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lolas
Oct 21st, 2009, 04:27 PM
It might take a few years until 2016 but still I'm curious.
Which surface will the players play on? Hard or clay?
Couldn't find any information. Anyone?

AnnaK_4ever
Oct 21st, 2009, 04:30 PM
Indeed, what will they play on two weeks before USO? :scratch:
I guess indoor carpet.

TeamUla
Oct 21st, 2009, 04:31 PM
Indoor carpet? :weirdo:

Marilyn Monheaux
Oct 21st, 2009, 04:42 PM
It might take a few years until 2016 but still I'm curious.
Which surface will the players play on? Hard or clay?
Couldn't find any information. Anyone?

Clay:inlove:

j/k:p They'll probably play on hard courts:)

Wiggly
Oct 21st, 2009, 04:44 PM
I think someone posted Rio's video presentation and it seemed it was hard courts (outdoors).

AleOrtu
Oct 21st, 2009, 04:47 PM
I think there are many clay places around Rio that can be taken and repaired for the Olympics, instead of building or reffiting an indoor place.
Indoor in such a lovely weather city is out of the question.

miffedmax
Oct 21st, 2009, 04:56 PM
It doesn't matter as Lena will defend. AGAIN. With BANGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AnnaK_4ever
Oct 21st, 2009, 05:12 PM
Indoor carpet? :weirdo:

I think there are many clay places around Rio that can be taken and repaired for the Olympics, instead of building or reffiting an indoor place.
Indoor in such a lovely weather city is out of the question.

Guys, are you for real?

lolas
Oct 21st, 2009, 05:15 PM
Whatever.
Clay would be nice even if it doesn't fit into the schedule.
Barcelona was long time ago.

Tripp
Oct 21st, 2009, 05:35 PM
Please let it be clay! :bounce:

youizahoe
Oct 21st, 2009, 05:37 PM
It's going to be Hardcourt. The olympics won't ever be in clay. 2012 being in grass is already exceptional. THE IOC prefers hardcourt as standard since it equals most players and it's the most used surface.

Wannabeknowitall
Oct 21st, 2009, 05:51 PM
Beijing was hard court. London will be grass, so it only makes sense that Rio is on clay.

Everyone is mentioning how Rio will effect the summer hard court schedule if it is on clay but noone is remarking on how London will do the same.
It's easier to go from hard courts to clay than grass to hard courts and back to grass.

For years most of the top players who played Miami, then proceeded to play well a week and in some cases less than a week later on the green clay at Amelia Island.
In fact earlier this decade there was still many summer clay court tournis on the WTA tour.
There are not as many now but they still play a role on the rankings.

But does anyone remember a time when Wimbledon was played then part of the hard court season was and then a month later right back to grass then back to hard courts?
It's never happened before!!! :lol:
The Wta is going to likely have to give players a choice in 2012 by upgrading Newport, RI.
In the case of the men, the ATP seems prepared for anything.

They have bigger clay tourni that stay around until just around the beginning of August.
They have a tourni on grass after Wimbledon with Newport.
They have the hard court season with the US Open Series.

Wawrinka's ass.

timafi
Oct 21st, 2009, 06:04 PM
clay it will be I guess.This is after all South America:shrug:

youizahoe
Oct 21st, 2009, 06:34 PM
ITS GONNA BE HARDCOURT. Damnit you dumb hoes watch the friggin presentation of the olympic infrastructure, it's gonna be green hardcourt!

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delicatecutter
Oct 21st, 2009, 06:36 PM
Barcelona was on clay, right? Another heartbreaking final. :sobbing:

Break My Rapture
Oct 21st, 2009, 06:37 PM
Aneres. is right :p

young_gunner913
Oct 21st, 2009, 06:38 PM
It doesn't matter as Lena will defend. AGAIN. With BANGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

except these are the 2016 olympics and the 2012 olympics are being held on grass. ;)

Uranium
Oct 21st, 2009, 06:38 PM
Barcelona was on clay, right? Another heartbreaking final. :sobbing:

Yes.

delicatecutter
Oct 21st, 2009, 06:40 PM
except these are the 2016 olympics and the 2012 olympics are being held on grass. ;)

Grass is Lena's best surface, so watch out!

