AM
Craziness! I think she's actually a pretty good choice considering the apparent unwillingness of Clijsters, Sharapova and Hantuchova. Assuming she did in fact get a wild card, I think the other one will probably go to Schnyder.
Yeah, I think WCs should go to players who've won MM tourneys this year but missed the cutoffs. Otherwise, it'd defeat the whole purpose of this tourney.

The Kaz
Oct 28th, 2009, 04:15 AM
I said that it's silly to think that players would think it unreasonable to travel to Bali, and then said that players travel great distances from city to city all year round as a requirement of their profession. This makes them seasoned travellers who wouldn't think twice about having to travel to Bali if they were keen to play the tournament.

What's the contradiction? :confused:

Sorry I reread the post and it makes sense :p I miss of been tired when I read that the first time :o

Golindz
Oct 28th, 2009, 04:19 AM
Kimiko :)

drake3781
Oct 28th, 2009, 06:21 AM
Kimiko's blog now lists Bali as her next tourney! :eek:

http://ameblo.jp/kimiko-date

Kimiko :)


I love having something to be truly happy about, even in a small way. :D

tennisforadults
Oct 28th, 2009, 06:25 AM
LOL...no, from Slovakia to Bali it's really not that far :rolleyes:

No, it's not. At the same time, it's relative to how seasoned a traveller you are. Slovakia to Bali will be very very far for someone who's never left Slovakia - and that's certainly not Dani.

Maybe it's an indication of how little you've travelled? (Not here to make accusations - just curious.)

Привет
Oct 28th, 2009, 06:38 AM
Sorry I reread the post and it makes sense :p I miss of been tired when I read that the first time :o

No problem.

frenchie
Oct 28th, 2009, 06:58 AM
Big YESSSSSS to Kimiko's likely WC to Bali!!

So happy for her

tennisplayer
Oct 28th, 2009, 07:46 AM
i read its official schnydeer gets the wc so does kimiko. one person wrote its official patty gets a wc. do you think schnyder gets it?

Matt01
Oct 28th, 2009, 03:28 PM
Nice to see that a young and new upcoming player got that WC for Bali. :p


No, it's not. At the same time, it's relative to how seasoned a traveller you are. Slovakia to Bali will be very very far for someone who's never left Slovakia - and that's certainly not Dani.

Maybe it's an indication of how little you've travelled? (Not here to make accusations - just curious.)


My amount travelling is totally irrelevant here. From Slovakia to Bali you have to fly pretty much over the whole continent of Asia. That IS FAR. Period.