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Julian.
Sep 10th, 2009, 07:11 AM
Wimbledon 2004
[13] Maria Sharapova (pretty, young teenager) defeated heavy favorite defending champion [1] Serena Williams in the final. Maria rose to superstardom instantly.

US Open 2009 - assuming we have Wozniacki vs Williams final.
[9] Caroline Wozniacki (pretty, young teenager). Would she be able to defeat heavy favorite defending champion [2] Serena Williams in the final and rose to superstardom instantly?

Rafito.
Sep 10th, 2009, 07:12 AM
Exactly what I was thinking.

Edinboro
Sep 10th, 2009, 07:15 AM
Only if Caroline pushes Serena into tons of errors but I doubt it will happen in a slam final. *Knock on wood. But lets not forget people. The semi finals have not even been decided. Sheesh.

Marionated
Sep 10th, 2009, 07:18 AM
I didn't know they had both been given walkovers to the final.

bandabou
Sep 10th, 2009, 07:20 AM
Serena has a tough road to get to the final, so let's just wait out and see.

Vaidisova Ruled
Sep 10th, 2009, 07:36 AM
Sharapova had a better serve in 2004 and more powerful. However, if "errorena" shows up...Why not?

DOUBLEFIST
Sep 10th, 2009, 07:38 AM
Do you think SERENA has forgotten what happen in '04 :devil:

Caralenko
Sep 10th, 2009, 07:42 AM
Do you think SERENA has forgotten what happen in '04 :devil:

AO '07 :tape: She got her vengeance and moved on.

In The Zone
Sep 10th, 2009, 07:43 AM
Is it me or is everyone forgetting that Caroline has to beat Yanina first and Serena has to beat Kim?

JEEZ!!

And no, I don't think she can. ;)

Julian.
Sep 10th, 2009, 07:57 AM
Is it me or is everyone forgetting that Caroline has to beat Yanina first and Serena has to beat Kim?

JEEZ!!

And no, I don't think she can. ;)

We know that, that's why I say "assuming". If that final doesn't happen, then the answer to this question is obviously no.

Trixie
Sep 10th, 2009, 08:47 AM
I wouldn't assume the two Belgians would lose, and pretty is in the eye of the beholder.

DOUBLEFIST
Sep 10th, 2009, 09:00 AM
AO '07 :tape: She got her vengeance and moved on.

I'm not talking "vengeance." That's over and done with.

I'm talking about potentiality.

Because of '04, Serena I guarantee, is well aware of what CAN happen. Therefore, she won't let Woz' sneak up on her like she did Maria. That is...

IF...

she gets past Kim.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Sep 10th, 2009, 09:38 AM
Are you really a Pova fan? I would've never thought that a Pova fan would compare Wozniacki to Sharapova :help: Apart from an occaisonal camel-toe display, they are incomparable :help:

Julian.
Sep 10th, 2009, 09:39 AM
Are you really a Pova fan? I would've never thought that a Pova fan would compare Wozniacki to Sharapova :help: Apart from an occaisonal camel-toe display, they are incomparable :help:

Why not? I'm not comparing their games. It's not even close.

Привет
Sep 10th, 2009, 09:47 AM
I think that it is about as possible as I thought Masha beating Serena was back in 04, so I guess anything can happen... :shrug:

Masha had to beat Lindsay before she took on Serena, though, which would've given her a lot of confidence. I doubt beating Yanina will have the same effect on Caroline (not a dig at Yanina :)).

madmax
Sep 10th, 2009, 09:48 AM
Maria won US Open being the same age as Pushniacki is now, and it was already her second slam...I don't see how these two are comparable game or accomplishments wise

Mrs. Dimitrova
Sep 10th, 2009, 09:58 AM
Maria had two Grand Slams at Caroline's age. And Maria's opponent in the quarterfinals and semifinals were not unseeded.

Talula
Sep 10th, 2009, 10:02 AM
I actually think that Caroline can win the US Open. And as a few others have said everyone put all money on Serena winning her 3rd Wimbledon in 04 and Maria just crept up the other half of the draw and won in straight sets!

If Kim and Serena's match is a hard fought 3 setter and Serena wins, and Caroline has a quick win then I do think she can do it.

rockstar
Sep 10th, 2009, 10:03 AM
Maria won US Open being the same age as Pushniacki is now, and it was already her second slam...I don't see how these two are comparable game or accomplishments wise

sheesh, we're talking about comparisona, not finding the next pova clone or anything :rolleyes:

but yeah to answer to question, no i dont think she's as talented as maria

John.
Sep 10th, 2009, 10:04 AM
No

Talula
Sep 10th, 2009, 10:09 AM
I don't think the OP was saying that Caroline was as talented as Maria or even asking if she was - she isn't. The question was could Caroline win the US Open by defeating Serena in the final - if they both get there. And the answer in my view is yes, Caroline does have a chance to do that.

The hate being heaped on Caroline at the minute puzzles me I have to say and I think it's blinding people to the OP's question and the possibility that she might just win this tournament. No one is saying she will, but she might.

Geertvg
Sep 10th, 2009, 10:10 AM
Ehm. No. Have you seen both play? I'd say it'll be a very easy victory for Serena. 62 62 or the likes.

Julian.
Sep 10th, 2009, 10:14 AM
I don't think the OP was saying that Caroline was as talented as Maria or even asking if she was - she isn't. The question was could Caroline win the US Open by defeating Serena in the final - if they both get there. And the answer in my view is yes, Caroline does have a chance to do that.

The hate being heaped on Caroline at the minute puzzles me I have to say and I think it's blinding people to the OP's question and the possibility that she might just win this tournament. No one is saying she will, but she might.

:kiss:

bandabou
Sep 10th, 2009, 10:27 AM
Can't see it happening.. Serena reached that final in 2004 but she wasn't playing well at all. Momo should've beaten her. Plus...she wasn't match tough yet.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Sep 10th, 2009, 10:29 AM
I don't think the OP was saying that Caroline was as talented as Maria or even asking if she was - she isn't. The question was could Caroline win the US Open by defeating Serena in the final - if they both get there. And the answer in my view is yes, Caroline does have a chance to do that.

The hate being heaped on Caroline at the minute puzzles me I have to say and I think it's blinding people to the OP's question and the possibility that she might just win this tournament. No one is saying she will, but she might.

Actually,the only intention behind this thread was to remind everyone of the 04 Wimbledon final; that's what Pova fans get off on.

Julian.
Sep 10th, 2009, 10:32 AM
Actually,the only intention behind this thread was to remind everyone of the 04 Wimbledon final; that's what Pova fans get off on.

Wrong.

Sharapower
Sep 10th, 2009, 11:10 AM
Actually,the only intention behind this thread was to remind everyone of the 04 Wimbledon final; that's what Pova fans get off on.
Good Lord!!! :banghead::banghead::banghead:

Sharapower
Sep 10th, 2009, 11:16 AM
The only way I can see Wozniacki beating Serena Williams is if the latter's physical freshness is hindering. Otherwise, I don't see Caroline becoming magically a mental superwoman and win a GS final against the best player in the world.
Caroline's game can bother Serena more than any other player but it's not enough. It's the mental, baby!

MrSerenaWilliams
Sep 10th, 2009, 11:23 AM
Can't see it happening.. Serena reached that final in 2004 but she wasn't playing well at all. Momo should've beaten her. Plus...she wasn't match tough yet.

Plus, it was her first major final against someone OTHER than Venus in almost 5 years. Now that she took that loss on her chin, she's been Ruthlessrena in finals.

We'll see what happens, though.

Woz isn't going to beat a 30 winner/15 UE Rena in ANY match, much less in the finals of a major, especially when she only hit 5 winners in her QF match.

Vincey!
Sep 10th, 2009, 11:39 AM
as much as I like Caro, eve if Caro does win by defeating Serena in final it wouldn't match with Sharapova's run at Wimby :shrug:...Caro hasn't played top players like Sharapova did. and Caro is in the top 10 so it's not comparable at all.

That being said I don't think Serena will lose to Caro in the final of a major, even less the USOpen :sad:

Julian.
Sep 10th, 2009, 11:42 AM
as much as I like Caro, eve if Caro does win by defeating Serena in final it wouldn't match with Sharapova's run at Wimby :shrug:...Caro hasn't played top players like Sharapova did. and Caro is in the top 10 so it's not comparable at all.

That being said I don't think Serena will lose to Caro in the final of a major, even less the USOpen :sad:

She played Svetlana, Kim or Serena (all grand slam champions) :shrug:

Maria also only beat Davenport and Serena.

Vincey!
Sep 10th, 2009, 11:45 AM
Actually,the only intention behind this thread was to remind everyone of the 04 Wimbledon final; that's what Pova fans get off on.

Look who's saying that...the same exact person who can't stop bringing back AO 2007 final and Miami SF matches :lol:..Quite ironic coming from you :p

and it was def not his intention lol...sharapova is just the only player to have achieved that lol...he couldn't invent a teenage player beating Serena and defending champion in a final of a GS :p

Sharapower
Sep 10th, 2009, 11:46 AM
I dare not imagine how messed-up this board would be if Caroline won this USO

:eek:

:bolt:

Julian.
Sep 10th, 2009, 11:47 AM
Look who's saying that...the same exact person who can't stop bringing back AO 2007 final and Miami SF matches :lol:..Quite ironic coming from you :p

and it was def not his intention lol...sharapova is just the only player to have achieved that lol...he couldn't invent a teenage player beating Serena and defending champion in a final of a GS :p

:worship:

Vincey!
Sep 10th, 2009, 11:49 AM
She played Svetlana, Kim or Serena (all grand slam champions) :shrug:

Maria also only beat Davenport and Serena.

Maria did beat Davenport, Serena, Hantuchova (who was in a slump right, but was and is still a tough opponent), sugiyama ( back then she was really good, top 10 if I remember or pretty close).

Caro beat a slumping Sveta and would beat Serena or Kim...big deal :lol:

I mean if Caro win it, it would be amazing! Winning the USO at 19 is great! but that wouldn't make it comparable to Maria's Wimbledon 2004..the only thing would be the only player having beaten Serena in the final of a major beside Venus???

Russianboy
Sep 10th, 2009, 12:31 PM
Can't see it happening.. Serena reached that final in 2004 but she wasn't playing well at all. Momo should've beaten her. Plus...she wasn't match tough yet.

serena was ready. she beat capriati 61 61. dont start with that shit.

oh and by the way. if u start with that shit then the same can be said for maria at AO 07. her shoulder was bothering her and she played shit till the final. she should have lsot against pin in round one. :weirdo:

saarsngg
Sep 10th, 2009, 12:32 PM
If Kim chokes. Or if Serena is at 10 percent.

Safin
Sep 10th, 2009, 01:21 PM
Serena isn't playing like she was in 04, and Sharapova was younger.

Isn't the same, at all.

youizahoe
Sep 10th, 2009, 01:25 PM
Sharapova was also playing better than Wozniacki has ever played.

HRHoliviasmith
Sep 10th, 2009, 01:26 PM
can they both get there first?

Adaora
Sep 10th, 2009, 01:29 PM
Not if she plays this Serena Williams!

pokey camp
Sep 10th, 2009, 01:34 PM
Can't see it happening.. Serena reached that final in 2004 but she wasn't playing well at all. Momo should've beaten her. Plus...she wasn't match tough yet.
Hmmm... oh I see...

RenaSlam.
Sep 10th, 2009, 01:37 PM
Sharapova's one tournament at Wimbledon will be better than Wozniacki's entire career.

So, no.

Serendy Willick
Sep 10th, 2009, 01:45 PM
serena was ready. she beat capriati 61 61. dont start with that shit.

oh and by the way. if u start with that shit then the same can be said for maria at AO 07. her shoulder was bothering her and she played shit till the final. she should have lsot against pin in round one. :weirdo:
Here comes the fucking shoulder excuse:rolleyes: The girl won the fucking tournement a year later. So her shoulder was hurting her for two whole years rigggggght:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Vincey!
Sep 10th, 2009, 02:24 PM
Here comes the fucking shoulder excuse:rolleyes: The girl won the fucking tournement a year later. So her shoulder was hurting her for two whole years rigggggght:rolleyes::rolleyes:

If you would have followed her carreer/results you would know that she has been struggling with her shoulder since the AO 2007 she has not been fit since then....remember when she came back for the Championship in 2007?? she had that service motion, shortened like she has now....I'd say AO 08 was the only time she was fully fit and it lasted till IW where she injured her shoulder again against Bondarenko so it's not an excuses but a fact...Why would Serena be the only who can be injured???

Feyd
Sep 10th, 2009, 02:29 PM
Here comes the fucking shoulder excuse:rolleyes: The girl won the fucking tournement a year later. So her shoulder was hurting her for two whole years rigggggght:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Serena won the fucking A0 2005, 7 months after Wimbly. So her knee was hurting her riggggght. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

SAEKeithSerena
Sep 10th, 2009, 02:32 PM
serena hasn't even gotten thru kim yet...

Volcana
Sep 10th, 2009, 02:41 PM
serena hasn't even gotten thru kim yet...A point that needs to be re-iterated. Clijsters has shown that she's at least as good as the Clijsters who lost four GS finals. Wozniacki had beaten ONE elite opponent. Serena needs to be better to beat Clijsters than she does to beat Wozniacki, based on resumes.Serena won the fucking A0 2005, 7 months after Wimbly. So her knee was hurting her riggggght. :rolleyes::rolleyes:Have you looked at the scas on Serena's knee. That wasn't arthroscopic surgery. That was a full open-up of the knee joint. Serena's knee most like hurts ALL the time. She's just learned to manage it.

Feyd
Sep 10th, 2009, 02:49 PM
A point that needs to be re-iterated. Clijsters has shown that she's at least as good as the Clijsters who lost four GS finals. Wozniacki had beaten ONE elite opponent. Serena needs to be better to beat Clijsters than she does to beat Wozniacki, based on resumes.Have you looked at the scas on Serena's knee. That wasn't arthroscopic surgery. That was a full open-up of the knee joint. Serena's knee most like hurts ALL the time. She's just learned to manage it.

No, I was actually pointing out the hypocrisy there. Sharapova's shoulder has been hurting her since 2007 and Serena's knee has been hurting her since 2003. People cannot just choose one and discard other. Either accept both or discard both. Don't try to make a point by selective reasoning.

Monica_Rules
Sep 10th, 2009, 02:51 PM
If it is Serena vs Carloline i think it will be a good final, unless Serena is in her peak form and then she'll blow Caro away in something like 2 and 2, otherwise i see a close match with Serena winning.

2moretogo
Sep 10th, 2009, 03:44 PM
what's wrong with Serena's knees? Did she have another knee surgery that I am unaware of? :eek:

Keegan
Sep 10th, 2009, 10:08 PM
Errorena and Grand Slams do not go together. I really don't think that Pushniacki can push Serena into errors during a Grand Slam. Every moonball Wozniacki hits will probably be anihilated by Serena.

Slutiana
Sep 10th, 2009, 10:15 PM
You do realise that for 2004 to happen again, Caroline would have to outplay Serena? http://i28.tinypic.com/2yy3uzc.jpg

BuTtErFrEnA
Sep 10th, 2009, 10:42 PM
serena underestimated maria...that won't happen again to her in a GS final

Marilyn Monheaux
Sep 11th, 2009, 12:44 AM
In the Wimbledon final Maria blew Serena off the court. I can't really see Caro doing the same and Errorrena will not show up to a US Open final.

Julian.
Sep 11th, 2009, 02:09 AM
You do realise that for 2004 to happen again, Caroline would have to outplay Serena? http://i28.tinypic.com/2yy3uzc.jpg

:spit: that gif.

new-york
Sep 11th, 2009, 02:14 AM
You do realise that for 2004 to happen again, Caroline would have to outplay Serena? http://i28.tinypic.com/2yy3uzc.jpg

that gif is brutal. :rolls:

KournikovaFan91
Sep 11th, 2009, 02:26 AM
I dont see why not, in 2004 nobody thought Maria had a chance.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Sep 11th, 2009, 02:55 AM
Wozniacki can push . That is for sure

Julian.
Sep 12th, 2009, 03:15 PM
Wozniacki can push . That is for sure

So, can she pull? :lol:

Julian.
Sep 13th, 2009, 07:38 AM
Is this a jinxing thread? :spit:

edificio
Sep 13th, 2009, 07:49 AM
It's possible, but it would be weird. I never felt the way most people here did about her game until her match with Kuznetsova. Kuznetsova did everything! Unfortunately, she also did all the errors and Caroline cleaned up. I'm not sure Kim will have two sets worth of errors, but you never know.

Marilyn Monheaux
Sep 13th, 2009, 09:37 AM
Now that Caro has made the final, who thinks, that if she beats Kim, she'll become tennis media's newest darling and gets millions in endorsements?
So far her biggest deals are Stella McCartney for Adidas, Babolat, Sony Ericsson and some danish ones.
She's considered a pretty and nice girl by almost everyone and winning a slam would definitely give her all the credentials needed. But somehow I think that flying under the radar for most of the tournament could hurt her. She hasn't really "caused a racket", as it's been all about Oudin, the sucking seeds, the Kim Back and now Serena's meltdown...