TTomek
Oct 21st, 2009, 06:41 PM
blue indoor clay :lol:

Wannabeknowitall
Oct 21st, 2009, 06:43 PM
ITS GONNA BE HARDCOURT. Damnit you dumb hoes watch the friggin presentation of the olympic infrastructure, it's gonna be blue and green hardcourt!


They don't have to absolutely go by the presentation.
There are other variables involved.
For example, I'm sure Rio would prefer to have a tourni on the WTA tour after the Olympic games.
Clay would really work for Rio.
They could have the tourni during the South American swing in mid Feburary.

The thing that wouldn't work for the future of Rio after the games is hard court.
It would just be in the same situation as Athens is now.

It's a hard court tourni in a place that would work better in the Europe clay swing to be a WTA tourni.
That's one of the reasons why it's only a 100K.
And I doubt Rio wants to be in the same situation as Athens after the games with facilities rotting and billions of dollars in debt.

youizahoe
Oct 21st, 2009, 06:47 PM
They don't have to absolutely go by the presentation.
There are other variables involved.
For example, I'm sure Rio would prefer to have a tourni on the WTA tour after the Olympic games.
Clay would really work for Rio.
They could have the tourni during the South American swing in mid Feburary.

The thing that wouldn't work for the future of Rio after the games is hard court.
It would just be in the same situation as Athens is now.

It's a hard court tourni in a place that would work better in the Europe clay swing to be a WTA tourni.
That's one of the reasons why it's only a 100K.
And I doubt Rio wants to be in the same situation as Athens after the games with facilities rotting and billions of dollars in debt.

In 2004 IOC agreed that it's 99% going to be hardcourt, only in exceptional situations they will take another surface, wimbledon keeps grass because the infrastructure provides so, same would be if the Paris Olympics would use Roland Garros.

Rio 2016 is going to be hardcourt. 100% sure, you can be delusional and believe it's gonna be clay, but it won't.

Patrick345
Oct 21st, 2009, 07:05 PM
Simply depends on the brazilian players. If they stumble into another Guga Kuerten and he wins the French Open in 2013, 2014 and 2015 it will be clay. If they stumble into a Gugina Federer, it´s grass. :devil:

In terms of fairness it should be clay.

Wannabeknowitall
Oct 21st, 2009, 07:09 PM
In 2004 IOC agreed that it's 99% going to be hardcourt, only in exceptional situations they will take another surface, wimbledon keeps grass because the infrastructure provides so, same would be if the Paris Olympics would use Roland Garros.

Rio 2016 is going to be hardcourt. 100% sure, you can be delusional and believe it's gonna be clay, but it won't.

That was in 2004.
One thing the IOC doesn't like is a waste of resources/facilities.
They don't enjoy cities and countries not using facilities that cost millions of dollars and that don't help the host city get them out of debt.

The courts in Syndey will continue to make the city money for decades.
Moscow has already been that way for decades.
Seoul is continuing that pattern as well as Beijing.

The fact remains that the IOC like every organizations wants to do everything in their ability to progress along without dealing a burden to countries.
That's one of the reasons Rio was chosen not because the presentation "came from the heart" as many assume.
They will learn from Athens and do what they can to make the facilities useful for years to come.

youizahoe
Oct 21st, 2009, 07:41 PM
That was in 2004.
One thing the IOC doesn't like is a waste of resources/facilities.
They don't enjoy cities and countries not using facilities that cost millions of dollars and that don't help the host city get them out of debt.

The courts in Syndey will continue to make the city money for decades.
Moscow has already been that way for decades.
Seoul is continuing that pattern as well as Beijing.

The fact remains that the IOC like every organizations wants to do everything in their ability to progress along without dealing a burden to countries.
That's one of the reasons Rio was chosen not because the presentation "came from the heart" as many assume.
They will learn from Athens and do what they can to make the facilities useful for years to come.

You can believe whatever you want, it's going to be hardcourt. I'll gladly prove you wrong in 6 years.

MBM
Oct 21st, 2009, 08:15 PM
you'd think the surface should be required to be fairly neutral, perhaps a slower hardcourt. that is what I don't understand about using SW19 for 2012... grass will benefit certain players and will affect the result (say it was this year, dinara wouldn't be happy at all!)

it isn't a fed cup match where the hosting country chooses a surface to benefit their own team. this is the olympics!!

gaviotabr
Oct 21st, 2009, 08:42 PM
Aneres is right. It has been stated that it will be hardcourts. And I honestly think the courts are not going to be well used afterwards unfortunately. They build an amazing indoor stadium for the 2007 Pan American games, that can be used to host from gymnastics to basketball, and it hasn't been used since..

One thing they should do though is build a roof. It's going to rain in Rio in august.. definitely.. it always does. And that can be really dreadful for tennis. The event has to finish in time so players can be in the US for the USO.

Dawson.
Oct 21st, 2009, 10:02 PM
you'd think the surface should be required to be fairly neutral, perhaps a slower hardcourt. that is what I don't understand about using SW19 for 2012... grass will benefit certain players and will affect the result (say it was this year, dinara wouldn't be happy at all!)

it isn't a fed cup match where the hosting country chooses a surface to benefit their own team. this is the olympics!!

But on the other hand, why spend more money and use up valuable space to build another world class tennis centre when they already have one just a few miles away? :p Grass is what is associated with British tennis (:tape:), so I don't think anyone expected anything else. Sucks for some players, but they'll get over it.

KournikovaFan91
Oct 21st, 2009, 10:41 PM
Thank god it isn't clay :o MMJS would probably win gold. :tape:

MBM
Oct 21st, 2009, 11:08 PM
But on the other hand, why spend more money and use up valuable space to build another world class tennis centre when they already have one just a few miles away? :p Grass is what is associated with British tennis (:tape:), so I don't think anyone expected anything else. Sucks for some players, but they'll get over it.

i think it would be more fair if, given they don't have one uniform surface every olympics, if they made sure to include every surface on a rotational basis, so hard, then grass, then clay

Dawson.
Oct 21st, 2009, 11:19 PM
i think it would be more fair if, given they don't have one uniform surface every olympics, if they made sure to include every surface on a rotational basis, so hard, then grass, then clay

I'd go with that. That's why I'm suprised Rio isn't going to be on clay.

The 2nd Law
Oct 22nd, 2009, 12:24 AM
I accept that posters in here who live in Brazil have confirmed that it will be on hardcourts, however in my opinion it would be much better on clay. Honestly, I don't care about a balanced surface for all players, that's tennis, tennis is played on DIFFERENT surfaces - and if the olympics strives to be one of tennis' premier titles, it should also be played on all surfaces. Also, like others for some reason I just associate South America with clay courts, sorry if that's wrong. Just my opinion, I'll be happy either way thugh because it's going to be in RIO!!!! :hearts:

drake3781
Oct 22nd, 2009, 03:37 AM
I accept that posters in here who live in Brazil have confirmed that it will be on hardcourts, however in my opinion it would be much better on clay. Honestly, I don't care about a balanced surface for all players, that's tennis, tennis is played on DIFFERENT surfaces - and if the olympics strives to be one of tennis' premier titles, it should also be played on all surfaces. Also, like others for some reason I just associate South America with clay courts, sorry if that's wrong. Just my opinion, I'll be happy either way thugh because it's going to be in RIO!!!! :hearts:


I agree with this - I would like to see it on Clay in that year. The promo does show hard courts but they had to show something, didn't they? This doesn't mean that the people designing the video knew for sure what the surface would be. Or that the decision has been made at all.

darrinbaker00
Oct 22nd, 2009, 05:25 AM
you'd think the surface should be required to be fairly neutral, perhaps a slower hardcourt. that is what I don't understand about using SW19 for 2012... grass will benefit certain players and will affect the result (say it was this year, dinara wouldn't be happy at all!)

it isn't a fed cup match where the hosting country chooses a surface to benefit their own team. this is the olympics!!
How could they NOT have it there? :shrug:

darrinbaker00
Oct 22nd, 2009, 05:29 AM
I agree with this - I would like to see it on Clay in that year. The promo does show hard courts but they had to show something, didn't they? This doesn't mean that the people designing the video knew for sure what the surface would be. Or that the decision has been made at all.
If it's during the US Open Series, the USTA will bribe persuade the International Olympic Committee to bribe persuade the Brazilians into building Deco Turf II courts for the Olympic tennis tournaments.

Wannabeknowitall
Oct 22nd, 2009, 06:03 AM
If it's during the US Open Series, the USTA will bribe persuade the International Olympic Committee to bribe persuade the Brazilians into building Deco Turf II courts for the Olympic tennis tournaments.

Considering the USTA is persauding more youngsters to play on clay for the purpose of constructing better points, it's not a guarantee that they would go that route.
And we're also not taking into account the summer clay court season.
Many of the men still want even more clay tournis on tour than hard courts.

The US Open Series had the biggest amount of prize money yet but two weeks into the series where was the biggest tourni?
In Hamburg, on clay.
This whole summer people on this forum commented about the empty seats at many of the US Open Series tournis, especially on the women's side.
Do you really think that can continue without something happening?
Tournaments like Monte Carlo and Hamburg are losing their spots as feature tournis in the spring.
Money still talks though.
Don't think they will go down without a fight and if that means proceeding with a summer clay court season that rivals the US Open Series than so be it.

youizahoe
Oct 22nd, 2009, 11:44 AM
you'd think the surface should be required to be fairly neutral, perhaps a slower hardcourt. that is what I don't understand about using SW19 for 2012... grass will benefit certain players and will affect the result (say it was this year, dinara wouldn't be happy at all!)

it isn't a fed cup match where the hosting country chooses a surface to benefit their own team. this is the olympics!!

They have taken grass because the facility only provides grass surface. If they would have done the Olympics in Paris, and tennis at RG, it would have been clay. Only in these situations they pick the home surface, if it's new, they'll always go with HC.

Aneres is right. It has been stated that it will be hardcourts. And I honestly think the courts are not going to be well used afterwards unfortunately. They build an amazing indoor stadium for the 2007 Pan American games, that can be used to host from gymnastics to basketball, and it hasn't been used since..

One thing they should do though is build a roof. It's going to rain in Rio in august.. definitely.. it always does. And that can be really dreadful for tennis. The event has to finish in time so players can be in the US for the USO.

Yeah I'm worried about that too, I remember August having pouring rains in Rio :lol:

I agree with this - I would like to see it on Clay in that year. The promo does show hard courts but they had to show something, didn't they? This doesn't mean that the people designing the video knew for sure what the surface would be. Or that the decision has been made at all.

As with any promotion video, that video is 100% identical to the future infrastructure, in 20 years it hasn't changed. Unless safety issues or IOC complaints.

If it's during the US Open Series, the USTA will bribe persuade the International Olympic Committee to bribe persuade the Brazilians into building Deco Turf II courts for the Olympic tennis tournaments.

It's gonna be HC anyway.

BournemouthBoy
Oct 22nd, 2009, 11:50 AM
id like to see it on clay just so Serena doesn't win it.

Jose.
Oct 22nd, 2009, 12:26 PM
Is it 2016 already ? :scratch:

Anyone who has been to tropical Rio will know it can rain ... A LOT.

Hoping Centre Court has some kind of roof facility and the surface is hardcourt.


Serbian tennis star Jekalina Jankovic has already decided on her outfit for carnival city.

http://i88.servimg.com/u/f88/12/18/29/07/jj_00110.jpg


:lol: :wavey:

AnnaK_4ever
Oct 22nd, 2009, 01:56 PM
id like to see it on clay just so Serena doesn't win it.

Another idiot on the board :woohoo: