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ElusiveChanteuse
Sep 3rd, 2009, 04:32 PM
Any one? :tape: especially in recent years?:confused:

BuTtErFrEnA
Sep 3rd, 2009, 04:34 PM
the wimbledon final last year that everyone called boring

LegionArgentina
Sep 3rd, 2009, 04:34 PM
Interesiting to know too.
:scared: :tape:

Miss Atomic Bomb
Sep 3rd, 2009, 04:36 PM
Wimbledon Semifinal this year


http://i26.tinypic.com/28sphk1.png

thegreendestiny
Sep 3rd, 2009, 04:37 PM
Roland Garros 2009 R2: Sharapova-Petrova :)

Ferg
Sep 3rd, 2009, 04:38 PM
Australian Open 2009, Bartoli-Jankovic.

BuTtErFrEnA
Sep 3rd, 2009, 04:38 PM
i think maybe the us open final from last year, and maybe the qf from last year as well

Miss Atomic Bomb
Sep 4th, 2009, 06:46 PM
Todays 3R match between Serena and MJMS.

Serena - 30 winners/17 UEs
MJMS - 18 winners/17UEs

BuTtErFrEnA
Sep 4th, 2009, 06:50 PM
mjms broke even :p

gentenaire
Sep 4th, 2009, 11:04 PM
It depends on who does the counting and what they consider unforced.
I've had the live stats on during several matches. An awful lot of points that they count as unforced, aren't unforced at all, IMO.

DownTheLine21
Sep 5th, 2009, 12:07 AM
2008 USO 4R: [15] Schnyder def. [28] Srebotnik 4-6 6-3 6-3

Schnyder: 40 W/ 21 UE

Srebotnik: 45 W/ 23 UE

Libertango
Sep 5th, 2009, 12:09 AM
Still :worship: @ Serena's 20 aces in her WImby SF.

Petkorazzi
Sep 5th, 2009, 12:34 AM
2008 USO 4R: [15] Schnyder def. [28] Srebotnik 4-6 6-3 6-3

Schnyder: 40 W/ 21 UE

Srebotnik: 45 W/ 23 UE
Their RG R4 was great too, I'm sure that must have had a positive w/e ratio also.

I think there are pretty many of these. :shrug: In King-Stosur, Vania had like +7 and Sam just -1 and she didn't even play that well.

TheBoiledEgg
Sep 5th, 2009, 01:41 AM
IN most cases when a player attacks net, its always gonna be either a winner or a forced error.

so lots or winners and UE's are just not there cos its not counted as one.

Kworb
Sep 5th, 2009, 01:46 AM
2008 US Open QF

Safina 25 W 19 UE
Pennetta 13 W 8 UE

duhcity
Sep 5th, 2009, 01:54 AM
Iusually give players at least a -6 or -7 ratio before I call them bad.

Ive seen Jankovic, Serena, and another players go for shots that should be outright winners, and get them over the net but out. To me those shouldnt count as errors.

BuTtErFrEnA
Sep 5th, 2009, 02:06 AM
:topic: dent had 121 winners in his match tonight :rolls:

Matt.
Sep 5th, 2009, 03:46 AM
I don't have the numbers with me, but when Azarenka and Radwanska played (I believe indoors, late last season?) they both had positive ratios, about +10 on each side. I have it saved on my computer; it was a very clean match.

zxcVbnm88
Sep 5th, 2009, 03:54 AM
the wimbledon final last year that everyone called boring

and Serena was something like 19-6 (W-UE) in the 1st set but still lost the set 5-7?

Olórin
Sep 5th, 2009, 02:13 PM
and Serena was something like 19-6 (W-UE) in the 1st set but still lost the set 5-7?

Can I brush that chip off your shoulder for you?

BuTtErFrEnA
Sep 5th, 2009, 02:17 PM
and Serena was something like 19-6 (W-UE) in the 1st set but still lost the set 5-7?

i don't get what that has to do with it...it was a match in which both players had a positive differential :scratch:



i got revenge this year stopping the 3 peat so :nerner:

gentenaire
Sep 5th, 2009, 02:18 PM
Iusually give players at least a -6 or -7 ratio before I call them bad.

Ive seen Jankovic, Serena, and another players go for shots that should be outright winners, and get them over the net but out. To me those shouldnt count as errors.

Exactly!
I was closely paying attention to the stats during the Clijsters- Flipkens match yesterday.
Kim would speed up the ball all of a sudden, something that could have been a winner, but Flipkens still managed to hit it, though she hit it in the net. This was counted as unforced.
Then, Kim ran up the net and as a result, Flipkens hit the ball in the net. This was once again counted as unforced. The thing is, that wasn't unforced at all, had Kim not been standing there at the net, Kirsten wouldn't have hit it in the net.

People always go on and on about how the men fit far more winners. But that's only normal. They have more strenght, their shots are faster. In women's tennis, players can still get to a ball that would have been a winner in men's tennis. And when they hit the ball out or in the net, it's counted as unforced. That's so wrong.
Also, because the shots are slower, they have to give the ball more angle, really go for the lines, take more risks and so you automatically get more unforced errors.

allrounder
Sep 5th, 2009, 02:20 PM
Vika's 4th round with Petrova at Wimbledon this year:

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w58/mofers/azapet.jpg

Elwin.
Sep 5th, 2009, 02:27 PM
Wimbledon R3 2007

Krajicek 43 W / 33 UE
Chakvetadze 48 W / 41 UE

Corswandt
Sep 5th, 2009, 03:30 PM
Matches in which both players having positive winners-unforced errors ratio???

Sharapova d. Domachowska last year in Canada.

The Kaz
Sep 5th, 2009, 03:45 PM
Valerie Tretault vs. Na Li at Montreal in 2006 maybe?? :p ;)

MechWarrior2k
Sep 5th, 2009, 03:48 PM
The YEC RR match between Serena and Venus in 2008. Venus stomped Serena, but for ONCE it was not an error-fest as both hit over 30 winners and I believe both made under 20 UEs each.

AnywhereButHome
Sep 5th, 2009, 03:55 PM
1R:Wimbledon:Venus Williams vs Stefanie Voegele :P
Venus 29 winners 11 UES
Voegele 14winners 10 UES

AnywhereButHome
Sep 5th, 2009, 03:56 PM
Serena Williams vs Vinci - Wimbledon 3R

AnywhereButHome
Sep 5th, 2009, 03:59 PM
1/8 finals : WImbledon: Vesnina vs Dementieva