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LoveMeansZero
Sep 13th, 2009, 10:44 PM
Hold it! Before you vote yes, watch the video and read on...

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Sequence goes from 0:36 to 0:42.
0:36 - 0:38 ==> you see the shadow under her shoe far from the line
0:39 ==> her shoe covers the shadow exactly at the same spot where the shadow was before
0:40 - 0:42 ==> she lifts her heel, leaving the front of her foot still at the same spot.

I know the angle makes it appear that the foot is touching the line, but if you follow the shadow, it's clear that it isn't the case.

Zweli
Sep 13th, 2009, 10:53 PM
Inconclusive

vettipooh
Sep 13th, 2009, 10:54 PM
No.

RJWCapriati
Sep 13th, 2009, 10:56 PM
No foot fault

youizahoe
Sep 13th, 2009, 10:57 PM
No, and it's already known that it wasn't one, and was added to the investigation.

Foxy
Sep 13th, 2009, 10:58 PM
It doesn't matter if her foot was or was not touching the line, there is no justfication for Serena cussing and threathening the line judge because she knows the proper protocol to follow.

Everybody makes mistakes, but there is a way to handle it.

Serena still had another chance to serve and get another point and she still had another chance to win the game because it wasn't over despite her having a foot fault call.

Serena lost because of her own actions, and it's over and she just has to move on.

Bosco123
Sep 13th, 2009, 10:59 PM
No, and it's already known that it wasn't one, and was added to the investigation.

Is it official? can you provide a link ?

thanks in advance.

spiritedenergy
Sep 13th, 2009, 11:00 PM
No, and it's already known that it wasn't one, and was added to the investigation.

are you sure???

It doesn't look like, but we can't see well... I just wonder whether that same linesperson was in Venus' matches as well...

goldenslam888
Sep 13th, 2009, 11:02 PM
the lineperson is sitting right on the line with a few hundred people looking over her shoulder.

it would take real balls to make a bad call, at that time, against fellow american, serena williams, at the us open.

just get over it. that day, serena played like a loser and acted like one.

Bosco123
Sep 13th, 2009, 11:05 PM
the lineperson is sitting right on the line with a few hundred people looking over her shoulder.

it would take real balls to make a bad call, at that time, against fellow american, serena williams, at the us open.

just get over it. that day, serena played like a loser and acted like one.

Why would the line judge be afraid??? I mean it's not like Mariana Alvez got a punishment for her behaviour in US open 2004???

BlameSerena
Sep 13th, 2009, 11:15 PM
Is it official? can you provide a link ?

thanks in advance.

In the investigation article they say that the video will be reviewed. I assume that means the call too, but who knows?

LoveMeansZero
Sep 13th, 2009, 11:17 PM
the lineperson is sitting right on the line with a few hundred people looking over her shoulder.

it would take real balls to make a bad call, at that time, against fellow american, serena williams, at the us open.

just get over it. that day, serena played like a loser and acted like one.

No, I think that lines woman is just stupid, pure and simple.

DragonFlame
Sep 13th, 2009, 11:20 PM
Obviously with this angle of video no one can make the right decision. The only thing you can see is serena adjusted her foot at the last minute(the front of her foot as well, look closely), it went a little foreward. You canīt see if itīs touching the line from this angle. A linesman should, from the angle where she was sitting... If we don't get a better video you have to go with the angle from where the linesman was sitting.

Matt01
Sep 13th, 2009, 11:31 PM
Obviously with this angle of video no one can make the right decision.


Uh, don't be ridiculous! Didn't you read the opening post? Some Serena fans are clearly able to tell from that angle that there was "clearly" no double fault. Or do you actually think the those Serena fans who have claimed so are maybe biased? :p

Talula
Sep 13th, 2009, 11:31 PM
Oh Serena. I don't have words. I feel for Kim but I also feel for Serena. Not the first time she has had controversial calls at the US Open.

MBM
Sep 13th, 2009, 11:43 PM
from that angle, you can tell it is extremely close, whether it is or isn't a foot fault.

the argument that the lineswoman did her job is perfectly valid. but any tennis fan knows that footfaults are frequently ignored, and it is unfair to serena to ignore so many footfaults at other times and then call one at such an important moment

V's a star
Sep 13th, 2009, 11:44 PM
After watching the video again u can clearly see at 00:40 her front foot does slip or slide slightly which i doubt happens everytime lol, probably resulting in a real foot fault. i didnt think so last night

Marty-Dom
Sep 14th, 2009, 01:08 AM
There is video from another angle. CBS had it during the men's semi. I have seen it once, and my impression was, that her foot did not touch the line, but I would like to see it again. Anyone has a link to it or a recording of the broadcast from today?

LeRoy.
Sep 14th, 2009, 01:10 AM
From what i can see the verdict is no foot fault .

Lindsayfan32
Sep 14th, 2009, 01:12 AM
There is one point everyone is missing here. It not the foot fault that's the issue. It was Serena did after the call was made. Serena threatened a linesperson.That's the issue.

Apoleb
Sep 14th, 2009, 01:14 AM
Her foot slid sideways, and I'm guessing this is what triggered the footfault call. I'd like to see other footage of her serving, but I don't think that's normal occurance for her. Still, the camera angle isn't good enough to tell us anything. We can't even see the line so anyone trying to make anything conclusive out of this is a dumbass, really.

matty
Sep 14th, 2009, 01:16 AM
There is one point everyone is missing here. It not the foot fault that's the issue. It was Serena did after the call was made. Serena threatened a linesperson.That's the issue.

Well maybe to Serena it's a pretty huge issue--it cost her a point in a GS semi.

That said, I do beleive she was way out of line with her threats.

lurker
Sep 14th, 2009, 01:20 AM
To me, it appears as if the outside edge of the ball of her foot pivots enough that it probably touched the line. Anyway, it was not the first foot fault of the match. She got called at something like 3-2 serving to consolidate a break. And whether it was a foot fault or not, she didn't need to carry on at the lineswoman. She did it because she was losing, and losing her temper. So what if she is a hot head. She'll take her punishment and move on. She'll still be one of my favorites on the WTA.

Sloan299
Sep 14th, 2009, 01:29 AM
Maybe you could see something in a full HD resolution video. However, these youtube videos are pointless.