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LightWarrior
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:01 AM
And proves the wta is a real hot mess right now more than ever. Dementieva, the recent Toronto winner and leading the US Open series just pathetically crashed out today once again in a GS. Jankovic, winner of mandatory Cincy did the same. With a bunch of losers like these two (Safina should follow suit soon) when it matters, what needs to be done to save the Tour ? Meanwhile Serena is all pumped up, and is clearly the favourite for the USO, and must be laughing inside.

Matt01
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:06 AM
Another quality thread from alwaysfails999 :worship:

CR3WLFC
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:07 AM
Another quality thread from alwaysfails999 :worship:

LMFAOO

M.P
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:08 AM
Serena wining USO won't helping WTA too
becoz she is also a hot mess outside Grand Slam
and you are always fail

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:09 AM
The proof that the better athletes are going to win in the 5 matches in 7 days format

LightWarrior
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:17 AM
Serena wining USO won't helping WTA too
becoz she is also a hot mess outside Grand Slam
and you are always fail

Ok, first you have a problem of understanding my thread. Second you are being reported, just like the other two who are here to insult other forumers.

joz
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:18 AM
And proves the wta is a real hot mess right now more than ever. Dementieva, the recent Toronto winner and leading the US Open series just pathetically crashed out today once again in a GS. Jankovic, winner of mandatory Cincy did the same. With a bunch of losers like these two (Safina should follow suit soon) when it matters, what needs to be done to save the Tour ? Meanwhile Serena is all pumped up, and is clearly the favourite for the USO, and must be laughing inside.
You say "when it matters" ... but you could clearly argue... slams aren't that tough if Safina playing as bad as she's played can still win two matches. Her opponents should not have been in a GS... or maybe... they should have been... which shows how slams are really not that tough until the final rounds. Perhaps the slams should only be one week and 32 players. Premiere I's are way tougher as the players have to play tough matches right off the bat. If the "wta is a real hot mess" it's because its stars... Serena... don't care about the tour... only the slams. That's why it's a mess... and that plain and simple is why there's a number one that people despise.
By Serena's standards... of only caring about the slams and can't get motivated for the other events... Janko and Demie could say they only care about playing tough players and can't get motivated for weaker opponents. So in other words... Demie and Janko's losses today "prove" only that they are players who take what should be an easy match too lightly... and they lose.
If Serena's right... then let's quit playing the rest of the season and play only the slams... The SLAMS are rediculus... look at some of the players. Women in this tournament and ranked in the 60's have like 10-16 lifettime records and 7-9 2009 records.... THEY SHOULD NOT be in slams... that says the tour does not have enough depth to field a "slam field". I'm always stunned when I open up player bios who are ranked in the 60's and find they have losing lifetime and losing current year records. MY God, there are more than 1000 players... they should have more wins to be in a slam.

KournikovaFan91
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:18 AM
STFU.

Would you prefer all players took Serena's attitude to the tour and didn't bother attending most normal tournaments, why not scrap the whole WTA tour and just have Grand Slams, that would be wonderful :rolleyes:


The Tour has depth which is why upsets happen.

Also Serena's sis didn't exactly have a cake walk against Dushevina.

Matt01
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:25 AM
Ok, first you have a problem of understanding my thread. Second you are being reported, just like the other two who are here to insult other forumers.


:baby:

LightWarrior
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:30 AM
STFU.

Would you prefer all players took Serena's attitude to the tour and didn't bother attending most normal tournaments, why not scrap the whole WTA tour and just have Grand Slams, that would be wonderful :rolleyes:


The Tour has depth which is why upsets happen.

Also Serena's sis didn't exactly have a cake walk against Dushevina.

Well, apparently not all players - and certainly not Dementieva nor Jankovic - have the mental power that makes a real champion. I'm not happy about it. But you don't see a Federer winning Cincy or Murray winning Montreal pathetically crashing out in the 2nd round of the USO.
Oh and btw Venus didn't lose against Dushevina.
But I sympathize with your bitterness and that of others.

Dini.
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:33 AM
I think the upsets happened because Oudin and Shvedova played lights out when they had to: a lot of heart and fight. :shrug: They were a revelation and I actually think they're good for the game - new faces with a lot of variety. That doesn't make Dementieva and Jankovic crap players.

KournikovaFan91
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:35 AM
Jankovic didn't play badly from what I saw, I didn't see Dementieva so cannot comment.

This shows Shvedova just upped her game.

AnomyBC
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:37 AM
It doesn't prove Serena right... it just proves she has no competition in slams these days :sad:

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:38 AM
Well, apparently not all players - and certainly not Dementieva nor Jankovic - have the mental power that makes a real champion. I'm not happy about it. But you don't see a Federer winning Cincy or Murray winning Montreal pathetically crashing out in the 2nd round of the USO.
Oh and btw Venus didn't lose against Dushevina.
But I sympathize with your bitterness and that of others.

D'joker pathetically crashed out in the 3rd of Roland Garros :shrug:

tennnisfannn
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:42 AM
Elena and JJ's losses have nothing to do with serena but everything to do with Oudin and shevdonova (sp)!

tennnisfannn
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:46 AM
D'joker pathetically crashed out in the 3rd of Roland Garros :shrug:
and so did King Nadal after a fabulous clay season! Upsets happen, get over it and stop bashing elena and jj, their fans are suffering enough as it is!

LightWarrior
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:47 AM
D'joker pathetically crashed out in the 3rd of Roland Garros :shrug:

Had D'joker won tournaments the last few months previously to his RG defeat ? No. Anyway, my point is that it's getting ludicrous that long time top 5 players are unable to win a slam, or even to perform well when they're doing great outside of GS.

John.
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:47 AM
They both ran into to opponents who raised their level a bit more than they did today :shrug:

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:49 AM
Had D'joker won tournaments the last few months previously to his RG defeat ? No. Anyway, my point is that it's getting ludicrous that long time top 5 players are unable to win a slam, or even to perform well when they're doing great outside of GS.

Title in Belgrade , Finals in Monaco and Rome , classic semi match vs Rafa in Madrid

LightWarrior
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:53 AM
and so did King Nadal after a fabulous clay season! Upsets happen, get over it and stop bashing elena and jj, their fans are suffering enough as it is!

Nadal played with a knee injury at RG, which forced him to pull out of Wimbledon. I'm not bashing JJ and Elena personally. All I'm saying is that the tour cannot continue the way it is, with a player winning the 3 of the last 4 GS (and maybe soon 4 of the last 5). I'm not even defending Serena here. But something has to done to adapt to the current situation.

Wtrain
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:53 AM
The proof that the better athletes are going to win in the 5 matches in 7 days format

ummmmmm..... no :lol:

LightWarrior
Sep 4th, 2009, 02:02 AM
The proof that the better athletes are going to win in the 5 matches in 7 days format

You're making a fool of yourself here. Or is that just idotic provocation ?

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Sep 4th, 2009, 02:19 AM
You're making a fool of yourself here. Or is that just idotic provocation ?

Are you a :weirdo: ?

Jankovic and Dementieva win regular tournaments mainly cos they are great athletes and the format 5-6 matches in 7 days is favorable for them . You can see how both are fresh in semis or Finals and their rivals tired

LightWarrior
Sep 4th, 2009, 02:28 AM
Are you a :weirdo: ?

Jankovic and Dementieva win regular tournaments mainly cos they are great athletes and the format 5-6 matches in 7 days is favorable for them . You can see how both are fresh in semis or Finals and their rivals tired

Yeah, great athletes, but not great champions. Dream on.

Noctis
Sep 4th, 2009, 02:30 AM
:spit: :baby:

Lindsayfan32
Sep 4th, 2009, 03:07 AM
Elena and JJ's losses have nothing to do with serena but everything to do with Oudin and shevdonova (sp)!

Every time there's an upset the tour is a hot mess. It's great to see the young up and comers like Oudin and Shevdonova beat the top players. Let's face it the Williams sisters are only dominating again as the players who could beat them regularly are now retired. I totally agree with you tennnisfannn. The tour will be better off when Serena retires and its not just her domination that I'm talking.

spice_of_life
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:24 AM
This just proves that Serena has ZERO competition (well other than Venus) in the slams. She doesn't have to take the regular tour seriously because she knows she can show up at the slams and beat everyone anyway. I'm glad I'm not in charge of the WTA tour these days. It's just a mess. :o

trufanjay
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:28 AM
Serena wining USO won't helping WTA too
becoz she is also a hot mess outside Grand Slam
and you are always fail
Let her be a hot mess outside the slams......and still go on her way to become one of the best female tennis players ever! By winning more slams!!!:worship::)

joz
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:29 AM
This just proves that Serena has ZERO competition (well other than Venus) in the slams. :o
Or does it prove she needs a day of rest to be able to be motivated and win?

trufanjay
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:38 AM
Or does it prove she needs a day of rest to be able to be motivated and win?
who cares!!!!! :lol:

Midnight_Robber
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:45 AM
I'm not a JJ fan but given some of the highly personal circumstances that surrounded her defeat, is it really necessary to crow and call her a 'loser'? :rolleyes:

Sure, the tour is in disarray and guess what? Serena is part and parcel of that disarray - rumour even has it that she is a member of the same WTA that you so cavalierly criticise. In effect she's a part of the current trainwreck - ro to use your words, "hot mess" - along with all of the top five and even top ten. (It's too easy to scapegoat Safina as a lone player when not one of the other players ranked beneath her doing enough to make the supposedly elite end of the sport look credible or to make a genuine bid for the top ranking. In their own way each and everyone of the top ten falls short of what it takes to be a credible number 1. There is plenty of blame to go around for all involved.)

The only thing that these current losses substantiate is that there is no week-to-week consistency amongst ANY of the top players, period. At present we do not have a player who can:

a.) Win at the slams
b.) ...while wining at the premier tournaments the slams
c.) ...and winning the odd international on the way.
d.) All the while firmly holding on to the number 1 ranking.

Once upon a time that's what number 1 players (generally) used to do. They'd actually win slams AND other tournaments and amass points - and no-one used to think that it was too much to ask for. If we could expect this of Graf, Seles, Navratilova, Evert, King, Court, Moody etc. then why can't we place the same demands on the current crop of players? Players were expected to meet these standards rather than fans lobbying to have the standards lowered to meet the players.

And as loathe as I am to admit it, the only other thing the current situation proves is that Justine Henin supporters and admirers may actually have had a point all along. :tape: She was the last number one who could accomplish that now seemingly mythical feat of actually winning slams and tournaments...at the same time. :eek: And I say this as someone who has never been a fan of Justine in way, shape or form...

joz
Sep 4th, 2009, 05:19 AM
who cares!!!!! :lol:
Well, you could argue that's why she doesn't care about non slams... becasue she is not able to meet the daily grind... and that's all fine... but don't belittle those tournaments that require you to play 5 top 40 players in a row to win a tournament... just because they are non slams. Why not just say "you know physically and mentally I cannot do that anymore" . In some ways Serena does say that, "at this point in my career..." but don't slam those that can compete at that type of demanding level by minimizing (through comments) tournaments like Rome and Madrid.