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mauresmofan
Sep 1st, 2009, 01:33 AM
I'm just after watching the tie break between Venus and Dushevina and it's clear that Venus was put off after a footfault was called while she was leading. Venus seemed surprised and a little annoyed and asked which foot caused the fault but surely seeing as there is already a challenge system shouldn't she be allowed to challenge that call and get a replay of exactly where her foot was at the moment she struck the ball - there seems to be no grounds for an appeal in that case and it can be very offputting. I'm not saying that a footfault isn't part of tennis because it is and good on those linespeople calling them but there just seems to be no way to appeal such a call and surely it should be embodied within the challenge system.

Uranium
Sep 1st, 2009, 01:38 AM
That's interesting that you say that because last year I think the Bryans had a dispute with an umpire about something similar. The umpire called touch, that one of them touched the net for a volley, but they said that it was the ball and they wanted to challenge, but the umpire wouldn't do it:lol:

mauresmofan
Sep 1st, 2009, 01:45 AM
That's interesting that you say that because last year I think the Bryans had a dispute with an umpire about something similar. The umpire called touch, that one of them touched the net for a volley, but they said that it was the ball and they wanted to challenge, but the umpire wouldn't do it:lol:

I didn't hear about that call at all but it's very interesting that they brought it up because I think the challenge system is a great innovation but it should include or at least expand to cover more areas of a tennis match where calls make a difference.

youizahoe
Sep 1st, 2009, 01:50 AM
Actually, they could already leave out the linesmen, and let hawkeye control the entire match, with beeping when the ball is out. :shrug:. But it's a good idea to include all challenges, let and footfaults.

mauresmofan
Sep 1st, 2009, 01:55 AM
Actually, they could already leave out the linesmen, and let hawkeye control the entire match, with beeping when the ball is out. :shrug:.

I'd hate if they did that - I think you need those people for atmosphere and the challenge system is there to improve the fan player type involvement in calls during a match and stop calls completely ruining a match aka Serena Capriati 04.

darrinbaker00
Sep 1st, 2009, 01:58 AM
I got called for a foot fault in a match once. ONCE. I backed up a couple of inches on the next serve, and I haven't had that problem since. If an amateur like me can do it, why can't these highly-skilled, highly-trained professionals?

Donny
Sep 1st, 2009, 02:01 AM
Actually, they could already leave out the linesmen, and let hawkeye control the entire match, with beeping when the ball is out. :shrug:. But it's a good idea to include all challenges, let and footfaults.

That would slow the game down to a ridiculous crawl. It'd be like if the NBA decided to use instant replay after every play-- wouldn't be feasible.

schorsch
Sep 1st, 2009, 02:38 AM
Well she's been footfaulting A LOT without getting called out, that's actually been more irritating than the one footfault in the TB that made her doublefault.
If it gets called enough you will back off, but this way she's just doing it over and over again which is unfair to the opponent. But it's tough for the opponent to see footfaults, how could she challenge that? Lucky guesses after an ace? That's absurd. So that rule would suck, because it would only favour the server and not the returner.

Morrissey
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:07 AM
I think the OP has a great point it's a good idea! Yes definitely the player has a right to know by seeing video exactly which foot crossed the line. Also, this is important because you can lose a point.

darrinbaker00
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:09 AM
I think the OP has a great point it's a good idea! Yes definitely the player has a right to know by seeing video exactly which foot crossed the line. Also, this is important because you can lose a point.
If Orville/Morrissey likes it, then it's DEFINITELY a bad idea.

joz
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:19 AM
I think all calls should be challengable... of course THIS IS THE SAME TOURNAMENT that last year got wrapped up in McHale's heat issues and TOTALLY quit calling foot faults. She was actually starting with her foot, fat on the line.

Direwolf
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:28 AM
nah.. stubborn players need to lern

LindsayRulz
Sep 1st, 2009, 03:34 AM
I highly doubt we could add it to the challenge system. I mean, I don't think the system would be able to detect both the exact moment when the player hits the ball and if the player touched the baseline with his/her feet from the moment he/she toss the ball up. :shrug:

Volcana
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:01 AM
How many players look at their feet when serving? What's the basis for the challenge? I agree they should allow that to be challenged, but the player is challenging blind.

young_gunner913
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:47 AM
i think it would be a good idea :shrug:

SharapovaFTW
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:52 AM
Awful Idea!

darrinbaker00
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:54 AM
i think it would be a good idea :shrug:
Like Volcana said, neither the server nor the returner at that level are looking at the server's feet when the ball is struck. There's no way you could realistically implement it.

mdterp01
Sep 1st, 2009, 05:14 AM
Sure you could implement it!! Just the way you can challenge certain things in football, this is one of the things that a player can challenge in a match. Foot faults don't usually happen often so all of this talk about the game being slow down don't make sense. Clearly it would be something that only the server could challenge but incorporate it within the challenges you have. So if you use it and don't win then that is one taken away from challenging a serve or a call that was called out but really in or vice versa.

rockstar
Sep 1st, 2009, 08:47 AM
given that footfaults are quite rare, i dont see a need

Serenita
Sep 1st, 2009, 08:57 AM
that line judge was a douchebag. but nah no instant replay of footfaults.