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The Kaz
Oct 24th, 2009, 02:03 PM
I feel that Luxembourg or Linz should be upgraded to a Premier tournament

I think that Warsaw and Los Angeles however should be downgraded.

What do you think?

Julian.
Oct 24th, 2009, 02:06 PM
Upgrade: Linz
Downgrade: Warsaw

Bring back Zurich.

Uranium
Oct 24th, 2009, 02:07 PM
Warsaw just got horrible luck in where it got placed this year, so I agree it should be downgraded:(
Los Angeles is San Diego next season.
I don't think any should be upgraded:shrug: If I had to choose I'd say Osaka or Linz.

Caralenko
Oct 24th, 2009, 02:10 PM
I feel that Luxembourg should be a Premier tournament

I think that Warsaw and Los Angeles however should be downgraded.



Agreed. Both of these are very valid because the atmosphere at Luxembourg is better than those at Los Angeles and Warsaw, and possibly even Charleston :shrug:

I think Beijing could do with a slight downgrade, or the entire Asian season. They had such tiny crowds in the stands, you'd have to feel weird playing there after the electricity at the USO. European indoor season always had a pretty impressive fanbase.

A-Bond
Oct 24th, 2009, 02:13 PM
I agree, upgrade Linz/Luxembourg/Moscow (bring back Zurich) then I'm happy :) however, downgrad Warsaw and New Haven, otherwise stupid pushers as Dulgheru and Wozniacki can call them Premier-Title-Winners.

AnomyBC
Oct 24th, 2009, 02:16 PM
Judging from the results this year I think all Premier tournaments should be downgraded :)

The Kaz
Oct 24th, 2009, 02:18 PM
I agree, upgrade Linz/Luxembourg/Moscow (bring back Zurich) then I'm happy :) however, downgrad Warsaw and New Haven, otherwise stupid pushers as Dulgheru and Wozniacki can call them Premier-Title-Winners.

Moscow is already a Premier ;) unless you mean upgraded to Premier 5 :D which would be :drool:

The Kaz
Oct 24th, 2009, 02:19 PM
Judging from the results this year I think all Premier tournaments should be downgraded :)

:lol: So true...Sydney was quite good though :shrug:

Julian.
Oct 24th, 2009, 02:19 PM
Moscow is already a Premier ;) unless you mean upgraded to Premier 5 :D which would be :drool:

It should definite;ly be a premier 5 since it was tier 1 before. Beijing stole it. :rolleyes:

LoLex
Oct 24th, 2009, 02:19 PM
Marbella :hearts:

Mynarco
Oct 24th, 2009, 02:20 PM
Bring back Zurich.

Seconded.

Feyd
Oct 24th, 2009, 02:22 PM
It is not the tournaments that is sucking, it is the schedule.
Sydney, Warsaw, Eastbourne, New Haven, Moscow all suffers from tanking or no show-ups, they should be renamed to Tank-ier tournaments.

Julian.
Oct 24th, 2009, 02:23 PM
It is not the tournaments that is sucking, it is the schedule.
Sydney, Warsaw, Eastbourne, New Haven, Moscow all suffers from tanking or no show-ups, they should be renamed to Tank-ier tournaments.

Agreed. but I don't think Sydney suffers that.

VIKA?
Oct 24th, 2009, 02:25 PM
Barcelona should be upgraded :hearts:

Bartosh
Oct 24th, 2009, 02:25 PM
Downgrade: Madrid
Upgrade: Brisbane

AnomyBC
Oct 24th, 2009, 02:26 PM
I agree, upgrade Linz/Luxembourg/Moscow (bring back Zurich) then I'm happy :) however, downgrad Warsaw and New Haven, otherwise stupid pushers as Dulgheru and Wozniacki can call them Premier-Title-Winners.

Well Wozniacki also won Eastbourne, so she'd still be a Premier winner :)

Slutiana
Oct 24th, 2009, 02:28 PM
Birmingham.

Drimal
Oct 24th, 2009, 02:30 PM
upgrade Luxembourg (Premier), and Stuttgart (Premier 5)

Stuttgart has been awarded best organised tournament by the players. Look at the amount of top players playing there every year too. It should be better rated than just "Premier".

downgrade New Haven (International), Madrid (Premier 5), get rid of that new Bali MM YEC

Keegan
Oct 24th, 2009, 02:38 PM
Linz should be upgraded to Premier, Rome should be upgraded to Mandatory. Warsaw and Madrid should be downgraded

BartoliBabes
Oct 24th, 2009, 02:47 PM
Upgraded: Luxembourg, Linz
Downgraded: Warsaw, New Haven

delicatecutter
Oct 24th, 2009, 02:48 PM
Tashkent :rocker2:

Mynarco
Oct 24th, 2009, 02:49 PM
Downgrade Warsaw ffs :help:

CooCooCachoo
Oct 24th, 2009, 02:51 PM
Birmingham.

:spit: No way. Straight after RG; that'd be ridiculous.

I agree with bringing back Zürich :yeah:

NA-GOAT
Oct 24th, 2009, 03:12 PM
Downgrade all of the Premier right before GS / YEC won by Wozniacki / surprise ... Warsaw, Eastbourne, New Haven, Moscow :wavey:

Daruma.
Oct 24th, 2009, 03:49 PM
Upgrade Istanbul to Premier.

Downgrade any other then.

sakya23
Oct 24th, 2009, 03:55 PM
Downgrade Warsaw, New Haven, Moscow
Upgrade Memphis

TheBoiledEgg
Oct 24th, 2009, 04:03 PM
Moscow should be P5 or Mandatory
Beijing should be MM


Bali shouldnt exist, if it did it should be the week before YEC.

Rix643
Oct 24th, 2009, 04:06 PM
Tashkent :rocker2:

Yeah, make it a 50k+H !1 :rocker:

ewbangkok
Oct 24th, 2009, 04:45 PM
upgrade:pattaya, linz,moscow,birmingham

downgrade:warsaw,la

olivero
Oct 24th, 2009, 05:01 PM
Madrid should be regular Premier (or at least Premier 5). Then Warsaw (which has some nice tradition) could get some better line up.

Moscow should be upgraded to Premier 5.

NA-GOAT
Oct 24th, 2009, 05:04 PM
Moscow should be P5 or Mandatory
Beijing should be MM
Bali shouldnt exist, if it did it should be the week before YEC.

I agree w/ you on Bali :wavey:

but Beijing SHOULD NOT be Mini Mouse :sobbing: It has one of best facilities on the wta ... and the top players love to play there ... it has prestige former champs like Serena, Jankovic, Kuznetsova :p ... and it is showcase for the Golden Flowers (they have had some of their best results there)

Moscow used to be good tournament but now it is :help: should be upgrade to P5 :D

Ballbasher
Oct 24th, 2009, 06:30 PM
Judging from the results this year I think all Premier tournaments should be downgraded :)
Stuttgart F was contested by current #1 Safina and current #3 Kuznetsova, which was a Premier 5 & Slam F on the same surface just 1 respective 4 weeks later.How is that a bad result?

Break My Rapture
Oct 24th, 2009, 07:05 PM
Upgrade: Linz, Moscow to PM.
Downgrade: New Haven, Eastbourne, Beijing to Premier 5.
Recover: Zürich, San Diego(I know it's already coming back).
Get rid of: Bali (as MM YEC) :p

AnomyBC
Oct 24th, 2009, 07:15 PM
Stuttgart F was contested by current #1 Safina and current #3 Kuznetsova, which was a Premier 5 & Slam F on the same surface just 1 respective 4 weeks later.How is that a bad result?

Fine, Stuttgart can stay a Premier. Sydney, Indian Wells, Miami, Rome and Cincinnati can stay too. Every other Premier should be downgraded though. And the current International tournaments should all be downgraded to challengers :)

Tanja8
Oct 24th, 2009, 07:31 PM
Upgrade Moscow to 5th Grand Slam :)
(of course they have to change the schedule)

youizahoe
Oct 24th, 2009, 07:38 PM
I thought LA wasn't a tourney anymore, being replaced by SD?

Break My Rapture
Oct 24th, 2009, 07:51 PM
I thought LA wasn't a tourney anymore, being replaced by SD?
That's right ;)

duhcity
Oct 24th, 2009, 08:01 PM
I thought Madrid was just horrible.
I usually like the clay season, but having Madrid as the highlight really sucks, especially since Berlin was so awesome.

Crappy site, facility, and the crowd clearly did not care for women's tennis.


Scheduling has problems too. Rome for men and women back to back gives low crowds to the women, the planned Toronto/Montreal switch up, etc. Lots of sched problems

Daruma.
Oct 24th, 2009, 08:06 PM
Upgrade Moscow to 5th Grand Slam :)
(of course they have to change the schedule)

Grand Slams are not WTA Events , right ? They are ITF events so ... I think no way It can happen.

But I don't know so well.

Gilardino
Oct 24th, 2009, 08:07 PM
Moscow should be Mandatory (due new system)
+return Zurich & Filderstadt

Beijing, Dubai and Doha should be downgrated

jimbo mack
Oct 24th, 2009, 09:38 PM
with the current schedule warsaw, new haven and moscow should be downgraded as top players clearly don't enter these events as they are held a week before the slams/YEC. the only reason they enter sydney and eastbourne are because they are the only 2 significant events that can be played before AO/Wimbledon

despite this i think eastbourne and sydney could get weaker draws over the next few years as top players are increasingly not playing any events the week before a slam, this was not the case 10 years ago...

on the other hand if sydney, eastbourne, warsaw, new haven and moscow were held 2 weeks before the slams/YEC they would be guaranteed more top players entering, thus not enduring the embarassment of dulgheru, vesnina or govortsova playing their finals

PhilePhile
Oct 24th, 2009, 10:42 PM
The Indian Wells tournament may as well be downgraded since it has already been degraded.:lol:

Golovinjured.
Oct 24th, 2009, 11:48 PM
Downgrade: Madrid
Upgrade: Brisbane

This.

Roookie
Oct 25th, 2009, 01:38 AM
Upgrade: San Diego to Premier 5 or Mandatory.
Downgrade: Eastbourne.

Six Feet Under
Oct 25th, 2009, 02:35 AM
Upgrade: San Diego to Premier 5 or Mandatory.
Downgrade: Eastbourne.

is completely disagree with you.

Leo_DFP
Oct 25th, 2009, 03:16 AM
All tournaments in California should be Premier. That'd be crazy if they weren't. It's bad enough they took away the three summer tournaments in a row with Stanford/LA/San Diego. I mean, it's California! Rich tennis tradition AND (for a change) a paying, intellegent public.