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AnnaK_4ever
Oct 16th, 2009, 09:02 PM
Below are the points accumulated by players at 4 Grand Slams, 4 Premier Mandatory and 5 Premier Five events this season:

Pts trns Average Race
rank
01 Serena WILLIAMS 7056 11 641.45 02
02 Dinara SAFINA 6623 13 509.46 01
03 Svetlana KUZNETSOVA 5063 13 389.46 03
04 Elena DEMENTIEVA 3946 12 328.83 05
05 Victoria AZARENKA 3830 12 319.17 06
06 Venus WILLIAMS 3737 12 311.42 07
07 Caroline WOZNIACKI 3517 12 293.08 04
08 Vera ZVONAREVA 3091 10 309.10 09
09 Jelena JANKOVIC 2945 13 226.54 08
10 Agnieszka RADWANSKA 2791 13 214.69 10
11 Kim CLIJSTERS 2310 3 770.00 16
12 Maria SHARAPOVA 2250 6 375.00 13
13 Samantha STOSUR 2026 12 168.83 14
14 Ana IVANOVIC 1936 11 176.00 20
15 NA Li 1902 10 190.20 15
16 Nadia PETROVA 1782 11 162.00 18
17 Flavia PENNETTA 1711 12 142.58 11
18 Marion BARTOLI 1697 13 130.54 12
19 Dominika CIBULKOVA 1596 8 199.50 25
20 Virginie RAZZANO 1582 12 131.83 17

and their results at these tournaments:

Player AUS Dub Ind Mia Rom Mad R-G WIM Cin Can USO Tok Bei

S.Williams WON SF - RU 1r 1r QF WON 3r SF SF - 3r
D Safina RU 1r QF 3r WON WON RU SF RU 1r 3r 1r 2r
S.Kuznetsova QF 1r 1r SF RU 1r WON 3r 3r 1r 4r 1r WON
E.Dementieva SF QF 1r 4r - 3r 3r SF SF WON 2r 1r QF
V.Azarenka 4r - SF WON SF 3r QF QF 3r 2r 3r QF 2r
V.Williams 2r WON - SF SF 1r 3r RU 3r 1r 4r 1r 2r
C.Wozniacki 3r - QF QF 3r RU 3r 4r QF 1r RU 1r 1r
V.Zvonareva SF QF WON 3r - - - 3r 3r 3r 4r 1r QF
J.Jankovic 4r 3r 1r 1r QF QF 4r 3r WON QF 2r RU 1r
A.Radwanska 1r 1r QF 4r QF 1r 4r QF 2r QF 2r SF RU
K.Clijsters - - - - - - - - QF 3r WON - -
M.Sharapova - - - - - - QF 2r - RU 3r WON 3r
S.Stosur 3r 2r 2r QF 1r 2r SF 3r - QF 2r 2r 1r
A.Ivanovic 3r QF RU 3r 3r - 4r 4r 2r 2r 1r 1r -
N.Li - 1r 4r QF 1r 2r 4r 3r - - QF QF 3r
N.Petrova 4r - - 3r 3r 3r 2r 4r 1r 1r 4r 2r SF
F.Pennetta 3r - 4r 3r 3r 1r 1r 3r SF 2r QF 1r 3r
M.Bartoli QF 3r 1r 1r 2r 1r 2r 3r 1r 1r 2r QF SF
D.Cibulkova 4r 3r 1r 2r - - SF 3r 1r 2r - - -
V.Razzano 3r RU 2r 1r 2r 2r 4r 4r 1r 3r 1r 1r -

pre-QF losses in red

Kworb
Oct 16th, 2009, 09:06 PM
Wow, Pennetta is so low. I didn't realize she got to the top 10 by being an MM queen.

frenchie
Oct 16th, 2009, 09:13 PM
Wozniacki is a MM queen
yeah riiiiight!

Ferg
Oct 16th, 2009, 09:18 PM
Not surprised, i think Beijing was the only mandatory tournament Marion won matches at this year. :tape:

phelbyn
Oct 16th, 2009, 09:30 PM
Below are the points accumulated by players at 4 Grand Slams, 4 Premier Mandatory and 5 Premier Five events this season.

Pts trns Average Race
rank
01 Serena WILLIAMS 7056 11 641.45 02
02 Dinara SAFINA 6623 13 509.46 01
03 Svetlana KUZNETSOVA 5063 13 389.46 03
04 Elena DEMENTIEVA 3946 12 328.83 05
05 Victoria AZARENKA 3830 12 319.17 06
06 Venus WILLIAMS 3737 12 311.42 07
07 Caroline WOZNIACKI 3517 12 293.08 04
08 Vera ZVONAREVA 3091 10 309.10 09
09 Jelena JANKOVIC 2945 13 226.54 08
10 Agnieszka RADWANSKA 2791 13 214.69 10
11 Kim CLIJSTERS 2310 3 770.00 16
12 Maria SHARAPOVA 2250 6 375.00 13
13 Samantha STOSUR 2026 12 168.83 14
14 Ana IVANOVIC 1936 11 176.00 20
15 NA Li 1902 10 190.20 15
16 Nadia PETROVA 1782 11 162.00 18
17 Flavia PENNETTA 1711 12 142.58 11
18 Marion BARTOLI 1697 13 130.54 12
19 Dominika CIBULKOVA 1596 8 199.50 25
20 Virginie RAZZANO 1582 12 131.83 17

Wow! Puts it into perspective who is winning points at the big tournies! No surprise Wozniacki, Venus, Bartoli, Pennetta are much lower here...

frenchie
Oct 16th, 2009, 09:32 PM
Wow! Puts it into perspective who is winning points at the big tournies! No surprise Wozniacki, Venus, Bartoli, Pennetta are much lower here...

Yeah Caro is 7th instead of 6th in the real rankings

much lower like you said:help:

Graf~Dokic
Oct 16th, 2009, 09:34 PM
Yeah Caro is 7th instead of 6th in the real rankings

much lower like you said:help:

I think phelbyn was talking about the race where Wozniacki is 3rd. ;)

AnnaK_4ever
Oct 16th, 2009, 09:44 PM
Wow! Puts it into perspective who is winning points at the big tournies! No surprise Wozniacki, Venus, Bartoli, Pennetta are much lower here...

Venus is the 6th here and 7th in the race. How is this "much lower"?

kman
Oct 16th, 2009, 10:23 PM
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kman
Oct 16th, 2009, 10:28 PM
Why not give weight to all premier tournaments? Why stop at Premier 5?


Wow! Puts it into perspective who is winning points at the big tournies! No surprise Wozniacki, Venus, Bartoli, Pennetta are much lower here...

If you go by premier wins and finals, Caroline should definitely be higher than Azarenka.


Caroline has 2 premier wins this year, 1 premier 5 final, 1 premier mandatory final and 1 grandslam final.

That definitely beats Azarenka's one win at Miami even though it was mandatory. Has Azarenka made any other significant finals this year? Let's say Azarenka's Miami win is equal to Caroline's grand slam final, what does Azarenka has that stacks up against Caroline's additional 2 premier wins, 1 premier 5 final and 1 premier mandatory final? Slightly better performance at the other slams? So what she made a couple of QFs. That shouldn't count for much, but unfortunately I fear the weight distribution in these rankings is rigged.

Golovinjured.
Oct 16th, 2009, 10:35 PM
Wow! Puts it into perspective who is winning points at the big tournies! No surprise Wozniacki, Venus, Bartoli, Pennetta are much lower here...

Idiot :rolleyes:

perseus2006
Oct 16th, 2009, 11:19 PM
Interesting table of data.

It was a surprise to see Pova on the list. I was watching her game to see if she would even be able to really play tennis anymore! With the new serve motion in Tokyo, I was satisfied she would be a major contender in 2010.

However, if one looks at these averages, it appears that Pova was playing Top 5 tennis during her seemingly modest "comeback" season, especially with poor performances at W and USO figured in. More reason for optimism...

In The Zone
Oct 16th, 2009, 11:21 PM
Notice how Bartoli, Pennetta, and Wozniacki drop considerably.

gc-spurs
Oct 16th, 2009, 11:21 PM
Nice job Pova for semi-season.

miffedmax
Oct 17th, 2009, 03:08 AM
Clearly, it needs to be recalculated until Elena is #1. This whole bridesmaid thing is wearing me down almost as much as having to work the damn bangs into every post.

Actually, it's pretty interesting.

NA-GOAT
Oct 17th, 2009, 03:11 AM
Pennetta :help:

Roookie
Oct 17th, 2009, 03:58 AM
Intersting stats.

hdfb
Oct 17th, 2009, 04:04 AM
Wozniacki is a MM queen
yeah riiiiight!

Aided by fortunate draw into USO final.

LudwigDvorak
Oct 17th, 2009, 04:13 AM
And so many pre-QF exits for damn near all of them. Pathetic.

~Cherry*Blossom~
Oct 17th, 2009, 06:19 AM
Wow! Puts it into perspective who is winning points at the big tournies! No surprise Wozniacki, Venus, Bartoli, Pennetta are much lower here...

:weirdo: Venus is #7 in the race.

If you're talking about her world ranking of #3 then obviously you should know that she has a shit load of points to defend at the end of the year! But then again you probably didn't know that :tape:

AnnaK_4ever
Oct 17th, 2009, 10:29 AM
And so many pre-QF exits for damn near all of them. Pathetic.

These stats added ;)

Singleniacki
Oct 17th, 2009, 10:33 AM
So many points for marion to gain next year:drool:

Golovinjured.
Oct 17th, 2009, 10:33 AM
10 R1 losses for the TOP 3 :help: It has been a bad season.

Matt01
Oct 17th, 2009, 10:57 AM
Notice how Bartoli, Pennetta, and Wozniacki drop considerably.


And Venus ;) :lol:

~Cherry*Blossom~
Oct 17th, 2009, 12:08 PM
And Venus ;) :lol:

:weirdo:

If you're talking about Venus' #3 ranking that includes the YEC, which she went 5-0. That tournament isn't included in this list.

If you look at the race, which is a much better comparison to this system, Venus is #7 so she actually goes up in this list.

It is amazing how retarded you are :wavey: I know it's not nice to make fun out of those with special needs, but some people really do just need to be told!

Matt01
Oct 17th, 2009, 12:15 PM
:weirdo:

If you're talking about Venus' #3 ranking that includes the YEC, which she went 5-0. That tournament isn't included in this list.


Yeah, and that's why Venus will drop after the YEC (and Zurich). But thanks for calling me a retard you troll :kiss:

ETA: Or do you actually expect Venus to win the YEC this year? :lol:

terjw
Oct 17th, 2009, 12:23 PM
Why not give weight to all premier tournaments? Why stop at Premier 5?


Yeah - to say that all other tournaments are MM tournaments is not right. The fields at Eastbourne and Sydney were strong and no way were they MM. Caro won Eastbourne. Sure the top seeds dropped out early - but they were there and that's their problem and top seeds have been dropping out of most of the big tournaments like flies anyway.

perseus2006
Oct 17th, 2009, 01:31 PM
Looking at the performance by tournament data, it appears that all twenty players were ridiculously inconsistent this year. It wasn't just Ana, JJ and Dinara underperforming, but the whole lot of them! This certainly adds credence to the opinion held by many that the last 18 months have been the weakest in WTA history.

However, to really make a sound conclusion about the observation, one would need to review a three to five year chart of the same data. These things just get so tedious... It's always a case of "insufficient data".

AnnaK_4ever
Oct 17th, 2009, 01:36 PM
Looking at the performance by tournament data, it appears that all twenty players were ridiculously inconsistent this year. It wasn't just Ana, JJ and Dinara underperforming, but the whole lot of them! This certainly adds credence to the opinion held by many that the last 18 months have been the weakest in WTA history.

However, to really make a sound conclusion about the observation, one would need to review a three to five year chart of the same data. These things just get so tedious... It's always a case of "insufficient data".

I'm gonna do this in the end of the season.

perseus2006
Oct 17th, 2009, 01:55 PM
I'm gonna do this in the end of the season.

Sorry, I wasn't asking you to go to all the work to assemble that data! Just lamenting about the difficulties in drawing conclusions from any data set.

Also, it's guaranteed, that if you do it, people will want it done differently. For example, do you do it for the Top 20 in previous years, regardless of players involved? Or do you do it following the evolution of the 2009 Top 20 players? The former would be a better standard for Top 20 performance, the latter more satisfying for viewers of specific players.

It's unfortunate that there isn't a gigantic database publicly available with all this data.

brent-o
Oct 17th, 2009, 03:39 PM
Really shocked Razzano is on that list. My memory probably sucks, but when did she have success this year?

Vanity Bonfire
Oct 17th, 2009, 03:59 PM
Really shocked Razzano is on that list. My memory probably sucks, but when did she have success this year?

Dubai and Eastbourne are the only tournaments I can remember her doing well in this year. She also made the 4th rd at Wimbledon.

AnnaK_4ever
Oct 17th, 2009, 04:22 PM
Sorry, I wasn't asking you to go to all the work to assemble that data! Just lamenting about the difficulties in drawing conclusions from any data set.

Also, it's guaranteed, that if you do it, people will want it done differently. For example, do you do it for the Top 20 in previous years, regardless of players involved? Or do you do it following the evolution of the 2009 Top 20 players? The former would be a better standard for Top 20 performance, the latter more satisfying for viewers of specific players.

I'll probably do this for year-end top-20 players for each season since 2001.

Roookie
Oct 17th, 2009, 06:29 PM
Pathetic results from all the top players :help:.

Ryan
Oct 17th, 2009, 07:47 PM
The thing I immediately notice is how inconsistent they ALL are. I've never seen so many pre-QF losses in one spreadsheet. :lol: I'm surprised that the most QF and up results is 7.

~Cherry*Blossom~
Oct 17th, 2009, 08:10 PM
Yeah, and that's why Venus will drop after the YEC (and Zurich). But thanks for calling me a retard you troll :kiss:

ETA: Or do you actually expect Venus to win the YEC this year? :lol:

This is another retarded post by you! Congrats :bigclap:

Whether I think Venus wins the YEC is irrelevant. Whether Venus wins the YEC is irrelevant! If Venus loses at the YEC, her ranking will fall from #3 wouldn't it? And she wouldn't rise on this list!

If she wins the YEC her ranking will either stay the same or drop by one place. She'll rise a few places on this list. So therefore this list will more or less show her correct ranking.

But it's probably too complex for a retard to understand :kiss:

Matt01
Oct 17th, 2009, 08:16 PM
This is another retarded post by you! Congrats :bigclap:


Thanks :)

Fact is that Venus is higher in the rankings than on this list, that's all I need to know (and that her ranking will drop further soon). Thanks again. Have a nice day! :wavey:

Slutiana
Oct 18th, 2009, 12:03 PM
WTA. :spit::spit:

This seriously just put everything into perspective. Even the top players aren't "top". :tape: Deary me.