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SharapovaFTW
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:33 AM
Not because I'm a big fan of herS, but because I would love to see this board crash and go into complete meltdown mode. It would be a fucking instant CLASSIC like Ali vs Frazier to see this board go up in flames. GO DINARA GO!

-jenks-
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:38 AM
I really feel bad for her. It would be great if she could finally win a slam. Just imagine if she somehow managed to defeated Serena in the final. Unlikely, I know, but that would be just amazing

fantic
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:40 AM
I really feel bad for her. It would be great if she could finally win a slam. Just imagine if she somehow managed to defeated Serena in the final. Unlikely, I know, but that would be just amazing
I'm not a fan of Safina, but THAT would be awesome.

Jarl_02
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:42 AM
I don't want Serena in the final, but if she is, I hope she crushes Dinara again

Brooks.
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:43 AM
Yeah, good luck with that.

AcesHigh
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:44 AM
It would be classic. They might have to shut the site down for a week or two.

With Dementieva gone, Clijsters and Vee unlikely winners.. I'm totally rooting for Dina

Donny
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:47 AM
So in other words: You want Safina to win solely because it'd upset other posters.

Man, I wish us Serena fans could be as mature as you guys.

Tennisstar86
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:50 AM
I hope she loses sooner rather than later.... the "#1 player" in the world getting embarrassed in the later stages of a tournament yet again, the wta does not need......

danieln1
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:51 AM
Ive never seen anyone getting so much criticism for being a slamless number 1 (maybe Jankovic being the expection), I feel sorry for her and Im rooting for her to win this thing, even though it would take a miracle for her to beat Serena in the final... Ive become a fan of hers since Cincinatti, people talk like its easy to get to number 1 in the world, its disgusting

If she won this she would slap everyone in the face for talking too much, but I think shell win Roland Garros next year

jbeacinu
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:53 AM
Good thing for you she has a cakewalk draw, so she can try to find some rythm by the SF

The Witch-king
Sep 4th, 2009, 05:37 AM
It's pathetic to root for someone because you pity them

SOA_MC
Sep 4th, 2009, 05:42 AM
If the board didn't go boom when Ana won the French, there is no chance of the board going boom if Dinara wins the USO

Caroline on the other hand :unsure:

Caralenko
Sep 4th, 2009, 05:42 AM
It's pathetic to think Safina EVER has a cakewalk draw. :rolleyes: She's so unpredictable it's just stupid to ASSUME every match will be a pushover.

Singleniacki
Sep 4th, 2009, 05:47 AM
i'm rooting for dinara because she is an excellent player and deserves a slam

LudwigDvorak
Sep 4th, 2009, 05:53 AM
I'm rooting for this tournament to end.

Cookie Power
Sep 4th, 2009, 07:18 AM
She won't win a slam until she can control her emotions and sort out her serve.

I won't comment on that dog, Serena.

PLP
Sep 4th, 2009, 07:29 AM
Well, the truth is, I like most players for one reason or another.
But what has really Dinara done to warrant anyone's pity?
I don't dislike her, I just can't root for her.
There are at least 10 other players I would rather see win it, just off the top of my head.

AnDyDog621
Sep 4th, 2009, 09:19 AM
<3 Dinara. good luck!

vanss
Sep 4th, 2009, 09:28 AM
I'm rooting for her too !
I've been doing so for 5 years already , i didn't waited for her to be #1 to believe in her .

And even if she played like CRAP during those two first rounds , she is still in the draw mostly because she fighted and still won despite playing like that :shrug:

I take it one match at a time but she's the :devil: anything and everything can happen with her , which is why i'm looking forward that next match , even if i suffered enough for the week i'm fucked up like that :angel: But then i guess it's a quality/default that you must have if you happen to cheer for Dinara freaking Safina !

Ferg
Sep 4th, 2009, 10:40 AM
I feel so sorry for her, i just want her to win one and then everyone to shut up and stop having 23 threads mocking her every day.

Golovinjured.
Sep 4th, 2009, 10:44 AM
I want her to win here to, but more for the tour than for Dinara herself. Sadly, she's playing despicable tennis and it's just not happening this fortnight.

Привет
Sep 4th, 2009, 10:55 AM
I don't like Safina but I'd be happy to see her get a slam if she did it by playing great tennis, just like I'd be happy to see most other players win their first slam. :shrug:

If the board didn't go boom when Ana won the French, there is no chance of the board going boom if Dinara wins the USO

Caroline on the other hand :unsure:

I don't get this comment. :confused: Ivanovic was a favourite to win RG 08... why on earth would the board 'go boom' over that? :confused::lol: Even if some people weren't expecting her to win a Grand Slam, that's nothing compared to the flack Safina is getting for being slamless.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Sep 4th, 2009, 11:08 AM
All WS haters will gather around Safina now (Since their two hopes of stopping the WS crashed out yesterday).

volta
Sep 4th, 2009, 11:36 AM
thanks for sharing

Tennisstar86
Sep 4th, 2009, 11:39 AM
It's pathetic to think Safina EVER has a cakewalk draw. :rolleyes: She's so unpredictable it's just stupid to ASSUME every match will be a pushover.

lol, just because she will more than likely be a hot mess on court, doesnt take away from the fact that her draw is a cakewalk........ its like the Serena fans deluded enough to think that because Serena had Bammer and Stosur in her draw that she didnt have one....

Caralenko
Sep 4th, 2009, 11:41 AM
Can't really disagree there :lol: especially with JJ and Elena gone.

I hope she won't crash out before the QFs but signs aren't looking good, so the draw may be a cakewalk, but EASY isn't in her Russiglish dictionary.

serenus_2k8
Sep 4th, 2009, 11:45 AM
The world number one should not be willed on to a pity slam. Even when she blasted her way to the final of the French she couldnt handle her nerves so why would she suddenly be able to beat Serena in the slam she has struggled in from day 1?

vanss
Sep 4th, 2009, 11:55 AM
The world number one should not be willed on to a pity slam. Even when she blasted her way to the final of the French she couldnt handle her nerves so why would she suddenly be able to beat Serena in the slam she has struggled in from day 1?

And why not waiting to see who makes it to the Final before speculating on a potential runner up ? :rolleyes:
Neither Dinara OR Serena are there yet so IMO it's useless to talk about that now .

You seem to have everything figured out :angel: I hope you did complete your Bracket or whatever on the USO website , because it sounds like you know how players are going to play and react in their matches . Mini waves in honour of you :worship:

serenus_2k8
Sep 4th, 2009, 11:59 AM
And why not waiting to see who makes it to the Final before speculating on a potential runner up ? :rolleyes:
Neither Dinara OR Serena are there yet so IMO it's useless to talk about that now .

You seem to have everything figured out :angel: I hope you did complete your Bracket or whatever on the USO website , because it sounds like you know how players are going to play and react in their matches . Mini waves in honour of you :worship:

I never said I think Serena was as good as in the final, there is a long way to go. I was responding to the posters who think Safina beating Serena in the final would be great - and I really cant see it happening. Dont be so over-defensive though - we will see the two finalists soon enough.

mykarma
Sep 4th, 2009, 12:05 PM
Ive never seen anyone getting so much criticism for being a slamless number 1 (maybe Jankovic being the expection), I feel sorry for her and Im rooting for her to win this thing, even though it would take a miracle for her to beat Serena in the final... Ive become a fan of hers since Cincinatti, people talk like its easy to get to number 1 in the world, its disgusting

If she won this she would slap everyone in the face for talking too much, but I think shell win Roland Garros next year
She'll eventually win but if she's to smack anyone she needs to smack herself. She's the one that's the embarrassment.

vanss
Sep 4th, 2009, 12:10 PM
I never said I think Serena was as good as in the final, there is a long way to go. I was responding to the posters who think Safina beating Serena in the final would be great - and I really cant see it happening. Dont be so over-defensive though - we will see the two finalists soon enough.

I was wrong , my bad !
But i have to say that Dinara beating Serena in the final would stop every critics at least for a while and i don't think it's impossible , but i don't want to say it is possible for now seeing that her level at the moment is not great ( far from it ) and that we never know how she's gonna react but even if it doesn't happen next week ( against a WS or anyone else ) , i'm still sure it will happen :shrug:

Tennisstar86
Sep 4th, 2009, 12:16 PM
I was wrong , my bad !
But i have to say that Dinara beating Serena in the final would stop every critics at least for a while and i don't think it's impossible , but i don't want to say it is possible for now seeing that her level at the moment is not great ( far from it ) and that we never know how she's gonna react but even if it doesn't happen next week ( against a WS or anyone else ) , i'm still sure it will happen :shrug:

I honestly dont think its possible....... with all the pressure she puts onh erself and how fin crazy she is... She would have to blow Serena off the court to win, which isnt gonna happen....If its a close match Serena will win cause Safina will crumble....and we all know Serenas a bitch with people trying to "take" up for Safina saying Serena needs to be quiet about the #1 ranking, so she'll already be out for blood... look at what she did to poor Maria, she hasnt been able to beat Serena since 2004....

DS.Fan.
Sep 4th, 2009, 12:34 PM
I will support the girl until the end of her career:angel:
She is #1;she will have a slam or not;she plays well or badly;ALL the things are not so important for me!:p Go Dina!You brother love you,your fans love you and lots of Marat's fans love you!That's enough:D

SAEKeithSerena
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:30 PM
it will never happen.

goldenlox
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:39 PM
If she makes the final it's 3 finals and a SF in the 4 majors this year.
It took Kim 5 finals to win her 1st major.

Dinara seems like a long term #1, maybe 100+ weeks.

But she's not in form like she was the 1st week of the FO.

That's her priority now, getting into top form for week 2.

thrust
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:46 PM
So in other words: You want Safina to win solely because it'd upset other posters.

Man, I wish us Serena fans could be as mature as you guys.

That is not the point. The fact is that some players mature sooner than others. There are probably many players who have the physical ability to win Slams, but not the metal toughness to do so. Winning is a God given ability, especially in tennis and golf, where it is just you against another player of golf course. Look how long it tood Kim and Amelie to finally win a Slam. Players like Dinara, Jelana and Elena are more to be pitied than trashed or made fun of. I give Dinara credit for answering questions on TV about her tennis problems. She comes across as a sympathetic and classy lady. I wish her all the best!

HRHoliviasmith
Sep 4th, 2009, 02:13 PM
thanks for sharing

this. :lol:

MechWarrior2k
Sep 4th, 2009, 02:21 PM
Safina gets bashed here and TT for not winning a slam. As if it was so easy to win a slam... In a 13 month span she's accumulated the same number of tier-1 titles, 5, that her brother accumulated over a 4 year period. In fact, her 3 slam finals over a period of 5 events is just one less than her brother's total over a span of 18 majors. Yet people seem to over-glorify Safin and take pot shots at Safina..... Dementieva has 0 slams, but she doesn't get bashed nearly as much as Safina.

Haters can't stand the fact that Serena basically sits on her butt 45 weeks of the year (last non-slam title was in April 2008, btw) and only turns it up for AO (on odd years)/Wimby/USO (finally after a 6 year hiatus)/Miami, but can't be #1. She's had #1 in 2008 and 2009 and her stints were rather short, so she doesn't care to keep it. Serena is NOT a goddess, but I'll let the Serenatards and Safina haters dream about her in a bikini (2009 Serena, not 2004).

By hater logic:
Susan Lucci is a terrible actress to get nominated 18 times for a Daytime Emmy before finally winning one...
Thomas Edison was a fool for trying over 1000 times before getting the light bulb to work...
The Red Sox fans were crazy to think they would be around to see them win a World Series while the Yankees were owning them (2 WS this decade)...
White Sox are cursed and doomed to never win a World Series... oops!
Hockey in Anaheim...BLASPHEMY!... huh?
Mickelson sucks and will always choke... sorry, but that's reserved for Sergio Garcia

If/when Safina wins a slam, great. If not, she'll have had a very successful career nonetheless. She's not playing to satisfy her critics and insane Serenatards/Russian haters. She playing to win events, make tons of money, and establish her name among the elite. As she should. Safina's tune should be "Hate Me Now" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1cBA5AvxFc).

joo.
Sep 4th, 2009, 02:29 PM
:weirdo:

pierce85
Sep 4th, 2009, 02:33 PM
Safina gets bashed here and TT for not winning a slam. As if it was so easy to win a slam... In a 13 month span she's accumulated the same number of tier-1 titles, 5, that her brother accumulated over a 4 year period. In fact, her 3 slam finals over a period of 5 events is just one less than her brother's total over a span of 18 majors. Yet people seem to over-glorify Safin and take pot shots at Safina..... Dementieva has 0 slams, but she doesn't get bashed nearly as much as Safina.

Haters can't stand the fact that Serena basically sits on her butt 45 weeks of the year (last non-slam title was in April 2008, btw) and only turns it up for AO (on odd years)/Wimby/USO (finally after a 6 year hiatus)/Miami, but can't be #1. She's had #1 in 2008 and 2009 and her stints were rather short, so she doesn't care to keep it. Serena is NOT a goddess, but I'll let the Serenatards and Safina haters dream about her in a bikini (2009 Serena, not 2004).

By hater logic:
Susan Lucci is a terrible actress to get nominated 18 times for a Daytime Emmy before finally winning one...
Thomas Edison was a fool for trying over 1000 times before getting the light bulb to work...
The Red Sox fans were crazy to think they would be around to see them win a World Series while the Yankees were owning them (2 WS this decade)...
White Sox are cursed and doomed to never win a World Series... oops!
Hockey in Anaheim...BLASPHEMY!... huh?
Mickelson sucks and will always choke... sorry, but that's reserved for Sergio Garcia

If/when Safina wins a slam, great. If not, she'll have had a very successful career nonetheless. She's not playing to satisfy her critics and insane Serenatards/Russian haters. She playing to win events, make tons of money, and establish her name among the elite. As she should.

good post but you won't accomplish anything,it's like talking to a brick wall.for them safina is an abomination to tennis and should be banned from playing the sport forever and then possibly mauled to death.

till now we only had the hooligans in football.they are the new breed,the tennis hooligans...madder,meaner and without pity

Svetlana.
Sep 4th, 2009, 02:44 PM
good post but you won't accomplish anything,it's like talking to a brick wall.for them safina is an abomination to tennis and should be banned from playing the sport forever and then possibly mauled to death.

till now we only had the hooligans in football.they are the new breed,the tennis hooligans...madder,meaner and without pity

Plus, many of them are here not because of tennis, but because of certain players. Very likely, they will disappear from this board once their favorites are retired.

The Witch-king
Sep 4th, 2009, 02:44 PM
Safina gets bashed here and TT for not winning a slam. As if it was so easy to win a slam... In a 13 month span she's accumulated the same number of tier-1 titles, 5, that her brother accumulated over a 4 year period. In fact, her 3 slam finals over a period of 5 events is just one less than her brother's total over a span of 18 majors. Yet people seem to over-glorify Safin and take pot shots at Safina..... Dementieva has 0 slams, but she doesn't get bashed nearly as much as Safina.

Haters can't stand the fact that Serena basically sits on her butt 45 weeks of the year (last non-slam title was in April 2008, btw) and only turns it up for AO (on odd years)/Wimby/USO (finally after a 6 year hiatus)/Miami, but can't be #1. She's had #1 in 2008 and 2009 and her stints were rather short, so she doesn't care to keep it. Serena is NOT a goddess, but I'll let the Serenatards and Safina haters dream about her in a bikini (2009 Serena, not 2004).

By hater logic:
Susan Lucci is a terrible actress to get nominated 18 times for a Daytime Emmy before finally winning one...
Thomas Edison was a fool for trying over 1000 times before getting the light bulb to work...
The Red Sox fans were crazy to think they would be around to see them win a World Series while the Yankees were owning them (2 WS this decade)...
White Sox are cursed and doomed to never win a World Series... oops!
Hockey in Anaheim...BLASPHEMY!... huh?
Mickelson sucks and will always choke... sorry, but that's reserved for Sergio Garcia

If/when Safina wins a slam, great. If not, she'll have had a very successful career nonetheless. She's not playing to satisfy her critics and insane Serenatards/Russian haters. She playing to win events, make tons of money, and establish her name among the elite. As she should. Safina's tune should be "Hate Me Now" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1cBA5AvxFc).

i liked your post till you brought Serena into it and attempted to minimise her slam wins (Serena "only" wins AO on odd years).
I mean it's great to defend Safina because a lot of what you say is true but you can't turn around and suggest that another player is more inadequate for whatever reasons without being a straight up hypocrit. If you adopt that approach people are only going to come back at you with similar bashing arguments ie. you say Serena only brings it for slams but Safina brings it for what? Rome and Madrid. You see the vicious cycle such an argument can make?

In conclusion - if your upset with people not recognising Safina's accomplishments denigrating anothers is no way of going about it.

sammy01
Sep 4th, 2009, 02:49 PM
it would be great for safina to win, both to help the WTA save face and stop the endless safina bashing threads.

heck i was a safina hater when she started rising in the ranks but give the girl a break, never before has 1 player been slated so much for doing her best.

it still amazes me that people bash safina for trying her hardest every match. no her tennis isn't the most pleasing but heck its damn successful

HRHoliviasmith
Sep 4th, 2009, 02:52 PM
Safina gets bashed here and TT for not winning a slam. As if it was so easy to win a slam... In a 13 month span she's accumulated the same number of tier-1 titles, 5, that her brother accumulated over a 4 year period. In fact, her 3 slam finals over a period of 5 events is just one less than her brother's total over a span of 18 majors. Yet people seem to over-glorify Safin and take pot shots at Safina..... Dementieva has 0 slams, but she doesn't get bashed nearly as much as Safina.

Haters can't stand the fact that Serena basically sits on her butt 45 weeks of the year (last non-slam title was in April 2008, btw) and only turns it up for AO (on odd years)/Wimby/USO (finally after a 6 year hiatus)/Miami, but can't be #1. She's had #1 in 2008 and 2009 and her stints were rather short, so she doesn't care to keep it. Serena is NOT a goddess, but I'll let the Serenatards and Safina haters dream about her in a bikini (2009 Serena, not 2004).

By hater logic:
Susan Lucci is a terrible actress to get nominated 18 times for a Daytime Emmy before finally winning one...
Thomas Edison was a fool for trying over 1000 times before getting the light bulb to work...
The Red Sox fans were crazy to think they would be around to see them win a World Series while the Yankees were owning them (2 WS this decade)...
White Sox are cursed and doomed to never win a World Series... oops!
Hockey in Anaheim...BLASPHEMY!... huh?
Mickelson sucks and will always choke... sorry, but that's reserved for Sergio Garcia

If/when Safina wins a slam, great. If not, she'll have had a very successful career nonetheless. She's not playing to satisfy her critics and insane Serenatards/Russian haters. She playing to win events, make tons of money, and establish her name among the elite. As she should. Safina's tune should be "Hate Me Now" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1cBA5AvxFc).

Very good post!

serenus_2k8
Sep 4th, 2009, 02:52 PM
Lol like everyone who dislikes Safina is a Serena fan and/or a hater. The media is all over Safina for her pathetic displays on the big occasion, so save your preaching about WS fans bringing tennis down to a new low and the rest of that bs.

Sam L
Sep 4th, 2009, 02:58 PM
I think Dinara will win a slam one day but this isn't going to be it.

She'll probably win her first at the French Open.

MechWarrior2k
Sep 4th, 2009, 03:03 PM
i liked your post till you brought Serena into it and attempted to minimise her slam wins (Serena "only" wins AO on odd years).
I mean it's great to defend Safina because a lot of what you say is true but you can't turn around and suggest that another player is more inadequate for whatever reasons without being a straight up hypocrit. If you adopt that approach people are only going to come back at you with similar bashing arguments ie. you say Serena only brings it for slams but Safina brings it for what? Rome and Madrid. You see the vicious cycle such an argument can make?

In conclusion - if your upset with people not recognising Safina's accomplishments denigrating anothers is no way of going about it.

It's true Serena only wins the AO on odd years. Heck if you win an event 1/2 the time you practically own the event, so that's no knock on Serena. There's no denying Serena is a great player. She could even be greater if her attitude towards tour events was something close to her approach to slam events. Frightening thought, but Serena lately has opted not to go after winning the Tier-1 events other than for Miami.

The reality is a huge base of Safina haters are Serena fans. Serena even fueled this when she laughed off Safina for winning Rome and Madrid. Serena should have just left it at beating Safina at the AO. Serena owns the head-to-head, but it was her loss to Safina in Berlin that propelled Safina's rapid rise. I don't like Serena, but I'm not going to throw mud at her accomplishments and make it sound like she's a talentless hack which some Serena fans (not all) and much of the media depict Safina as. It really should not be Serena fans vs Safina fans as a) they don't play each other than often, b) Serena is focused on slams and Miami before her career is up while Safina seeks her maiden slam and to make a name for herself among the elite and in her family, c) both players have their share of opponents they have scores to settle.

My last post was intended to lash back at haters and in doing so I threw in a certain faction of Serena fans. It wasn't intended to bash the loyal, friendly base of Serena fans. Just the extreme faction called Serenatards. As much as I like Safina, I've been quite critical of her in some of my posts.

pierce85
Sep 4th, 2009, 03:08 PM
Lol like everyone who dislikes Safina is a Serena fan and/or a hater. The media is all over Safina for her pathetic displays on the big occasion, so save your preaching about WS fans bringing tennis down to a new low and the rest of that bs.

i totally agree honey...the media started this massacre,and of course the media can easily brain wash horny,britney loving 15 year olds(which if i assumed right is the main target group of this forum)after the media started accusing dinara the tennis "fans" started raving about her...

if the media wrote that dinara had tentacles instead of hands i'm sure the majority in this forum would believe it...

kiwifan
Sep 4th, 2009, 03:32 PM
It's true Serena only wins the AO on odd years. Heck if you win an event 1/2 the time you practically own the event, so that's no knock on Serena. There's no denying Serena is a great player. She could even be greater if her attitude towards tour events was something close to her approach to slam events. Frightening thought, but Serena lately has opted not to go after winning the Tier-1 events other than for Miami.

The reality is a huge base of Safina haters are Serena fans.

Not True. :p

The reality is that every fanbase blames Serena fans for anything negative directed towards their favorite player. :yawn:

They do that hoping for sympathy from fans of other players.

Why would Serena fans care about Safina?

Serena's supporters are counting Slams, singles, doubles, mixed.

Safina is no threat.

Hingis fans used to brag about weeks "ranked" at number one.

Henin fans used to brag about weeks "ranked" at number one.

Find me a post in the last 9 years where Serena's fans cared about weeks "ranked" at number one...if we didn't care when Hingis fans and Henin fans were bragging; why would we care when a Slamless player is number one. Actually Safina is getter better treatment than Jelena got even though she has come up small in her Slam finals, so "quitcherwhinin"

For the record, I support Safina when she isn't playing against anyone I like more than her, no hate...she's got a long way to go to rise to that level. :lol:

harloo
Sep 4th, 2009, 03:36 PM
Lol like everyone who dislikes Safina is a Serena fan and/or a hater. The media is all over Safina for her pathetic displays on the big occasion, so save your preaching about WS fans bringing tennis down to a new low and the rest of that bs.

What really kills me is these posters acting like Safina is the first player in the history of women's tennis to have her #1 spot questioned.

Hingis held the #1 position for nearly two years and couldn't win another slam. She was the butt of every joke and the commentators had many harsh words in regards to Hingis. The fans weren't sympathetic either. Clijsters was without a slam for years and I remember the negativity surrounding her #1 seeding. Did she crumble because of that criticism?

The difference is both these ladies went out an played competitive tennis despite not being able to win a slam. The only reason Dinara is on the receiving end of more harsh criticism is because her level is horrendous against players a #1 should easily defeat.

The pity party needs to end. If Dinara and her supporters think it will stop if she wins a slam they're deluded. With your first grand slam title win comes more pressure and expectations from the tennis establishment. Get back to me when Dinara is called an animal, said to be overweight, attacked by fans, bashed by legends, and is the focal point of every every negative discussion/article in relation to women's tennis. As top dog, I don't think she's even experienced a fraction of the nastiness former #1 players have had to endure.

This is not high school, we're talking about a professional sport with millions of fans and dollars on the line. Dinara needs to find strength within herself to endure the attacks and persevere because things aren't going to change. You don't think the commentator's love this opportunity to bash the women's game? They've been doing it for years so why does anyone think they would soften up for one player? SMH @ the notion.

Personally, I think Dinara would play better if she falls out of the top five. Maybe she could sneak in a slam win somewhere? I know that she better do it soon before Kim gets in top form and Justine makes her comeback.

AkademiQ
Sep 4th, 2009, 03:39 PM
What really kills me is these posters acting like Safina is the first player in the history of women's tennis to have her #1 spot questioned.

Hingis held the #1 position for nearly two years and couldn't win another slam. She was the butt of every joke and the commentators had many harsh words in regards to Hingis. The fans weren't sympathetic either.

Clijsters was without a slam for years and I remember the negativity surrounding her #1 seeding. Did she crumble because of that criticism?

The difference is both these ladies went out an played competitive tennis despite not being able to win a slam. The only reason Dinara is on the receiving end of more harsh criticism is because her level is horrendous against players a #1 player should easily defeat.

The pity party needs to end. If Dinara and her supporters think it will stop if she wins a slam they're deluded. With your first grand slam title win comes more pressure and expectations from the tennis establishment.

Get back to me when Dinara is called an animal, said to be overweight, attacked by fans, bashed by legends, and is the focal point of every every negative discussion in relation to women's tennis. As a #1 player I don't think she's even experienced the brunt of nastiness that other #1 players before her have endured.

This is not high school, we're talking about a professional sport with millions of fans and dollars on the line. Dinara needs to find strength within herself to endure the attacks and persevere because things aren't going to change. You don't think the commentator's love this opportunity to bash the women's game? They've been doing it for years so why does anyone think they would soften up for one player? SMH @ the notion.

Personally, I think Dinara would play better if she falls out of the top five. Maybe she could sneak in a slam win somewhere? I know that she better do it soon before Kim gets in top form and Justine makes her comeback. .

:worship:

serenus_2k8
Sep 4th, 2009, 03:56 PM
What really kills me is these posters acting like Safina is the first player in the history of women's tennis to have her #1 spot questioned.

Hingis held the #1 position for nearly two years and couldn't win another slam. She was the butt of every joke and the commentators had many harsh words in regards to Hingis. The fans weren't sympathetic either. Clijsters was without a slam for years and I remember the negativity surrounding her #1 seeding. Did she crumble because of that criticism?

The difference is both these ladies went out an played competitive tennis despite not being able to win a slam. The only reason Dinara is on the receiving end of more harsh criticism is because her level is horrendous against players a #1 should easily defeat.

The pity party needs to end. If Dinara and her supporters think it will stop if she wins a slam they're deluded. With your first grand slam title win comes more pressure and expectations from the tennis establishment. Get back to me when Dinara is called an animal, said to be overweight, attacked by fans, bashed by legends, and is the focal point of every every negative discussion/article in relation to women's tennis. As top dog, I don't think she's even experienced a fraction of the nastiness former #1 players have had to endure.

This is not high school, we're talking about a professional sport with millions of fans and dollars on the line. Dinara needs to find strength within herself to endure the attacks and persevere because things aren't going to change. You don't think the commentator's love this opportunity to bash the women's game? They've been doing it for years so why does anyone think they would soften up for one player? SMH @ the notion.

Personally, I think Dinara would play better if she falls out of the top five. Maybe she could sneak in a slam win somewhere? I know that she better do it soon before Kim gets in top form and Justine makes her comeback.

I couldnt agree more :yeah: Dinara is insulted only on a professional level - Serena has that and everything in between and she still keeps coming back and winning ;)

Donny
Sep 4th, 2009, 03:58 PM
My last post was intended to lash back at haters and in doing so I threw in a certain faction of Serena fans. It wasn't intended to bash the loyal, friendly base of Serena fans. Just the extreme faction called Serenatards. As much as I like Safina, I've been quite critical of her in some of my posts.

Can I call the Safina fans in this thread Safinatards or something equally derogatory? Or is that only OK to describe Serena fans?

sammy01
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:07 PM
Can I call the Safina fans in this thread Safinatards or something equally derogatory? Or is that only OK to describe Serena fans?

you could just do what most posters do and say 'how could anyone be a fan of safina' like theres something wrong with them for liking the girl.

Donny
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:10 PM
you could just do what most posters do and say 'how could anyone be a fan of safina' like theres something wrong with them for liking the girl.

I wouldn't go that far, but I will say this: If you REALLY want Safina to make it to the finals playing this kind of godawful tennis, then you have some serious issues. I would not want to watch a match where Serena is playing as bad as Safina is now.

Golovinjured.
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:11 PM
Serena has overcome so much! :worship:

SharapovaFTW
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:14 PM
As the OP I have to ask how any of this involves Serena? Why do fans of hers always do this? I didn't even mention her in my post, nor did any thought of her enter my mind while I was creating this thread. What the fuck is wrong with you people? I'm rooting for Safina and Maria (my favorite player) is in her half of the draw. Why do you guys constantly do this? If a post isn't about your player stop taking it as disrespect or haterism. God that shit is getting really old.

Again let me repeat. The OP had absolutely nothing to do with Serena so stop fucking talking about her and bringing her into every thread. Some of you are overly obsessive and it is scary. I'm a member of numerous sports forums and when someone starts talking about Tom Brady, I don't go off topic and start yapping about my teams QB Matt Ryan. It's fucking lame. Keep the fucking thread on topic.

As for you serenus2k827373 go see a doctor. Go to your favorite players forum and stop making everything about your favorite player. You're not a tennis fan.

Svetlana.
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:15 PM
I wouldn't go that far, but I will say this: If you REALLY want Safina to make it to the finals playing this kind of godawful tennis, then you have some serious issues. I would not want to watch a match where Serena is playing as bad as Safina is now.

Is it why you're spending so much time in Dinara's threads and make negative comments about her?

Svetlana.
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:18 PM
As the OP I have to ask how any of this involves Serena? Why do fans of hers always do this? I didn't even mention her in my post, nor did any thought of her enter my mind while I was creating this thread. What the fuck is wrong with you people? I'm rooting for Safina and Maria (my favorite player) is in her half of the draw. Why do you guys constantly do this? If a post isn't about your player stop taking it as disrespect or haterism. God that shit is getting really old.

because the Safina's ranking is really bothering them :) They still cannot get it - how a girl like Safina can be a #1 player and Serena cannot.

dexx80
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:18 PM
Everybody is so negative towards her, i realy hope she does good her. if she would win i would be happy.

Ksenia.
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:27 PM
It is so weird that people are actually bashing Dinara. She's just a victim of WTA ranking system, is it hard to understand? :shrug:

sammy01
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:28 PM
I wouldn't go that far, but I will say this: If you REALLY want Safina to make it to the finals playing this kind of godawful tennis, then you have some serious issues. I would not want to watch a match where Serena is playing as bad as Safina is now.

so no player has ever started off a slam playing badly but improved their form? obviously safina is going to play like this the whole tournament because you said so. also if she did play shit and make the final, thats others fault for not taking advantage of it.

i don't think anyone in this thread that has said they want safina to make the final or win the tournament has said they want her to do it playing badly, thats putting words into others mouths.

Donny
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:32 PM
so no player has ever started off a slam playing badly but improved their form? obviously safina is going to play like this the whole tournament because you said so. also if she did play shit and make the final, thats others fault for not taking advantage of it.

i don't think anyone in this thread that has said they want safina to make the final or win the tournament has said they want her to do it playing badly, thats putting words into others mouths.

Safina hasn't. Not ONCE. In all the slams this year, bar Roland Garros, she played awful most of the way through, only to get destroyed in the later rounds. Why in the world would you expect the trend to change here?

SharapovaFTW
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:32 PM
so no player has ever started off a slam playing badly but improved their form? obviously safina is going to play like this the whole tournament because you said so. also if she did play shit and make the final, thats others fault for not taking advantage of it.

i don't think anyone in this thread that has said they want safina to make the final or win the tournament has said they want her to do it playing badly, thats putting words into others mouths.

Does she deserve praise for her play so far? OF COURSE NOT! Does she deserve praise for her fighting spirit? ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY! She could've folded like a lawn chair about 10 times so far in this tournament and she hasn't. For that she doesn't deserve a GS, but does deserve a little bit of cred.

pierce85
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:34 PM
Safina hasn't. Not ONCE. In all the slams this year, bar Roland Garros, she played awful most of the way through, only to get destroyed in the later rounds. Why in the world would you expect the trend to change here?

it's funny your majesty,if it wasn't for the american flag i could have sworn you grew up in north korea,where trends NEVER change

serenus_2k8
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:35 PM
so no player has ever started off a slam playing badly but improved their form? obviously safina is going to play like this the whole tournament because you said so. also if she did play shit and make the final, thats others fault for not taking advantage of it.

i don't think anyone in this thread that has said they want safina to make the final or win the tournament has said they want her to do it playing badly, thats putting words into others mouths.


Safina is no Serena. Even if she is able to turn her form around and make the final, she doesnt have the experience to call upon to help her make it through that match. And if her confidence runs short and she finds herself on Arthur Ashe vs a certain Miss Williams, this story is just gonna keep getting uglier :rolls:

harloo
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:36 PM
It is so weird that people are actually bashing Dinara. She's just a victim of WTA ranking system, is it hard to understand? :shrug:

:sad: Did you feel this sympathetic when other #1 players were bashed? I know some fans don't like it, and I don't like to see my favorite criticized but I've come to learn it's part of the game. It's the reason why the women get paid big bucks which is something that people should accept. Only Dinara can change her situation. If her form starts improving during matches the commentators will go a bit easier on her but otherwise expect them to throw her under the bus. I've seen this done many times. As the #1 player, Dinara isn't immune to that treatment and she should expect it.

Donny
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:37 PM
it's funny your majesty,if it wasn't for the american flag i could have sworn you grew up in north korea,where trends NEVER change

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_letters

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shift_key

You're welcome.

serenus_2k8
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:38 PM
Does she deserve praise for her play so far? OF COURSE NOT! Does she deserve praise for her fighting spirit? ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY! She could've folded like a lawn chair about 10 times so far in this tournament and she hasn't. For that she doesn't deserve a GS, but does deserve a little bit of cred.

You dont know waht you're talking about. Players dont deserve slams for fighting their way through the first round, its fighting their way through every single match that earns the slam. Dont talk bs about not folding early. Not folding against players like Barrois is expected of top 10 players, yet alone the world number one. Seriously, some people just chat utter sh*t. When Serena has fought and ground out wins, she has done it round after round until the final, where - guess what? She did it again. Safina should know if she wants a slam - a fighting attitude is the bare minimum.

pierce85
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:40 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_letters

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shift_key

You're welcome.

you're not of the bright lot,are you mate?that's why you can't appreciate subtle irony...doesn't matter,i still love you,you're a human being,unlike safina.

Ksenia.
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:41 PM
:sad: Did you feel this sympathetic when other #1 players were bashed? I know some fans don't like it, and I don't like to see my favorite criticized but I've come to learn it's part of the game. It's the reason why the women get paid big bucks which is something that people should accept. Only Dinara can change her situation. If her form starts improving during matches the commentators will go a bit easier on her but otherwise expect them to throw her under the bus. I've seen this done many times. As the #1 player, Dinara isn't immune to that treatment and she should expect it.I am not really sympathetic and not even a Dinara fan. I just don't understand people's logic :shrug: WTA should be bashed, not Dinara. What would someone criticize her for?

SharapovaFTW
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:45 PM
You dont know waht you're talking about. Players dont deserve slams for fighting their way through the first round, its fighting their way through every single match that earns the slam. Dont talk bs about not folding early. Not folding against players like Barrois is expected of top 10 players, yet alone the world number one. Seriously, some people just chat utter sh*t. When Serena has fought and ground out wins, she has done it round after round until the final, where - guess what? She did it again. Safina should know if she wants a slam - a fighting attitude is the bare minimum.

Yea I said she doesn't deserve a slam for her performance so far. Read my post instead of jumping all over your keyboard to talk about Serena again. Go somewhere else please and keep the Serena talk out of this fucking thread. The OP has nothing to do with her so I'm asking you to stop ok? JUST STOP! The act is tired and old. Take your BS to another thread or to her forum. I don't want to talk about her. This is about Safina, period.

And for the record let me explain what I mean by not folding. She's been down numerous times in her matches. Down breaks in the 3rd set even. What I'm saying is she could've said you know what I'm done and mentally checked out of the match. Even when things have looked their worst she hasn't done that. And let me repeat for you dumb motherfucker, she does not deserve A SLAM for her performance so far. She only deserves kudos for grinding out these matches when she is playing at her absolute worst. Jesus christ get the fuck out of here you low life piece of shit and leave Serena's name out of this thread you attention seeking whore. I have no respect for you or anything you say. :wavey:

moby
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:46 PM
So in other words: You want Safina to win solely because it'd upset other posters.

Man, I wish us Serena fans could be as mature as you guys."us Serena fans"? I thought... uh... posters speak for themselves, and not for an entire group.
At least that's what various posters caution, when generalisations about an entire fanbase are made. (As to which fanbase this is...)

So when are Serena fans a monolithic bloc and when are they not?

Anyway, I kind of agree with the OP. It would be pretty hilarious.

sammy01
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:47 PM
Safina hasn't. Not ONCE. In all the slams this year, bar Roland Garros, she played awful most of the way through, only to get destroyed in the later rounds. Why in the world would you expect the trend to change here?

so you have already decided because safina has started off the slam playing badly she will continue in that form? well thats a rather bold prediction to make.

if she does continue to play the way she is and makes the final, your disgust need not be aimed at safina just the other players who let her get away with playing like it.

volta
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:48 PM
oh this just became high-larious :haha:

harloo
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:50 PM
I am not really sympathetic and not even a Dinara fan. I just don't understand people's logic :shrug: WTA should be bashed, not Dinara. What would someone criticize her for?

Dinara is a part of the WTA. As the #1 player, she represents them on an international level. The media has NEVER been shy of criticizing sports stars. I don't quite understand why you guys are surprised. This is done to literally every professional athlete in EVERY sport.

Donny
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:53 PM
"us Serena fans"? I thought... uh... posters speak for themselves, and not for an entire group.

So when are Serena fans a monolithic bloc and when are they not?

Anyway, I kind of agree with the OP. It would be pretty hilarious.

Sarcasm flew over your head, I see.

moby
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:58 PM
Sarcasm flew over your head, I see.Poorly executed sarcasm has that effect on me.

sammy01
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:58 PM
Sarcasm flew over your head, I see.

good back tracking :worship: you lumped serena fans together like you so insist that others shouldn't

Donny
Sep 4th, 2009, 05:10 PM
good back tracking :worship: you lumped serena fans together like you so insist that others shouldn't

I was making light of the fact that posters call Serena fans immature. I'm not backtracking from anything.

serenus_2k8
Sep 4th, 2009, 05:10 PM
Yea I said she doesn't deserve a slam for her performance so far. Read my post instead of jumping all over your keyboard to talk about Serena again. Go somewhere else please and keep the Serena talk out of this fucking thread. The OP has nothing to do with her so I'm asking you to stop ok? JUST STOP! The act is tired and old. Take your BS to another thread or to her forum. I don't want to talk about her. This is about Safina, period.

And for the record let me explain what I mean by not folding. She's been down numerous times in her matches. Down breaks in the 3rd set even. What I'm saying is she could've said you know what I'm done and mentally checked out of the match. Even when things have looked their worst she hasn't done that. And let me repeat for you dumb motherfucker, she does not deserve A SLAM for her performance so far. She only deserves kudos for grinding out these matches when she is playing at her absolute worst. Jesus christ get the fuck out of here you low life piece of shit and leave Serena's name out of this thread you attention seeking whore. I have no respect for you or anything you say. :wavey:

Oh my :haha: How classy! Its funny how peoples true colours come flooding out when their opinions are attacked :tape: Im sure if anyone had any respect for your opinion, they wont after that. What a hillarious over reaction, you poor little thing :hug:

And since when did we commend #1s for NOT checking out of matches mentally :tape:

Donny
Sep 4th, 2009, 05:12 PM
Poorly executed sarcasm has that effect on me.

Posters continually call Serena fans immature. I say "man, I wish Serena fans could be as mature as you guys."

How could that be interpreted as anything but sarcasm?

CloudAtlas
Sep 4th, 2009, 05:13 PM
It is so weird that people are actually bashing Dinara. She's just a victim of WTA ranking system, is it hard to understand? :shrug:


I think it's fair to criticise her play though , I've never seen anyone play as badly as she has yet win so many matches. She played well during the FO until the final and then played a decent match against Clijters but other than that she's played ugly tennis in almost all of her matches this year.

pierce85
Sep 4th, 2009, 05:15 PM
Posters continually call Serena fans immature. I say "man, I wish Serena fans could be as mature as you guys."

How could that be interpreted as anything but sarcasm?

stop posting so fast.you'll get a tennis elbow.

volta
Sep 4th, 2009, 05:18 PM
players forum? :confused:

Olrin
Sep 4th, 2009, 05:19 PM
Poorly executed sarcasm has that effect on me.

Nevertheless, it was interesting how quick you were to pick up on that phrasing, sarcasm or not.

Svetlana.
Sep 4th, 2009, 05:26 PM
I think it's fair to criticise her play though

Sure, but why do people have to do it here, for instance? Open your own thread or use already existed one for that matter. There are already hundreds of open threads about how Safina sucks. But show a little decency to the fans who want to express their sympathy to Dinara.

serenus_2k8
Sep 4th, 2009, 05:30 PM
Sure, but why do people have to do it here, for instance? Open your own thread or use already existed one for that matter. There are already hundreds of open threads about how Safina sucks. But show a little decency to the fans who want to express their sympathy to Dinara.

Then they can go and do so with the rest of Dinara fans in her players forum. If you want to start it in GM about how it would stop people arguing Serena deserves to be #1 then you have to expect this response - so stop whining. :baby:

Svetlana.
Sep 4th, 2009, 05:31 PM
Why would people even open a thread like this one if they are not rooting for Dinara? Isn't the tread title clear enough? "I'm rooting for Dinara Safina..." Most of the people here I’m assume older than 14.

Kipling
Sep 4th, 2009, 05:31 PM
Its funny how peoples true colours come flooding out when their opinions are attacked :tape: ape:

And it's telling that you can't even describe your responses, and those of others who constantly feel a need to belittle, without using a word like "attack".

Typical.

serenus_2k8
Sep 4th, 2009, 05:37 PM
Why would people even open a thread like this one if they are not rooting for Dinara? Isn't the tread title clear enough? "I'm rooting for Dinara Safina..." Most of the people here I’m assume older than 14.

Well I'll assume that was supposed to make sense then. If someone posts a thread saying I'm rooting over Dinara, that gives every other fan the right to know why they feel Dinara deserves it more than the players they're supposrting. And since when was GM intended solely for people with the same views to post in the same threads? Save your mindless bs.



And it's telling that you can't even describe your responses, and those of others who constantly feel a need to belittle, without using a word like "attack".

Typical.

Peoples opinions are always attacked in forums - thats just a fact. If you dont like my choice of words thats fine, I aint gonna lose any sleep over you disliking a bit of artistic license.

As far as typical goes, how about you taking a dislike to a post by a WS fan while the post quoted within that reply contains 'dumb motherfucker' 'low life piece of shit' and 'jesus christ' Hows that for double standards? Typical :tape: