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Bijoux0021
Sep 11th, 2009, 05:36 PM
They are showing this match.

KoOlMaNsEaN
Sep 11th, 2009, 05:47 PM
Choke from Kim up 5-3 loses 7-5

-jenks-
Sep 11th, 2009, 05:48 PM
Kim!! :sobbing:

tobe
Sep 11th, 2009, 05:48 PM
god! What a major (!!!)choke that was from KIM! Basically stopped playing after 5-3....I had no clue :/

BuTtErFrEnA
Sep 11th, 2009, 05:51 PM
she didn't choke...i kept hearing about this epic choke :lol: it looks to me like serena started hitting huge as usual...and that one ball kim decided to not play and catch it instead of playing was down to inexperience especially since it was on bp...always play the ball....


kim seems more animated than i remember her lol

Valanga
Sep 11th, 2009, 05:52 PM
10 years. time flies.

gmokb
Sep 11th, 2009, 05:52 PM
Even at 17 you could see baby sis attitude. Lawd, I love her:worship:

VishaalMaria
Sep 11th, 2009, 05:52 PM
LOL Nawwww, Kim just choked.

DOUBLEFIST
Sep 11th, 2009, 05:52 PM
Yeah, I wonder if they'll show it ALL or cut it off before the inevitable.

Lulu.
Sep 11th, 2009, 05:54 PM
:lol: @ Serena's reactions back in the day.

b_o_r
Sep 11th, 2009, 05:55 PM
I wished they showed the whole match. Serena was so animated, jumping up and down on court with each point.

VishaalMaria
Sep 11th, 2009, 05:55 PM
What were her reactions? Same as today no doubt.

BuTtErFrEnA
Sep 11th, 2009, 05:56 PM
she's doing the chain saw a la hewitt lol

franny
Sep 11th, 2009, 05:56 PM
Awww brings back memories. I cannot believe that it has been ten years already. I remember watching this match live and being so engrossed in it. Both players have gone on to achieve such incredible things.

Bijoux0021
Sep 11th, 2009, 05:56 PM
god! What a major (!!!)choke that was from KIM! Basically stopped playing after 5-3....I had no clue :/
She was waiting for Serena to give it to her with UEs. The same story with AO 2003 when Kim was leading 5-1 in the 3rd set and couldn't close it out. Serena played her best tennis at the end and hardy made errors to comeback to win.

Hingis vs Serena coming up.

BuTtErFrEnA
Sep 11th, 2009, 05:57 PM
this should be interesting....they are showing my first ever tennis match next :inlove:

KoOlMaNsEaN
Sep 11th, 2009, 05:57 PM
Next it's Serena-Hingis 1999 Final ending. 1 of the first matches i remember watching along with the 99 wimbledon,canadian final

DOUBLEFIST
Sep 11th, 2009, 05:58 PM
I friggin' MISS those Puma days.

Lulu.
Sep 11th, 2009, 05:59 PM
The final. :drool:

BuTtErFrEnA
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:00 PM
oh melanie's hair :sobbing:

BuTtErFrEnA
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:00 PM
wait is this live match discussion :rolls:

DOUBLEFIST
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:01 PM
wait is this live match discussion :rolls:

Nope.

tennisbum79
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:02 PM
A couple of things I noticed on their tendencies that have stayed with them to this day.
Kim:
Plays fast, no matter the score or momentum. Whether she is leading or not.

Serena:
Clutch serve when she has her back againt the wall.
Excellent serve.
Huge forehand return on puffy serves

franny
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:04 PM
Hingis and Serena - so amazing. Goodness how I missed these two playing, as well as Venus-Martina.

BuTtErFrEnA
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:07 PM
watching those matches...i really don't recall how anyone could say serena is a ballbasher :lol: she's using more placement than anything else...the only power in her game seems to be her serve and return

Bijoux0021
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:07 PM
I friggin' MISS those Puma days.
Me too. Their outfits were the best.

Polikarpov
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:09 PM
I wanna see that match on TV again. We have last year's final in our feed.

DOUBLEFIST
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:10 PM
I remember watching Hingis Serea play in Manhattan Beach in '99. I
was so excited for this final because it felt like that very same match!

I KNEW Serena was gonna win. Ahh, the memories. :)

BuTtErFrEnA
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:10 PM
least year's final was a great match too..unless you mean the men's

BuTtErFrEnA
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:11 PM
ok now she's starting to hit the ball lol

BuTtErFrEnA
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:11 PM
and backhand slice...wth is this :haha:

b_o_r
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:12 PM
Aww Serena's slice was superb.. What happened to it?

-jenks-
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:13 PM
That was the most aggressive slice i've ever seen!! :eek:

BuTtErFrEnA
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:14 PM
that's gsfinalrena....noramlrena doesn't hit it anymore?

BuTtErFrEnA
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:15 PM
the days of extended quality rallies :sobbing:

gmokb
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:17 PM
Orance used to show her emotions back then, wonder why she stopped?

tennisbum79
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:18 PM
Hingis-Serena

Let's keep in mind that at that point, Hingis was at her peak, on top of the WTA, was already multi-GS winner.

For Serena to play like that is even more impressing.

KoOlMaNsEaN
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:18 PM
lol :eek: OMG! from serena

BuTtErFrEnA
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:18 PM
:sobbing: that was the reaction that made me a fan forever :sobbing:

DOUBLEFIST
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:18 PM
Serena's ALWAYS had the slice in her arsenal. There was just a long period where she went away from it. Even today, I don't think she hits it as well as she used to.

She moved more toward power through '03. I think now her game has gotten back to that more patient, discipline she had before. Largely, I think this is because girls have adapted to the "power" game and often give as good as they get.

Rocketta
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:19 PM
It's weird to see Richard and Oracene interacting. :eek: :lol:

BuTtErFrEnA
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:21 PM
i think that's what she was going back to in 07...but wasn't fit enough to do it...and i think the match that made her realise that was miami 07 final....

but note: one comment that ALWAYS makes me mad is the one bill just made - talking about the power game got rid of hingis, he then proceeds to say it's people like jh and kim who made you see you could play with power and have a strategy :rolleyes:

tobe
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:22 PM
good match! Miss Hingis :(

tennnisfannn
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:22 PM
It's weird to see Richard and Oracene interacting. :eek: :lol:
you can say that again, now we have little miss squealer by Richard's side.

tennnisfannn
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:24 PM
i think that's what she was going back to in 07...but wasn't fit enough to do it...and i think the match that made her realise that was miami 07 final....

but note: one comment that ALWAYS makes me mad is the one bill just made - talking about the power game got rid of hingis, he then proceeds to say it's people like jh and kim who made you see you could play with power and have a strategy :rolleyes:

same here!

Bijoux0021
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:25 PM
watching those matches...i really don't recall how anyone could say serena is a ballbasher :lol: she's using more placement than anything else...the only power in her game seems to be her serve and return
And angles. She used to have some wicked angles in her game back then than she does now, especially in 2002 and 2003.

le bon vivant
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:25 PM
I love watching Venus' bitter, subdued reactions all during the final. :drool:

cellophane
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:27 PM
Seems like forever ago!

VishaalMaria
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:27 PM
I love watching Venus' bitter, subdued reactions all during the final. :drool:

Yeah. I didn't like Venus back then because of her jealousy. She looked too ghetto as well. But good to see that out of all the great points in the final, with it being Serena's first slam win as well, Venus caught/took up most of your attention.

-jenks-
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:27 PM
Now they're going to show Oudin matches :o
I want to see more classics!!

KoOlMaNsEaN
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:29 PM
downpouring rain now.
I also wish theyd show classic matches

DOUBLEFIST
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:35 PM
i think that's what she was going back to in 07...but wasn't fit enough to do it...and i think the match that made her realise that was miami 07 final....

but note: one comment that ALWAYS makes me mad is the one bill just made - talking about the power game got rid of hingis, he then proceeds to say it's people like jh and kim who made you see you could play with power and have a strategy :rolleyes:

Actually he said (which is MORE insulting) "people like jh and kim who made you see you could play with power and 'Think their way through a match.'" :rolleyes: What a tool. Nice to see courier didn't touch it.

KBdoubleu
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:35 PM
Keep in mind that Serena/Clijsters were younger at the time than this years teen "sensation" Oudin. Hingis was also younger than Wozniacki and Wickmayer.

le bon vivant
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:41 PM
Yeah. I didn't like Venus back then because of her jealousy. She looked too ghetto as well. But good to see that out of all the great points in the final, with it being Serena's first slam win as well, Venus caught/took up most of your attention.Not most of my attention, but definitely a fair amount. :drool:

Bijoux0021
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:42 PM
Actually he said (which is MORE insulting) "people like jh and kim who made you see you could play with power and 'Think their way through a match.'" :rolleyes: What a tool. Nice to see courier didn't touch it.
Yeah, when I heard that, I just rolled my eyes. These people are so ignorant and don't even know it. :sad:

Slammer7
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:46 PM
I love watching Venus' bitter, subdued reactions all during the final. :drool:

Yeah. I didn't like Venus back then because of her jealousy. She looked too ghetto as well. But good to see that out of all the great points in the final, with it being Serena's first slam win as well, Venus caught/took up most of your attention.

She wasn't jealous, she had the same expression in the quarters and all the other matches she was at. She also had IV's administered the night before, because she was cramping at the end of her singles semi and her blood pressure was really low. There are also moments earlier in the match where she was pumping her fist at Serena telling her "come on girl, you can do it" and after Serena won she had a big smile and was slapping Serena's hand with the rest of the family. That whole "jealousy" thing was something created by the media to try and drive a wedge between the sisters, trying to pit them against one another and make them bitter rivals. This is the same Venus that has taken pictures of Serena with the trophy after losing GS finals to her. This is the same Venus that stayed and cheered like mad for Serena at last years U.S Open and this years AO. This is the same player that is out there on 1 leg in the doubles because she doesn't want to let down her sister. So please, that was just some drummed up bullshit from the same media that is airing Melanie Oudin's families dirty laundry. :rolleyes: Also Venus was dressed in athletic wear because they had a doubles match after the singles final. She wore the same hoody jacket and combo to all of Serena's matches. Mom and Dad weren't exactly in a ballgown and tux either.

tennisbum79
Sep 11th, 2009, 06:53 PM
I love watching Venus' bitter, subdued reactions all during the final. :drool:
This is uncalled for.

Seriously, it is unnecessary.

darrinbaker00
Sep 11th, 2009, 07:12 PM
Serena's ALWAYS had the slice in her arsenal. There was just a long period where she went away from it. Even today, I don't think she hits it as well as she used to.

She moved more toward power through '03. I think now her game has gotten back to that more patient, discipline she had before. Largely, I think this is because girls have adapted to the "power" game and often give as good as they get.
I'm still trying to figure out why Serena doesn't come over the top on the one-handed backhand in matches the way she does in pre-match warmups. If nothing else, it'll give the girl on the other side of the net something else to think/worry about.


:topic: As far as I'm concerned, it ain't a real US Open rain delay until they show Connors-Krickstein 1991. :yeah:

Bijoux0021
Sep 11th, 2009, 07:18 PM
I'm still trying to figure out why Serena doesn't come over the top on the one-handed backhand in matches the way she does in pre-match warmups. If nothing else, it'll give the girl on the other side of the net something else to think/worry about.


:topic: As far as I'm concerned, it ain't a real US Open rain delay until they show Connors-Krickstein 1991. :yeah:
OMG! Not that match again. Please don't show it, CBS. I've seen it enough.:explode:

VeeReeDavJCap81
Sep 11th, 2009, 07:34 PM
Glad to hear I didn't set my DVR in vain. Can't wait to get home and watch the classics :drool:

darrinbaker00
Sep 11th, 2009, 07:35 PM
OMG! Not that match again. Please don't show it, CBS. I've seen it enough.:explode:
You can never get enough of the Aaron Krickstein mullet, my friend. NEVER. ;)

disposablehero
Sep 12th, 2009, 05:38 AM
Man, how different history could have been if (16 year old) Kim had managed to hold it together. As for that USO, my speculation would be Kim beats Conchita, loses to Monica, Monica loses to Lindsay, Lindsay beats Martina for the title.
But more interestingly, what would it have meant from a career standpoint for Kim and Serena. With less confidence, would Serena have ended up with "only" 6-7 career Slams? Would a confident and high-ranked Kim have gotten better, faster, perhaps have 6-7 Slams of her own. Who knows.
That Quadruple Fault, so painful to think about.

brent-o
Sep 12th, 2009, 06:18 AM
Glad to hear I didn't set my DVR in vain. Can't wait to get home and watch the classics :drool:

:lol: That's exactly what I was thinking!

DOUBLEFIST
Sep 12th, 2009, 06:59 AM
Man, how different history could have been if (16 year old) Kim had managed to hold it together. As for that USO, my speculation would be Kim beats Conchita, loses to Monica, Monica loses to Lindsay, Lindsay beats Martina for the title.
But more interestingly, what would it have meant from a career standpoint for Kim and Serena. With less confidence, would Serena have ended up with "only" 6-7 career Slams? Would a confident and high-ranked Kim have gotten better, faster, perhaps have 6-7 Slams of her own. Who knows.
That Quadruple Fault, so painful to think about.

...OR...,

maybe Serena's loss would be so upsetting for Vee that her concentration goes up another level. She gets through the match against Marty and Meets and BEATS Davey in the final. :shrug:

AnDyDog621
Sep 12th, 2009, 07:49 AM
...OR...,

maybe Serena's loss would be so upsetting for Vee that her concentration goes up another level. She gets through the match against Marty and Meets and BEATS Davey in the final. :shrug:

:worship:Venus:worship:

Sam L
Sep 12th, 2009, 09:55 AM
This match is making me feel old.

It's weird to see Richard and Oracene interacting. :eek: :lol:

Yeah, how times change for all of us. :sad:

clementine
Sep 13th, 2009, 01:25 AM
Typical choke from Kim. She had a very different court presence back then. I like her better now.

Lots of support for Serena from the supposedly racist crowd. Hmm.

Slammer7
Sep 13th, 2009, 01:29 AM
Typical choke from Kim. She had a very different court presence back then. I like her better now.

Lots of support for Serena from the supposedly racist crowd. Hmm.

Hyperbole much? :rolleyes: Aren't you the poster that posted that Oudin "lynching" article. These people who have hung in there through the rain are not the same people who were there Sunday. :o The crowd was cheering for tennis they are just happy the rain is over.