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LightWarrior
Sep 12th, 2009, 12:31 AM
It is an absolute disgrace for the players. And not only that. First round matches are still on by Wednesday first week. What a mess. It's all about money. Now they see the mess they're into and they totally deserve it.

tennislover
Sep 12th, 2009, 12:34 AM
true

SOA_MC
Sep 12th, 2009, 12:37 AM
Do you really need to make new thread everytime for a post that can easliy go into a thread that's already made?

LightWarrior
Sep 12th, 2009, 12:40 AM
Do you really need to make new thread everytime for a post that can easliy go into a thread that's already made?

Yes I do. I'm frustrated and angry.

MBM
Sep 12th, 2009, 12:56 AM
i prefer the thursday women's semis. i don't like that there are two men's semis on the same day as the women's final. i think the women's final should be left alone...

Caralenko
Sep 12th, 2009, 12:58 AM
i prefer the thursday women's semis. i don't like that there are two men's semis on the same day as the women's final. i think the women's final should be left alone...

Like the other slams. I agree with this, although as a ticket holder I would be disappointed.

KournikovaFan91
Sep 12th, 2009, 01:08 AM
The USO cares more about sponsors and TV than it does about tennis.

harloo
Sep 12th, 2009, 01:21 AM
Yes I do. I'm frustrated and angry.

:lol: You're frustrated and angry over something you have no control over?

Sharapower
Sep 12th, 2009, 01:27 AM
:lol: You're frustrated and angry over something you have no control over?

If something you have control over makes you frustrated and angry, that would suggest you suck dramatically.

Hurley
Sep 12th, 2009, 03:06 AM
And not only that. First round matches are still on by Wednesday first week.

ZERO women's first round matches are played after Tuesday. :speakles:

hdfb
Sep 12th, 2009, 03:25 AM
ZERO women's first round matches are played after Tuesday. :speakles:

Some men's first rounds are on Wednesday, like Nadal's.

Not only that. With a schedule like they have on first week Wednesday, some women advance to the third round before some men have even played their first round. :help:

USO should seriously follow the lead and tradition of all other grand slams and allocate the first two days to first round, the third and fourth days to second round singles and first round doubles, and so forth.

Hurley
Sep 12th, 2009, 03:38 AM
Some men's first rounds are on Wednesday, like Nadal's.

I never said anything to the contrary. :speakles:

Please explain how first-round scheduling affects the OP's original point about the women's SFs. Oh, wait, IT DOESN'T, since it's the same at the USO as it is all Slams.

mboyle
Sep 12th, 2009, 03:45 AM
The USO cares more about sponsors and TV than it does about tennis.

Right...this is surprising...because? Newsflash: money makes the world go 'round. If they can make twice as much money having women's semis on Friday and men's on Saturday, you really expect them to keep it on Thursday just for tradition's or nicety's sake?

mboyle
Sep 12th, 2009, 03:47 AM
Some men's first rounds are on Wednesday, like Nadal's.

Not only that. With a schedule like they have on first week Wednesday, some women advance to the third round before some men have even played their first round. :help:

USO should seriously follow the lead and tradition of all other grand slams and allocate the first two days to first round, the third and fourth days to second round singles and first round doubles, and so forth.

You are quite brazen to tell the most popular annual sporting event in the world how to run its business. What they are doing seems to work better than "tradition" at the other slams.

DOUBLEFIST
Sep 12th, 2009, 03:49 AM
I do wonder, however, how much money they LOSE having to push the tourney.

I'd love to see a cost/benefit analysis of a roof in Flushing Meadow.

Donny
Sep 12th, 2009, 03:50 AM
I do wonder, however, how much money they LOSE having to push the tourney.

I'd love to see a cost/benefit analysis of a roof in Flushing Meadow.

Yearlong maintenance of a roof would likely cost more than it does to extend the tourney two more days or so.

DOUBLEFIST
Sep 12th, 2009, 03:53 AM
Yearlong maintenance of a roof would likely cost more than it does to extend the tourney two more days or so.
Even given potential loss of TV revenue?

Apoleb
Sep 12th, 2009, 03:54 AM
Right...this is surprising...because? Newsflash: money makes the world go 'round. If they can make twice as much money having women's semis on Friday and men's on Saturday, you really expect them to keep it on Thursday just for tradition's or nicety's sake?

I wonder then why other slams don't follow.

The point is that they were willing to take risks out of their greed. A risk that has made the tourny far shittier for most fans. I don't see how they shouldn't be criticized for that.

VeeReeDavJCap81
Sep 12th, 2009, 03:56 AM
Maybe the US Open would have better finals if there was a day between the final and semi :shrug:

Slammer7
Sep 12th, 2009, 04:49 AM
I do wonder, however, how much money they LOSE having to push the tourney.

I'd love to see a cost/benefit analysis of a roof in Flushing Meadow.

They said on TTC a couple of hours ago that it would cost 200 million dollars to put a roof on Ashe stadium. :eek: :speakles: Damn!!!

If there is ever going to be a roof at the National tennis center it's going to be on the grandstand because they could probably do that for less than 50 million, which is still a truck load of money. :eek: :tape:

darrinbaker00
Sep 12th, 2009, 05:27 AM
Yearlong maintenance of a roof would likely cost more than it does to extend the tourney two more days or so.
In order for a roof to be built on Arthur Ashe Stadium, one or both of the following would have to happen, neither of which I'm in favor of:

1. Raise yearly membership fees AND entry fees for USTA leagues and tournaments. If I were just a tennis fan, I wouldn't mind, but as a card-carrying, dues-paying USTA member, I mind a lot.
2. Sell the naming rights. Arthur Ashe Stadium would then become (insert corporate name here) Stadium. I can't imagine ANYONE being cool with that.

Look, everybody, what's happening now with the weather is the exception, not the rule. The scheduling for this tournament has worked for as long as we all can remember, and unless this weather pattern becomes the norm, I don't see a reason to change it.

FrOzon
Sep 12th, 2009, 05:30 AM
What they are doing seems to work better than "tradition" at the other slams.

It does? ;)

Bijoux0021
Sep 12th, 2009, 05:57 AM
Maybe the US Open would have better finals if there was a day between the final and semi :shrug:
Especially for the men who sometimes have to play 5 grueling sets to make the final, and then the winner have no choice but to play in the final the next day.

In The Zone
Sep 12th, 2009, 06:59 AM
In order for a roof to be built on Arthur Ashe Stadium, one or both of the following would have to happen, neither of which I'm in favor of:

1. Raise yearly membership fees AND entry fees for USTA leagues and tournaments. If I were just a tennis fan, I wouldn't mind, but as a card-carrying, dues-paying USTA member, I mind a lot.
2. Sell the naming rights. Arthur Ashe Stadium would then become (insert corporate name here) Stadium. I can't imagine ANYONE being cool with that.

Look, everybody, what's happening now with the weather is the exception, not the rule. The scheduling for this tournament has worked for as long as we all can remember, and unless this weather pattern becomes the norm, I don't see a reason to change it.

What I would like to see is the USTA getting a roof for Arthur Ashe Stadium and then using that venue for other events during the year. Holding more events would help recoup the investment faster. Concerts, other sporting events, etc, the USTA would have a great place -- like Rod Laver Arena.

But I agree, for the tennis event alone, a roof is unnecessary. Annoying sometimes sure, but not necessary.

DOUBLEFIST
Sep 12th, 2009, 07:06 AM
Hell, sell the naming rights to the ROOF.

"...So, for the next ten minutes, folks, they'll be closing the the Walmart roof here at Arthur Ashe stadium. Walmart, where every small business's death means a better deal for you."

hdfb
Sep 12th, 2009, 07:46 AM
You are quite brazen to tell the most popular annual sporting event in the world how to run its business. What they are doing seems to work better than "tradition" at the other slams.

Yeah like you've never given your opinion on what the president of your country should do or how your favourite tennis player should change their game. :weirdo:

It doesn't seem that much better to be honest, if they followed similar schedules to other grand slams then the current situation wouldn't be as bad, it also gives the women's and men's singles finalists a full day of rest before their matches.

terjw
Sep 12th, 2009, 08:24 AM
You are quite brazen to tell the most popular annual sporting event in the world how to run its business. What they are doing seems to work better than "tradition" at the other slams.

:haha:You think this farce works better than at the other slams? :confused: And the biased easy ride they always give to Federer with the super Staurday nonsense? :rolleyes:

AnomyBC
Sep 12th, 2009, 08:26 AM
They said on TTC a couple of hours ago that it would cost 200 million dollars to put a roof on Ashe stadium. :eek: :speakles: Damn!!!

How difficult could be to find $200 million dollars? Here's some possibilities......

1. Just create the money out of thin air like Congress does.

2. Borrow it from Serena.

3. Fund it by having a special one-time-only "Topless Open".

4. Build the roof out of discarded copies of AM New York (http://amny.com/).

5. Allow Aurthur Ashe stadium to be rented out for parties.

6. Allow psychiatric counseling during women's tennis matches, but charge the players $500 for every 10 minutes.

7. Charge $300 for every medical time out.

8. Charge $100 for every double fault.

9. Sell a new type of ticket that can be purchased for an extra $50 that entitles the ticket-holder to a special "Happy Ending" at the end of their stay at the tennis center.

10. Raise the price of a T-Shirt from $40 to $40,000.

And that's just a few possibilities off the top of my head... I'm sure there are many more :)

Feyd
Sep 12th, 2009, 08:38 AM
They said on TTC a couple of hours ago that it would cost 200 million dollars to put a roof on Ashe stadium. :eek: :speakles: Damn!!!

If there is ever going to be a roof at the National tennis center it's going to be on the grandstand because they could probably do that for less than 50 million, which is still a truck load of money. :eek: :tape:

That is probably hogwash. They were saying 100 million before.

TheBoiledEgg
Sep 12th, 2009, 08:38 AM
2. Sell the naming rights. Arthur Ashe Stadium would then become (insert corporate name here) Stadium. I can't imagine ANYONE being cool with that.



CBS......... Corporate Bullshit scheme ???

Feyd
Sep 12th, 2009, 08:40 AM
I will pray for more and more rain just for these money whores to be screwed more.

Slammer7
Sep 12th, 2009, 05:28 PM
Hell, sell the naming rights to the ROOF.

"...So, for the next ten minutes, folks, they'll be closing the the Walmart roof here at Arthur Ashe stadium. Walmart, where every small business's death means a better deal for you."

I like this idea,:yeah: but not many companies are spending that kind of money on naming rights these days. :shrug: They may have to get a few companies to chip in to pay for it.

How difficult could be to find $200 million dollars? Here's some possibilities......

1. Just create the money out of thin air like Congress does.

2. Borrow it from Serena.

3. Fund it by having a special one-time-only "Topless Open".

4. Build the roof out of discarded copies of AM New York (http://amny.com/).

5. Allow Aurthur Ashe stadium to be rented out for parties.

6. Allow psychiatric counseling during women's tennis matches, but charge the players $500 for every 10 minutes.

7. Charge $300 for every medical time out.

8. Charge $100 for every double fault.

9. Sell a new type of ticket that can be purchased for an extra $50 that entitles the ticket-holder to a special "Happy Ending" at the end of their stay at the tennis center.

10. Raise the price of a T-Shirt from $40 to $40,000.

And that's just a few possibilities off the top of my head... I'm sure there are many more :)


:haha: :haha: :haha: Hey now! @ some of those suggestions. :hehehe: :lol: :worship: :worship: :worship:

That is probably hogwash. They were saying 100 million before.

Well that's what they said. :shrug: Also last year may have just been an estimate and they might have actually done some further research into what it would cost and maybe it went up. If you've ever seen major construction in NYC you'd know that it goes over budget allllll the time. :tape:

améliemomo
Sep 12th, 2009, 05:41 PM
You are quite brazen to tell the most popular annual sporting event in the world how to run its business. What they are doing seems to work better than "tradition" at the other slams.

you're wrong. For example talking about Roland Garros, they decided to make start the first round in 3 days starting it on sunday. This was a great idea cause it attracted many people and it was also a success in a financial point of view.
The USTA should think a little bit more about making this tournament work the best way than only care about making $$$$$$
Now the tournament turns into a mess.

Thanx4nothin
Sep 12th, 2009, 06:03 PM
Much as I understand that they probably can't afford a roof atm, or that it is impractical on Ashe ANYWAY, AND as much as I have been educated on why they do NOT have covers...I STILL have qualms about the scheduling...

I mean, I woke up on Thursday excited for the semis...and suddenly, no, they are on Friday....OK makes NO sense....and NOW, they schedule the mens doubles final ahead of the womens semis, and they schedule Serena vs Kim, not before 8.00pm, when they KNOW it is going to be raining...:rolleyes:

It just is NOT fair to the players that:rolleyes: the US telecast has such control over the scheduling, it's ridiculous.

Likelihood after today is that Serena will have to play her semi on sunday....so when is the final? :tape: That is IF Yanina and Caro even get to play/start their match, because, OOPS, its raining again! :(