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SAISAI-GOAT
Oct 23rd, 2009, 04:36 AM
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SAISAI-GOAT
Oct 23rd, 2009, 04:44 AM
http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/news/jankovic-qualifies-for-doha-20091022_2256076_1833969

When the rankings are released on Monday, October 26, Safina will be ranked No.1 and therefore the top seed at the season-ending event. After holding the top ranking for 25 consecutive weeks (April 20 to October 11), she will replace Serena Williams at the top when points earned at Doha last year come off. In 2009, Safina has earned more ranking points than anyone else.

SAISAI-GOAT
Oct 23rd, 2009, 04:46 AM
It will probably be

Dinara, Caro, Vika, JJ
Serena, Sveta, Elena, Venus

:help:

vw.
Oct 23rd, 2009, 04:51 AM
Dinara, Caro, Elena, Venus please!

new-york
Oct 23rd, 2009, 04:53 AM
Well i just want Venus and Serena in different groups.

adner
Oct 23rd, 2009, 04:53 AM
Dinara, Caro, Elena, Venus please!
Serena instead of Dinara and I am fine with that.

I don't like the ideas of seedings though. I'd prefer Serena-Dinara-Wozniacki-Venus :angel: so both of my anti-favourites(Safina, Wozniacki) would be preferably knocked in round robin.

In The Zone
Oct 23rd, 2009, 06:24 AM
How embarrassing will it be when World #1 and top seed Dinara Safina goes 0-3?

Caralenko
Oct 23rd, 2009, 06:38 AM
How embarrassing will it be when World #1 and top seed Dinara Safina goes 0-3?

You mean 0-6? She was there last year.

How embarassing will it be when Venus finds a way to play Pavlyuchenkova and loses? :scared:

FrOzon
Oct 23rd, 2009, 07:54 AM
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(Dinara, Sveta, Elena, Vika) (Serena, Caro, Venus, JJ)

Elena and Vika can't be in the same groups :shrug:

mr_burns
Oct 23rd, 2009, 07:58 AM
it's not that important, I mean even if two favourites are in 1 group, they both can go to the finals


but i don't want a REAL weak group like
Safina, Wozniaki, Azarenka, JJ or Venus (both can show good form, would clearly advance)

Mikey.
Oct 23rd, 2009, 08:18 AM
I like the first option actually :speakles: There'd be some really good match ups.

SoClose
Oct 23rd, 2009, 08:18 AM
(Dinara, Sveta, Vika, Venus) (Serena, Caro, Elena, JJ)

Caralenko
Oct 23rd, 2009, 08:23 AM
Option 5? :cuckoo: (Dinara, Sveta, Vika, JJ ) (Serena, Caro, Elena, JJ)

No wonder so many people avoided the 8th spot if it meant both :yeah:

Tennisation
Oct 23rd, 2009, 09:18 AM
The sad part about this is none of them really seems to be on form as a standout favorite, so whatever group they're in at this point doesn't really matter anymore :lol:

Dinara - Daniela Safina...nuff said.

Serena - probably gonna retire in the first match, and someone will stand by to fill in for the prize money :lol:

Sveta - too unpredictable

Caro - "injured"

Lena - has not been relevant since Wimbledon semis

Vika - don't remember the last time she advanced passed the second round of any tournament

Venus - she's not defending this title, that's all I know.

JJ - All I know is it's gonna be a dramatic finish but not in a good way.

van£ss
Oct 23rd, 2009, 09:25 AM
Dinara, Caro, JJ, Vika & Serena, Sveta, Venus, Elena would be perfect for me :p

santhuruu
Oct 23rd, 2009, 10:02 AM
Group 1:Dinara Safina,Svetlana Kuznetsova,Victoria Azarenka, Venus Williams

Group 2: Serena Williams, Caroline Wozniacki, Elena Dementieva, Jelena Jankovic


I think these two groups are fantastic, I mean the great rivalries of this year, Serena vs Dementieva, and don't forget that fantastic Sydney match between Serena and Caroline. Serena vs Jankovic, the USOPEN final, they always had great rallies. And also the drama of the Cincinnati match between Dementieva and Jankovic.
Last but not least the fantastic rivalry between Wozniacki and Dementieva!

Second group, well during the claycourt season Kuznetsova and Safina were each others biggest rivals, Venus vs Svetlana, always amazing matches with Kuznetsova playing extremely well long time since that happened. And Venus vs Safina at Rome, okay forget that Wimbledon semi-final, etc.
I'd like to see Venus vs Azarenka, since Azarenka has matured more since their last meeting!

So Ladies and Gentlemen, I think these should be the groups, you can make great previews of their matches based on the matches they played this year!

Golovinjured.
Oct 23rd, 2009, 11:07 AM
Dinara Safina
Caroline Wozniacki
Elena Dementieva
Venus Williams

Serena Williams
Svetlana Kuznetsova
Victoria Azarenka
Jelena Jankovic


SF: S.Williams def Wozniacki (old guard vs new guard)
SF: Dementieva def Azarenka (old guard vs new guard)

F: Dementieva def S.Williams (good rivalry, match of the year.. it's only fitting)

mr_burns
Oct 23rd, 2009, 11:10 AM
Dinara Safina
Caroline Wozniacki
Elena Dementieva
Venus Williams

Serena Williams
Svetlana Kuznetsova
Victoria Azarenka
Jelena Jankovic


SF: S.Williams def Wozniacki (old guard vs new guard)
SF: Dementieva def Azarenka (old guard vs new guard)

F: Dementieva def S.Williams (good rivalry, match of the year.. it's only fitting)


I like that, but I doubt the SF will look tlike that with the groups...could imagine Venus manages to advance with that group and kuznetsova has a really good chance in the bottom one

Julian.
Oct 23rd, 2009, 11:19 AM
(Dinara, Caro, JJ, Vika) (Serena, Sveta, Venus, Elena) :spit:

Golovinjured.
Oct 23rd, 2009, 11:23 AM
I like that, but I doubt the SF will look tlike that with the groups...could imagine Venus manages to advance with that group and kuznetsova has a really good chance in the bottom one

I'd settle for Serena def Venus, and Dementieva def Kuznetsova. In fact, I like that even better. Thankyou :)

Mynarco
Oct 23rd, 2009, 11:31 AM
JJ+Venus one side
Dinara+Serena another

DragonFlame
Oct 23rd, 2009, 11:38 AM
eehh first option isn't possible, i misvoted :o

I would absolutely hate it if dinara, caroline, azarenka and jankovic was 1 group. :o That would be the most sucky combination ever.

PLEASE: Serena, Caroline, Elena, JJ / Dinara, Svetlana, Venus, azarenka

Jose.
Oct 23rd, 2009, 11:49 AM
(Dinara, Sveta, Vika, JJ ) (Serena, Caro, Elena, JJ)

Like this one. :hearts:

That way JJ would have two chances of making the semis :bounce:

Jorn
Oct 23rd, 2009, 12:04 PM
Dinara, Caro, Venus, Vika.

DragonFlame
Oct 23rd, 2009, 12:06 PM
(Dinara, Sveta, Vika, JJ ) (Serena, Caro, Elena, JJ)

Like this one. :hearts:

That way JJ would have two chances of making the semis :bounce:

Na-Goat needs to learn to stop making threads if he can't get things right. :o Mistakes in here, mistakes in his yectop16 thread as well, it's really annoying. :o

maddogz48
Oct 23rd, 2009, 12:34 PM
As long as Venus & Serena are in the same group so they can control the group and reach the semifinals. Option 4 (Serena, Dementieva, Woz, Jankovic)looks great but due to the fact Serena & Venus are also playing YEC doubles and Fed Cup Finals, I voted option 3 (Serena, Venus, Woz, Azarenka). :)

Illusionist
Oct 23rd, 2009, 12:53 PM
(Dinara, Caro, JJ, Venus) (Serena, Sveta, Vika, Elena)
(Dinara, Caro, JJ, Vika) (Serena, Sveta, Venus, Elena)
(Dinara, Caro, JJ, Elena ) (Serena, Sveta, Venus, Vika)

one of these please :angel:

Brena
Oct 23rd, 2009, 12:56 PM
Since Alisa and Marion haven't qualified - I don't care.

On a serious note, I'd love if JJ could avoid Sveta and Serena, but it doesn't mean I think she'd have it easy with the others.

Viktymise
Oct 23rd, 2009, 12:57 PM
I wanted the first option so Borz would go 0-6. Damn.

Renalicious
Oct 23rd, 2009, 01:05 PM
Dinara, Caro, Venus, JJ
Serena, Sveta, Vika, Elena

:) I want Serena to work hard.

Horizon
Oct 23rd, 2009, 02:08 PM
I like the first option actually :speakles: There'd be some really good match ups.
Me too :)

SAISAI-GOAT
Oct 23rd, 2009, 05:46 PM
(Dinara, Sveta, Elena, Vika) (Serena, Caro, Venus, JJ)

Elena and Vika can't be in the same groups :shrug:

yes they can :smash:
they take 2 of the #5-8 for each group ... 5,6 can be in same group

Ferg
Oct 23rd, 2009, 05:58 PM
(Dinara, Caro, JJ, Vika) (Serena, Sveta, Venus, Elena)


omg :tape:

Uranium
Oct 23rd, 2009, 06:02 PM
Serena, Sveta, Wozniacki, Azarenka
Safina, Venus, Dementieva, JJ.

Roookie
Oct 23rd, 2009, 06:03 PM
The sad part about this is none of them really seems to be on form as a standout favorite, so whatever group they're in at this point doesn't really matter anymore :lol:



:worship:

cn ireland
Oct 23rd, 2009, 08:02 PM
Safina, Venus, JJ & Caro + Serena, Elena, Kuznetsova & Azarenka!

Venus, JJ, Serena & Elena to make SF:)!

MBM
Oct 23rd, 2009, 08:07 PM
i want vee vs rena final so I don't care how that works out

#1 and #2 in the same group, in different SF with a chance for a final matchup, hopefully vee to win
both #1 or both #2 in different groups for the same outcome

Lulu.
Oct 23rd, 2009, 08:13 PM
(Safina, Kuznetsova, Dementieva, Venus)

(Serena, Wozniacki, Azarenka, Jankovic)

Njay16
Oct 23rd, 2009, 08:40 PM
Serena, Sveta, Wozniacki, Azarenka
Safina, Venus, Dementieva, JJ.

Everything you post is like gold to me :lol:

Uranium
Oct 23rd, 2009, 08:44 PM
Everything you post is like gold to me :lol:

Thanks:p

Players or teams will be seeded based on the
WTA Tour Rank current the week
prior to the Sony Ericsson Championships.
So this week's ranks decide the seeds.:p

Jorn
Oct 23rd, 2009, 08:51 PM
WTA write that Safina will be seeded 1.

Feyd
Oct 23rd, 2009, 08:53 PM
When the rankings are released on Monday, October 26, Safina will be ranked No.1 and therefore the top seed at the season-ending event.


http://www.sonyericsson-championships.com/page/LatestNews/Read/0,,12910~1834024,00.html

Uranium
Oct 23rd, 2009, 08:53 PM
WTA write that Safina will be seeded 1.

Then I am confused:o

Jorn
Oct 23rd, 2009, 09:04 PM
Why remove the last years YEC points if they use this week rankings... maybe a new rule?

Buitenzorg
Oct 24th, 2009, 04:20 AM
Group 1,4,5,8

Group 2,3,6,7

SAISAI-GOAT
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:03 PM
LOL the choice with the most votes in this poll was the reality

DragonFlame
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:25 PM
LOL the choice with the most votes in this poll was the reality

Duh, its the safina, jj, caro and vika fans voting their faves in the easy group. While the other fans actually trusted their faves and made a balanced draw. :ras:

Sorry, but i'm just too annoyed right now. I find these groups just too incredibly lame. :o

SAISAI-GOAT
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:28 PM
Duh, its the safina, jj, caro and vika fans voting their faves in the easy group. While the other fans actually trusted their faves and made a balanced draw. :ras:

Sorry, but i'm just too annoyed right now. I find these groups just too incredibly lame. :o

DragonFlame :hug:
maybe Elena will play her peak tennis and reach SF :scared:

DragonFlame
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:33 PM
DragonFlame :hug:
maybe Elena will play her peak tennis and reach SF :scared:

This has nothing to do with elena at all. This has to do with 4 players who have shown they can win big while NONE in the other group have. This is quality vs. non-quality. I'm just incredibly disappointed that we're gonna have a shitty yec to end this shitty year quality-wise. Players from the white group will probably gain points by getting to the semifinal in which they don't belong at all. Screwing up the rankings even further. I wouldn't be surprised if wozniacki ended the year #3 and safina #1 now for example.

It's just mindboggling how things can turn out for the worse. Hopefully a mouthwatering 2010 will make up for this total fiasco 2009 ended to be. The year that made 2008 look like top quality tennis. :o

дalex
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:42 PM
This is quality vs. non-quality.

:lol:

Non-quality is a bit harsh...

You should be looking forward to quality matches in the "quality" group then. "Non-quality" group should produce some dramatic matches, too.

DragonFlame
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:51 PM
:lol:
Non-quality is a bit harsh...


Yeah well, this is one of those times where i feel like i just have to bring it hard...

Safina has done nothing since wimbledon, she's shown she's mentally out of it after the french open final. Slowly but slowly she's losing shape but still is no.1. She doesn't have what it takes to win on the big stage.

Wozniacki has done well in the last months, but i think we can all agree it's rediculous that she actually has good chances now to take home the year-end #3 position. To say she has what it takes to be a top3 just isn't the case at all here. Her absolute best doesn't come close to what the other group has to offer.

Azarenka has been getting tough draws in the last half year, but she's underperformed when she's had the chances to perform. She's had tough losses and quality started dropping.

Jankovic shouldn't be here. This year normally wouldn't be a top8 performance, but she hang on and got here because there wasn't anyone better. All the credit to her for still getting here, but what we've seen from her all year just wasn't good enough.

This makes this YEC very disappointing and depressing to me after the tough year we've had... I can't expect much now with these groups, i just can't.

Ferg
Oct 25th, 2009, 09:56 PM
(Dinara, Caro, JJ, Vika) (Serena, Sveta, Venus, Elena)


omg :tape:

I knew it would come true :hysteric:

дalex
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:04 PM
Yeah well, this is one of those times where i feel like i just have to bring it hard...

...

Don't be so negative. All the players earned to be at the SEC. The seeding is done according to players' results during the 2009 season, as it should be.

Luck of the draw decided seeds 2,3,5&7 will be in the same group. Enjoy watching those matches and if you don't appreciate players from other group - just don't watch them.

DragonFlame
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:16 PM
Don't be so negative. All the players earned to be at the SEC. The seeding is done according to players' results during the 2009 season, as it should be.

Luck of the draw decided seeds 2,3,5&7 will be in the same group. Enjoy watching those matches and if you don't appreciate players from other group - just don't watch them.

Sorry but i just can't see anything positive in this... I've actually been hopeful since i love watching the YEC every year. I think it's a crucial part of the year. And i will definetly be watching the white group as well, since i want to see how they do. I'm too much of a tennisfan for that. But i just had to get the frustration out since this year has been so majorly disappointing almost all-round. I'm someone who loves seeing quality tennis and was used to seeing quality tennis for many years, and now we have 2 seasons in a row that have been pretty much disappointing and below the bar compared to those years. I feel like quality has been decreasing over the last 2 years. There are just too little highlights to make this a memorable year, and this yec won't help.

In 2010 the bar just HAS to be lifted again. We need better performances.

Pops Maellard
Oct 25th, 2009, 10:50 PM
In one group you get a bunch of bridesmaids and wannabes while in the other group you get multiple GS champions and Olympic winners. :bs:

Talk about unbalanced. :o

Henpova
Oct 25th, 2009, 11:05 PM
Yeah well, this is one of those times where i feel like i just have to bring it hard...

Safina has done nothing since wimbledon, she's shown she's mentally out of it after the french open final. Slowly but slowly she's losing shape but still is no.1. She doesn't have what it takes to win on the big stage.

Wozniacki has done well in the last months, but i think we can all agree it's rediculous that she actually has good chances now to take home the year-end #3 position. To say she has what it takes to be a top3 just isn't the case at all here. Her absolute best doesn't come close to what the other group has to offer.

Azarenka has been getting tough draws in the last half year, but she's underperformed when she's had the chances to perform. She's had tough losses and quality started dropping.

Jankovic shouldn't be here. This year normally wouldn't be a top8 performance, but she hang on and got here because there wasn't anyone better. All the credit to her for still getting here, but what we've seen from her all year just wasn't good enough.

This makes this YEC very disappointing and depressing to me after the tough year we've had... I can't expect much now with these groups, i just can't.

I think you are being very unfair to these girls.

Safina(3titles), has won more points this year then any one else has. She won more then Serena who can't seem to get her act together to do any thing at a non-slam. So she should be the number one seed.

Wozniacki(3 Titles)- Has was done ok for the first part of the season, being a strong top 8-10 player, and her run at the U.S open. That was easy run because my fav and your fav lost in the 2nd round along with every other top player in that part of the draw, but she did have one good match and took out Sveta. So she should have her ranking.

Azarenka(3tiltes)- you are completely right about Azarenka, great start to the year, and some hard loses.

Jankovic(2titles)- This year for JJ has been a hard one. She has not done what we know she can do. Still she should be in the YEC, since that is what a 8th ranked player is. They play great some times and suck other times.

And if you really look at the other side it is not better.

Serena-(2 titles) She has won two Slams but has lost before the 1/4finals 5 time and not reach the Simi 7 times. She has lost in the first round two times this year. She has been very up and down in her game this year.

Kuznetsova(3titles)-Has won One Slam and two other titles. Other then that has been very below par all year. Still a great year for her only because of the French, but I would not say she has played her best tennis this year.

Elena(3titles)- Started the year great and since then has slowly dropped in form, but for the most part have been more made it further in tournaments then the two slam winners.

Venus(2titles)- Had a very good first part of the season, but has not played all that well since Miami other then Wimb.

My point is All the top 8 sucks this year, no group is really harder then the other, it just one group have more big names then the other. There should be a few great matches but no side will have a ton.

DragonFlame
Oct 25th, 2009, 11:23 PM
My point is All the top 8 sucks this year, no group is really harder then the other, it just one group have more big names then the other. There should be a few great matches but no side will have a ton.

Yes, i agree the top8 has been bad all around. But saying no group isn´t really harder then the other isn´t true. When it comes down to the crunch, all the players who have had the experience to win big titles are in 1 group, can you honestly see ANY of the players in the other group lifting this title if 1 of the 4 players of the other group is playing well? Will any of the white group be able to take one of them down in the YEC-final? I just don't see it happening, not based on their careers, as well as this years performances. They would all have to surpass themselves by a MILE.

When it's time to bring it they just don't perform or aren't rdy to perform yet, and that's what we are seeing in the white group. And that makes it sad knowing the players who ARE able to win this are bunched up in 1 group.

Like you said, i don't expect great matches, but i was hoping for the contenders to be at least spread out in the groups. Which was of course, too much to ask looking at this year.

Roookie
Oct 25th, 2009, 11:51 PM
Honestly Elena has a better chance to beat Serena and Sveta than Caro or Jelena. Venus...i don't think so...she got screwed with that one :lol:. Still...she's the second favourite to make the semis in that group IMO.

Golovinjured.
Oct 26th, 2009, 12:00 AM
LMAO joke.

Renalicious
Oct 26th, 2009, 12:03 AM
LOL What the hell. :sobbing:

gmokb
Oct 26th, 2009, 12:49 AM
I just want Serena to meet and defeat Safina on her way to an all Williams final.

gmak
Oct 26th, 2009, 05:50 PM
i hate this draw :mad: :fiery: :(

the only "positive" is that one of Dinara, Vika or Caro will be in the semis