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DefyingGravity
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:50 AM
Bad bad bad match. This was the worst I've seen since Karatantcheva loss at RG

young_gunner913
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:51 AM
what an ugly ass match but Venus fights and gets through!!!

COME ON VENUS!! :rocker2:

Donny
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:51 AM
I expect a bagel next round.

In The Zone
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:51 AM
:lol:

Praise Jesus! Thankfully you deleted your jinx thread.

A win is a win. Hopefully a scare like this will scare away the rust! I am hoping this opens up the Venus steamroll machine. Come on, Venus, shake it off!

Rest that knee.

SAEKeithSerena
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:52 AM
what a mess.

VeeReeDavJCap81
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:52 AM
Bad bad bad match. This was the worst I've seen since Karatantcheva loss at RG

No because Venus won this one ;)

tdot.
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:52 AM
Venus :tape:

AkademiQ
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:52 AM
Vera... so close :tears:

Ryan
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:52 AM
Uh, the last two sets were pretty good. I loved this match, tons of great points. :cool:

F-R-E-A-K
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:52 AM
Really bad from Venus :o
Congrats Vee! :kiss:


:sad: Bad luck Vera :hug: Nice try. :kiss:

mdterp01
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:52 AM
Rest the knee and take confidence from this match!!!! FighterVenus showed up tonight!!

Ziggy Starduck
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:52 AM
:hug: Venus fans, she got up!

supergrunt
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:53 AM
dear venus,
thank you for shutting mary carillo (who happens to be more of a sexist than john mcenroe) the f*ck up! what a great match and a great fight from venus! if she fights like that she can win this thing!

DefyingGravity
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:53 AM
:lol:

Praise Jesus! Thankfully you deleted your jinx thread.

A win is a win. Hopefully a scare like this will scare away the rust! I am hoping this opens up the Venus steamroll machine. Come on, Venus, shake it off!

Rest that knee.

SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Phew!!! I seriously clicked the button 2 mm too early.

Cakeisgood
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:53 AM
3rd set was actually pretty high quality.

Pick it up next round Vee :)

Miss Amor
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:53 AM
Its matches like these, that toughen the great champions :worship: Wimbledon 2007 First round anyone?

So happy :woohoo:

I thought the match was good quality, especially the last two sets. Great drama :yeah:

TheBoiledEgg
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:53 AM
Bepa :( :sad: so close but yet so far

Jarl_02
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:53 AM
I really wanted Dushevina to win this....

jefrilibra
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:53 AM
I cant believe she pulled thru. I thought she was going to give up after the 1st set.

Rest that knee Venus.

SharapovaFTW
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:53 AM
The match wasn't that bad. Dushevina should've clearly won this match, but she let the nerves sneak in there. Venus wasn't herself, but lets give credit where credit is due. Dushevina came to play and she pushed Ms. Williams. If she had any kind of forehand she would be a player to reckon with on a consistent basis.

Mikey.
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:53 AM
Poor lil Vera :sad:

Nicolás89
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:54 AM
Venus. :rolleyes: But I thought Dushevina played very well specially on the return and specially on the backhand, so congrats to her, on a side note Venus looked so desperate without her first serve, I never really realized how important her serve actually is in her game.

2Black
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:55 AM
O where O where has Venus' confidence gone???

Golovinjured.
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:55 AM
I enjoyed it. :shrug:


Dushevina played so well. Her backhand was great, when she came to the net she was solid, she also changes the direction of the ball really, really well. This was enough until 7-6 5-4 and then Venus turned it ON. Dushevina didn't choke. Venus was barely missing out there until 7-6 5-7 0-4 and then things mellowed out a bit but Venus had too big a lead. Venus should have made things easier for herself and went to the forehand a lot more.



Vera D :hug: Should be very proud.

Venus :yeah: Hope the knee is okay. :unsure:

moby
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:55 AM
That was truly awful. Other than that 7 game streak from the end of the 2nd set to the middle of the third, Venus was deplorable. Losing a set to Vera D (and coming a game from elimination) at your most consistent Slam is a new low.

Venus always looks so rushed. She doesn't take the ball early enough, and consequently is always pushed back by the most innocuous of shots.

xr6turbo
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:55 AM
Just looking at the pictures.. Venus is wearing Nike shoes :lol:

Miss Amor
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:56 AM
The match wasn't that bad. Dushevina should've clearly won this match, but she let the nerves sneak in there. Venus wasn't herself, but lets give credit where credit is due. Dushevina came to play and she pushed Ms. Williams. If she had any kind of forehand she would be a player to reckon with on a consistent basis.

Keep on telling that to yourself.

nfl46
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:57 AM
A Win is a Win! On to the next round! Round 1 is over and done...lets move on people!

Let's GO VENUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:bounce::bounce::bou nce::bounce:

AJZ.
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:57 AM
Super :hearts:

Huntress55
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:57 AM
Blah :( Was hoping Dushevina would win this, and it looked like she was going to. But Venus just stepped it up from the end of the second set to the end. Congrats Venus.

spiritedenergy
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:58 AM
apart from some wild errors it was a good match, full of drama... stupid Carillo was complining that Roddick was late:help:

DefyingGravity
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:58 AM
That was truly awful. Other than that 7 game streak from the end of the 2nd set to the middle of the third, Venus was deplorable. Losing a set to Vera D (and coming a game from elimination) at your best Slam is a new low.

Venus always looks so rushed. She doesn't take the ball early enough, and consequently is always pushed back by the most innocuous of shots.

SINCE WHEN WAS THE U.S. OPEN VENUS'S BEST SLAM?

DO FIVE WIMBLEDON TITLES MEAN NOTHING TO YOU?!!!!!!!

LindsayRulz
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:58 AM
Vera, so close to cause a major upset. :awww::hug:

Venus :yeah:

Njay16
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:58 AM
Venus :cool: I like when she has these type of matches occasionally. She has the fighter mentality, maybe not quite as fierce as Serena, but it's there. She knew the occassion and new what she had to do to turn it around. More controlled agression, definitely had some nice tactics. If she didn't have as good as serve as she does, I'm not sure she would have made it out alive. One thing that baffled me is why didnt she find the Dushevina FH!? :confused::confused: The difference between the Dushevina forehand and backhand is like the difference between Venus at Roland Garros and Venus at Wimbledon. And when did Venus get the Rena stare down?:lol:

Zweli
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:58 AM
Thankyou Vee,a win is a win
Thanks for depriving sports writers the head lines
Play better next match

SharapovaFTW
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:59 AM
Keep on telling that to yourself.

That's the god honest truth. She played better than Venus for 70% of that match anyone should admit to that, but at the same time Venus is a fighter... which is the difference between the top players and the not to players. I'm giving credit to both sides of the net. Let's not be an asshole OK?

friendsita
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:59 AM
omg V!

moby
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:59 AM
SINCE WHEN WAS THE U.S. OPEN VENUS'S BEST SLAM?

DO FIVE WIMBLEDON TITLES MEAN NOTHING TO YOU?!!!!!!!Most consistent Slam, I meant. I'll go back to change it.

lizchris
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:59 AM
Venus played a bad set and a half. She picked it up considerably when it was 5 all.

I don't know what the rest of you were watching. Maybe you were watching Family Guy or something.

BTW, we will know how bad the knee if she and Serena pull out of doubles. If they do, then that is a bad sign. If not (like I suspect they won't), then it isn't as bad as it seems.

Slutiana
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:59 AM
You got to hand it to Douchediva, the girl has BALLS. Standing plop on the baseline for the fastest first serve in womens' tennis? And it was so effective, her reflexes were GREAT. And her backhand is good too (her FH is still the fugliest shot ever, though).

As for Venus, the knee was clearly bothering her, and so she couldn't move properly and all those footfaults :lol::help: but you know she's a champion and she fought and dug deep and as she started to play better and the adrenaline got going, she forgot about it and from like 4-5 to 4-0 she was literally unplayable. But she just needs to rest up that knee majorly because its been f'ed up since wimbledon which isn't good. :( GO Penus!

V's a star
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:00 AM
Thank god she atleast pulled through. the rest of the tournament though, isnt looking to great with that knee :sobbing:

starin
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:00 AM
That was truly awful. Other than that 7 game streak from the end of the 2nd set to the middle of the third, Venus was deplorable. Losing a set to Vera D (and coming a game from elimination) at your most consistent Slam is a new low.

i agree.
I don't understand Venus game plan out there. Vera's forehand is a hot mess. And on top of that she moves very poorly to that side and half the time when she hits a forehand it lands like a foot inside the service line. Unless the injury is a brain injury I don't understand her tactics at all.

Good for Venus to win but her prospects at the USO look bad at best. Reminds me of her play a RG.

HRHoliviasmith
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:01 AM
congrats to Venus. I'm glad she won since the crowd really wasn't behind her* per usual.




*didn't actually see the match but read this from reputable TF sources.

V-MAC
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:02 AM
I can breathe at last:lol: That was frustrating as hell to watch as a Vee fan but we should be well used to the drama now:o Hopefully Vee's knee won't get any worse and those footfaults will stop. I am just so relieved she is through to the next round. Well done Vee:bounce:

moby
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:02 AM
I must admit that I was kind of disappointed. I decided to give the cinema a miss after Venus lost the first set, but Vera wasn't able to finish the job. :( And Venus would lift her game at the brink of defeat. Sheesh.

It could have been the most stunning upset of the year.

mdterp01
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:03 AM
A win is a win and the haters denied :wavey: But Venus...do you know what a slice is?!! Try mixing it up every now and then. But keep coming forward!!!

Miranda
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:03 AM
:bounce::bounce:

Infiniti2001
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:03 AM
http://i27.tinypic.com/abpngg.jpg

At the end of the day a win is a win. I fucking love you Venus :hearts: Haters will continue to hate .Keep on keeping :p

Serenita
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:04 AM
:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

youizahoe
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:04 AM
bad bad bad match? I think we saw some really nice winners, and I think they certainly minimized the +75 errors.

Direwolf
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:04 AM
it was a very enjoyable match!!!...
the first set was bad...
then turned good...
then footfault turned bad...

4-5 2nd to 4-0 3rdset was Venus best serving in a while...
especially 6-5 2nd set... it was like 2-3 aces/service winners

i kinda gave up on her when she lost the first set tiebreaker...
but...somehow i managed to watch it...
and wow... she fought real hard out there, she didnt give up...

guess what...
she actually had tactics out there!!

zxcVbnm88
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:05 AM
the 1st set was ugly. but Vee won 7 games in a row from 6-7 4-5 to 4-0 in the 3rd

youizahoe
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:06 AM
Venus played a bad set and a half. She picked it up considerably when it was 5 all.

I don't know what the rest of you were watching. Maybe you were watching Family Guy or something.

BTW, we will know how bad the knee if she and Serena pull out of doubles. If they do, then that is a bad sign. If not (like I suspect they won't), then it isn't as bad as it seems.

I think it's more prevention, but at times you could notice that she spared her knee by putting more weight on the other leg (when she stops running, she pushed more weight on her good knee than her bad knee).

Dexter
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:06 AM
Venus must've been dreadful to be take to 3 sets by Dushevina. :tape:

KoOlMaNsEaN
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:06 AM
oogly tennis all around.
Question now is will Venus' knee hold up for 6 matches

Illusionist
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:06 AM
Vera again loses in 1st round against a top player who's far from best. Not having weapons strong enough is the reason she lost.
Thumbs up for Venus for giving a good fight.

Golovinjured.
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:08 AM
Why is every saying it was awful? There were some really great rallies, great winners, drama. Venus was shitty to start with, but the last two sets were good stuff.

A win is a win and the haters denied :wavey: But Venus...do you know what a slice is?!! Try mixing it up every now and then. But keep coming forward!!!

http://i27.tinypic.com/abpngg.jpg

At the end of the day a win is a win. I fucking love you Venus :hearts: Haters will continue to hate .Keep on keeping :p

Where are these haters?




Also, are you kidding about the slice? :unsure:

iheartjelenaj
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:08 AM
Yea! Venus!! :bounce:

I stopped watching early in the 2nd set. Was so upset that Venus lost the tie-break. Then later on, started watching again and saw on the TV screen that Venus was up 4-0. From there I knew she would win.

On to the next round!

Infiniti2001
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:08 AM
I must admit that I was kind of disappointed. I decided to give the cinema a miss after Venus lost the first set, but Vera wasn't able to finish the job. :( And Venus would lift her game at the brink of defeat. Sheesh.

It could have been the most stunning upset of the year.

BLAH!!!! GO Venus :dance: I love when you make your naysayers miserable :lol:

hankqq
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:10 AM
Venus did well considering her knee is hurting :shrug: If your knee hurts, it's hard to run, serve, set up for your shots...I'd cut her some slack on all the errors tonight :shrug: I'm just happy she didn't lose 1st rd! :lol: :p

Roookie
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:10 AM
Vesnina has guts!...
Nice save Venus...that dress is the worst piece of sh*t i've even seen :lol: but i'm glad she won.

mdterp01
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:10 AM
BLAH!!!! GO Venus :dance: I love when you make your naysayers miserable :lol:

Me too and you know they were ready to pounce tonight!! :lol:

SharapovaFTW
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:11 AM
Why is every saying it was awful? There were some really great rallies, great winners, drama. Venus was shitty to start with, but the last two sets were good stuff.





Where are these haters?




Also, are you kidding about the slice? :unsure:

These idiots define haters as people who weren't rooting for Venus. I didn't know that was a HATER!

Infiniti2001
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:11 AM
Me too and you know they were ready to pounce tonight!! :lol:

I mean , missing the movies to watch her lose has got to be a new low :rolls:

-VSR-
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:12 AM
Vee! :)

ZODIAC
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:12 AM
A win is a win rest up Vee this could be a turning point to your season at this event.I remember when she struggled at Wimbledon 07 and won the event.
I love you Vee!!!:bounce::bounce::bounce:

Golovinjured.
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:13 AM
BLAH!!!! GO Venus :dance: I love when you make your naysayers miserable :lol:

Me too and you know they were ready to pounce tonight!! :lol:

You guys are trippin' :weirdo:

maddogz48
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:14 AM
Good to see Venus get through this one, Dushevina came close but Venus found another gear at 4-5 in the second to 0-4 in the third. :)

Volcana
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:14 AM
It was a chaos of a match, but VERY entertaining. Venus had a chance to win in straight sets. Vera had a chance to win straight sets. The quality of the third set was high. That match was like a summer blockbuster, acton adventure film. Maybe the writing wasn't the best, but the chase scenes were great, the stars were hot, and the last hour was VERY entetaining. Helluva lot better than 'Transformers' or the last 'Terminator' movie. Even better than 'Doomsday', except that Rhona Mitra is so fucking hot they had to design special cameras to film that movie.

Direwolf
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:16 AM
Veras fh isnt that bad...
but her backhand is better than Venus now i think...

ElusiveChanteuse
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:16 AM
Grats Vee.:)
Vera D.:hug:

Caillou
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:18 AM
The one thing I liked tonight about venus was her fight and her mental game. So close to being an upset, not playing her best, facing an opponent playing well. I was nervous throughout, but she pulled through and gave everyone an enjoyable match. PPl that say otherwise are just being haters, it was full of drama and high quality points.

HowardH
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:20 AM
Vera :hug:. That was a good effort.

GoldenGophers
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:29 AM
She is just working her way into the tournament like usual.

mdterp01
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:30 AM
These idiots define haters as people who weren't rooting for Venus. I didn't know that was a HATER!

Actually you defined what a hater was to you!! You didn't ask for my definition of it and its not what you said. So since you were referencing me, try asking me what my definition of it is before putting words into my mouth. Kthanksbye :wavey:

Pasta-Na
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:33 AM
venus :scared:

skanky~skanketta
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:37 AM
Her 2nd serve points won in the first 2 sets were ATROCIOUS! Truly ghastly! Thank God she made it through! I was shitting bricks.

jt1520
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:38 AM
To be positive, I actually didn't think she played that badly tonight. Yes, yes, it wasn't perfect by any means (way too many errors). However, I'm giving Dushevina the credit for many of those errors. Her returning of serve was outstanding I thought and she didn't give Venus many short balls at points during the match that forced some of those errors. Of course, everyone expects so much more out of the top players and for good reasons. However, some nights you just don't quite have it, and when you can still come through and win the match, any sort of way, that is a positive thing not negative! It's all about the wins isn't it? Just my take.

darrinbaker00
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:40 AM
To be positive, I actually didn't think she played that badly tonight. Yes, yes, it wasn't perfect by any means (way too many errors). However, I'm giving Dushevina the credit for many of those errors. Her returning of serve was outstanding I thought and she didn't give Venus many short balls at points during the match that forced some of those errors. Of course, everyone expects so much more out of the top players and for good reasons. However, some nights you just don't quite have it, and when you can still come through and win the match, any sort of way, that is a positive thing not negative! It's all about the wins isn't it? Just my take.
They're called unforced errors for a reason.

trufanjay
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:56 AM
is it just me or does Venus have one of the best forehands down the line???.....when she's not making errors

darrinbaker00
Sep 1st, 2009, 05:01 AM
is it just me or does Venus have one of the best forehands down the line???.....when she's not making errors
That's like saying Sharapova has one of the best serves in women's tennis.....when she's not double-faulting. ;)

trufanjay
Sep 1st, 2009, 05:03 AM
That's like saying Sharapova has one of the best serves in women's tennis.....when she's not double-faulting. ;)
yes, that would be the same thing.......

FERLKE
Sep 1st, 2009, 05:08 AM
good match :D

Dushevina improved a lot :eek:

winone23
Sep 1st, 2009, 05:09 AM
great fight, Venus.

Brooks.
Sep 1st, 2009, 05:27 AM
Dushevina is the most boring, useless player. :tape:

Congrats to Venus. She really fought hard, despite having no game for most of the night.

gmokb
Sep 1st, 2009, 05:40 AM
I miissed the game and the drama but props to Vee. I don't care how she won as long as she does. I just hope her knee is okay, guess she will not be in the doubles.

P_Fer
Sep 1st, 2009, 05:55 AM
Nice try Vera :sad: Good effort

Vee :yeah:

darkangel23
Sep 1st, 2009, 06:14 AM
Vera :hug:

RFSTB
Sep 1st, 2009, 06:17 AM
I lost count how many times I watch a Venus match and start yelling "you suck Venus!" and then, invariably, she comes back and wins the match. :lol:

Good fight Venus. Even though you made it harder than it should've been.

Hopefully this got the butterflies out of her stomach.

What was Mary Carillo going on about how they shouldn't schedule a women's match at night before the men's? Nice way to show respect for Venus! She assumed that people turned up to watch Roddick and had to wait for Venus' match to be over. How does she know they weren't there to watch Venus? Then she said Venus' match was of poor quality(giving zero credit to Dushevina), and that there won't be many left to watch the "high quality" Roddick match later on(which she assumed would be), which ended up in lopsided straight sets 61 64 62. Definitely some of her more idiotic comments!:rolleyes:

I'm glad Pam Shriver pointed out that the Hewitt/whatshisname match at the AO lasted til' 4am and people still stayed, that if it's high quality people will stay, which was totally true. Shuddup Mary!

KoOlMaNsEaN
Sep 1st, 2009, 06:21 AM
Mary can be funny but she definitely annoyed me tonight,she just wouldnt shutup about it, RFSTB

Stamp Paid
Sep 1st, 2009, 06:22 AM
:lol::lol::lol:

RFSTB
Sep 1st, 2009, 06:23 AM
Yeah I normally like Mary's sense of humor but someone must've pissed in her cereal this morning...:lol:

Josh.
Sep 1st, 2009, 06:25 AM
Vera. :hug: Take the postives out of this but do try and get some mental strength.

PLP
Sep 1st, 2009, 06:49 AM
Vera is a good player, I AM relieved Venus pulled it out.
:eek:

trivfun
Sep 1st, 2009, 07:14 AM
I hear the advice from her coaches and commentators. They talk about attacking the weakness of her opponent. The thing about Venus is she like to attack the opponent's strength. She figure if she breaks that down, the match is hers. I agree with that strategy but she to postion herself to dictate her own tempo instead of reacting to the players shots and serve. Its like what Bill Russell said about his blocked shots "the best ones are the ones you don't make but instill the fear that you can block it on every play."

Temperenka
Sep 1st, 2009, 07:43 AM
I left when Vera was up 7-6, 3-1... I thought she would win.

But... Venus :worship: Way to fight through.

I have seen Vera play before, but she was even more impressive tonight.. she plays safe tennis without pushing, which I like.

Venus... you need to step it up though, or you will be gone really quickly.

I honestly don't see her making it through Clijsters-Azarenka-Serena with this form. Pretty pitiful.

Rest the knee.

Kim's_fan_4ever
Sep 1st, 2009, 08:19 AM
What a score...and it's against Dushevina :lol::tape:

SVK
Sep 1st, 2009, 08:23 AM
Great fight for nothing:(:sad:

Renalicious
Sep 1st, 2009, 08:54 AM
Vee played so bad. :tape:

davidmario
Sep 1st, 2009, 08:59 AM
eurosport commentator said it was the best match of the day (including men's matches)
I predicted in the other thread that dushevina will be tough. so it was. but not tough enoug for injured V:rocker:

btw it was not good to see her take a painkiller at 3-2 in the first set:sad:

Sam L
Sep 1st, 2009, 09:01 AM
Venus. :( This should've been like 6-1 6-3.

Ben.
Sep 1st, 2009, 09:21 AM
WD Venus :yeah: need to clean up your game as you progress. Hopefully that knee isn't too serious.

Joe.
Sep 1st, 2009, 10:24 AM
vera :hug:

~Eclipsed~
Sep 1st, 2009, 10:37 AM
Pheww, just so happy that Vee found a way through. Please clean it up for the rest of the tourney and rest that knee. :D

volta
Sep 1st, 2009, 10:38 AM
Uh, the last two sets were pretty good. I loved this match, tons of great points. :cool:

agreed.

a win is a win :bounce: Venus rest that knee :hug:

Dodoboy.
Sep 1st, 2009, 10:45 AM
Probably the best match of the day :yeah:

Some great rally, so many shitters from Vee to discuss, she was a MESS out there to sum it up - but glad she could hold off Spirited Vera who looked better than her for most of the match!

I really don't know what to expect now for the rest of the fortnight! :unsure: But hope she can rest that knee and play herself into the tournament, glad she is WINNING these matches early on, her last duds in finals have been because she didn't get enough of this. But not QUITE this dramatic next time Venus :help:

The match was so good, and Venus so frustrating no attention is being given to that dress :tape:

Mary Carillo :banghead: What a slag!

DOUBLEFIST
Sep 1st, 2009, 10:50 AM
Sorry, but I find this to be VERY disappointing from Venus.

Daniel
Sep 1st, 2009, 11:00 AM
Vera :hug: :smooch:

Golovinjured.
Sep 1st, 2009, 11:05 AM
Match of the day for me, for sure.

Granted I only saw Hantuchova-Shaughnessy, Dokic-Flipkens and this one. But of those, match of the day. :D

Wilson_07
Sep 1st, 2009, 11:14 AM
That's the god honest truth. She played better than Venus for 70% of that match anyone should admit to that, but at the same time Venus is a fighter... which is the difference between the top players and the not to players. I'm giving credit to both sides of the net. Let's not be an asshole OK?

let's say dushevina played great and played more consitently ;), because it was venus who made the more spectacular winners out there. she just made over 50 errors too, which was the bad thing about her game.
both women moved very well and i think except for the wild and ridiculous errors venus made, it was great quality :yeah:

Miss Amor
Sep 1st, 2009, 11:20 AM
That's the god honest truth. She played better than Venus for 70% of that match anyone should admit to that, but at the same time Venus is a fighter... which is the difference between the top players and the not to players. I'm giving credit to both sides of the net. Let's not be an asshole OK?

Yeah Vera played better for 70% of the match than Venus, and thats why she won 2 of the 3 sets....oh wait SHE DIDNT! :rolleyes:

Golovinjured.
Sep 1st, 2009, 11:21 AM
let's say dushevina played great and played more consitently ;), because it was venus who made the more spectacular winners out there. she just made over 50 errors too, which was the bad thing about her game.
both women moved very well and i think except for the wild and ridiculous errors venus made, it was great quality :yeah:

I think Vera D lost the plot for the first few games of the third aswell. The consistency in her groundstrokes wasn't there like it was first two sets. But, part of that was from losing the second, and part from Venus turning it up a notch. She regrouped soon enough, though.

Wilson_07
Sep 1st, 2009, 11:29 AM
They're called unforced errors for a reason.

this forced- unforced error-decisions aren't a really reliable thing anyways. sometimes you can't really decide if it was forced or not. if you play like venus does, with so much risk and aggression in your shots and someone is bringing everything back with good lenght or places the returns well, it's only logical that you make an error at some point :shrug: maybe you can say then that she should change the pace to avoid them, but often that's just not her mentality.
i think such errors after long rallies aren't as bad as some people say they are.

LightWarrior
Sep 1st, 2009, 12:10 PM
I just watched the fianl set and I thought Venus was playing good.
I read her post-match interview and I was wondering why she's still making a bigdeal of not talking about her lingering knee injury

Dodoboy.
Sep 1st, 2009, 12:28 PM
We have to ask Richard to know the true state of Venus!

Slutiana
Sep 1st, 2009, 12:40 PM
i agree.
I don't understand Venus game plan out there. Vera's forehand is a hot mess. And on top of that she moves very poorly to that side and half the time when she hits a forehand it lands like a foot inside the service line. Unless the injury is a brain injury I don't understand her tactics at all.

Good for Venus to win but her prospects at the USO look bad at best. Reminds me of her play a RG.
:rolleyes: You're sucha band Venus fan.
congrats to Venus. I'm glad she won since the crowd really wasn't behind her* per usual.




*didn't actually see the match but read this from reputable TF sources.
They were. :lol:
Venus must've been dreadful to be take to 3 sets by Dushevina. :tape:
She was injured. :sad:
Probably the best match of the day :yeah:

Some great rally, so many shitters from Vee to discuss, she was a MESS out there to sum it up - but glad she could hold off Spirited Vera who looked better than her for most of the match!

I really don't know what to expect now for the rest of the fortnight! :unsure: But hope she can rest that knee and play herself into the tournament, glad she is WINNING these matches early on, her last duds in finals have been because she didn't get enough of this. But not QUITE this dramatic next time Venus :help:

The match was so good, and Venus so frustrating no attention is being given to that dress :tape:

Mary Carillo :banghead: What a slag!

Sorry, but I find this to be VERY disappointing from Venus.

She was injured. :sad: And Dushevina played really well. I still can't get around the way she was returning Venus' serve, not even SERENA can stand on the baseline to return Venus' first serve, her reflexes were so quick and she got so many back it was amazing. :eek: But Venus is more than amazing and she managed to fight through, I just hope the knee is ok.

Vanity Bonfire
Sep 1st, 2009, 12:59 PM
She won't make it to the second week, I don't think.

volta
Sep 1st, 2009, 12:59 PM
I just watched the fianl set and I thought Venus was playing good.
I read her post-match interview and I was wondering why she's still making a bigdeal of not talking about her lingering knee injury

she doesn't like to talk about her injuries, usually we get the news from Richard because Venus does not talk about them and when a reporter brings it up she brushes it aside like as if it's nothing. I guess that she doesn't want to show vulnerability , after all this is a tournament and lots of players/coaches are scouting around.

i think i've never seen Dushevina play as good as she did yesterday , granted i didn't see alot of her matches but i was wow at her yesterday

is1531
Sep 1st, 2009, 01:14 PM
A win is a win and the haters denied :wavey: But Venus...do you know what a slice is?!! Try mixing it up every now and then. But keep coming forward!!!

I think your complete liar saying the haters denied. It's a few of the Venus fans who denied Dushevina the credit. Open your eyes,young blood. :cool:

Jane Lane
Sep 1st, 2009, 01:21 PM
Oh Vera..so close.
:hug:

is1531
Sep 1st, 2009, 01:21 PM
Venus did well considering her knee is hurting :shrug: If your knee hurts, it's hard to run, serve, set up for your shots...I'd cut her some slack on all the errors tonight :shrug: I'm just happy she didn't lose 1st rd! :lol: :p

If her knee was bothering her, where was the limp and why was she running so fast on every play? Men can be suckered into anything. Dushevina gave her a battle but the difference in serving was Dushevina's loss. Dushevina was ahead 5-4 in the 2nd set serving for the match, but did not have the tools to close out the match. :)

Golovinjured.
Sep 1st, 2009, 01:26 PM
Yeah, I don't think the knee bothered her THAT much. You could notice it a little on the serve, but her movement around court seemed normal. :shrug:

Miss Amor
Sep 1st, 2009, 01:26 PM
If her knee was bothering her, where was the limp and why was she running so fast on every play? Men can be suckered into anything. Dushevina gave her a battle but the difference in serving was Dushevina's loss. Dushevina was ahead 5-4 in the 2nd set serving for the match, but did not have the tools to close out the match. :)

You are delusional; Dushevina never served for the match. She served for the first set at 5-4.

In the second set Dush held to make it 5-4, then vee held to make it 5-5, then she broke vee to make 5-6 and then she held with 4 great serves to make it 5-7. Dush never served for the match.

SU
Sep 1st, 2009, 01:26 PM
If her knee was bothering her, where was the limp and why was she running so fast on every play? Men can be suckered into anything. Dushevina gave her a battle but the difference in serving was Dushevina's loss. Dushevina was ahead 5-4 in the 2nd set serving for the match, but did not have the tools to close out the match. :)

are you dreaming? she did not serve for the match

is1531
Sep 1st, 2009, 01:28 PM
Dushevina is the most boring, useless player. :tape:

Congrats to Venus. She really fought hard, despite having no game for most of the night.

What a horrible inhuman thing to say. Men are a complete disgrace with their arrogance. Vera put up a great fight in spite of your lies. :cool:

Miss Amor
Sep 1st, 2009, 01:29 PM
What a horrible inhuman thing to say. Men are a complete disgrace with their arrogance. Vera put up a great fight in spite of your lies. :cool:

Menstrual cramps?

Golovinjured.
Sep 1st, 2009, 01:32 PM
What a horrible inhuman thing to say. Men are a complete disgrace with their arrogance. Vera put up a great fight in spite of your lies. :cool:

We're sorry. :whiteflag:

LightWarrior
Sep 1st, 2009, 01:35 PM
she doesn't like to talk about her injuries, usually we get the news from Richard because Venus usually does not talk about them and when a reporter brings it up she brushes it aside like as if it's nothing. I guess that she doesn't want to show vulnerability , after all this is a tournament and lots of players/coaches are scouting around.


Well that is what I find a bit childish from Venus not (and I quote) "historically talking about her injuries". Most players know she's been having a knee problem since Wimbledon. It's probably tendinitis. I doesn't looks that serious but it is lingering. It's not showing vulnerability acknowledging it is tendinitis.

is1531
Sep 1st, 2009, 01:38 PM
You are delusional; Dushevina never served for the match. She served for the first set at 5-4.

In the second set Dush held to make it 5-4, then vee held to make it 5-5, then she broke vee to make 5-6 and then she held with 4 great serves to make it 5-7. Dush never served for the match.

Your right.

LightWarrior
Sep 1st, 2009, 01:38 PM
What a horrible inhuman thing to say. Men are a complete disgrace with their arrogance. Vera put up a great fight in spite of your lies. :cool:

She is boring to watch. The match was not boring because Venus was on the other side of the net. Plus she has no expression on her face.

volta
Sep 1st, 2009, 01:39 PM
Well that is what I find a bit childish from Venus not (and I quote) "historically talking about her injuries". Most players know she's been having a knee problem since Wimbledon. It's probably tendinitis. I doesn't looks that serious but it is lingering. It's not showing vulnerability acknowledging it is tendinitis.

but why should she? she feels it's her business and talking about it wont help healing it :shrug:

is1531
Sep 1st, 2009, 01:43 PM
The original post states that Dushevina has a chance. Then you have to go inside to what I said about Dushevina's backhand. Dushevina did have a chance tonight, in spite of of what some of the arrogant men said tonight. Vera's serve eventually became her kiss of death. I am not surprised that a few of the men did not apologize for thinking that Vera did not have a chance. Vera never faced a crowd this large, but I am proud of her effort. :)

miffedmax
Sep 1st, 2009, 02:01 PM
Bleah. This was shaping up to potentially be a long US Open on the distaff side.

Good fight from Venus, but :nervous:. Not sure how deep she'll go, then the potential frag match.

What happened to Vera? Not last night, but in general. I really thought she'd be a stronger player by now. She's not horrible, but I really thought she'd be further along.

2moretogo
Sep 1st, 2009, 02:34 PM
Venus always looks so rushed. She doesn't take the ball early enough, and consequently is always pushed back by the most innocuous of shots.

This. I kept screaming to get in, to take the ball early, but for some reason she looks like she's so indecisive about what she wants to do with the ball.

While I like that he hitting partner was pissed and then happy (showing some emotion), I felt like he totally said too much, but maybe that was in the moment.

And Venus' on court was too cute, "Lots of prayer." :hearts:

The Dawntreader
Sep 1st, 2009, 02:45 PM
Really odd match. Venus was down countless deficits, but i always felt like she was still going to win. Dushevina was playing one of her better matches too, which was even more odd. There were times when she was playing FREE tennis. Hitting her forehand with some fluency too, which is a complete rarity. A really good effort from Vera i thought, but just didn't quite have the courage on key points. It's so obvious when she's under pressure, because her serve and forehand just completely fall away.

Venus had a lot to contend with tonight, so it's good for her she got through. Venus has had many losses early at Slams with 50+ errors thrown in, so for her to pull this out will give her some confidence at least. Major issues with her serve though, which maybe were contributed by the knee. It's not that she wasn't able to generate pace on the serve, but her timing and rythm were completely thrown. Still Venus is incredibly dangerous in this tournament now. Her form now is completely unpredictable.

Adaora
Sep 1st, 2009, 02:56 PM
Ppl commenting here and criticizing Venus' game like they didn't know Venus was injured. I wonder if y'all even watched the match or had your comments typed up even before the match started. *smh*

Great job Venus for gutting out this win. Hope you rest up your knee and do better in the next round.

spencercarlos
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:23 PM
Uh, the last two sets were pretty good. I loved this match, tons of great points. :cool:
My feelings exactly and actually i was amazed on how Venus hung in there, she was forced to hit a lof of shots, for an almost 3 hour match, and considering how ugly she can be, she did not have that many errors for an almost 3 hour match.

Great match, i loved how Dushevina returned serve the whole match :bounce:

John.
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:30 PM
What a match - Totally did not expect this :eek:

Vera but played great and was so close to a huge upset, but great fight from Vee to hang in there.

I'm worried about how far she can go with the knee though :scared:

Radix2
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:42 PM
Venus had to dig deep to win that match. Hopefully she'll rest the knee and play better next round.

Infiniti2001
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:08 PM
If her knee was bothering her, where was the limp and why was she running so fast on every play? Men can be suckered into anything. Dushevina gave her a battle but the difference in serving was Dushevina's loss. Dushevina was ahead 5-4 in the 2nd set serving for the match, but did not have the tools to close out the match. :)

Did you not see she was given something for the pain? :rolleyes:

Ryan
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:28 PM
She is boring to watch. The match was not boring because Venus was on the other side of the net. Plus she has no expression on her face.



Uh, Venus never has an expression on her face either...?


Vera was NOT boring in this match. This was a really exciting match, with lots of great shots from both sides of the net.

Fabunny
Sep 1st, 2009, 06:53 PM
congrats to Venus. I'm glad she won since the crowd really wasn't behind her* per usual.




*didn't actually see the match but read this from reputable TF sources.

don't believe everything you read. I attended the night match last night and the crowd was firmly behind Venus. We were stunned that Venus was injured at the beginning of the match and just could not find her range. It seemed like everything she hit was long, wide, a double fault or a foot fault. We did not have a lot of good tennis to cheer in the first set and a half but we were sceaming for Venus.

I had no voice left when I got home because I left it all at Arthur Ashe for Venus. We literally willed Venus to play better. She siad in her on-court intervire that she felt our energey when she was serving to stay in the second set at 4-5. It was awsesome.
Vera Dushevina played very well and seemed to return all of Venus' serves. We applauded her good tennis as well.

RenaSlam.
Sep 1st, 2009, 06:56 PM
Great job, Venus.

AcesHigh
Sep 1st, 2009, 07:23 PM
I'm just glad she's through. I couldnt bare to watch the match.. I was getting sick

cn ireland
Sep 1st, 2009, 07:28 PM
That was too close for comfort Venus:scared:!

bandabou
Sep 2nd, 2009, 10:42 AM
a win is a win, I guess..but the knee is worrisome.