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Stamp Paid
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:05 PM
Richard Williams: Daughters’ resumes are full

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Richard Williams never stops trying, never stops hoping that someday his daughters will just once listen to his advice and be sensible. But of course that never happens, and so Venus Williams (http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/players/87/;_ylt=AoxTS26wQScihFf9Rlybkp.1kYt4) will surely keep playing singles and doubles at the U.S.Open, and would probably play mixed doubles if her schedule permitted.
“When you are hurt and your knee is swollen and it’s sore, and not just one but both of them, you should go home,” the father was saying Tuesday, after an afternoon practice session, before lighting up his trademark cigarillo. “In my opinion, that is what I would do. I would pull out of doubles and singles and go home if I’m hurting like that.”
We have been through this before with the Williams family, time and again. If it were up to Richard, his daughters would take a long vacation, heal their sore limbs and maybe walk off into the sunset with their 18 major trophies. That way, he could stop glowering at them, picking up tennis balls all around the practice court. He could stop worrying about them.
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Instead, Richard tells them to stop twisting their aching joints or torn muscles. He tells the press the same thing about his daughters. Then Venus or Serena ignores him and goes on to win another Grand Slam event, another trophy.
It happened at Wimbledon this summer, when Venus was limping hopelessly around on a bad left knee and still advanced all the way to the final against her sister. It is happening again here at Flushing Meadows, where both sisters are battling injuries while clambering through the brackets.
Serena has a sore ankle and left knee, the father revealed. Venus is worse off, although she will never admit it. She required lengthy on-court bandaging early during her traumatic three-set victory on Monday night over Vera Dushevina. On the practice court Tuesday, she wore a brace on the left knee that appeared even more intrusive than the bandages at Wimbledon.
“Then when she got home after Wimbledon, her knees were so sore,” Richard Williams said. “When she got to Cincinnati, she couldn’t play.”
Out on the court Tuesday, Venus didn’t look like much of a world beater. It is always tough to tell with her, though. She has a chronic limp at slow gait, because one leg is slightly longer than the other. And she will never, ever admit to a physical problem. It is part of the sisters’ code.
After she nipped Dushevina late Monday night, Venus refused to speak on the matter of the lingering tendinitis in her left knee.
“I never get into details about any injuries I’m going through,” she said. “You could see I had some issues. I’m just going to do my best to get as close to 100 percent as I can for my next match.”
According to Richard, however, Venus is not close to 100 percent. He told her to skip practice Tuesday, another good piece of advice that was ignored.
“I didn’t watch much of practice,” he said. “I was watching her knee. It looks very sore. As you can see, she’s favoring it a lot. She’s not moving well.”
The problem is that Venus can drag along on two sore knees and still beat 126 of the possible 127 opponents in the draw, everyone but her own sister. Her ferocious serve and her expansive reach alone are enough to keep her in most matches.
How can you drop out, when you know you can throw your designer outfit on the court and beat almost every woman on the tour at nearly every major?
“Depends on her mind,” Richard said, of his daughter’s chances. “And her mind is very strong.”
So we’ll watch until bone grinds on bone inside Venus’ left knee, until she listens to her father and steps away from the game.
Richard knows. We know. She was out there Wednesday for a second-rounder against Bethanie Mattek-Sands (Venus won in straight sets). She’ll be out there soon enough with Serena, seeded fourth in the doubles.
They never listen. They just win championships.

mdterp01
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:07 PM
And this is funny because.......?????? :confused:

Stamp Paid
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:11 PM
And this is funny because.......?????? :confused:Because Ive never heard or seen this in Venus before and it sounded crazy. Is this true?????????????:confused:

mdterp01
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:14 PM
I've never heard that either. I was just making sure you weren't laughing that one leg was slightly longer than the other.

ce
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:15 PM
venus :hug:

serenus_2k8
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:15 PM
Ive only ever heard of this problem in people who have broken their leg to such an extent that their growth plates havent re-fused together properly.

Uranium
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:17 PM
Mary Carillo said this on Monday night.

V's a star
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:20 PM
I dunno but
Why the fuck is she still playing doubles if u cant practice u def should not play doubles she can be so fuckin dense sumtimes

Stamp Paid
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:25 PM
I've never heard that either. I was just making sure you weren't laughing that one leg was slightly longer than the other.Oh? Because if I was, what were you gonna do about it?

V-MAC
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:26 PM
I fail to see how this is so funny:scratch:

mdterp01
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:28 PM
Oh? Because if I was, what were you gonna do about it?

Ummm nothing but call you an insensitive jackass. :wavey:

Stamp Paid
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:37 PM
Ummm nothing but call you an insensitive jackass. :wavey:Grow up.

Wannabeknowitall
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:43 PM
Ive only ever heard of this problem in people who have broken their leg to such an extent that their growth plates havent re-fused together properly.
I would have to agree because I'm one of those people.

But the body isn't perfect, there is a slight possibility that it can happen in a healthy person.
She could easily have a lift in one of her sneaks like me and noone would really be able to tell.
It could also explain why she isn't as naturally fluid on her serve as her sister.

mdterp01
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:45 PM
Grow up.

Oh please...you're the one who got all "What are you gonna do about it?" I was just making sure you weren't laughing at that because its not funny. Nothing would need to be done about it really because if you would laugh at someone with a condition like that no matter how minimal, the insensitive jackass part would stand out on its own and not need to be pointed out by anyone else.

Rafito.
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:47 PM
Yes, It's true. I have noticed it before.

serenus_2k8
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:49 PM
I would have to agree because I'm one of those people.

But the body isn't perfect, there is a slight possibility that it can happen in a healthy person.
She could easily have a lift in one of her sneaks like me and noone would really be able to tell.
It could also explain why she isn't as naturally fluid on her serve as her sister.

Yeh, could be true. I know a person in the same situation as you, and nobody would be able to guess just by looking at them.

Stamp Paid
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:59 PM
Oh please...you're the one who got all "What are you gonna do about it?" I was just making sure you weren't laughing at that because its not funny. Nothing would need to be done about it really because if you would laugh at someone with a condition like that no matter how minimal, the insensitive jackass part would stand out on its own and not need to be pointed out by anyone else.Yes it would stand out on its own, thus rendering both you and your comments more irrelevant than usual.

I wasnt laughing at the condition, obviously. Which is why I posed the thread as a question. Not only have I ever noticed Venus with a chronic limp, but I've never heard anyone say that Venus had a short leg before, and I attributed its inclusion in this article to be either bad journalism or Richard saying something just to throw off reporters (in which case, it would be funny). But after reading this thread some people have said that yeah, it is true, Venus does have this condition. Thats all I was trying to find out.

I wish you dummies weren't so sensitive to everything that is said about that woman.

Dodoboy.
Sep 2nd, 2009, 09:03 PM
I think they're right, loads of giants have this problem, espiecally women.

Knizzle
Sep 2nd, 2009, 09:10 PM
I thought this was old news? I've known about her leg and limp for years. My doctor said the same thing about me, it caused increased back problems for me though.

youizahoe
Sep 2nd, 2009, 09:13 PM
My leg is 1cm longer than the other, and i wear special support soles for it. And yes, the leg that's shorter, that knee, gives problems, but it can be fixed by just those support soles.

BuTtErFrEnA
Sep 2nd, 2009, 09:56 PM
Oh please...you're the one who got all "What are you gonna do about it?" I was just making sure you weren't laughing at that because its not funny. Nothing would need to be done about it really because if you would laugh at someone with a condition like that no matter how minimal, the insensitive jackass part would stand out on its own and not need to be pointed out by anyone else.


:weirdo: said the oversensitive jackass to the insensitive one :weirdo:

mdterp01
Sep 2nd, 2009, 10:04 PM
:weirdo: said the oversensitive jackass to the insensitive one :weirdo:

:rolleyes: Whatevs....

Yes it would stand out on its own, thus rendering both you and your comments more irrelevant than usual.

So irrelevant yet you keep responding. :confused: Anywho...onto much more important things...I've never heard the term "slow" gait used before. Wide gait yes. But slow??

Golovinjured.
Sep 2nd, 2009, 11:34 PM
What is 'slow gait' ?

My leg is 1cm longer than the other, and i wear special support soles for it. And yes, the leg that's shorter, that knee, gives problems, but it can be fixed by just those support soles.

I call bullshit.

LeonHart
Sep 2nd, 2009, 11:58 PM
My sister has this problem too.

Denise4925
Sep 3rd, 2009, 12:08 AM
Mary Carillo suggested this as a guess the other night. I've never heard of Venus suffering from this condition before and I've been following her since she came on the scene.

Leave it to Mary to start another rumor. :rolleyes:

Wannabeknowitall
Sep 3rd, 2009, 12:08 AM
Interesting. Someone is not loved on this forum.
I hate the gang mentality when it's used against me but when used against others it's such a guilty pleasure.
:devil:

Steffica Greles
Sep 3rd, 2009, 12:13 AM
Hmmmmm.

Some have been saying the Williams sisters can go on into their mid-30s winning at grandslam level. The inside scoop from their father seems to cast doubt on that, particularly in regard to Venus. Mind you, Richard was advising Venus to retire at 20, before she'd even won a slam. And we've been thinking Venus and Serena are through for years.

But it'll happen sooner or later. That report seems to suggest sooner.

Remember, Steffi seemed to peak in 1995 and 1996, when her back was likened to that of a 60 year-old woman. Champions play through more pain than we can imagine.

However, by 1997, Graf was physically no longer able to go on as she had been, and her dominance was ended forever. So my point is that sometimes the end is closer than we can ever imagine when a champion is at the height of their glories.

What does next year hold for Venus, or even Serena? Hard to predict, but what Richard says is interesting.

V's a star
Sep 3rd, 2009, 12:13 AM
Mary Carillo suggested this as a guess the other night. I've never heard of Venus suffering from this condition before and I've been following her since she came on the scene.

Leave it to Mary to start another rumor. :rolleyes:

I thought it was Pam because she is also tall and can relate

Denise4925
Sep 3rd, 2009, 12:15 AM
I thought it was Pam because she is also tall and can relate

No, it was Mary.

brickhousesupporter
Sep 3rd, 2009, 12:16 AM
No, it was Mary.
it was Pam

Denise4925
Sep 3rd, 2009, 01:00 AM
I thought for sure it was Mary, but I could be wrong. :) It was one of 'em. ;)

fufuqifuqishahah
Sep 3rd, 2009, 01:04 AM
I've never heard that either. I was just making sure you weren't laughing that one leg was slightly longer than the other.


don't get offended in advance :D

Slutiana
Sep 3rd, 2009, 01:48 PM
What is 'slow gait' ?



I call bullshit.
:spit: I think we all do. :bigcry::sobbing::hysteric:

Vlover
Sep 3rd, 2009, 02:28 PM
Mind you, Richard was advising Venus to retire at 20, before she'd even won a slam. And we've been thinking Venus and Serena are through for years.
But it'll happen sooner or later. That report seems to suggest sooner.

I know this has been the wish of the Williams envy club for years but I still wouldn't suggest any victory dance just yet. I would pay more attention to what Venus and Serena say. Venus especially has made up her mind to play at the '12 Olympics and she isn't going to let anyone stop her if she is healthy. I understand Richard is old and tired now of the "tennis" life but he started it so he has to deal with it. We Venus fans know she is very goal oriented therefore we trust what she says and are looking forward to at least another 3 years.:bounce: Go Venus!

volta
Sep 3rd, 2009, 02:42 PM
I dunno but
Why the fuck is she still playing doubles if u cant practice u def should not play doubles she can be so fuckin dense sumtimes

well , she said that she is going to give it a try today and see how it feels.I do see her quitting the doubles if her knee starts to be soar but she's playing with her sis and not some random player so i can see why she wants to give it a try

Tennisstar86
Sep 3rd, 2009, 02:48 PM
Its true with most people...... that one leg is slightly longer than the other.... and the taller you are the more disproportionate you are.....

faboozadoo15
Sep 3rd, 2009, 02:50 PM
It is happening again here at Flushing Meadows, where both sisters are battling injuries while clambering through the brackets.
Serena has a sore ankle and left knee, the father revealed. Venus is worse off, although she will never admit it.
“Then when she got home after Wimbledon, her knees were so sore,” Richard Williams said. “When she got to Cincinnati, she couldn’t play.”
She has a chronic limp at slow gait, because one leg is slightly longer than the other. And she will never, ever admit to a physical problem. It is part of the sisters’ code.


:spit: :lol:
Sister code- oh my!
Has Richard forgotten Venus made the final in Stanford? :weirdo:

harloo
Sep 3rd, 2009, 02:52 PM
Mary Carillo suggested this as a guess the other night. I've never heard of Venus suffering from this condition before and I've been following her since she came on the scene.

Leave it to Mary to start another rumor. :rolleyes:

Mary has been ridiculous at the US Open this year. I knew her statement about one of Venus legs being longer than the other was a rumor. I've NEVER heard Oracene, Richard, Venus/Serena, or anyone in relation to them mention ANYTHING about this and I've been following them since the 1997 US Open.

Last night, Chris Fowler stated that Serena wasn't happy that she had to play the second match. When Serena was asked by Mary Jo Fernandez she didn't seem to care. And how does he know what Serena is feeling anyways? The commentators really need to stop making up these lies on the spot, it's really disturbing.

serenus_2k8
Sep 3rd, 2009, 03:05 PM
:spit: :lol:
Sister code- oh my!
Has Richard forgotten Venus made the final in Stanford? :weirdo:

WTF has that got to do with anything? Venus never admits shes injured and thats a fact - and have you forgotten she lost to Bartoli and almost lost to Dushevina? :tape:

Wtrain
Sep 3rd, 2009, 04:04 PM
Pam has noted it before in other tournaments.

Denise4925
Sep 3rd, 2009, 05:38 PM
Pam has noted it before in other tournaments.

But, is Pam guessing or does she have personal knowledge of it as a fact?:confused: