Which player/s do you consider a "thorn in your favourite player's side" ?

:)

Serena :bigcry:
Well the Williams sisters... or else Dani would have had most of her 4R finishes be atleast QFs and her QF finishes atleast SFs :o

Serena.

Hingis for Kournikova. :bigcry:
2 finals against Hingis. :sobbing:

Serena for my current faves.

Bartoli in my fav Jankovic's side. It seems she's always beating her, especially in majors (haven't checked the H2H but it feels like this is always the case lol!)

Ivanovic and Dementieva.

Venus and Serena (Serena wins all the big matches).

Wozniacki and Dementieva.

Justine and Amelie :o

Serena :bigcry:
Well the Williams sisters... or else Dani would have had most of her 4R finishes be atleast QFs and her QF finishes atleast SFs :o

This. :sobbing:

Henin and Graf, also Williams Sisters (Serena only..maybe)

No one :p Marion Bartoli

Anyone good.

cmon amelie fans, i wanna gloat! hehehe

Capriati. Thank God shes gone.
I think about her every time I ride by Saddlebrook :lol::lol:

Myskina
Jankovic
Capriati
V. Williams
Roesch

This. :sobbing:

:bigcry:

:lol: I would think Serena more of a "stake in the heart" than a thorn in the side for some. ;)

Anyway, JCap for a time. The Queater, of course. And let's not forget good ol' Sybille Bammer. :lol:

Graf & Conchita Martinez :sobbing:

Elena Dementieva
Jie Zheng

Serena :bigcry:
Well the Williams sisters... or else Dani would have had most of her 4R finishes be atleast QFs and her QF finishes atleast SFs :o

This and,

Ai Sugiyama -- Jelena Jankovic
Patty Schnyder -- Venus, and Elena D

ELENA DEMENTIEVA

(Jelena Jankovic)
(Venus WIlliams)
(Maria Sharapova)
(Flavia Pennetta..... Oh. Wait. Never mind. :lol:)

capriati on old days

and henin more recentely

i also cringe a little when spotting my eye on zvonareva and kuznetsova

jj

Capriati for Hingis, AO 2001,2002 and also RG 2001 semis, I think Hingis could have won it that year...that's 3 majors. :sad:

Serena :o

Justine Henin

Marion Bartoli
Maria Sharapova
Anna Chakvetadze
Amelie Mauresmo
Sofia Arvidsson
Melanie Oudin

:sobbing:

Henin
Serena
And Davenport to a lesser extent

Please, my fellow Lena D. fans. we must concede that at some point virtually EVERY player has been a thorn in our beloved (if bangless) one's side...

Let us look back in horror on...

Davenport
Venus (extreme horror)
Serena
Nastya (torturing Lena since kindergarten)
JuJu
Momo
JJ
Patti (see my note on Kuzzy)
Dulko (yes, once sported a spiffy 2-0 vs. Lena)
Caro
TOB
Kuzzy (yeah, the h2h isn't bad, it's the WHEN Kuzzy wins)
Safina
Oudin

But of course, the biggest, all-time worst thorn in the side of Elena Dementieva is...











Elena Dementieva. Like Holland at a World Cup, she always finds a way to beat herself.

Nastya (torturing Lena since kindergarten)


No! It must not be named! :speakles: :sobbing:

I think most Russian's have their brain to be the thorn in their side.

Anyone good.
:haha:

Please, my fellow Lena D. fans. we must concede that at some point virtually EVERY player has been a thorn in our beloved (if bangless) one's side...

Let us look back in horror on...

Davenport
Venus (extreme horror)
Serena
Nastya (torturing Lena since kindergarten)
JuJu
Momo
JJ
Patti (see my note on Kuzzy)
Dulko (yes, once sported a spiffy 2-0 vs. Lena)
Caro
TOB
Kuzzy (yeah, the h2h isn't bad, it's the WHEN Kuzzy wins)
Safina
Oudin

But of course, the biggest, all-time worst thorn in the side of Elena Dementieva is...

Elena Dementieva. Like Holland at a World Cup, she always finds a way to beat herself.
:lol::lol:

Serena for Maria:sobbing:
Anygoddamnqualifier for Ana:o
Henin for JJ:crying2:

Zvonerava, That girl has Marion's number.

Herself!

Henin
Bartoli
...

Non-GS tournaments.

Patty stinkin Schnynder
Syblle Bammer
Any left hander
Dementieva (recently)

Non-GS tournaments.

and Clay Courts. :tape:

Henin obviously. If it were not for those 75 57 86 and 46 61 76 losses Myskina would have won OG medal, grasscourt title and most probably got to #1.

Henin -> Venus
Ivanovic -> Dementieva
Safina -> Dementieva
Zvonareva -> Henin
Cornet -> Opponent

Young players she plays for the first time and Serena.

Young players she plays for the first time and Serena.

and Golovin, and Jankovic on clay. :p

For Venus, any lower rank player she's never played before.

For Serena, herself

Safina - Serena, performing at GS finals, her damn serve
Dementieva - Serena at slam events, Jankovic everywhere else
Zvonareva - pushers and ballbashers in the zone
Oudin - pushers like Wozniacki and Radwanska
Azarenka - Safina, Serena, grinders like Dulko and Schiavone
Chakvetadze - anyone with some sort of tennis IQ (excluding her bitches Jankovic and Petrova)

I don't want Elena to ever ever ever have to face Venus Williams again. Ever!

everyone these days :o

Venus has had progressive thorns in her career:lol:

Serena
Jankovic
Pennetta
Mauresmo
Golovin
Novotna

I've probably missed out loads, just to keep Venus's thorns at a minimum :haha:

chak struggles against anyone with any sort of mental strength lol

Jankovic - Henin
Dementieva - Jankovic
Ivanovic - Dementieva

And at the end ofc Jankovic - Ivanovic :lol:

Wicked circle :rolls:

Venus for Justine, 7-2 is a so bad H2H :-s

Venus has had progressive thorns in her career:lol:

Serena
Jankovic
Pennetta
Mauresmo
Golovin
Novotna

I've probably missed out loads, just to keep Venus's thorns at a minimum :haha:

:lol:


to be honest I wonder if Venus fans would consider Serena as a "thorn in Venus' side"... :shrug:

:lol:

I'd add Serena to that list
to be honest I wonder if Venus fans would consider Serena as a "thorn in Venus' side"... :shrug:Pride wont allow most of them to.

Venus Williams in GS finals. :sobbing:

:lol:


to be honest I wonder if Venus fans would consider Serena as a "thorn in Venus' side"... :shrug:

6 Slam losses to one player. That's almost like a dagger in the side, never mind a thorn:lol:

In retrospect, the catalyst for Vaidisova's career suicide was the loss to Serena at that limp and anticlimactic 2008 AO 4R. There were many other losses to Serena, but I don't believe any of them were particularly damaging as those weren't matches Vaidisova was supposed to win anyway.

The player who inflicted Vaidisova the most painful setbacks from a career POV was Kuznetsova. It wasn't just RG 06. IW 07 and Sydney 08 were matches Vaidisova could well have won. Instead those became just further entries into the lengty list of tight matches she lost to top players.

In retrospect, the catalyst for Vaidisova's career suicide was the loss to Serena at that limp and anticlimactic 2008 AO 4R. There were many other losses to Serena, but I don't believe any of them were particularly damaging as those weren't matches Vaidisova was supposed to win anyway.

The player who inflicted Vaidisova the most painful setbacks from a career POV was Kuznetsova. It wasn't just RG 06. IW 07 and Sydney 08 were matches Vaidisova could well have won. Instead those became just further entries into the lengty list of tight matches she lost to top players.

vaidisova is your fave?

Ana's best friends:

Julie Coin
Kateryna Bondarenko
Shuai Peng
Tamira Paszek
Alisa Kleybanova
Jie Zheng
Melinda Czink
Agnes Szavay
Lucie Hradecka
Lucie Safarova

vaidisova is your fave?

She used to be back when I still cared about this shit.

She used to be back when I still cared about this shit.

oh okay. just wondered because for some reason i thought it was Ana. I like Nicole too. :sad:

anyway could you go post your prediction in that Serena vs Kim thread.

Venus - considerably lower ranked and not very well known Eastern Europeans :sobbing:

Henin lol 9-0 against jankovic! that bitch!!!

oh okay. just wondered because for some reason i thought it was Ana.

:rolls:

No, I was one of the idiots who picked Nicole over the future GOAT back in early 2006.

anyway could you go post your prediction in that Serena vs Kim thread.

Mmmkay. :confused:

Ana's best friends:

Julie Coin
Kateryna Bondarenko
Shuai Peng
Tamira Paszek
Alisa Kleybanova
Jie Zheng
Melinda Czink
Agnes Szavay
Lucie Hradecka
Lucie Safarova

Ana is indeed very friendly.

Venus Williams in GS finals. :sobbing:

poor Lindsay
:hug:

6 Slam losses to one player. That's almost like a dagger in the side, never mind a thorn:lol:

:lol:

I'll just do Caro.

Jankovic, Azarenka, Lisicki.

The thorn in my fav's side is her shoulder :sad:

Venus has been a thorn in Serena's side, since 1998 in almost every year except the ones when Serena was #1 :o
Three slams USO, and 2 Wimbledons.

It's almost the other losses, the Miami victories, the YEC thrashings, the Dubai thriller, that annoy me more though.

venus- jankovic
serena- henin

Surprised no one mentioned Flavia Pennetta for Venus Williams since she ..... well, leads the h2h. lol

Henin - nobody, she goes toe to toe with or demolishes anyone. Closest i can think of is amelie mauresmo... That was the only match that really hurt me with justine...

Elena - Venus/Jankovic/Wozniacki/Sharapova/Oudin/Serena at slams/ and probably Kim Clijsters in the near future again.

Henin - nobody, she goes toe to toe with or demolishes anyone. Closest i can think of is amelie mauresmo... That was the only match that really hurt me with justine...

Elena - Venus/Jankovic/Wozniacki/Sharapova/Oudin/Serena at slams/ and probably Kim Clijsters in the near future again.

Venus

Surprised no one mentioned Flavia Pennetta for Venus Williams since she ..... well, leads the h2h. lol

Venus - JJ, Pennetta, Kuzzie

Serena - Kuzzie (Henin before she retired), Elena is any non-slam event

Venus

Neither i nor justine would consider venus a thorn after justine became a champion. :)

Neither i nor justine would consider venus a thorn after justine became a champion. :)

:rolleyes:

After denying Justine slam final berths as well as a Wimbledon title, I feel justine will indeed look back at Venus as a huge thorn in her side...:o

:rolleyes:

After denying Justine slam final berths as well as a Wimbledon title, I feel justine will indeed look back at Venus as a huge thorn in her side...:o

The only match justine admittingly looks back on disappointed is wimbledon final 06, and rightly so. :sad: I doubt she´ll remember losses to venus before she won slams and reached a higher level, that was learning experience. Venus was never a moodbreaker at all during the most important part of justine´s career.

The only match justine admittingly looks back on disappointed is wimbledon final 06, and rightly so. :sad:

That is her perogative I guess...weird though, probably because she thought she could really win that match...Mauresmo was just better on the day.

Anyway, I pretty much view any players who have denied my favs success as a thorn, therefore I must add Masha to the list...that 04 Wimbledon...Serena's career would look EVEN more stellar had she won there, doing the three in a row which had proved impossible since steffi did it...:sad:

Reagrdless, from a mere outsider looking in, Venus and Mauresmo have denied Justine more than any other players in my estimation...

Neither i nor justine would consider venus a thorn after justine became a champion. :)

Henin didn't become a champion for many years because of Venus.
Lost the AO semi to her
Lost Wimbledon semi to her
Lost her first Grand Slam Final to her
Oh no, not a problem, Justine was biding her time.

And you say MAYBE Mauresmo, they're 0-2 in Slam Finals. That's like having an entire rose bush in your side.

I nearly missed that you've now appointed yourself Justine's official spokesperson. Lovely :lol:

That is her perogative I guess...weird though, probably because she thought she could really win that match...Mauresmo was just better on the day.

Anyway, I pretty much view any players who have denied my favs success as a thorn, therefore I must add Masha to the list...that 04 Wimbledon...Serena's career would look EVEN more stellar had she won there, doing the three in a row which had proved impossible since steffi did it...:sad:
Reagrdless, from a mere outsider looking in, Venus and Mauresmo have denied Justine more than any other players in my estimation...

Well to be honest, i don´t think serena should consider anyone a thorn as well. Noone has really stopped her from cashing in and performing over the years consistently well. She's competed with the best and overcame them or either went down to the best playing their best.(just like justine)

I´m saying this with this concept in mind: All athletes go through a 10-year plan, starting out as a child to go through different fases to be succesfull. At the end of that plan it's crunch time. It's the time to perform and show your best capable form. When you have huge champions like serena and justine who can win pretty much everywhere, against anyone, on any given day, and consistently do so racking up slams and titles, i can't consider anyone their thorn. They are the highest achievers.

That's why, in justine's case, i'd consider mauresmo the only thorn because in 'crunch-time' she failed to perform at the only slam she hadn't won.

Favorite: Venus
Thorn: Serena