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Kworb
Sep 2nd, 2009, 06:25 PM
He says it would fix her mental issues. Do you agree?

égalité
Sep 2nd, 2009, 06:29 PM
:spit: :spit: :spit:

Well it worked for Justine :hearts:

jacobruiz
Sep 2nd, 2009, 06:29 PM
So he would use dying children as a tennis teaching tool? :confused:

Mrs. Dimitrova
Sep 2nd, 2009, 06:31 PM
WHAT? :o

NyCPsU
Sep 2nd, 2009, 06:31 PM
Hahaha I heard that too. :unsure:

Kworb
Sep 2nd, 2009, 06:33 PM
So he would use dying children as a tennis teaching tool? :confused:

Yes they asked him "if you were her coach what would you do to get her back to her former level" and he said "I would take her to a children's hospital and let her meet children with cancer who have no hope left, and show her she needs to use this second chance she's been given" :speakles:

Mrs. Dimitrova
Sep 2nd, 2009, 06:39 PM
Yes they asked him "if you were her coach what would you do to get her back to her former level" and he said "I would take her to a children's hospital and let her meet children with cancer who have no hope left, and show her she needs to use this second chance she's been given" :speakles:

Second chance? That made it sounded like Anna is a cancer survivor. :o

drake3781
Sep 2nd, 2009, 06:40 PM
Yes they asked him "if you were her coach what would you do to get her back to her former level" and he said "I would take her to a children's hospital and let her meet children with cancer who have no hope left, and show her she needs to use this second chance she's been given" :speakles:

OK but did these visits actually HAPPEN?

Slutiana
Sep 2nd, 2009, 06:40 PM
:spit:

Kworb
Sep 2nd, 2009, 06:41 PM
Second chance? That made it sounded like Anna is a cancer survivor. :o

I think they were talking about the trauma of the robbery.

Golovinjured.
Sep 2nd, 2009, 06:43 PM
:haha::haha::haha:

Slutati
Sep 2nd, 2009, 06:45 PM
That would probably fuck her up even more.

jrm
Sep 2nd, 2009, 06:50 PM
Mental issue? Otherwise she is a top player? I don't think so ...

fatty sausage
Sep 2nd, 2009, 06:54 PM
Chakvetadze was never the most stable even before the robbery, and it is obvious that she hasn't been the same on court since. Somehow I don't think taking her to see children with cancer will fix her state of mind.

HeninFan_2008
Sep 2nd, 2009, 07:04 PM
That's just fucked up.

Ferg
Sep 2nd, 2009, 07:10 PM
:haha:

goldenlox
Sep 2nd, 2009, 07:15 PM
They should go to an old folks home and ACHAK should leave Nick there

John.
Sep 2nd, 2009, 07:15 PM
I'm not sure that would work :scratch:

faboozadoo15
Sep 2nd, 2009, 07:20 PM
If anything, it would be inspirational to see young people fighting so hard against all odds, and maybe she could brighten up their day.

Agree though, a weird thing to say.

Noctis
Sep 2nd, 2009, 07:23 PM
Take Nadia instead

V's a star
Sep 2nd, 2009, 07:25 PM
omg ive always loved Anna but never looked up what happened with that robbery i thought it was while she was out.
Its a horrible thing that happened to her. Being invaded by 6 people , bein tied up and watching ur father be beaten :sad:
I really hope she can or has goten over it and returns to the player she once was

sammy01
Sep 2nd, 2009, 07:32 PM
what he means is she needs perspective, that tennis is a great sport that she lucky to be able to such a high level. that there are many worse off out there that still fight have hope and enjoy life.

chakvetadze is so consumed with how shes playing, the score, what her opponents doing that you feel she just cant let herself even enjoy the battle. shes almost affraid of the battle to win tennis matches because winning means everything so losing is her greatest fear.

she does need to realise that shes a lucky girl and losing a tennis match is not the worst thing in the world.

still not sure id take her to a cancer ward to show this to her.

WowWow
Sep 2nd, 2009, 07:38 PM
That's just fucked up.

Very fucked up!
I can't believe somebody would use dying children as a tool to fix someone's tennis.
I also can't believe people here are laughing about it.

serenus_2k8
Sep 2nd, 2009, 07:41 PM
Would be unfair for the kids..

youizahoe
Sep 2nd, 2009, 07:56 PM
The kids will actually meet someone that's even more depressing than themselves, while she has more things than they'll ever have :o

serenus_2k8
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:12 PM
Sick children aren't a pitiful freak show that you can sit there watching to make yourself feel good about your life not being as bad as theirs. Cant believe how disgusting this really is - and her fans trying to justify it as giving her persepective?! Get a grip - hundreds of people go though horrific things. Serena and Venus dealt with the death of their sister - not just a robbery. Pathetic.

DutchieGirl
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:21 PM
Sick children aren't a pitiful freak show that you can sit there watching to make yourself feel good about your life not being as bad as theirs. Cant believe how disgusting this really is - and her fans trying to justify it as giving her persepective?! Get a grip - hundreds of people go though horrific things. Serena and Venus dealt with the death of their sister - not just a robbery. Pathetic.
Did Serena and Venus see their sister get killed? :tape:

Do you now what happened in the robbery?It's not like they broke in and no one was home...

Otlichno
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:23 PM
Oh Bollettieri and his ways...:rolleyes:
I feel sorry for Chaky now not only is she a nutcase at the moment but imagine when she finds out some guy is trying to persuade her to go see dying children :lol:

FORZA SARITA
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:30 PM
leave alone the dying kids :weirdo:

FORZA SARITA
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:31 PM
Sick children aren't a pitiful freak show that you can sit there watching to make yourself feel good about your life not being as bad as theirs. Cant believe how disgusting this really is - and her fans trying to justify it as giving her persepective?! Get a grip - hundreds of people go though horrific things. Serena and Venus dealt with the death of their sister - not just a robbery. Pathetic.

best post so far :yeah:

WowWow
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:33 PM
Did Serena and Venus see their sister get killed? :tape:


This is pathetic thing to say.

Edinboro
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:36 PM
Taking Anna to see dying children would probably turn her into Andrea Jaeger : The sequel.

SOA_MC
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:39 PM
Most of Bollettieri's players act like they have an illness themselves

tenn_ace
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:39 PM
old fart is losing his mind

Nina.
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:41 PM
Sick children aren't a pitiful freak show that you can sit there watching to make yourself feel good about your life not being as bad as theirs. Cant believe how disgusting this really is - and her fans trying to justify it as giving her persepective?! Get a grip - hundreds of people go though horrific things. Serena and Venus dealt with the death of their sister - not just a robbery. Pathetic.

Exactly.

Do people actually do something like this? Going to watch dying children? If yes, it should definitely be forbidden.

Stamp Paid
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:42 PM
Yes they asked him "if you were her coach what would you do to get her back to her former level" and he said "I would take her to a children's hospital and let her meet children with cancer who have no hope left, and show her she needs to use this second chance she's been given" :speakles:What the hell? lol

The Dawntreader
Sep 2nd, 2009, 08:43 PM
Bad taste for Nick to suggest there's a comparison between a struggling tennis player and children dying. What a fucked up gesture:rolleyes:

There's easier and less crass things to do to inspire a tennis player.

serenus_2k8
Sep 2nd, 2009, 09:06 PM
Did Serena and Venus see their sister get killed? :tape:

Do you now what happened in the robbery?It's not like they broke in and no one was home...

Stupidest post of the year. I never saw 9/11 happen and I've never met an African AIDS orphan - should I not care about either? Chaks robbery is terrible, but its been over a year now, she cant use it as an excuse forever.

That post showed a great deal of stupidity that you should be really ashamed of. What a moron :help:

doni1212
Sep 2nd, 2009, 09:49 PM
That would probably fuck her up even more.

:rolls:

Dodoboy.
Sep 2nd, 2009, 09:59 PM
Unacceptable, Nick :rolleyes:

Serenita
Sep 2nd, 2009, 10:39 PM
pathetic

KournikovaFan91
Sep 3rd, 2009, 12:46 AM
He is probably losing his mind, what age is he....90?

In all seriousness has she seeked proper pyscological help since the trauma. Her game never recovered since it.

young_gunner913
Sep 3rd, 2009, 12:56 AM
Did Serena and Venus see their sister get killed? :tape:

Do you now what happened in the robbery?It's not like they broke in and no one was home...

are you fucking kidding me? that post is so stupid it doesnt deserve the ass ripping response i want to give it but for the sake of not being banned, ill just leave it as youre an ignorant idiot.

KournikovaFan91
Sep 3rd, 2009, 12:59 AM
Chaks robbery is terrible, but its been over a year now, she cant use it as an excuse forever.

Post Traumatic Stress can last years when not properly treated

:rolleyes:

Since I imagine you never had a shotgun in your face you really can't judge what she is going through.

AnomyBC
Sep 3rd, 2009, 02:04 AM
Maybe he should tell her that every time she loses a kid with cancer gives up hope and dies? I'm sure that would help :eek:

Leo_DFP
Sep 3rd, 2009, 02:07 AM
Chakvetadze was never the most stable even before the robbery, and it is obvious that she hasn't been the same on court since. Somehow I don't think taking her to see children with cancer will fix her state of mind.

But at least she knew how to win matches before then. It's like she's completely lost on the court these days.

Still, yeah, I don't see the cancer kids helping.

Albireo
Sep 3rd, 2009, 02:11 AM
Maybe he should tell her that every time she loses a kid with cancer gives up hope and dies? I'm sure that would help :eek:

"Every time you make an unforced error, God kills a kitten."

the cat
Sep 3rd, 2009, 02:19 AM
They should go to an old folks home and ACHAK should leave Nick there
That's harsh GL. :eek: ;) And please remember Nick used to coach your Anna K and he brought her to prominence. ;)

Seriously though Nick was just trying to find a way that could get Anna out that the apparent traumatic state in her life since that near death home invasion robbery she and her family were put through in late 2007. Anna has not been the same since. All Nick wants to do is help Anna realize that there are people worse off than she is right now and that's true. Nick wanting Anna to visit cancer stricken children is very unique and I don't blame anyone for thinking that was a strange suggestion. The fact is Anna was having a great career until the robbery and she's been a less than average WTA player since the robbery nearly 2 years ago. I don't blame Anna for anything because no one could ever be the same again after going through such a personally traumatic experience that millions of people around the world know she went through.

I believe Bollettieri thinks Anna visiting seriously ill children would make her feel empathy for them and also make her realize how lucky she is to be young and healthy and very successful. Nick would never want to say anyhting to make Anna feel worse. He's a coach and a hall of fame coach in my opinion and he sees a one time top 5 player in Chakvetadze going the wrong way in her career for almost 2 years and it pains him and he wants to help her. I think that's where Nick's suggestion came from. In no way was he trying to mock Anna or kids with cancer.

As far as coaching Anna goes Nick would be the perfect coach for her at this time because his enthusiam, support and some would say bluster could help rebuild her broken confidence as a tennis player.

propi
Sep 3rd, 2009, 02:22 AM
said the guy who's one of guilty of the decadence of tennis thanks to his robotic clone tennis system :rolleyes:
He could have been shoe maker or post man instead of tennis guru :rolleyes:

Albireo
Sep 3rd, 2009, 02:45 AM
said the guy who's one of guilty of the decadence of tennis thanks to his robotic clone tennis system :rolleyes:
He could have been shoe maker or post man instead of tennis guru :rolleyes:

Considering how excessive tanning has turned his skin to leather, he could have been a shoe.

/cue Nick Drake

faboozadoo15
Sep 3rd, 2009, 03:25 AM
Serena and Venus dealt with the death of their sister - not just a robbery. Pathetic.

:rolleyes: Who the hell do you think you are? You really have no idea what you're talking about. And what right do you have to quantify and compare difficult times people are going through. Anna was tied up, likely beaten, likely raped, and she watched her father be beaten nearly to death.

I don't think anyone has any right to tell her how to deal or that she should feel better because the Williams sisters got over the death of their half sister.

LoveFifteen
Sep 3rd, 2009, 03:45 AM
This is a bad idea. Most kids will probably tell her that chemotherapy is a lot less painful than watching her 2007 US Open Semi.

youizahoe
Sep 3rd, 2009, 03:47 AM
This is a bad idea. Most kids will probably tell her that chemotherapy is a lot less painful than watching her 2007 US Open Semi.

:spit:

DutchieGirl
Sep 3rd, 2009, 06:42 AM
Stupidest post of the year. I never saw 9/11 happen and I've never met an African AIDS orphan - should I not care about either? Chaks robbery is terrible, but its been over a year now, she cant use it as an excuse forever.

That post showed a great deal of stupidity that you should be really ashamed of. What a moron :help:
No, but how do you know how she is feeling or how Veus & Serena feel? Why did you need to compare the 2 things in the first place? :rolleyes:

tenn_ace
Sep 3rd, 2009, 07:12 AM
Stupidest post of the year. I never saw 9/11 happen and I've never met an African AIDS orphan - should I not care about either? Chaks robbery is terrible, but its been over a year now, she cant use it as an excuse forever.

That post showed a great deal of stupidity that you should be really ashamed of. What a moron :help:

that post was stupid, but yours is not far of. :rolleyes:

Vanity Bonfire
Sep 3rd, 2009, 09:08 AM
Why can't he just teach her to shriek really, really loudly like he does with all of his other female students?

rockstar
Sep 3rd, 2009, 10:02 AM
no doubt the motive is wrong, but most of you are acting like anna is some pedophilic rapist, and visiting the kids would kill them :o

i'm sure they would get to benefit from the visit as well

doujyr
Sep 3rd, 2009, 10:47 AM
holy **** no wonder so many bolletieri players are psycho nutcases!

Dodoboy.
Sep 3rd, 2009, 10:55 AM
Was the robbery that bad? :speakles: Raped?

saniapower
Sep 3rd, 2009, 11:10 AM
But at least she knew how to win matches before then. It's like she's completely lost on the court these days.

Still, yeah, I don't see the cancer kids helping.
Ridiculos!
Yeah she knew how to win against Sania who got double bageled yesterday by Pennetta. Both(Chaky and Sania) are now at their appropriate place(below #70)
Just feel sorry for the poor children.

serenus_2k8
Sep 3rd, 2009, 03:52 PM
No, but how do you know how she is feeling or how Veus & Serena feel? Why did you need to compare the 2 things in the first place? :rolleyes:

Because they're both tennis players and so its perfectly acceptable to compare the two cases.

that post was stupid, but yours is not far of. :rolleyes:

In which way? :rolleyes:

:rolleyes: Who the hell do you think you are? You really have no idea what you're talking about. And what right do you have to quantify and compare difficult times people are going through. Anna was tied up, likely beaten, likely raped, and she watched her father be beaten nearly to death.

I don't think anyone has any right to tell her how to deal or that she should feel better because the Williams sisters got over the death of their half sister.

I really have every idea what I'm talking about. Likely raped? Now who doesnt know what theyre talking about. :tape: I can see you would really make an excellent judge. As I said, Anna's ordeal was terrible, but she has more than enough money to sort out some councelling. She should do what Serena did and seek some help rather than blaming her crap form on a bad event that happened ages ago :rolleyes: You mugs act like she served in the war or something. Why doesnt she do some charity work and take some time out rather than gawping at dying kids as some sort of sick pick-me-up.


Post Traumatic Stress can last years when not properly treated

:rolleyes:

Since I imagine you never had a shotgun in your face you really can't judge what she is going through.

They had a shotgun to her face? Where is the article that states that? Ive had family members held at knife point, beaten up and robbed - a lot more sentimental items than Anna will have had stolen, I can guarantee it, but they got over it and got on with their lives, like people should.

I cant believe how soft some of you are. I cant imagine how our ancestors would have got through things like WWI and II with these pathetic mentallities :tape:

Galsen
Sep 3rd, 2009, 04:03 PM
:rolleyes: Who the hell do you think you are? You really have no idea what you're talking about. And what right do you have to quantify and compare difficult times people are going through. Anna was tied up, likely beaten, likely raped, and she watched her father be beaten nearly to death.

I don't think anyone has any right to tell her how to deal or that she should feel better because the Williams sisters got over the death of their half sister.

THEIR SISTER!!

tennisbear7
Sep 3rd, 2009, 04:11 PM
What a stupid idea, Nick Bollettieri. Please retire. :tape::tape:

Because they're both tennis players and so its perfectly acceptable to compare the two cases. :tape::tape::help::help::help:

Stupidity really knows no limits.


I really have every idea what I'm talking about. Likely raped? Now who doesnt know what theyre talking about. :tape: I can see you would really make an excellent judge. As I said, Anna's ordeal was terrible, but she has more than enough money to sort out some councelling. She should do what Serena did and seek some help rather than blaming her crap form on a bad event that happened ages ago :rolleyes: You mugs act like she served in the war or something. Why doesnt she do some charity work and take some time out rather than gawping at dying kids as some sort of sick pick-me-up.

Looks like we need to get you to a psychiatric ward, because I can tell you that not everyone can just recover with traumatic life events with the click of a finger. Please grow a brain. Why do you think people still commit suicide and mutilate their bodies if all cases of mental trauma if it was as easy as sorting "out some counselling"?

It's great that Serena and Venus were able to pull themselves together from the death of their sister, but not everyone is able to do that - much less if the unfortunate event happened to themselves.


They had a shotgun to her face? Where is the article that states that? Ive had family members held at knife point, beaten up and robbed - a lot more sentimental items than Anna will have had stolen, I can guarantee it, but they got over it and got on with their lives, like people should.

It's all very well and easy to say "my relative got over this" and "my relative is now fine" but have you gone through what Anna has? Each situation is different, as are our reactions to them - so for you to sit back there on your high horse and tell Anna that what she went through was a long time ago, and that she should have gotten over it by now, is cruel and arrogant, especially since you do not know what sort of scarring she still has from the event.


I cant believe how soft some of you are. I cant imagine how our ancestors would have got through things like WWI and II with these pathetic mentallities :tape:

Have you heard of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder? Many war veterans suffered from it. :rolleyes: Are they weak? Should they just get over it? Don't you dare say that they have pathetic mentalities.

serenus_2k8
Sep 3rd, 2009, 04:20 PM
:tape::tape::help::help::help:

Stupidity really knows no limits.



Looks like we need to get you to a psychiatric ward, because I can tell you that not everyone can just recover with traumatic life events with the click of a finger. Please grow a brain. Why do you think people still commit suicide and mutilate their bodies if all cases of mental trauma if it was as easy as sorting "out some counselling"?

It's great that Serena and Venus were able to pull themselves together from the death of their sister, but not everyone is able to do that - much less if the unfortunate event happened to themselves.


It's all very well and easy to say "my relative got over this" and "my relative is now fine" but have you gone through what Anna has? Each situation is different, as are our reactions to them - so for you to sit back there on your high horse and tell Anna that what she went through was a long time ago, and that she should have gotten over it by now, is cruel and arrogant, especially since you do not know what sort of scarring she still has from the event.


Have you heard of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder? Many war veterans suffered from it. :rolleyes: Are they weak? Should they just get over it? Don't you dare say that they have pathetic mentalities.


It isnt stupid at all. As tennis players both have similar lifestyles, commitments and pressures. When Serena suffered a much bigger trauma than Anna, she took the time out to spend time with her family, come to terms with the loss and then return when she felt mentally prepared. Anna hasnt done any of that. Of course its not as easy as a bit of counselling (congrats on your awesome spelling :weirdo:) but to say a problem is ruining your whole career and yet not seek any help or do anything to resolve the problem is completely crazy.

Really, stupidity clearly does know no limits, since YOU are the one comparing a war veteran to somebody who had their house burgaled!! Months on end in sub standard conditions, your life constantly in danger while watching people die all around you is NOT the same as having somebody break into your house. I suggest you wrap yourself in cotton wool and stay in your bed, because the real world isnt always fun - and it isnt always safe but thats life.

Dave.
Sep 3rd, 2009, 04:53 PM
Serenus, (how) do you know that Anna has or has not received counselling or taken measures to resolve the problem?

Different people react to different events like this in different ways. There's really no room to compare them at all. The WS case is totally different to Anna's. It's insensitive to try and compare them or put them on a measuring scale for which one was more traumatic. Just because the WS have seemingly recovered from the death of their sister (at least on the outside/tennis career, I don't think anyone knows what they still might go through on the inside) does not mean Anna should recover from a robbery. Anyway, she's still playing and has had some (few) good moments in her career since then so she has recovered from it in a sense, but clearly there was a huge loss of confidence and her tennis has not been the same.

What Nick Bollettieri said is just fucked up, pure and simple.

serenus_2k8
Sep 3rd, 2009, 05:05 PM
I daresay I am wrongly directing my disgust towards Anna here, but I havent seen or heard anything to suggest she is trying to rectify the situation - though I respect her privacy in that regard. Its never nice to see a young woman struggling - Ana, Amelie, Anna - even Dinara. I hope that if this problem is due to her mental difficulties that she gets the support she needs to deal with them :hug: