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delicatecutter
Oct 16th, 2009, 03:35 PM
Aga!!! Take the title, girl!! :hearts:

is1531
Oct 16th, 2009, 03:36 PM
The student lost to the teacher.

Caipirinha Guy
Oct 16th, 2009, 03:36 PM
Well done, girl :inlove:

frenchie
Oct 16th, 2009, 03:38 PM
Aga looks exhausted but well done!

Whoever taught tennis to Safarova and Kvitova should be banned from tennis
He would be a good baseball coach though!

Fantasy Hero
Oct 16th, 2009, 03:39 PM
:spit: Safarova's backhand wanted Aga to win

Taniaaa
Oct 16th, 2009, 03:39 PM
Lucie wasted all the chances she had:sobbing:

good luck in Moscow:hug:

Aryman3
Oct 16th, 2009, 03:40 PM
Finally some breakthrough in her game this autumn
Aga seems stronger and more in attacking mood. She has also fine endurance
So many matches during last 3 weeks

olivero
Oct 16th, 2009, 03:40 PM
I've seen just last 3 games and tie-break. And it wasn't really impressive from both.
Well done I guess, specially that Agnieszka hasn't been winning many tie-breaks this year ;)

Lucie you moron :hug: she almost had that second set but made some really dumb errors :tape:

Patrick345
Oct 16th, 2009, 03:41 PM
Like I said, if you are young, very stupid, and fairly athletic you have two chances to make a living outside the unemployment line women´s tennis and porn. :worship::worship:

volta
Oct 16th, 2009, 03:42 PM
:drive:

Lucie :hug:

Fantasy Hero
Oct 16th, 2009, 03:43 PM
Finally some breakthrough in her game this autumn
Aga seems stronger and more in attacking mood. She has also fine endurance
So many matches during last 3 weeks

Agree mostly on service she seems to be more agressive:lol:

Patrick345
Oct 16th, 2009, 03:44 PM
Agree mostly on service she seems to be more agressive:lol:

Yeah her 2nd serve is scary. I can´t believe Lucie was able to even return these massive bombs. :lol::lol:

Davodus
Oct 16th, 2009, 03:45 PM
Annoying. Lucie had so many chances in that TB :o

But at the start of the match she hit so many backhand errors that I lost count.

She just can't win the close ones, like that TB. Oh well, hope Aga takes the title now.

Patrick345
Oct 16th, 2009, 03:50 PM
Radwanska .... cool, doing all the right things, not making mistakes ... and aparently (in this company at least) able to raise her game when she needs it.

When did Radwanska raise her game? The last 3-4 serves in the tiebreak were at most 60 km/h. Safarova missed three 100% shots to win the set or get another setpoint. Radwanska has and will always be nothing, but a pusher, that will always be beaten by real tennis players, but since there are about ten on the women´s tour, she can maintain a top 12 ranking easily for the rest of her life.

TheBoiledEgg
Oct 16th, 2009, 03:51 PM
Lucie :rolleyes: should have at least won that 2nd set :o

delicatecutter
Oct 16th, 2009, 03:53 PM
When did Radwanska raise her game? The last 3-4 serves in the tiebreak were at most 60 km/h. Safarova missed three 100% shots to win the set or get another setpoint. Radwanska has and will always be nothing, but a pusher, that will always be beaten by real tennis players, but since there are about ten on the women´s tour, she can maintain a top 12 ranking easily for the rest of her life.

:spit: Bitter much? :p

Caipirinha Guy
Oct 16th, 2009, 03:54 PM
When did Radwanska raise her game? The last 3-4 serves in the tiebreak were at most 60 km/h. Safarova missed three 100% shots to win the set or get another setpoint. Radwanska has and will always be nothing, but a pusher, that will always be beaten by real tennis players, but since there are about ten on the women´s tour, she can maintain a top 12 ranking easily for the rest of her life.

What a frustration from a disappointed fan.:lol: Lecz się. :rolleyes:

frenchie
Oct 16th, 2009, 03:54 PM
When did Radwanska raise her game? The last 3-4 serves in the tiebreak were at most 60 km/h. Safarova missed three 100% shots to win the set or get another setpoint. Radwanska has and will always be nothing, but a pusher, that will always be beaten by real tennis players, but since there are about ten on the women´s tour, she can maintain a top 12 ranking easily for the rest of her life.


I guess those players include Kuznetsova, Dementieva, Sharapova, Ivanovic...players against who Agnieszka has wins over:rolleyes:

Viktymise
Oct 16th, 2009, 03:54 PM
Whoever taught tennis to Safarova and Kvitova should be banned from tennis!

Equally, whoever taught Radwanska how to hit that vomit-inducing FH should clearly be kept a long way away from the game.

is1531
Oct 16th, 2009, 03:55 PM
Radwanksa trailed in the 2nd set 6-4 in the tiebreaker but Radwanska was undaunted. On the next play Safarova had control of the point hitting a shot deep on the baseline that jammed Radwanska, but Radwanska who plays great defense, managed to fight off the shot returning the ball to the center of the court. On the return, Safarova was standing up by the net and and she was handcuffed by the return forcing a weak return allowing Radwanska to return a winner. Radwanska scored the next point to tie the tiebreaker at 6.

Radwanska forced so many unforced errors on Safarova as Safarova inisted on playing for winners on every shot which turned out to be her kiss of death, while Radwaska mixed up her game all through the match. Radwanska showed an excellent drop shot throughout the match and make 2 tremendous plays turning them into winners,as she ran from left to right and then hitting the ball down the line for winners.

Lucie shot herself in the back in set 1 game 3. With the match tied at 1 game each, Aggie hit a drop shot giving Lucie the entire left side. Lucie failed to pay attention to where the opening was. Luice ended up hitting the ball right at Aggie, who turned it into a passing shot winner. On the next play Lucie had her drop shot returned by Aggie with Lucie hitting the ball right where Aggie was standing causing another winner. The student was getting a lesson in playing tennis.

Aggie would take advantage of Lucie's lack of patience to increase her lead to 5-1 in the first set, before winning 6-3. Every time Lucie took the lead in the 2nd set, the teacher answered the bell. Lucie lead 5-4 and 6-5 and then 6-4 in the tiebreaker, but in the end Lucie had failed against the teacher. Lucie must learn to put some finesse in her game. You don't play for winners on every play.

Fantasy Hero
Oct 16th, 2009, 03:55 PM
Yeah her 2nd serve is scary. I can´t believe Lucie was able to even return these massive bombs. :lol::lol:

yeah :lol: it's incredible how powerful and agressive is her whole game, always with the feet inside the court hitting harder and harder:lol:

Davodus
Oct 16th, 2009, 03:57 PM
Deja vu the Cornet match yesterday? .... Close but no cigar for Lucie.

Safarova's lack of raw foot speed and forward movement always makes her vulnerable against a Radswanska-type slugest and the drop-shot. All out attack the best play for the Czech. A beautifully simplisitic approach of hitting a winner on the 6th stroke of every rally with that stingin' lefty forehand ... irrespective of her position on the court.

Undone by a streaky backhand (11 UEs on that wing in the first set alone), too many free gifts and blessed with a hard hit first serve that rarely lands in.

Radwanska .... cool, doing all the right things, not making mistakes ... and aparently (in this company at least) able to raise her game when she needs it.

Lucie has one of the best first serves in womens tennis :shrug: This match, it didn't land in much, but throughout this year she has been getting up around 60-70% of first serves in. It doesn't rarely land in at all :shrug:

Sammy Stones
Oct 16th, 2009, 04:01 PM
the board needs to steer away from actually tennis talk. you people get to hating each other.

let's talk instead about how Safarova's nipples are constantly erect. seriously, do they come with the yellow top?

AcesHigh
Oct 16th, 2009, 04:02 PM
Congrats Aga :) Good win

ElusiveChanteuse
Oct 16th, 2009, 04:13 PM
I thought Aga would be very tired after all these weeks of play but still she fights hard.:worship: :rocker:
End it or win it all Aga.:)

Lucie :hug:

aguy9797
Oct 16th, 2009, 04:20 PM
the more Aga wins, the more her haters keep on spitting at her, interesting correlation. It is Aga's fault that she hits "puffballs", it is Aga's fault that her opponents keep on missing their returns, it is Aga's fault that she chases every ball down, keeping it in play, and it Aga's fault that her opponents overhit and make errors after stupid error...go figure

ZODIAC
Oct 16th, 2009, 04:33 PM
Safarova had too many errors but Kvitova plays carefree tennis she will beat Radwanska.She has a great attacking game that will bother Aga....there you have it,kvitova beat Aga

Patrick345
Oct 16th, 2009, 04:38 PM
the more Aga wins, the more her haters keep on spitting at her, interesting correlation. It is Aga's fault that she hits "puffballs", it is Aga's fault that her opponents keep on missing their returns, it is Aga's fault that she chases every ball down, keeping it in play, and it Aga's fault that her opponents overhit and make errors after stupid error...go figure

That´s all cool, just don´t tell me, she´ll ever win a Slam or be a complete top 5 tennis player. She is a top 3 rubberwall right now. She can make her opponents lose, she can´t beat them actively. Radwanska has a certain ceiling on a tennis court, but if these players are in-form they´ll beat her every time: Williams sisters, Safina, Azarenka, Sharapova, Clijsters, Henin, Jankovic, Ivanovic, Zvonareva, Pennetta, Petrova, Hantuchova, Wozniacki, Kuznetsova, Dementieva, Bartoli. Radwanska´s best is just not good enough to be an elite player. She plays a consistent pusher game, but these 2nd serves in the tiebreak today were so bad Steffi Graf would hit outright winners on each of them, even at age 40 without much pratice. It speaks volumes of what a player Safarova is that she didn´t even take control of the point with her returns.

And what is Radwanska winning exactly that haters should be upset about?

This year she has a record of
2-8 against top 10 players (one win against Ivanovic)
13-14 against top 30 players
and seven more losses to players outside the top 30.

She is what she is. Consistent and average at her best.

AcesHigh
Oct 16th, 2009, 04:41 PM
Radwanksa will be a slam winner and top 5 player :)

fouc
Oct 16th, 2009, 04:44 PM
she is sooo going to be a slam winner and top 5 player :)
(and she's 4-0 against Bartoli, btw)

Patrick345
Oct 16th, 2009, 04:45 PM
Radwanksa will be a slam winner and top 5 player :)

It´s certainly more likely that a player with the name Radwanksa comes along and wins a Slam, than Radwanska actually winning one.:lol:

delicatecutter
Oct 16th, 2009, 04:45 PM
Aga may never win a Slam, but she's a refreshing player to watch who does the most with her limited abilities. I don't know why people want to hate on her, but it's their loss. Oh and she's also bringing sexy back. :inlove:

TeraByte
Oct 16th, 2009, 04:48 PM
yeah :lol: it's incredible how powerful and agressive is her whole game, always with the feet inside the court hitting harder and harder:lol:

Watch better your Flavia (really great player: at last, at the age of 27, being able to rise into the Top 10 for less than four months) if she's not going to lose to Olaru. She's had big problems in 1. set.

Fantasy Hero
Oct 16th, 2009, 04:52 PM
Watch better your Flavia (really great player: at last, at the age of 27, being able to rise into the Top 10 for less than four months) if she's not going to lose to Olaru. She's had big problems in 1. set.

i know how brainless can be Flavia, that in the end won at least the first set, but i don't want anyone to think i hate Aga only coz she's ahead of Flavia in the ranking...the reason is that i cannot stand her game because i hate defenders and people who don't put some power on the ball, but i worship her because she's one of the smartest player around:p

aguy9797
Oct 16th, 2009, 04:55 PM
"And what is Radwanska winning exactly that haters should be upset about?

This year she has a record of
2-8 against top 10 players (one win against Ivanovic)
13-14 against top 30 players
and seven more losses to players outside the top 30.

She is what she is. Consistent and average at her best.[/QUOTE]"


I found it amusing, you put Marion on the list of player who always beat Aga :)

Aga has had a difficult year dealing with her new status as a Top 10 player, she seems to be overcoming her confidence problems, and hopefully that will help her refocus on her game, and let her make some needed adjustments. You are forgetting she is only 20 yo, much, much younger than Panetta, Dementieva, Zvonereva, or Jankovic. Aga has time to improve her serve, and get stronger, and calling her names when she keeps on beating "real tennis players" (vide: hard core hitters) is just ridiculous.

And for the haters: you do not like her, your choice, do not like her, just do not get bitchy when she wins, proving you wrong.

Foals.
Oct 16th, 2009, 04:57 PM
Lucie :sad: :mad:
Inevitable seeing as i watched this that Lucie would lose.
Great fight in the second set and tiebreaker but still error strewn.
Totally blew it in the tiebreaker with the easiest of putaways blasted out :rolleyes:
Small steps i suppose...

TeraByte
Oct 16th, 2009, 05:02 PM
... Radwanska has a certain ceiling on a tennis court, but if these players are in-form they´ll beat her every time: Williams sisters, Safina, Azarenka, Sharapova, Clijsters, Henin, Jankovic, Ivanovic, Zvonareva, Pennetta, Petrova, Hantuchova, Wozniacki, Kuznetsova, Dementieva, Bartoli...

Yeah: especially Pennetta, Azarenka and Bartoli;)

Fantasy Hero
Oct 16th, 2009, 05:08 PM
Yeah: especially Pennetta, Azarenka and Bartoli;)

H2H
with Flavia 1-1
with Vika 1-2 (Vika won last two)
with Marion 4-0

those are the stats :p

¤CharlDa¤
Oct 16th, 2009, 05:45 PM
Lucie :sad:

AnnaK_4ever
Oct 16th, 2009, 05:55 PM
i know how brainless can be Flavia, that in the end won at least the first set, but i don't want anyone to think i hate Aga only coz she's ahead of Flavia in the ranking...the reason is that i cannot stand her game because i hate defenders and people who don't put some power on the ball

And you are a fan of Pennetta, Kirilenko and, out of all people, Wozniacki? Now, seriously???

M&M
Oct 16th, 2009, 06:12 PM
congratulations aga!

this board is getting so bitchy, i am getting tired of it. i am not enjoying it anymore. i don't know what happened to the board within the last few years. i am a member here for almost 10 years now and when i started here, there was noone fighting like that. It was about tennis and not about hate. i have the feeling many of the posters today, would have hated a lot of players from the 90ies and early 2000. there were many as you so call it pushers playing on the tour and they had many fans and admires and noone was bitching having them around. amanda coetzer for example was one of the best players around. no she never won a slam but she produced great maches and real tennis fans will remember her for that. i have truely to admit, i am missing her a lot. her matches vs. the top players were entertaining, high quality.

everyone's goal is it to win a slam, but not everyone will reach it. anke huber for example was one of the greatest players around and she definetly was not a "pusher" - did she win a slam? no, she did not, had "only" 12 tournament wins. but will also be remembered by many fans.

well, many players have different styles and games, you should respect them for their own achievements. tennis is about winning the last point, no matter if you win with great, powerful, offensive ground strokes, serve and volley, or great defence tactics. you have to be better on that one fucking match. and if you fucking win the last point, don't tell me you didn't deserve to win. and don't tell me someone deserved to win hitting 2 many unforced errors having hit some great winners, when there is a player who did a fuck to hit an error in this match.

i am really pissed by some posters here. i respect every player here so please do the same and don't talk about a person, like it's wort a shit. why being so rude/mean? - i really don't understand... get yourself a fucking life!

AnnaK_4ever
Oct 16th, 2009, 06:22 PM
this board is getting so bitchy, i am getting tired of it. i am not enjoying it anymore.

Then follow your own advice:


get yourself a fucking life!

sammy01
Oct 16th, 2009, 06:24 PM
And you are a fan of Pennetta, Kirilenko and, out of all people, Wozniacki? Now, seriously???

he/she forgot to add if said player has a supposedly pretty face then its a varied game not pushing lol

TeraByte
Oct 16th, 2009, 06:27 PM
H2H
with Flavia 1-1
with Vika 1-2 (Vika won last two)
with Marion 4-0

those are the stats :p

I am not talking about statistics. Otherwise I should mention Petrova who's HtH with Radwanska is like 1:3, or Hantuchova (2:3), or Dementieva (2:3). But, you know, I am a fair person, and I remember e.g. 2006 when Nadia was in her top form and was very hard to overcome by anybody in the world (and I also cannot exclude a posibility that in-top-form-Dementieva or Hantuchova would once or twice defeat Aga). Still, I also remember final of Eastbourne 2008, when Agnieszka defeated Nadia in her best form after 2006's peak.
But this funny guy, Patrick-something, talks about "beating her every time"...:silly:

Vaidisova Ruled
Oct 16th, 2009, 06:28 PM
Honestly, I don't understand the aga hate.
I remember when I saw her, 2 years ago, and I thought that she was really BORING. And now, I watch her, and I think WTF happened ? is this the same player? And then I watch her 2nd serve and I think, that yes , it is still aga. But she is not pushing anymore. She can hit some winners (from both sides). Her FH is better, and her first serve too. She will never be hitting winners left and right, but she is really far from Wozniacki (in terms of "pushing"). And I find her matches quite interesting.

The Dawntreader
Oct 16th, 2009, 06:30 PM
Radwanksa will be a slam winner and top 5 player :)

Says who?

This late fall spurt is just that.

Mashabator
Oct 16th, 2009, 06:30 PM
Lucie :sobbing: 2 set points in the tiebreak!!
GL in MOSCOW :banana:

Lunaris
Oct 16th, 2009, 06:32 PM
Top notch retriever usually beats extremely one-dimensional baseline machine.
Same old shit, Lucka. But I don't care anymore...

Shvedbarilescu
Oct 16th, 2009, 06:36 PM
Says who?

This late fall spurt is just that.

And what makes you so sure of that?

The Dawntreader
Oct 16th, 2009, 06:38 PM
This match highlighted the two, totally unnegotiable extremes of Safarova's game.

She has a superlative forehand when her footwork is down, and she actually controls the point with a certain amount of dominance, whilst being able to change the direction of the play (often DTL with her off-forehand).

The other extreme is just her general insane shot-selection. Not quite on the Kvitova scale of returning-madness, but pretty close. That drive-volley on her penultimate set-point:o

Radwanska is absolutely spent, and is ripe for a defeat really. I doubt Kvitova will suceed though.

The Dawntreader
Oct 16th, 2009, 06:40 PM
And what makes you so sure of that?

I've yet to see the consistency in high-callibre performances to indicate a Slam win.

Her match against Dementieva was fairly impressive, granted, but i haven't see anything that formidable that would suggest top 5 and certainly not a Slam winning performance.

Maybe i'll be proven wrong. I usually am.

AcesHigh
Oct 16th, 2009, 06:44 PM
Says who?

This late fall spurt is just that.


I'm not sure but she has the talent and more importantly the brain to do really well. There's a lot of improvement that can be made which can't be said for most of these ballbashers. And looking at the upcoming players she won't have too much competition that will make a slam impossible

sammy01
Oct 16th, 2009, 06:52 PM
hey if caro is top 5 and a slam RU thers no reason aga cant be. Aga actually has much more feel on the racket.

toxina90
Oct 16th, 2009, 07:02 PM
That´s all cool, just don´t tell me, she´ll ever win a Slam or be a complete top 5 tennis player. She is a top 3 rubberwall right now. She can make her opponents lose, she can´t beat them actively. Radwanska has a certain ceiling on a tennis court, but if these players are in-form they´ll beat her every time: Williams sisters, Safina, Azarenka, Sharapova, Clijsters, Henin, Jankovic, Ivanovic, Zvonareva, Pennetta, Petrova, Hantuchova, Wozniacki, Kuznetsova, Dementieva, Bartoli. Radwanska´s best is just not good enough to be an elite player. She plays a consistent pusher game, but these 2nd serves in the tiebreak today were so bad Steffi Graf would hit outright winners on each of them, even at age 40 without much pratice. It speaks volumes of what a player Safarova is that she didn´t even take control of the point with her returns.

And what is Radwanska winning exactly that haters should be upset about?

This year she has a record of
2-8 against top 10 players (one win against Ivanovic)
13-14 against top 30 players
and seven more losses to players outside the top 30.

She is what she is. Consistent and average at her best.

I think you're spot on (although her win against Ivanovic was quite impressive, from quite a bad deficit on clay)

M&M
Oct 16th, 2009, 07:25 PM
Then follow your own advice:
trust me i have one.
i just think it's so sad, when i come here to follow the game and what's happening around it and have to read all those fights.

Alex03Maccy
Oct 16th, 2009, 07:51 PM
aga and her game are really growing on me. she plays really smart and she's not a pusher like i used to think. it's hilarious when she puffs out her little polish chubby cheeks and the ugh fed up expression.

volta
Oct 16th, 2009, 07:54 PM
that drop shot ROS :drool:

MBM
Oct 16th, 2009, 07:55 PM
like both. happy the higher ranked player got through... lucie :hug:

is1531
Oct 16th, 2009, 08:00 PM
I have a question to the Aggie fans; is she really 5ft 11". All along I thought she was 5ft 9". It's hard to tell on TV.

Mahon_Lorcan
Oct 16th, 2009, 08:03 PM
Aga great!:) Good match:) Good luck against Kvitova..

Beat
Oct 16th, 2009, 08:04 PM
Radwanska has and will always be nothing, but a pusher.

you know, this "accusation" has become so tiring. i get the impression that everyone who's not a baseline ballbasher is called a pusher these days. at least in the case of radwanska, it's a vacuous, cowardly and simply not very intelligent thing to say. and it's become so, so :yawn:

volta
Oct 16th, 2009, 08:06 PM
you know, this "accusation" has become so tiring. i get the impression that everyone who's not a baseline ballbasher is called a pusher these days. at least in the case of radwanska, it's a vacuous, cowardly and simply not very intelligent thing to say. and it's become so, so :yawn:

:yeah:

TeraByte
Oct 16th, 2009, 08:47 PM
I have a question to the Aggie fans; is she really 5ft 11". All along I thought she was 5ft 9". It's hard to tell on TV.
She's of approximately same height as Kuznetsova or Cornet. So 5'8" - 5'8 1/2" at the most. Officially 5'8". Her sister Ula can be 5'11".

Martian Jeza
Oct 16th, 2009, 08:55 PM
I'd like to congratulate the guys who couldn't let the Aga Radwanska vs Caroline Wozniacki debate in a thread where we talk about the match of Aga against Lucie Safarova ! It seems people have nothing better than this which is very sad. And the worse of it, there is somewhere in this forum section a topic about the debate A. Radwanska vs Caroline Wozniacki : talk about it there instead of poluating this thread full of things that have nothing to do with the topic subject.

gaja kesari
Oct 16th, 2009, 09:01 PM
Well done Agnieszka. Good win over an opponent growing in confidence. What a tie-break! Congratulations!
Lucie - better luck next time.

is1531
Oct 16th, 2009, 09:53 PM
She's of approximately same height as Kuznetsova or Cornet. So 5'8" - 5'8 1/2" at the most. Officially 5'8". Her sister Ula can be 5'11".

Thanks for the update. The funny thing is I don't see her taller sister hitting the ball any harder,lol.I hope Kivitova does not get shellshocked if Radwanska retrieves some tough shots in the corner. When you play Radwanska you have to pick your spots to play for winners, sort of in the same fashion that Pennetta plays. Pennetta looks for weaknesses with the game in progress.

Uschi
Oct 16th, 2009, 10:12 PM
Congrats Aga! ;):yeah:

frequentflyer
Oct 16th, 2009, 10:33 PM
She's of approximately same height as Kuznetsova or Cornet'8. So 5'8" - 5'8 1/2" at the most. Officially 5'8". Her sister Ula can be 5'11".
Unlikely. As per WTA, Ula is just 2 centimetres, or three-quarters of an inch taller. And this looks realistic, too.
http://polishtennis.org/PTAhistory/Photos/Agnieszka_Ula_Karolina_2.jpg

slamchamp
Oct 16th, 2009, 11:31 PM
vomit

AndreConrad
Oct 16th, 2009, 11:37 PM
Congrats Agnieszka :yeah:
Lucie :hug:

rucolo
Oct 16th, 2009, 11:39 PM
Strong win, Aga!:yeah::hearts::bounce:

Lucie:hug:
Very talented girl, good Linz tournament, could have reached Final if she was in the Top half.

Great match with many fantastic points.:drool:

Keep going, Aga!


Pathetic haters.:lol:
Having haters means Aga is successful.:devil:

Malva
Oct 17th, 2009, 01:47 AM
http://polishtennis.org/PTAhistory/Photos/Agnieszka_Ula_Karolina_2.jpg

A great picture. When and where taken? Who is in it (besides the three girls we all know)?

Matt.
Oct 17th, 2009, 03:27 AM
Malva, I think that picture was posted in our Photos and Videos thread in 'Pole Position'. There might be more information where it was posted.

is1531
Oct 17th, 2009, 04:45 AM
A great picture. When and where taken? Who is in it (besides the three girls we all know)?

Caroline looking as stunning as ever. Thanks for the photo. It should delight all the drooling men in here. :):wavey: Love Sharapova, Caroline and Lisicki.

is1531
Oct 17th, 2009, 04:48 AM
Unlikely. As per WTA, Ula is just 2 centimetres, or three-quarters of an inch taller. And this looks realistic, too.
http://polishtennis.org/PTAhistory/Photos/Agnieszka_Ula_Karolina_2.jpg

They posted the 5ft 11" for Radwanska during the round of 16 before the match started. I never did believe it.

Corswandt
Oct 17th, 2009, 02:30 PM
well, many players have different styles and games, you should respect them for their own achievements.

[...]

i am really pissed by some posters here. i respect every player here so please do the same and don't talk about a person, like it's wort a shit. why being so rude/mean? - i really don't understand... get yourself a fucking life!

Tell that to frenchie:

Whoever taught tennis to Safarova and Kvitova should be banned from tennis
He would be a good baseball coach though!

Funny how the TF pro-pusher lobby is so quick to demand respect for their favourite players when they are the ones not showing any respect for shotmakers - or for their fans, for that matter.

Baseball then. Do I go around saying that Radwanska, Errani or Duque Marińo should pick up badminton? Do I ever deny that their game can be effective in certain circumstances?

No.

Does frenchie go around claiming that shotmakers are stupid?

Yes.

Kvitova is just an awful tennis player (not talking about look here):o
Everything she does is dumb. So there are some amazing winners from time to time but how many stupid mistakes between them.
I'm sorry but that's not tennis to me;

Does ChrisCHorse of DeadCeausescu or whatever it is he's calling himself now accuse fans of shotmakers of being stupid?

Yes.

We've had this discussion before (http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=13752881&postcount=1), so I'll leave it at that.

Lulu.
Oct 17th, 2009, 02:42 PM
Well done Aga. :D

Nice try Lucie. :hug:

AndreConrad
Oct 17th, 2009, 02:48 PM
Tell that to frenchie:
Funny how the TF pro-pusher lobby is so quick to demand respect for their favourite players when they are the ones not showing any respect for shotmakers - or for their fans, for that matter.
Baseball then. Do I go around saying that Radwanska, Errani or Duque Marińo should pick up badminton? Do I ever deny that their game can be effective in certain circumstances?
No.
Does frenchie go around claiming that shotmakers are stupid?
Yes.
Does ChrisCHorse of DeadCeausescu or whatever it is he's calling himself now accuse fans of shotmakers of being stupid?
Yes.
We've had this discussion before (http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=13752881&postcount=1), so I'll leave it at that.
I am not sure what are you driving at, there are examples on both sides of the fanbase :shrug:... don't make it personal; it lowers the perception of the objectivity of your otherwise great writing.

Corswandt
Oct 17th, 2009, 02:58 PM
Anyways, lengthy and very belated notes on this.

This was the kind of match which, from the very first points, was obvious Safarova would never win, no matter how tight the match became, unless there was a sharp decline in Radwanska's performance level. :eek: at those DTL running FH winners though.

Some unusual problems for Safarova: her BH DTL wasn't working - as in, at all; tons of needless errors in the 1st set, and still a few in the 2nd - and this limited her options and made her ground game even more predictable. She also struggled somewhat with the lack of depth and pace of Radwanska's standard rally shots, which threw her highly mechanical stroke production slightly off balance throughout.

Some usual problems for Safarova: her complete inability to do anything at all that requires her to step forward into the court, be it apparently straightforwad midcourt rally shots, drive volleys, running down dropshots or putting balls away at the net. This is the kind of thing we are bound to expect from a raw junior ballbasher, but Safarova is now 22 y.o. and still showing no signs of improvement. In case you're still looking for the reasons why such a spectactular shotmaker isn't solid top 20 like so many claim she could be, look no further.

Radwanska anticipated Safarova's somewhat predictable serve extremely well - even going as far as attacking it and hitting a few ROS winners. No mean feat for someone as underpowered as her. She also played from further behind the baseline than she usually does, and absorbed Safarova's superior power with some ease throughout up until she got the errors she needed to take the match. Not pretty, but it did the business.

But there's no denying that Radwanska was merely pushing for most of the TB. Safarova did a GOAT Ivanovic, going for absurdly low % play when MP down and pulling it off, but the chances she otherwise wasted nullified such heroics. The MP she lost saw Radwanska at her most pushy, merely looping the ball in as if she was going for an impression of Wozniacki at her worst.

Corswandt
Oct 17th, 2009, 02:59 PM
I am not sure what are you driving at, there are examples on both sides of the fanbase :shrug:... don't make it personal; it lowers the perception of the objectivity of your otherwise great writing.

When did I ever claim to be objective? :confused:

AndreConrad
Oct 17th, 2009, 03:06 PM
When did I ever claim to be objective? :confused:
Good point ... opinionated & enterntaining >>>> objective :yeah: