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janput
Sep 12th, 2009, 11:08 AM
The more I read articles and texts on Wickmayer the more I get the impression that she wants to conquer the world and I have the impression that she added a fan to her fan base (me).

I have seen her play several times and it is indeed true that she does not possess all of the technical skills needed for playing (top)tennis. Moreover she is a ball-basher (don't expect to see lots of drop shots when she is playing, ...). She is aware of this, but she thinks this is not that important (she already stated that she does not really want a coach that forces her to change her game). She has no b-plan. If she is not able to overpower her opponent she gets frustrated and starts to swear at no end.

Not very convincing arguments to support my claim in the thread title ?

BUT there are some arguments routing for her, namely her athletic abilities and her desire to become the best (VERY ambitious).

She has a better body than Kim and Serena. She can endure a lot more training than all of the players on the WTA tour (even more than Sciavone and Stosur)

Justine knew that she got blown off court by Kim, Serena and Venus, so she started training like mad, but Justine got sick after her training at Saddlebrook. Justine trained very hard but didn't have the body to cope with this (injuries, ...). The result was that she was forced to ...

Kim is more flexible, faster and more explosive and has more natural power than Wickmayer and Henin. Only Venus and Serena have greater natural gifts than Kim, but Kim didn't train a lot and thus she got injured quiet easily.

Wickmayer on the other hand is able to train VERY hard and she will do this year after year. She will become faster (why the hell she is not that fast I still can't understand, she has the legs of Graf), because she has the body to do so. She will become a lot more powerful due to her work in the fitness room (Kim refused to do this kind of training because she didn't want to look like a body builder ????). Her power, will power, stamina and endurance will start making the difference the next couple of years. She will start running everybody into the ground. (Wozniacki needs to watch out for the fitness and the power of Wickmayer- Oudin was spent, Wickmayer is still able to run a marathon).

The last couple of weeks Wickmayer has lost 3 very close matches against 3 top players (Kuznetsova, Dementieva and Zvonareva) because she is still not used to closing out matches against top players. The opponents had to fight like hell to beat Wickmayer. At the US Open I noticed that Wickmayer starts playing her best tennis at end of the match. That is not good news for the opponents. If she learns to play the big points, then I can promise you that she will be at least top 10 at the end of next year. Wickmayer is a real street fighter and could become a real star. If she is able to increase the speed and the accuracy (comes with training and experience) of her kick service (only S. Stosur has a similar kick service) I am convinced she will win almost all of her service games.

I have to say she has a lot of annoying traits as well (swearing, outbursts, fake serves, ...)

Pasta-Na
Sep 12th, 2009, 12:00 PM
wickmayer=sammy

terjw
Sep 12th, 2009, 12:06 PM
Wickmayer??? throwing my head back and :rolleyes: in Pam Shriver style. ;)

manu
Sep 12th, 2009, 12:15 PM
She's among the hardest workers, fittest and most determined players on the tour. But I don't think she's even close to becoming the next Henin. She doesn't have the intrinsical talent to become a true top-player (as in 'with a realistic chance to win every Slam she enters'). I don't think she'll ever be able to compensate for that, as hard as she might be willing to work. But if she continues the hard work, I do think she could work herself a way into the top-10, and at some point be a regular threat to make the 2nd week at Slams. I think that's the maximum she could reach. I'd love Yanina to prove me wrong though.

tea
Sep 12th, 2009, 01:29 PM
janput, you have an interesting point of view and made a reliable argumentation - really nice to read. Just hope everything gonna happen in described way. At this stage of her career the future looks bright and promising. And speed of progressing is very high, which is great but even a bit dangerous. We'll see, and hope for the best.:)

gentenaire
Sep 12th, 2009, 01:36 PM
no

Jose.
Sep 12th, 2009, 01:37 PM
I was impressed with her in US open. She beats the ball hard and is very good physically. I really hope she has a great future and I think she is a good addition to WTA tour.

sammy01
Sep 12th, 2009, 01:39 PM
i think this us open will be just a flash in the pan for her. her game just isn't good enough (she will get beat 6-3, 6-2 by caro) and she will be back to struggling for main tour wins again after it.

Geertvg
Sep 12th, 2009, 01:43 PM
Hm, she may become a top 10 player if she keeps her act together, but that's the max she can do. It would be awesome of she did that though. But with a good run in the Australian tour and all who knows.

Serendy Willick
Sep 12th, 2009, 01:45 PM
Great game very impressed.

Sally Struthers
Sep 12th, 2009, 01:55 PM
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3351/pamf.gif (http://img6.imageshack.us/i/pamf.gif/)

AnnaK_4ever
Sep 12th, 2009, 02:22 PM
I even doubt she is the next Fabiola Zuluaga.

cellophane
Sep 12th, 2009, 02:33 PM
:rolls: at Pam

miffedmax
Sep 12th, 2009, 03:01 PM
Too soon to tell. She came through a pitiful draw and didn't really beat anybody to get here--this really just proves she's the least scrubbish of a bunch of scrubs.

Of course, there are other players who have used a soft draw as a launch pad for greatness. And others who have made one semi and then disappeared forever.

The OP obviously has followed her more closely than me, and it sounds like she has some potential. But ALL the women who make it this far have lots of raw talent. Taking it to that next level is 10,000 times harder. We'll see. She has a nice story and even if she has a temper sometimes, I don't mind a little personality and emotion. At the very least, like you say, she's on people's radar now and is probably worth keeping an eye on.

Lena's bangs.

bjurra
Sep 12th, 2009, 03:15 PM
Wickmayer is a decent player, I am sure she will be around in the top 20 for a while, maybe even establish herself in the top 10. But superstar? I dont think so.

Julian.
Sep 12th, 2009, 03:18 PM
What's the definition of a superstar?

colt13
Sep 12th, 2009, 03:22 PM
Nothing wrong with pulling a Majoli.

Great opening post. I may not agree with you in all aspects(after all, comparing her to Justine and Kim is tough), but unlike most of the other up and comers(Wozniacki, Azarenka, Radwanska, Oudin, Larcher de Brito, etc), her serve seems to be her biggest weapon. That may buy her some time in a match when other things are going wrong.

Tennis Fool
Sep 12th, 2009, 03:25 PM
Wow, OP poster registered 7 years ago and this is her first post :eek:

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Sorry, carry on :p

GrandMartha
Sep 12th, 2009, 03:26 PM
:spit:
The girl reached SF at a slam, beating almost only nonames and she's alreadly a superstar :spit:
Honestly Wickmayer's game isn't that impressive with shitty serve and average groundstrokes.
She looks like a top 30 player for me.

Loudman
Sep 12th, 2009, 03:44 PM
She is one of the most committed players ever, tennis is everything for her and she is very determined.
I think she won't be a superstar though because she lacks talent (feeling for the ball).
But she is still young and has an athletic body.
From what I have seen, I guess she should learn to move better first and foremost.
Just my 2 cents.

cellophane
Sep 12th, 2009, 03:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1jvXbIpu-4

What??? what did I say!?

:lol:

AnnaK_4ever
Sep 12th, 2009, 03:58 PM
Nothing wrong with pulling a Majoli.

:weirdo:

Majoli broke into top-10 in the end of 1995 having won back-to-back titles in Zurich and Filderstadt. The following year she made it to #4 in the rankings and only in 1997 she won Roland Garros.

Wickmayer has done nothing so far in her career. Actually she has done nothing at this USO either.

Lunaris
Sep 12th, 2009, 04:00 PM
i think this us open will be just a flash in the pan for her. her game just isn't good enough (she will get beat 6-3, 6-2 by caro) and she will be back to struggling for main tour wins again after it.Just like Oudin.

LudwigDvorak
Sep 12th, 2009, 04:02 PM
If Serena "easily beat" Elena 63 64 like so many claim she did, then Yanina's match with Elena wasn't "very close" either. FYI. And I'd hardly say Kuznetsova after RG has been worth all that much, and Vera is a shadow right now.

Lunaris
Sep 12th, 2009, 04:13 PM
The more I read articles and texts on Wickmayer the more I get the impression that she wants to conquer the world and I have the impression that she added a fan to her fan base (me).

I have seen her play several times and it is indeed true that she does not possess all of the technical skills needed for playing (top)tennis. Moreover she is a ball-basher (don't expect to see lots of drop shots when she is playing, ...). She is aware of this, but she thinks this is not that important (she already stated that she does not really want a coach that forces her to change her game). She has no b-plan. If she is not able to overpower her opponent she gets frustrated and starts to swear at no end.She is smart. There really ain't any need to have a plan B to win Slams. Bashing the ball is enough, but she's gotta be good in this department (aka consistent controlled aggression). Just ask Shazza, V. Williams or Ivanovic.

dsanders06
Sep 12th, 2009, 04:24 PM
I find it amazing that she was playing ITFs earlier this year and now is in a Slam semifinal. Has that ever happened to a player before?

Honestly, she's the first Slam semifinalist in years who I've literally never seen play. Actually, I think I may have seen Daniela Hantuchova playing her at Antwerp in 2008... I remember it was some random Belgian teenager who I'd never heard of at the time, it may have been her.

GoldenGophers
Sep 12th, 2009, 05:14 PM
Once she starts doing well consistently in tour level events then I will not think this run to the semifinal is not a fluke.

colt13
Sep 12th, 2009, 05:35 PM
:weirdo:

Majoli broke into top-10 in the end of 1995 having won back-to-back titles in Zurich and Filderstadt. The following year she made it to #4 in the rankings and only in 1997 she won Roland Garros.

Wickmayer has done nothing so far in her career. Actually she has done nothing at this USO either.

Sorry, didn't intend meant to diss Majoli. I used her because she only won one slam, and was a clear underdog to Hingis, similar to Serena vs the field now. Also Wickmayer is 19, the same age Majoli was when she won. However, unlike the other Suprise slam participants in 09' (Domi, Sam), she has a WTA Tour singles title.

Illusionist
Sep 12th, 2009, 06:11 PM
I think it's too early to say. I've watched her play, she has the shots, but it's a question how mentally tough is she going to be from now on? This popularity, how will this affect her? Well, maybe not popularity, but expectations. You know Stosur played SF at RG and ok, she has had good results since then, but I don't see her as a superstar.

Time will tell, she's got a lot to achieve to make me believe she's got it.