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Wannabeknowitall
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:09 AM
The match was not defaulted. There happened to be a point penalty on that gave Kim the win.
Regardless most betting sites are calling this win a default which means anyone who betted for Jersey Kim (me being one :devil:), will not get paid. :lol:

SharapovaFTW
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:11 AM
Replayed it on my tivo a few times, and I swear on everything that is holy Serena said "I will take this ball and shove it down your FUCKING throat!" Not sure what she said the 2nd time she went back over to her, but I read her lips clear as day. Just wanted to clear that up for everyone.

TheBoiledEgg
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:11 AM
going to check if i got my stake back for Serena win

hacberto
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:12 AM
She also said " You don't know me!!"

TheBoiledEgg
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:13 AM
assholes :fiery:

Sally Struthers
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:13 AM
it's not a real threat. Like Serena would actually walk up to the lady and force a ball down her fucking throat :o

DOUBLEFIST
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:14 AM
Replayed it on my tivo a few times, and I swear on everything that is holy Serena said "I will take this ball and shove it down your FUCKING throat!" Not sure what she said the 2nd time she went back over to her, but I read her lips clear as day. Just wanted to clear that up for everyone.

Yep. That is what she said.

Can't say I blame her though. I shared the sentiment at the time. :shrug:

Unfortunately, you can't say that.

The funny/ridiculous thing about it is it seems THERE WAS NO FOOT FAULT.

SharapovaFTW
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:14 AM
Which would KILL a person :help:

If that was said it was the 2nd time, but no I didn't see that the first time she spoke to her.

Wiggly
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:15 AM
There's a stream for Serena's press conference on From Sport.
The 3rd one.

You can hear the camera's flashes like Paris Hilton is walking nude in LA downtown.

Patrick345
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:16 AM
I don´t believe it. Which site?

Noctis
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:16 AM
:rolleyes: Please dont just assume you need proof

TS
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:16 AM
Well physically shoving a tennis ball down someone's throat would most likely kill them, yes.

-VSR-
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:17 AM
I'd say the same, that woman is dumb as shit.

Ken Lee
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:18 AM
Serena would never say such a thing! She may be a catty diva but she is still harmless!

Havok
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:18 AM
:rolleyes: Please dont just assume you need proof

They showed the replay and it was clear as day in regards to what she said to the linesperson. The proof exists.

LDVTennis
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:19 AM
Yep. That is what she said.

Can't say I blame her though. I shared the sentiment at the time. :shrug:

Unfortunately, you can't say that.

The funny/ridiculous thing about it is it seems THERE WAS NO FOOT FAULT.

From behind, the replay showed that her front foot slid sideways before she launched herself into the serve. If it slid over the line, that is a foot fault.

AnomyBC
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:19 AM
For the record, if she hadn't cursed, but DID threaten to kill her, would that still be a code violation?

Kipling
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:19 AM
LOL at the Serena apologists. I guess on a tennis court they'd argue that you get a pass for what for the rest of us would be a criminal offense called ASSAULT.


She got the same penalty anyone else would have gotten --a single point for a code violation. Only, she was a big enough moron to do it on match point... :LOL:

Sally Struthers
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:19 AM
Which would KILL a person :help:

hon you made it back from Arthur Ashe Stadium pretty quick to post here. They must have run you out after you made that foot fault call :haha: ;)

Wannabeknowitall
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:20 AM
There were a few bad calls on Kim's 1st serves in the first set, two straight ones in fact.
Both were confirmed to be out.
Serena does have the best rate when it comes to challenges so she could have done so BUT regardless it seems that linesjudge is blind.

Congratulations on Kim's second US Open.

bandabou
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:20 AM
She lost her cool...I think she had a deja vu of the '04 QF..

mauresmofan
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:20 AM
I put 20 euro on Kim at 14/1 to win the tournament now that doesn't look like the punt I thought it was prior to the Open. 1 more match and hopefully she won't be a nervous wreck for it!

Jacey
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:20 AM
no, she didn"t say anything about killing somebody....watching serena interview right now & Serena said she misheard...she thought the lines woman said serena said she was gonna kill her then the lines judge said "i didn't say that" then serena was like oh.

SvetaPleaseWin.
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:21 AM
it wasnt a foot fault. shouldnt have been called.

and she didnt do anything worth being defaulted. end of. if she did say she'd shove the ball down the lasses throat, acceptable imo-considering she didnt foot fault on a match point like the lass claimed. should have just played second serve, kim would have won and people would have been happy.

Joana
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:21 AM
it's not a real threat. Like Serena would actually walk up to the lady and force a ball down her fucking throat :o

Of course nobody thinks she would actually do it, but could the umpire do anything else? She was bullying an official and that's not allowed.

AnomyBC
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:21 AM
Well physically shoving a tennis ball down someone's throat would most likely kill them, yes.

In Serena's defense, I think a person could potentially be able to survive that if they got the ball out fast enough. On a related note, if she HAD shoved the ball down her throat, would THAT have been a code violation?

Wannabeknowitall
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:22 AM
I don´t believe it. Which site?

www.bookmaker.com

Noctis
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:23 AM
They showed the replay and it was clear as day in regards to what she said to the linesperson. The proof exists.

I also made out she said.

Why the hell did you call that.That would kill me.

So no one knows.

TheBoiledEgg
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:23 AM
William Hill

bet they took it both ways

plantman
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:27 AM
They showed the replay and it was clear as day in regards to what she said to the linesperson. The proof exists.

So the boo's were fitting!

MBM
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:27 AM
that's what i thought she said too.

Serena should NEVER have said that
Serena had a right to be angry
I would have done the same thing
I feel sorry for the lineswoman

I don't know where I stand, these thoughts contrast too much...

DimaDinosaur
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:29 AM
I'd say the same, that woman is dumb as shit.

I agree with Serena on this one, that linesfool needs new glasses and some common sense. There was no foot fault and how dare she call it this late in the match. It's like the 25 second rule between serves at the end of a great match. The umpire understands because he/she has common sense. This fool typically follows rules without knowing what they are for. :rolleyes:

SharapovaFTW
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:30 AM
I also made out she said.

Why the hell did you call that.That would kill me.

So no one knows.

Stop being an idiot, I'm sorry, but Serena clearly said what I posted. I watched the replay atleast 10 times to make sure before I posted. Show some class in defeat.

Steff_forever
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:31 AM
Serena is just such a sore loser. If you need to intimidate a linesmen with threats to get a decision overturned is just so f...ly unsportsmanlike

spiritedenergy
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:31 AM
was she the same who footfaulted Venus like crazy???

I hope not...

That wasn't a footfault at all, Serena was robbed of a crucial point, crazy and shameful:help:

Joana
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:34 AM
I also made out she said.

Why the hell did you call that.That would kill me.

So no one knows.

I heard her say: I think you're a wonderful person. Let's go out to dinner tonight. If you refuse, it will kill me. I will shove this ball down my fucking throat.

Indeed, no one knows.

MrSerenaWilliams
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:41 AM
They missed a Kim DF, and it was on that side too :haha:

thrust
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:41 AM
[QUOTE=SerenaRulz4Life;16481674]Serena would never say such a thing! They should not have bleeped her comments on tv. People should know what an intimidating bully Serena is. A great athlete and LADY deservedly won tonight. Thankfully, TRASH LOST!

bandabou
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:42 AM
Serena is just such a sore looser. If you need to intimidate a linesmen with threats to get a decision overturned is just so f...ly un sportsmanlike

I can understand that. I know too you wanted Kim to win more than Serena, so you're not entirely objective.

Serena lost her cool, shame on her...but say this to yourself: How would you've reacted?

OohZuzana
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:43 AM
Transcribed using enhanced audio :worship:

http://www.thedailyforehand.com/2009/9/12/1027913/i-swear-to-god-ill-fucking-take

Patrick345
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:44 AM
Depending on how large the bet was I´d complain. The match was completed. It´s listed as 6-4 7-5 on the official US Open site, not as 6-4 6-5 15-40 DQ or retirement.

cellophane
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:44 AM
I would have to say no... even though it cost her the match, she will keep cursing away and telling people she'll get them in the locker room in future matches.

Geertvg
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:44 AM
Ok ok Kim was so much worse than Serena and she was robbed and all that. We get it.

goldenslam888
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:45 AM
I agree with Serena on this one, that linesfool needs new glasses and some common sense. There was no foot fault and how dare she call it this late in the match. It's like the 25 second rule between serves at the end of a great match. The umpire understands because he/she has common sense. This fool typically follows rules without knowing what they are for. :rolleyes:

THINK OF THE BRIGHT SIDE, SERENA HAS AN EXCUSE.

sammy01
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:45 AM
what makes me laugh are people saying footfault shouldn't be called at such a point in a match, so at what point does breaking the rules become ok in a match. if its 15-15 in the 3rd shall we not call balls out either, cus of the point of the match?

Thanx4nothin
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:45 AM
"I swear to God I'll fucking take this ball and shove it down your fucking throat! Do you hear me? I swear to God. You better be glad--you better be fucking glad that I'm not, I swear."
:lol::lol::lol:

Wannabeknowitall
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:45 AM
Is it pathetic of me that I still wish she was talking to me like that? :tape:

2moretogo
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:45 AM
hahahhaha...

2moretogo
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:46 AM
Serena, I mean golly, and you thought you weren't gonna get tossed for that? Seriously?

gmokb
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:47 AM
My only problem with Serena is that she didn't slap the damn idiot.:mad:

Olórin
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:47 AM
Have you not read my signature?

Sally Struthers
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:47 AM
:lol: I'm ultra competitive and a bit of a hothead myself so I understand completely :o

WowWow
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:47 AM
I heard her say: I think you're a wonderful person. Let's go out to dinner tonight. If you refuse, it will kill me. I will shove this ball down my fucking throat.

Indeed, no one knows.

:lol::lol::lol:

Joana
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:48 AM
My only problem with Serena is that she didn't slap the damn idiot.:mad:

You hate Serena so much that you don't ever want to see her on tennis court again?

starin
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:48 AM
she did say that on the replay.
:lol: Love you Serena!!
still can't believe they gave her a point penalty at match point when they almost never give out point penalties on the regular tour.

WowWow
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:49 AM
I hope not.

spiritedenergy
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:49 AM
i mean to call a foot fault at the point of the match, that's fishy... i bet that idiot just wanted to favor Kim in every way...

Kim played great though, congrats to her, but Serena could have still won, it was a robbery, shame on the WTA (or ITF)!

gmokb
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:51 AM
Serena is just such a sore looser. If you need to intimidate a linesmen with threats to get a decision overturned is just so f...ly un sportsmanlike

She was not being a sore loser, just tired of these stupid people they have calling her game.:mad: Serena has been down before and fought back so who's to tell that she wouldn't have done so again.

bandabou
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:52 AM
what makes me laugh are people saying footfault shouldn't be called at such a point in a match, so at what point does breaking the rules become ok in a match. if its 15-15 in the 3rd shall we not call balls out either, cus of the point of the match?

Are they really comparable? An error is an error and you can ask hawk eye for proof no?!

QUEENLINDSAY
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:53 AM
what happened is lame!!!
I can't totally blame Serena as I can see where she is coming from, however, she still loses her cool.
As for the linesman, i dont think its necesarry to call it on such a crucial point, unless you have some replays or hawkeye to prove it.
As for Kim, she would win this eitherway so its also sad for her winning this way.

Lets forget about it!!!

GO KIM!!!!!

AkademiQ
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:53 AM
Forget the incident, Serena needs to win when she's supposed to. She shouldn't lose her temper. Great, I want her winning slams and couldn't care less about everything else unless like today it aided in her defeat along with Kim's play.

gmokb
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:54 AM
You hate Serena so much that you don't ever want to see her on tennis court again?

Sweetie no way possible could I not love my baby girl:kiss: I am just so pissed with those damn idiots who keep calling Serena's game. It keeps happening to Serena over and over and always mat crucial times in the game.:mad:

50Sense
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:55 AM
Serena deserved to lose the match. I'm so disappointed in her behavior.

But oddly, at the same time, I'm not even upset. At least this makes good entertainment...

MrSerenaWilliams
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:55 AM
Ok ok Kim was so much worse than Serena and she was robbed and all that. We get it.

who said anything about Kim being worse than Serena? :shrug: She played a GREAT match. Serena even said so :shrug:

Keegan
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:56 AM
There were actually quite a lot of balls on that side of the court that should've been called out for Kim. One happened early in the match, even Serena was conufsed, but we all know the WS never challenge. Even the commentators said she was "flirting with the lines."

She played beautifully though did Kim. She's very good for the sport :).

OohZuzana
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:56 AM
Serena, I mean golly, and you thought you weren't gonna get tossed for that? Seriously?

Yeah, it was beyond anything I've ever heard :tape:.

MrSerenaWilliams
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:56 AM
From behind, the replay showed that her front foot slid sideways before she launched herself into the serve. If it slid over the line, that is a foot fault.

If it didn't, then that line judge just ruined a great match.

Either way, Serena shouldn't have said that.

jenglisbe
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:58 AM
And then Serena said in the press conference that she didn't make a threat but also couldn't really remember what she said. Blatant lying.

I sympathized with her regarding the calls in that Capriati match and when Henin cheated against her, but now Serena has blown that. She can't talk about class anymore.

dustgistoy
Sep 13th, 2009, 04:03 AM
Serena deserved to lose the match. I'm so disappointed in her behavior.

But oddly, at the same time, I'm not even upset. At least this makes good entertainment...

I'm so disappointed too. She shouldn't express like that.

ZeroSOFInfinity
Sep 13th, 2009, 04:07 AM
"If I could, I would take this ... ball and shove it down your ... throat and kill you," Williams said.

The line judge went over to the chair umpire, and tournament referee Brian Earley joined in the conversation. Williams then went over and said to the line judge: "I didn't say I would kill you. Are you serious? Are you serious? I didn't say that."



Now wait minute..... which is correct now? :help:

sasha&tennis
Sep 13th, 2009, 05:06 AM
After constant rain delays with no live tennis action at all for the fans to see. When they finally do have some live tennis they end one of the matches that could have possibly went three sets by default. That was poor judgment and not good at all for American tennis. People paid their money to see a match in full not to see a match end that way. They did not consider the fans with that decision.
Not to mention the fact that it did not look like a foot fault. It was entirely too close to even remotely call a foot fault and be confident about the call. They need to have a serve review so that players can see if they truly did made a foot fault or not. Because at that point in a match any player would be upset. So really the more I think of it the fans were robbed (I would want my money back if I was there), Serena was robbed because she felt that she did not make a foot fault & from the review it appears that she did not & lost a match because of a poor call and even worse poor judgment on the referee & lastly Kim was robbed because I know she wanted to win but she never wanted to win like that.
The US Open is really becoming notorious for bad calls & decisions.

disposablehero
Sep 13th, 2009, 05:27 AM
Was it "No new taxes!"?

LudwigDvorak
Sep 13th, 2009, 05:33 AM
I heard her say: I think you're a wonderful person. Let's go out to dinner tonight. If you refuse, it will kill me. I will shove this ball down my fucking throat.

Indeed, no one knows.

You're funny. Have you ever considered standup? You'd be a RIOT, promise.

Randy H
Sep 13th, 2009, 05:36 AM
I'm confused as to why she was given a point penalty for that...Had she already been given a previous warning earlier in the match for something separate?? I thought you were supposed to get a code violation warning first, and then a point penalty after that...

hilluis
Sep 13th, 2009, 05:41 AM
I'm confused as to why she was given a point penalty for that...Had she already been given a previous warning earlier in the match for something separate?? I thought you were supposed to get a code violation warning first, and then a point penalty after that...

After losing the first set, Serena smashed her racquet and got a code violation. Personally, I wonder why some players get code violations for racquet smashing and some do not. Men do it all the time but are not always penalised.

Renalicious
Sep 13th, 2009, 05:42 AM
Everyone was robbed.

I just don't get why the linesjudge needed to tell the umpire, knowing what a huge CONTROVERSY it would cause. I don't know, maybe she wanted to become famous. :shrug:

Ah, who knows...next slam please.

Wannabeknowitall
Sep 13th, 2009, 05:45 AM
Depending on how large the bet was I´d complain. The match was completed. It´s listed as 6-4 7-5 on the official US Open site, not as 6-4 6-5 15-40 DQ or retirement.

Someone must have because the situation has been rectified.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Sep 13th, 2009, 05:46 AM
It was a default

Other players for less than Serena received disqualifications in the past

spencercarlos
Sep 13th, 2009, 05:48 AM
It was a default

Other players for less than Serena received disqualifications in the past
It was not a default. It was a code violation and since she already had one warning, they gave one point to KIm. GSM CLijsters.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Sep 13th, 2009, 05:51 AM
It was not a default. It was a code violation and since she already had one warning, they gave one point to KIm. GSM CLijsters.

Rios got a disqualification by saying fuck you to the umpire or some line judge, I don´t remember exactly. Next to what Serena said , that is nothing

Randy H
Sep 13th, 2009, 05:51 AM
After losing the first set, Serena smashed her racquet and got a code violation. Personally, I wonder why some players get code violations for racquet smashing and some do not. Men do it all the time but are not always penalised.

Ah, thank you for mentioning that :)

I feel bad that the match ended that way, hate to see someone lose a match because of a point penalty, but Serena knows the rules so it is what it is...I agree though, that there ought to be more consistency with making the determination for warnings and penalties as they do seem to differ a great deal from match to match

Rosslyn
Sep 13th, 2009, 05:56 AM
hahaha, what a fiasco...and she played that last game like she's D. Hantuchova

BlameSerena
Sep 13th, 2009, 05:57 AM
Serena deserved to lose the match. I'm so disappointed in her behavior.

But oddly, at the same time, I'm not even upset. At least this makes good entertainment...

:help:

Serena deserved to serve her fate.

LeonHart
Sep 13th, 2009, 05:58 AM
Yep. That is what she said.

Can't say I blame her though. I shared the sentiment at the time. :shrug:

Unfortunately, you can't say that.

The funny/ridiculous thing about it is it seems THERE WAS NO FOOT FAULT.

Even Serena herself said she foot faulted so stop being in denial :lol:

Olórin
Sep 13th, 2009, 11:43 AM
Even Serena herself said she foot faulted so stop being in denial :lol:

No she didn't you lying troll :weirdo: