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Caipirinha Guy
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:28 PM
SECTION 1

Safina
Rogowska
U.Radwanska
Barrois
Garbin
Cecil
Kvitova
Kleybanova

SECTION 2

Schnyder
Safarova
Errani
Rus
Peng
Groth
Wickmayer
Razzano

SECTION 3

Ivanovic
K.Bondarenko
Q
Niculescu
Q
Dominguez-Lino
Rezai
Lisicki

SECTION 4

A.Bondarenko
Kudryavtseva
Dulko
Makarova
Shvedova
Zec-Peskiric
Vinci
Jankovic

SECTION 5

Dementieva
Q
Pavlyuchenkova
Oudin
Hercog
McHale
Pironkova
Sharapova

SECTION 6

Zheng
Groenefeld
Cornet
Q
Q
Coin
Srebotnik
Petrova

SECTION 7

Wozniacki
Voskoboeva
Q
Beltrame-Bremond
Mladenovic
Dubois
Morita
Cirstea

SECTION 8

Szavay
Peer
Lepchenko
Suarez-Navarro
Tanasugarn
Sevastova
Goerges
Kuznetsova

SECTION 9

Azarenka
Dulgheru
Q
Q
Brianti
Voegele
Q
Schiavone

SECTION 10

Li
Olaru
Larcher de Brito
Johansson
Kirilenko
Q
Mayr
A.Radwanska

SECTION 11

Bartoli
de los Rios
Kutuzova
Clijsters
Flipkens
Dokic
Brodsky
Medina Garrigues

SECTION 12

Kanepi
Q
Rybarikova
Q
Mattek-Sands
Benesova
Dushevina
V.Williams

SECTION 13

Zvonareva
Llagostera-Vives
Q
Chakvetadze
Q
Craybas
Hradecka
Vesnina

SECTION 14

Mauresmo
Malek
Wozniak
Granville
Govortsova
Mirza
Gallovits
Pennetta

SECTION 15

Stosur
Sugiyama
King
Yakimova
Bacsinszky
Q
Shaughnessy
Hantuchova

SECTION 16

Bammer
Martinez-Sanchez
Q
Petkovic
Czink
Camerin
Glatch
S.Williams

I was typing what I saw on the screen. :D And somehow made it :lol:

joão.
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:29 PM
I hate it. :)

Ferg
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:30 PM
Ill need to see it in proper form as thats very hard to make it but considering Marions draw i hate it too. :unsure:

CloudAtlas
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:30 PM
Final = Serena def. Safina 6-2 6-3.

Ellery
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:31 PM
Jie vs Anna Lena :rolleyes:

Kim's_fan_4ever
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:31 PM
First the first time in a long time, I love a GS draw. Bring it on :devil:

MBM
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:31 PM
if franny doesn't make the third round with that draw, I'll cut myself

tim2502
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:32 PM
I think Ana will lose in 1r.

duhcity
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:32 PM
Best Slam draw in a while for me.
Very balanced.

Safina, Jankovic, Kleybs, and LOOMING PENG

Dementieva, Sharapova, Zheng, Cirstea, Wozniacki

Azarenka, Clijsters, Radwanska, Bartoli, Venus

Bepa, Stosur, Mauresmo, Pennetta, Serena

P_Fer
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:36 PM
I despise this draw :(

Vaidisova
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:38 PM
I like the draw

Eduardo Oliveira
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:38 PM
Great draw for Dina and Serena :o

CloudAtlas
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:38 PM
I'm glad there won't be an all Williams final , Safina may give us another shitfest but at least there's still the sick thrill of watching what happens, that unpredictablity would at least make the final watchable. Incredible cakewalks for both Serena and Safina though.

Ana won't get the chance to wear her night dress.

Ballbasher
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:39 PM
I hate Sveta's opener :o I'm certain she will really struggle against Julia.
Maria's draw is :help: Opening against Tsveti and possible match against Elena in R3.

Temperenka
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:40 PM
Of course Vika draws Venus in the QF and Serena in the SF :o

I think Ana will lose in Round 1. :scared:

Caipirinha Guy
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:40 PM
Clijsters for Bartoli and Dementieva for Sharapova :devil:
Just enjoy the draw... :p

Hopefully Ula will oust Safina in 2R. :ras:
Rezai vs Lisicki :help:

But Mayr vs A.Radwanska. Priceless :lol:

Marionated
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:40 PM
Hate it.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:41 PM
I'm glad there won't be an all Williams final , Safina may give us another shitfest but at least there's still the sick thrill of watching what happens, that unpredictablity would at least make the final watchable. Incredible cakewalks for both Serena and Safina though.

Ana won't get the chance to wear her night dress.

3R .Bammer who beat Serena and can be quite dangerous if her game is freely flowing and then Pennetta in QF who is in such an excellent form Also Stosur in 4th Round who is in a super form too and beat Serena a couple of weeks ago :shrug:

I wouldn't call it a cake walk draw.

On the other hand, Safina's only competition is in QF against JJ :shrug:


PS:- Does anyone find it funny that the players who beat serena this US Hard court season, are scheduled to play her at the earliest point which their seeding could allow :shrug:

bellascarlett
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:41 PM
Top heavy :lol:

Very interesting top half with potential upsets...as opposed to the the very boring bottom half :zzz: Kim should take advantage.

KanSuke
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:44 PM
Shushu is likely going to win a match :inlove:

drake3781
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:46 PM
Come ON Olivia, take out Dinara 1R!!!

CloudAtlas
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:46 PM
3R Bammer

and then 4R Pennetta who is in such an excellent form followed by Stosur who is in a super form too :shrug:

I wouldn't call it a cake walk draw.

On the other hand, Safina's only competition is in QF against JJ :shrug:



Pennetta is in the QF, although granted she is the toughest for Serena out of the 9-12 seeds, but Bammer will get eaten up for sure. Serena's level of tennis is way too good (overall anyway) in Grand Slams at this point in time to lose to her , especially after the 0-2 H2H. But Safina's is laughable , and after seeing Federer's draw it seems the #1 seeds are being given Tier II level draws all round.

Bijoux0021
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:47 PM
3R .Bammer who beat Serena and can be quite dangerous if her game is freely flowing and then 4R Pennetta who is in such an excellent form followed by Stosur who is in a super form too and beat Serena a couple of weeks ago :shrug:

I wouldn't call it a cake walk draw.

On the other hand, Safina's only competition is in QF against JJ :shrug:


PS:- Does anyone find it funny that the players who beat serena this US Hard court season, are scheduled to play her at the earliest point which their seeding could allow :shrug:
Expected.

Slammer7
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:50 PM
I'm glad there won't be an all Williams final , Safina may give us another shitfest but at least there's still the sick thrill of watching what happens, that unpredictablity would at least make the final watchable. Incredible cakewalks for both Serena and Safina though.

Ana won't get the chance to wear her night dress.

There hasn't been an all-Williams U.S Open final in 7 years and last year was the first time in 6 years either one of them reached the final, so what was the worry of it happening in the first place? They have been on the same side at the U.S Open more than any slam the last 6 years.

3R .Bammer who beat Serena and can be quite dangerous if her game is freely flowing and then 4R Pennetta who is in such an excellent form followed by Stosur who is in a super form too and beat Serena a couple of weeks ago :shrug:

I wouldn't call it a cake walk draw.

On the other hand, Safina's only competition is in QF against JJ :shrug:


PS:- Does anyone find it funny that the players who beat serena this US Hard court season, are scheduled to play her at the earliest point which their seeding could allow :shrug:

Just like the year everyone that had beaten Maria that year was in the opposite half. :lol: I love how statistical probabilities work out. :haha: Well the tougher the fight the sweeter the victory I guess. :shrug: :rolls:

BuTtErFrEnA
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:50 PM
3R .Bammer who beat Serena and can be quite dangerous if her game is freely flowing and then 4R Pennetta who is in such an excellent form followed by Stosur who is in a super form too and beat Serena a couple of weeks ago :shrug:

I wouldn't call it a cake walk draw.

On the other hand, Safina's only competition is in QF against JJ :shrug:


PS:- Does anyone find it funny that the players who beat serena this US Hard court season, are scheduled to play her at the earliest point which their seeding could allow :shrug:

it's expected...but they always forget that serena is a different person in slams :shrug: my bet is she mows them all down if they meet....elena is lucky she won't have to let max suffer again at the hands of serena after beating her before a slam

Kim's_fan_4ever
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:52 PM
On the other hand, Safina's only competition is in QF against JJ :shrug:

Kleybanova in the 3R?

CloudAtlas
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:55 PM
There hasn't been an all-Williams U.S Open final in 7 years and last year was the first time in 6 years either one of them reached the final, so what was the worry of it happening in the first place? They have been on the same side at the U.S Open more than any slam the last 6 years.



This is also the first time that both have been seeded in the top 4 of the USO in a long time , there was a higher chance of them meeting in the final.

Keegan
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:55 PM
Lol at Petrova being a possible 4R opponent for Maria

lilimi
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:00 PM
safina's draw is not so easy. kleybanova or razzano can make damage. moreover if her brains are off like they were in her previous matches, she can leave flushing since first round :o so don't worry too much, haters:) dinara is so nice that she can loose in frist round.
Poor Ana :unsure::unsure:

Miss Atomic Bomb
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:00 PM
Kleybanova in the 3R?

Its funny how Kleybanova is a hard draw all of a sudden because she beat a tired Jankovic at Toronto (lets forget her loses to Czink/Chakvetadze etc. this Hard court season. But Bammer (who beat Serena, who is better than Jankovic on hardcourt), Stosur (who beat Serena too and did so well this hardcourt season) abnd Pennetta (who still has a chance to win the USO series) are easy. Talk about double standards eh?

Kim's_fan_4ever
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:06 PM
Its funny how Kleybanova is a hard draw all of a sudden because she beat a tired Jankovic at Toronto (lets forget her loses to Czink/Chakvetadze etc. this Hard court season. But Bammer (who beat Serena, who is better than Jankovic on hardcourt), Stosur (who beat Serena too and did so well this hardcourt season) abnd Pennetta (who still has a chance to win the USO series) are easy. Talk about double standards eh?

I never said these things.
But I think that Kleybanova's chances should not be underestimated.
And why are you worried about Bammer/Stosur/Pennetta? Don't you Williams fans always say it's ok that Serena lost, she;ll get her revenge when they meet at a Slam and she's gonna play million times better? Or sth along those lines. You get the idea, though.

Kim's_fan_4ever
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:13 PM
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/draws/ws/r1s1.html
Here's the draw in nice format :)

GrandMartha
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:13 PM
It's the Russians vs Jankovic in the top half.
Serena will have no probs coming through her half.
Too bad Maria and Elena will have to eliminate each other too early :sad:
also there will be a potential clash between the Serbian sisters but Ana probably won't make it that far :o

2moretogo
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:15 PM
3R .Bammer who beat Serena and can be quite dangerous if her game is freely flowing and then Pennetta in QF who is in such an excellent form Also Stosur in 4th Round who is in a super form too and beat Serena a couple of weeks ago :shrug:

I wouldn't call it a cake walk draw.

On the other hand, Safina's only competition is in QF against JJ :shrug:


PS:- Does anyone find it funny that the players who beat serena this US Hard court season, are scheduled to play her at the earliest point which their seeding could allow :shrug:

No it is actually expected at this point by me. :lol: All the headcases (sans Janky- sometimes and Vera who luckily got in the bottom half) are all in Sharapova's half. Big Surprise!!!!

Temporary0369
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:20 PM
Tricky draw for Serena. Martinez Sanchez and Bammer as possible third round opponents. Possibly Stosur in the 4th. Pennetta or Zvonareva in the quarters. Serena is not very generous in slams though. She'll know not to underestimate any of those players.

Sharapova has a tough draw with Dementieva and Zheng looming. Dementieva is one of the players she used to own but neither is the same player right now. If I told you in 2004 that Dementieva was going to have a better serve than Sharapova you'd smack me right in my smart mouth.

I actually like Jankovic's draw. Hopefully Ivanovic doesn't decide to find her game if the two meet though. Safina is also an obvious threat to a final. She has a good/competitive head to head with everyone in her section.

Azarenka's draw is interesting. I'd love a Venus - Azarenka quarter.

*Jool*
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:22 PM
I hope Jankovic or Wozniacki someone avoid the presence of a Russian in the final :help: ( I would not mind Sharapova in the final, though)
I also kinda hope Clijsters repeats her Stanford upset of Bartoli (if not Rossana :hearts: lol )
Bottom half : well... I want Serena to win the whole thing but it's gonna be tough , it's a very open draw ... I think Venus has a very good shot at the title this year , so good luck to her !

also ... good luck to all the Spaniards, and KATA ! :hearts:

LCS
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:22 PM
Maria and Elena so close..:scared:

Dodoboy.
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:23 PM
This is terrible

Ferg
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:25 PM
I also kinda hope Clijsters repeats her Stanford upset of Bartoli (if not Rossana :hearts: lol )


Bartoli won Stanford you know. :scratch:

AnnaK_4ever
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:25 PM
This is a great chance for Safina/Jankovic to finally win a slam title. All they need is Serena losing before the final and with her draw it's quite possible.

*Jool*
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:28 PM
Bartoli won Stanford you know. :scratch:
I tend to forget bad moments of my life :lol:
ok so it was in Cincinatti, right ? ;)

starin
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:30 PM
Framesur is a very tough R.16 for Serena. She's going for huge serves huge returns and huge forehands and for the most part making them. Even her frames are landing in.


Venus....I don't expect much from her so I won't be surprised to see her lose to anyone in her draw. I mean she lost to K. Bondarenko and Flavia Pennetta so... I think Clijsters will make it to the quarters in that section.

drake3781
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:32 PM
Shushu is likely going to win a match :inlove:


Shushu lost to this girl in their only H2H, earlier this year. ;)

Ferg
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:32 PM
I tend to forget bad moments of my life :lol:
ok so it was in Cincinatti, right ? ;)

Of course! :D But im so sorry Marion winning a title would make you sad. :awww:

drake3781
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:33 PM
I tend to forget bad moments of my life :lol:
ok so it was in Cincinatti, right ? ;)

No, Bartoli did not play Cincy. Maybe it was LA?

Fantasy Hero
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:34 PM
Pennetta vs Momo then maybe Vera and Ree :scared:
worst draw ever

Fantasy Hero
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:34 PM
No, Bartoli did not play Cincy. Maybe it was LA?

Flavia won LA:lol:

Ferg
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:36 PM
No, Bartoli did not play Cincy. Maybe it was LA?

No, she skipped L.A. after winning Stanford! ;) It was most definitly Cinci. I remember because i though, 'well, at least its not as bad as her loss here last year.' :unsure:

Selah
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:38 PM
If Venus gets past Vera D in first round, she might have a chance to get far, but seriously I'm glad it's not Flavia :lol:

Dawson.
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:38 PM
Final = Serena def. Safina 6-2 6-3.

Pretty much :yawn:

*Jool*
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:40 PM
Of course! :D But im so sorry Marion winning a title would make you sad. :awww:
oh don't worry I was joking :lol: I am not fond of Marion Bartoli, to say the least , but I'm not anymore in a phase of my life where any given tennis game result would make me sad ;) it's a game , and I'm not the one playing :lol:

Ferg
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:41 PM
oh don't worry I was joking :lol: I am not fond of Marion Bartoli, to say the least , but I'm not anymore in a phase of my life where any given tennis game result would make me sad ;) it's a game , and I'm not the one playing :lol:

Lucky you. Marion's results makes me sad all the time. :sobbing: :angel:

drake3781
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:41 PM
No, she skipped L.A. after winning Stanford! ;) It was most definitly Cinci. I remember because i though, 'well, at least its not as bad as her loss here last year.' :unsure:


Oh, right, she did play Cincinnati. :o

Fantasy Hero
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:50 PM
If Venus gets past Vera D in first round, she might have a chance to get far, but seriously I'm glad it's not Flavia :lol:

:tape: i wished Flavia got Vee...but i don't think she will get over Momo in R3:help:

ivanban
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:50 PM
Its funny how Kleybanova is a hard draw all of a sudden because she beat a tired Jankovic at Toronto (lets forget her loses to Czink/Chakvetadze etc. this Hard court season. But Bammer (who beat Serena, who is better than Jankovic on hardcourt), Stosur (who beat Serena too and did so well this hardcourt season) abnd Pennetta (who still has a chance to win the USO series) are easy. Talk about double standards eh?

Wait a sec....are you suggesting that Bummer is better than JJ ANYWHERE?!!! :help: :cuckoo: :lol: :haha:

Miss Atomic Bomb
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:52 PM
Wait a sec....are you suggesting that Bummer is better than JJ ANYWHERE?!!! :help: :cuckoo: :lol: :haha:

I was saying Serena is better than JJ on hardcourts :scratch: Bammer beat Serena, Alisa beat JJ .


You JJ fans are so delusioned, that you get offended by most neutral posts too :shrug: I wouldnt be suprised if you have already started gang reporting this post.

Cakeisgood
Aug 27th, 2009, 05:52 PM
Expected.

lol at this.

Slammer7
Aug 27th, 2009, 06:02 PM
I was saying Serena is better than JJ on hardcourts :scratch: Bammer beat Serena, Alisa beat JJ .


You JJ fans are so delusioned, that you get offended by most neutral posts too :shrug: I wouldnt be suprised if you have already started gang reporting this post.

:hug:

Mistress of Evil
Aug 27th, 2009, 06:03 PM
This is a great chance for Safina/Jankovic to finally win a slam title. All they need is Serena losing before the final and with her draw it's quite possible.

No way of Safina\Jankovic being of the finalists.

Kim's_fan_4ever
Aug 27th, 2009, 06:12 PM
I was saying Serena is better than JJ on hardcourts :scratch: Bammer beat Serena, Alisa beat JJ .


You JJ fans are so delusioned, that you get offended by most neutral posts too :shrug: I wouldnt be suprised if you have already started gang reporting this post.

He misunderstood you :weirdo: You have some serious issues with JJ and her fans.

дalex
Aug 27th, 2009, 06:14 PM
You JJ fans are so delusioned, that you get offended by most neutral posts too :shrug: I wouldnt be suprised if you have already started gang reporting this post.

:hearts:

Great draw for Jeca. She'll win them all as I've predicted.

ivanban
Aug 27th, 2009, 06:15 PM
I was saying Serena is better than JJ on hardcourts :scratch: Bammer beat Serena, Alisa beat JJ .


You JJ fans are so delusioned, that you get offended by most neutral posts too :shrug: I wouldnt be suprised if you have already started gang reporting this post.

We have to be always on alert. Who knows what subliminal messages you're incorporating :sobbing: :unsure:

davidmario
Aug 27th, 2009, 06:24 PM
another first round exit for petra kvitova:sad:
dushevina will be a tough first round for vee!

TSequoia01
Aug 27th, 2009, 06:27 PM
I never said these things.
But I think that Kleybanova's chances should not be underestimated.
And why are you worried about Bammer/Stosur/Pennetta? Don't you Williams fans always say it's ok that Serena lost, she;ll get her revenge when they meet at a Slam and she's gonna play million times better? Or sth along those lines. You get the idea, though.

I don't think it is about being worried, people are just noting eveyone who defeated Serena this summer is on her side of the draw along with Venus.

Tennisstar86
Aug 27th, 2009, 06:33 PM
Draw seems pretty even except Serena's quarter is def the easiest.....

TSequoia01
Aug 27th, 2009, 06:39 PM
Draw seems pretty even except Serena's quarter is def the easiest.....
I would have bet money Venus would not end up on Safina's side of the draw.

Tennisstar86
Aug 27th, 2009, 06:44 PM
This is a great chance for Safina/Jankovic to finally win a slam title. All they need is Serena losing before the final and with her draw it's quite possible.

Safina needs more than that.... I think shes proven no matter who it is once she gets to that big stage shes gonna choke. Girl needs a hope and prayer....

Framesur is a very tough R.16 for Serena. She's going for huge serves huge returns and huge forehands and for the most part making them. Even her frames are landing in.


Venus....I don't expect much from her so I won't be surprised to see her lose to anyone in her draw. I mean she lost to K. Bondarenko and Flavia Pennetta so... I think Clijsters will make it to the quarters in that section.

Venus' quarter is hard to predict. I could see her losing to any of those people, but i can also see her handling them easily.... If she doesnt show up though i still wouldnt put Kim through to the quarters... She'll have trouble getting past Marion in the 2nd round. She beat her once, but that was after Marion won a title, and the one thing the girls on tour seem to have in common is regrouping after they win a tournament Dokic and Kanepi are dangerous...
Great opportunity for Azarenka though for sure to storm to her first second week at flushing meadows...

Tennisstar86
Aug 27th, 2009, 06:47 PM
I would have bet money Venus would not end up on Safina's side of the draw.

haha, i mean it was 50/50, but obviously if Venus/Safina were a semi again seeing the #1 thrashed 2 grand slams in a row would have been bad for the tour...sadly I just looked at Safinas draw and it is also a joke, (Serenas is second easy) which means she wont lose a lot of points... but hopefully Jankovic knocks her out in the quarters.... cause she does not need to embarrass herself or the tour in a slam semifinal or final again....

cn ireland
Aug 27th, 2009, 06:48 PM
C'mon Dokic, Sharapova & Clijsters:bounce:!

Just Do It
Aug 27th, 2009, 06:49 PM
Jelena vs Ana 4th round, bring it on :D

Amazing draw for Dokic :woohoo:

DutchieGirl
Aug 27th, 2009, 06:54 PM
:smash: HATE IT! :smash: F'ING HATE IT! :smash: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery:

olivero
Aug 27th, 2009, 06:56 PM
Aga vs Mayr :lol: love it! too bad she has Li and Vika later :unsure:
Rogowska or Ula to upset Safina in first rounds? :drool: ;)

Svetlana.
Aug 27th, 2009, 07:06 PM
I never said these things.
But I think that Kleybanova's chances should not be underestimated.
And why are you worried about Bammer/Stosur/Pennetta? Don't you Williams fans always say it's ok that Serena lost, she;ll get her revenge when they meet at a Slam and she's gonna play million times better? Or sth along those lines. You get the idea, though.

:lol:

and plus she's a "real" number one who supposedly should not worry about Bammer or Stosur on the first place. Weren't they saying Serena was tanking her matches to them on purpose?

LeonHart
Aug 27th, 2009, 07:07 PM
Sigh, I wanted Dulgheru to draw a qualifier first round so she can get a win under her belt :sad:

Well it looks to be a Russian/Williams final. I'd be surprised if it wasn't.

Fantasy Hero
Aug 27th, 2009, 07:12 PM
Sigh, I wanted Dulgheru to draw a qualifier first round so she can get a win under her belt :sad:

Well it looks to be a Russian/Williams final. I'd be surprised if it wasn't.

i wanted her to face Mayr...the most out of shape match ever:lol:

maja.amelie
Aug 27th, 2009, 07:12 PM
Me likes the draw :) .Come on Rena!

~Cherry*Blossom~
Aug 27th, 2009, 07:16 PM
Awful draw!

tae04
Aug 27th, 2009, 07:20 PM
I like Serena's chances into the final. She half heartedly played the girls she lost to this summer. She will eat them up at the Open. I don't see Serena dropping a set until the Semis if that.

barboza
Aug 27th, 2009, 07:28 PM
Clijsters vs. Venus :drool:

volta
Aug 27th, 2009, 07:30 PM
AWFUL :o Williams in the same side again, i hate this :o

Svetlana.
Aug 27th, 2009, 07:31 PM
too bad JJ and Serena are not on the same side of the draw.

gmak
Aug 27th, 2009, 07:43 PM
lena vs masha 3R :help: :( :rolleyes: :mad:
masha vs nadia 4R :lol: but can't see nadia making it that far
good draw for kim, dinara, βepa and vika

welcome back kata :hug: :woohoo:

miffedmax
Aug 27th, 2009, 07:51 PM
This draw is more or less the equivalent of urinating on Elena's bangs.

Slammer7
Aug 27th, 2009, 07:54 PM
This draw is more or less the equivalent of urinating on Elena's bangs.

I love ya' Max :hug:, but is that a good thing or a bad thing? I don't know, after that scenario you posted the other day. :shrug:

Pasta-Na
Aug 27th, 2009, 09:48 PM
shushu, na and little jie. :inlove:

PLP
Aug 27th, 2009, 10:01 PM
The draw is rather interesting actually.
Some intriguing possible matchups:

Jelena vs Ana rd16 would be sweet:angel:

Pavlyuchenkova vs Oudin 1st rd! :eek:

Kirilenko vs Qualifier And Anna C vs Qualifier, 1st rds! :hearts:

Vee vs Kim rd16 :sad:

Momo vs Flavi 3rd rd :)

Ryan
Aug 27th, 2009, 10:02 PM
Hmm, this is a really interesting draw.


I don't think Safina's draw is really that easy...Kleybanova in 3R. Yes, she's only had one great tourney, but she played amazing tennis in that event. If she plays half as well here, she'll push the slumping Safina (who lost to Rezai...hello, Dinara's not playing well!). Virginie can play some good tennis too, and Ana/JJ in a GS QF isn't as good as people would think.

That being said I wouldn't be surprised if Safina cruises. :yawn:

Poor Ana. :sobbing: Please step it up.

ED/Maria - :o I wouldn't be surprised at all if Maria crushes Elena, which would be unfortunate since ED could easily make the finals.

Sveta...I expect an early loss.

TOUGH draw for Vika. :sobbing: Any chance of her winning her first slam here, is gone, with her having to face Venus, Serena, or maybe Kim before the finals. :(

Serena's draw is :lol: She ends up playing Bammer and Sam. :spit: That being said, Serena doesn't lose to scrubs at Slams lately (off clay lol), so she'll probably make the Semis without dropping a set.

Great potential matchups, I think this will be a good one. :cool:

rada
Aug 27th, 2009, 10:19 PM
i would love Ana Vs Jelena 4th rd :)

Not bad draw for Dokic so i'm happy :)

tennisforadults
Aug 27th, 2009, 10:34 PM
Good draw!!! Not perfect, but I can't be too greedy. ;)

Sam Stosur has a nice path to the 4th round, where she may meet Serena. Hantuchova in 3rd round is very beatable. If Sam really gets there, it will be her best performance ever at the USO, so that's probably enough to get her closer to top 10.

Dokic doesn't have a bad draw too. If she makes it past the first 2 rounds, she may come up against Klijsters/Bartoli in 3rd round, then Venus in 4th round. I'm so eager to see how her game's shaping up now, having not played since Wimbledon.

Poor Olivia Rogowska gets Safina in Round 1. :help:

Groth has a tricky 1st round 'unseeded and looming' opponent, then an even trickier seeded opponent in 2nd round.

tennisforadults
Aug 27th, 2009, 10:48 PM
TOUGH draw for Vika. :sobbing: Any chance of her winning her first slam here, is gone, with her having to face Venus, Serena, or maybe Kim before the finals. :(

What are you talking about??? :confused:

Azarenka has a GREAT draw - virtually assured of a QF place, with the most difficult opponents being Schiavone and Aga Radwanska, neither who are that in-form. No player in ANY Grand Slam draw will have an easy path from QF onwards, unless there are some monumental upsets in the other quarters. So for Vika to get to QF without meeting Kim, Maria, Sam or Flavia will have to be as close to a perfect draw as it can.

Moreover she's seeded 8th, she's guaranteed to meet one of the top 4 seeds in the QF.

Andy.
Aug 27th, 2009, 10:52 PM
Not the best draw for Masha but it could have been worse (Serena). She was pretty much dead playing Elena last week so hopefully she will put in a better performance this time around if the match up happens. I know she will up the Anti 10 flond in an attempt to win conidering she hates to lose to the same player twise and she has a great record against her.

Ryan
Aug 27th, 2009, 10:54 PM
What are you talking about??? :confused:

Azarenka has a GREAT draw - virtually assured of a QF place, with the most difficult opponents being Schiavone and Aga Radwanska, neither who are that in-form. No player in ANY Grand Slam draw will have an easy path from QF onwards, unless there are some monumental upsets in the other quarters. So for Vika to get to QF without meeting Kim, Maria, Sam or Flavia will have to be as close to a perfect draw as it can.

Moreover she's seeded 8th, she's guaranteed to meet one of the top 4 seeds in the QF.




....I know all of this. :lol: I was referring to a thread Volcana started about who could be a breakthrough winner at the USO, and I said it could be Vika provided she doesn't have to play both Venus AND Serena.


Vika's at the point IMO where making Slam QF's isn't good enough - she's immensely talented, and could really win this Slam IMO if she had a good draw. Her first 4 rounds are fine, yeah, but of the top 4 seeds to face...she clearly got the worst two IMO. :shrug:

joz
Aug 27th, 2009, 10:55 PM
Pretty routine draw for the top seeds. Seems weak compared to the bloodbath draws of Cincy and Toronto... oh well... hopefully they won't take it so lightly that we won't see them in week 2. I wonder if those players who take the tier I's seriously will be motivated in week 1 here.
Kim and Maria have good chances... I'd be suprised of ED can beat Maria 2 times in a row... not that she doesn't have the talent to do it... but mental strenghth will help Maria IMO.

Zojirushi
Aug 27th, 2009, 11:39 PM
Possible 3R Lena D vs Sharapova..

Tough opening match for ALG and Peer:mad:

AcesHigh
Aug 28th, 2009, 12:15 AM
Vika has a nice draw. Serena should coast to the title though.

I really hate Venus's draw. It's not terribly hard, but Dushevina is not a good 1st rounder, Clijsters worries me terribly and then Vika is always dangerous.

Serena's is the easiest, Safina's would be easiest but JJ looks like she's getting hot at the right time. Dementieva's is definitely the toughest.

tennisforadults
Aug 28th, 2009, 01:55 AM
....I know all of this. :lol: I was referring to a thread Volcana started about who could be a breakthrough winner at the USO, and I said it could be Vika provided she doesn't have to play both Venus AND Serena.

Vika's at the point IMO where making Slam QF's isn't good enough - she's immensely talented, and could really win this Slam IMO if she had a good draw. Her first 4 rounds are fine, yeah, but of the top 4 seeds to face...she clearly got the worst two IMO. :shrug:

Dementieva and Safina are not really any better to come up against either... though Safina is probably the weakest link among the top 4. That said, if Vika is ready to win her 1st Slam, she should be able to defeat both Serena and Venus, just like she did against Serena in Miami. She nearly beat Serena too at AO if not for dehydration.

Galsen
Aug 28th, 2009, 01:57 AM
Dementieva and Safina are not really any better to come up against either... though Safina is probably the weakest link among the top 4. That said, if Vika is ready to win her 1st Slam, she should be able to defeat both Serena and Venus, just like she did against Serena in Miami. She nearly beat Serena too at AO if not for dehydration.

:lol::lol::lol:

Slammer7
Aug 28th, 2009, 01:59 AM
Dementieva and Safina are not really any better to come up against either... though Safina is probably the weakest link among the top 4. That said, if Vika is ready to win her 1st Slam, she should be able to defeat both Serena and Venus, just like she did against Serena in Miami. She nearly beat Serena too at AO if not for dehydration.

:confused: Huh? :scratch: She got creamed at Wimbledon by Serena and the last time she played Venus she got just as creamed. :p

Tennisstar86
Aug 28th, 2009, 02:22 AM
Vika has a nice draw. Serena should coast to the title though.

I really hate Venus's draw. It's not terribly hard, but Dushevina is not a good 1st rounder, Clijsters worries me terribly and then Vika is always dangerous.

Serena's is the easiest, Safina's would be easiest but JJ looks like she's getting hot at the right time. Dementieva's is definitely the toughest.

Depends on how you look at it. As the poster says he thinks making quarters are not good enough for her.... hrmm, well she hasnt made the quarters at the US Open, but she does have potential for big things.... but as he said of the seeds she COULD have gotten she got the worse ones for the quarters/ Semifinals..... Granted Venus prolly wont even make it that far (why she has the toughest draw iMO), the fact is based on a drawing stand point if the seeds hold.... Venus in a quarter will be hell to beat... Then if she beat Venus best Serena? Maybe if she hadnt have played Venus.... Arent the ones who beat them both first beat Serena then Venus not the other way around?

anyays... Venus' draw is doable, except the fact that she is NOT in form and everyone else in her draw besides JJ and Dementieva are the players on tour who ARE in form this summer..... Dementieva's draw is really not that bad. yeah she got the big names, but the big names dont have the form this summer.... Dementieva will probably wipe the floor with Maria.....

Stosur/ Bartoli/ Pennetta/ Kim are the players to watch out for that have been making noise this summer and they all happen to be in Venus' draw....

Tennisstar86
Aug 28th, 2009, 02:34 AM
Dementieva and Safina are not really any better to come up against either... though Safina is probably the weakest link among the top 4. That said, if Vika is ready to win her 1st Slam, she should be able to defeat both Serena and Venus, just like she did against Serena in Miami. She nearly beat Serena too at AO if not for dehydration.

Safina is a joke, Who do you want to go up against.... a player that defeated an opponent 6-0,6-1 in a Slam semi-final or the player she defeated?

Nicolás89
Aug 28th, 2009, 02:38 AM
OMG Safina again is got the most pathetic excuse of a draw ever. :o

Dave.
Aug 28th, 2009, 02:38 AM
....I know all of this. :lol: I was referring to a thread Volcana started about who could be a breakthrough winner at the USO, and I said it could be Vika provided she doesn't have to play both Venus AND Serena.


Vika's at the point IMO where making Slam QF's isn't good enough - she's immensely talented, and could really win this Slam IMO if she had a good draw. Her first 4 rounds are fine, yeah, but of the top 4 seeds to face...she clearly got the worst two IMO. :shrug:


Woah..I don't think she's quite at that point yet. Vika only made her first QF a few months ago at the French and then her second at Wimbledon. Sure I'd like her to do a bit better than 2 & 3 but really, I would just like her to get to the QF's to start off with. She has had a fantastic year so far including winning a major title in Miami, but it's clear she still has a long way to go before she's solid enough to challenge in the latter rounds of slams. Everything in Vika's career so far has taken time. Took her ages to win a title, took her ages to get to a slam QF, and I believe it will be the same before she goes the next step. Add to all that, her summer hasn't been that great with her failing to even make QF of tour events.

She is a genuine top player and has to be considered a threat, but as far as experience in big slam matches goes, she's not really in a position to be thinking about her first slam at this USO. As a fan, another QF would be great given her summer, and anything else a huge bonus.

dany.p
Aug 28th, 2009, 02:51 AM
Depends on how you look at it. As the poster says he thinks making quarters are not good enough for her.... hrmm, well she hasnt made the quarters at the US Open, but she does have potential for big things.... but as he said of the seeds she COULD have gotten she got the worse ones for the quarters/ Semifinals..... Granted Venus prolly wont even make it that far (why she has the toughest draw iMO), the fact is based on a drawing stand point if the seeds hold.... Venus in a quarter will be hell to beat... Then if she beat Venus best Serena? Maybe if she hadnt have played Venus.... Arent the ones who beat them both first beat Serena then Venus not the other way around?

anyays... Venus' draw is doable, except the fact that she is NOT in form and everyone else in her draw besides JJ and Dementieva are the players on tour who ARE in form this summer..... Dementieva's draw is really not that bad. yeah she got the big names, but the big names dont have the form this summer.... Dementieva will probably wipe the floor with Maria.....

Stosur/ Bartoli/ Pennetta/ Kim are the players to watch out for that have been making noise this summer and they all happen to be in Venus' draw....
I don't understand how you can say kim is a player to watch out for while Maria isn't. As impressive as kims comeback has been, Sharapova's summer hard court results have still been better. Fact is, Maria has been making more noise this summer then kim. I agree about the other 3 players though. I thought Venus had a good draw, but on second thoughts it does look quite tricky.

Slammer7
Aug 28th, 2009, 02:55 AM
I don't understand how you can say kim is a player to watch out for while Maria isn't. As impressive as kims comeback has been, Sharapova's summer hard court results have still been better. Fact is, Maria has been making more noise this summer then kim. I agree about the other 3 players though

That's true every season. :rolls:

tennisforadults
Aug 28th, 2009, 03:11 AM
:confused: Huh? :scratch: She got creamed at Wimbledon by Serena and the last time she played Venus she got just as creamed. :p

I said IF Vika is ready to win her 1st Slam. If she can't beat Serena and Venus, then she's definitely not ready! To be fair, grass is not her best surface - she's got a better chance on the hard courts.

tennisforadults
Aug 28th, 2009, 03:15 AM
:lol::lol::lol:

Hmm I think I was misunderstood - phrase taken out of context. I don't think Vika is going to defeat both Serena and Venus. But if she's 'ready' to win a slam, she should.

Slammer7
Aug 28th, 2009, 03:15 AM
I said IF Vika is ready to win her 1st Slam. If she can't beat Serena and Venus, then she's definitely not ready! To be fair, grass is not her best surface - she's got a better chance on the hard courts.

If that's the mountain she have to climb to win a slam, then your expectations are too high. There have been only been a hand full of people to ever do that, you are asking Vika to be a hall of famer to win her first slam. That's asking too much.

Nicolás89
Aug 28th, 2009, 03:19 AM
If that's the mountain she have to climb to win a slam, then your expectations are too high. There have been only been a hand full of people to ever do that, you are asking Vika to be a hall of famer to win her first slam. That's asking too much.

The only one to ever do that is Justine Henin Us Open 2007. :worship:

Svetlana.
Aug 28th, 2009, 03:22 AM
If that's the mountain she have to climb to win a slam, then your expectations are too high. There have been only been a hand full of people to ever do that, you are asking Vika to be a hall of famer to win her first slam. That's asking too much.

not really... She might not even face Venus at all only Serena. And from all the upcoming youngsters only Vika proved to play well against Serena. I don’t think Vika is in a good form, but nobody expected Sharapova to beat Serena at 17 either.

Slammer7
Aug 28th, 2009, 03:25 AM
The only one to ever do that is Justine Henin Us Open 2007. :worship:


Wrong actually. :p Hingis did it at the 2001 AO. But she didn't win the tournament. The last few times it's happened one of the sisters were injured, 2 of the times it happened the player benefited from a retirement from Venus. :shrug:

Ryan
Aug 28th, 2009, 03:26 AM
I said IF Vika is ready to win her 1st Slam. If she can't beat Serena and Venus, then she's definitely not ready! To be fair, grass is not her best surface - she's got a better chance on the hard courts.



Completely disagree dude. Like the poster above pointed out, beating Venus and Serena in a Slam, and winning...near impossible. No one is "ready" to win a Slam by those standards.

My only point was I think this Slam would have been an excellent change for Vika to win, provided she got a good draw. Drawing Venus and Serena as early as possible....worst case scenario for ANYONE unless you're in Paris.


And obviously Slam QF's are good, I just think this is the perfect time for Azarenka to make a Semi or Final, and not slide into a consistent QF-losing player. If she got a draw, like Safina in the Quarters and Venus or ED in the Semis, then I'd say she has a good shot of making the final.

Slammer7
Aug 28th, 2009, 03:27 AM
not really... She might not even face Venus at all only Serena. And from all the upcoming youngsters only Vika proved to play well against Serena. I don’t think Vika is in a good form, but nobody expected Sharapova to beat Serena at 17 either.

Seems like Kim is a fashionable pick for people. :rolleyes: Please let her play Venus, Vee owes her some payback. :armed:

Nicolás89
Aug 28th, 2009, 03:27 AM
Wrong actually. :p Hingis did it at the 2001 AO. But she didn't win the tournament. The last few times it's happened one of the sisters were injured, 2 of the times it happened the player benefited from a retirement from Venus. :shrug:

That makes you wrong :confused:

And Martina was also injured in that match, still won 61 61. :p

Slammer7
Aug 28th, 2009, 03:30 AM
That makes you wrong :confused:

And Martina was also injured in that match, still won 61 61. :p

How so? I didn't say Venus was injured in that match. :rolleyes: She was out of shape though, she even admitted it later.

Nicolás89
Aug 28th, 2009, 03:32 AM
How so? I didn't say Venus was injured in that match. :rolleyes: She was out of shape though, she even admitted it later.

Both were injured so you know. :rolleyes:

Svetlana.
Aug 28th, 2009, 03:33 AM
Seems like Kim is a fashionable pick for people. :rolleyes: Please let her play Venus, Vee owes her some payback. :armed:

I actually want to see Kim and Venus meet at the Open. It would be a great rematch.

And don't blame people for not believing in Venus. Her latest performance does not give a lot of hope to many of us.

Ryan
Aug 28th, 2009, 03:35 AM
How so? I didn't say Venus was injured in that match. :rolleyes: She was out of shape though, she even admitted it later.



I think he just meant you were wrong because Hingis didn't win the tourney, which was the main part of the statement - beating V+S and winning the event.

joz
Aug 28th, 2009, 03:37 AM
Not much suspense in week 1. Don't get me wrong... certainly mentally several of the top 20 are at risk... but really... this is not an to intersting of a draw. Perhaps we should shorten the tournament and make it a 64 player draw but increase the number trying to qualify.
Perhaps take the top 40 and then 8 WC's and the rest from qualifying in the 64. The circuit has depth...but not enough depth to make week one interesting. That doesn't mean a top player won't lose... it means many of the early matchups are really not that intersting. AND some of the first round matches involve players that will never reach even the quarters of a GS. I'd rather see more qualifying and a smaller draw.

Slammer7
Aug 28th, 2009, 03:38 AM
Both were injured so you know. :rolleyes:

Huh? Maybe you should reread my post. Oh I understand now you think I was only talking about people beating both WS in the slams... I was talking about the times it's happened period. At the YEC in 2002 Venus was forced to retire against Clijsters with a calf strain and at L.A in 2004 she retired against Davenport. That's what I was referring too. You misinterpreted my statement. Thanks for the unnecessary contempt though. :hatoff:

Tennisstar86
Aug 28th, 2009, 03:41 AM
Completely disagree dude. Like the poster above pointed out, beating Venus and Serena in a Slam, and winning...near impossible. No one is "ready" to win a Slam by those standards.

My only point was I think this Slam would have been an excellent change for Vika to win, provided she got a good draw. Drawing Venus and Serena as early as possible....worst case scenario for ANYONE unless you're in Paris.


And obviously Slam QF's are good, I just think this is the perfect time for Azarenka to make a Semi or Final, and not slide into a consistent QF-losing player. If she got a draw, like Safina in the Quarters and Venus or ED in the Semis, then I'd say she has a good shot of making the final.

Facing Venus in a semi would be a disaster for her...... Azarenka is a mini Sharapova, Venus knows the game well hell she invented it and does it faster and better.....You want Azarenka to go up against the girl thats 14-4 in grand slam SF and has never lost to anyone outside the top 5 at the US Open. Her Only loss in a Semifinal since 2001 came from justine who played out of her mind... You couldnt wish anything worse for your girl.....
Ladies who have beaten Venus in a slam semi: Davenport, HingisX2, Henin....

Slammer7
Aug 28th, 2009, 03:43 AM
I actually want to see Kim and Venus meet at the Open. It would be a great rematch.

And don't blame people for not believing in Venus. Her latest performance does not give a lot of hope to many of us.

There is a difference between not believing she will win the tournament and believing she will lose to a player that is coming back from a 2 year retirement. Considering she only has 1 loss in her entire career before the quarterfinals and that was to Davenport(hardly a bad loss) and considering the last time she played Kim was the worst choke of her career, I just don't see her blowing it again. Kim has played great so far in her comeback but she is not playing to the standard of her 2005 run. :shrug:

Nicolás89
Aug 28th, 2009, 03:48 AM
Huh? Maybe you should reread my post. Oh I understand now you think I was only talking about people beating both WS in the slams... I was talking about the times it's happened period. At the YEC in 2002 Venus was forced to retire against Clijsters with a calf strain and at L.A in 2004 she retired against Davenport. That's what I was referring too. You misinterpreted my statement. Thanks for the unnecessary contempt though. :hatoff:

Maybe you should rewrite, because there was no way I could of know what you were trying to say from this:

If that's the mountain she have to climb to win a slam, then your expectations are too high. There have been only been a hand full of people to ever do that, you are asking Vika to be a hall of famer to win her first slam. That's asking too much.

Svetlana.
Aug 28th, 2009, 03:54 AM
There is a difference between not believing she will win the tournament and believing she will lose to a player that is coming back from a 2 year retirement. Considering she only has 1 loss in her entire career before the quarterfinals and that was to Davenport(hardly a bad loss) and considering the last time she played Kim was the worst choke of her career, I just don't see her blowing it again. Kim has played great so far in her comeback but she is not playing to the standard of her 2005 run. :shrug:

Venus isn't playing to her best standards either, so if they would meet it's going to be the most exciting match in that part of the draw.

Huntress55
Aug 28th, 2009, 03:55 AM
Olivia :lol: - hopefully she just goes out there and gives it her best, she has nothing to lose!

Hopefully Sammy keeps playing well and reaches the 4th round to take on Serena :armed:

Dokic, I like her draw. Hopefully shes fully fit and ready to play.

Overall for my favourites its a pretty good draw!! Some matches Im excited to see! :hearts:

SharapovaFTW
Aug 28th, 2009, 03:55 AM
Potential bracket busters:

U. Radwanska
Lisicki
Sharapova
Clijsters
Vesnina

If Maria gets to Lena and somehow beats her she shouldn't have an excuse (barring injury) in not making the Semis here. Potentially a matchup with the bag of nerves Safina. Couldn't ask for much better IMO. Serena and Stosur, I would like to see that match as well.

Svetlana.
Aug 28th, 2009, 03:59 AM
OMG Safina again is got the most pathetic excuse of a draw ever. :o

Is it an attempt to disrespect JJ’s abilities? :p

Nicolás89
Aug 28th, 2009, 04:00 AM
I actually want to see Kim and Venus meet at the Open. It would be a great rematch.

And don't blame people for not believing in Venus. Her latest performance does not give a lot of hope to many of us.

I think that would be exciting. I think that lost to Kim really bugged Venus, wasn't that the match where she said something like Kim played horrible and at some point of the match she dropped to her level and that was how she won? I think she said something like that.

Nicolás89
Aug 28th, 2009, 04:01 AM
Is it an attempt to disrespect JJ’s abilities? :p

It isn't. I hope Jelena can defend the final.

Svetlana.
Aug 28th, 2009, 04:04 AM
It isn't. I hope Jelena can defend the final.

but you know that JJ is in Safina's draw :lol: so it looks to me that Dinara’s draw is much tougher than Serena’s

Slammer7
Aug 28th, 2009, 04:04 AM
Maybe you should rewrite, because there was no way I could of know what you were trying to say from this:

If that's the mountain she have to climb to win a slam, then your expectations are too high. There have been only been a hand full of people to ever do that, you are asking Vika to be a hall of famer to win her first slam. That's asking too much.


How do you get that I was referring to one or even two people from the term "a hand full of people"? That would have to be a really small hand. :lol:

Nicolás89
Aug 28th, 2009, 04:06 AM
How do you get that I was referring to one or even two people from the term "a hand full of people"? That would have to be a really small hand. :lol:

That's why I thought you were wrong.

Slammer7
Aug 28th, 2009, 04:07 AM
I think that would be exciting. I think that lost to Kim really bugged Venus, wasn't that the match where she said something like Kim was played horrible and at some point of the match she dropped to her level and that was how she won? I think she said something like that.

No I think it was the match in Stanford.

Tennisstar86
Aug 28th, 2009, 04:08 AM
I think that would be exciting. I think that lost to Kim really bugged Venus, wasn't that the match where she said something like Kim was played horrible and at some point of the match she dropped to her level and that was how she won? I think she said something like that.

yep, if I remember correctly she said "she was playing terribly and somewhere in that second set I realized I was playing as bad as her...and couldnt come out of it" That match surely was ugly to see...

Tennisstar86
Aug 28th, 2009, 04:09 AM
No that was the match in Stanford.

no it was definately the US OPEN..... Probably one of the worse displays by two elite players ever.. right along side Kuznettsova def. Chakvetdazki 2007

Slammer7
Aug 28th, 2009, 04:16 AM
no it was definately the US OPEN..... Probably one of the worse displays by two elite players ever.. right along side Kuznettsova def. Chakvetdazki 2007

The 1st set was very clean from Venus the rest was awful from both. :(

Roookie
Aug 28th, 2009, 04:44 AM
Great draw. But the winner is comming from the top half as it is the toughest one by far. i've seen no williams sisters fan complaining this time BTW .

V's a star
Aug 28th, 2009, 04:59 AM
The 1st set was very clean from Venus the rest was awful from both. :(

its def top 3 worst loses. Along with last years QF

Richie's
Aug 28th, 2009, 08:28 AM
Section 9 :help:

Richie's
Aug 28th, 2009, 08:31 AM
I will gonna bet on Ivanovic!!!

terjw
Aug 28th, 2009, 03:46 PM
I think that would be exciting. I think that lost to Kim really bugged Venus, wasn't that the match where she said something like Kim played horrible and at some point of the match she dropped to her level and that was how she won? I think she said something like that.

Yep as her excuse she said Kim was playing kind of weird and bad and that was why she lost :lol::lol:

terjw
Aug 28th, 2009, 03:47 PM
No I think it was the match in Stanford.

No - the Stanford excuse was the sun was in her eyes. :lol::lol:

Slammer7
Aug 28th, 2009, 04:12 PM
No - the Stanford excuse was the sun was in her eyes. :lol::lol:

More like she was exhausted, she had won Wimbledon playing the longest final in history, then flew to Russia and played Fed Cup, did the some media before Fed Cup , played world team tennis, promoted her reality show, filmed an addendum to the reality show, flew cross country, had like 4 days off then played Stanford. She saved match point in the semis, right after that match she said she was tired. So the next day in the final where she led in the first set you could see she was clearly exhausted. She had a whirlwind month before that tournament so. :shrug: All credit to Kim for the win, but it was clear and quite understandable with all the activity I listed above ^ why Venus was tired and ran out of gas in that final. :p

miffedmax
Aug 28th, 2009, 04:22 PM
Borrowing from the world of soccer, I officially designate Lena "Bangs" Dementieva's quarter "The Group of Death."

terjw
Aug 28th, 2009, 04:54 PM
More like she was exhausted, she had won Wimbledon playing the longest final in history, then flew to Russia and played Fed Cup, did the some media before Fed Cup , played world team tennis, promoted her reality show, filmed an addendum to the reality show, flew cross country, had like 4 days off then played Stanford. She saved match point in the semis, right after that match she said she was tired. So the next day in the final where she led in the first set you could see she was clearly exhausted. She had a whirlwind month before that tournament so. :shrug: All credit to Kim for the win, but it was clear and quite understandable with all the activity I listed above ^ why Venus was tired and ran out of gas in that final. :p

OK I forgot the tired bit she mentioned:
"I was tired and the sun was in my eyes". :lol::lol:

starin
Aug 28th, 2009, 05:38 PM
Yep as her excuse she said Kim was playing kind of weird and bad and that was why she lost :lol::lol:

the funnier thing was people gave Venus a lot of shit for that and Kim said the exact same thing in the fall and no one said a thing. :drool: Hypocrisy at it's finest and I'm glad to see you carrying that grand tradition on.

terjw
Aug 28th, 2009, 07:31 PM
the funnier thing was people gave Venus a lot of shit for that and Kim said the exact same thing in the fall and no one said a thing. :drool: Hypocrisy at it's finest and I'm glad to see you carrying that grand tradition on.

Kim never cited her opponent as playing weird and bad as a reason for any of her losses.

Seyz
Aug 28th, 2009, 07:52 PM
This should be a fun US open.
Almost everyone is healthy.
We have the Serena, Venus, Sharapova, Clijsters, Mauresmo, JJ, Ivanovic, Dementieva, Kuznestsova, Safina , Dokic.. Lots of Big Names.
Won't be easy to win really.

I like JJ's Draw. She should be able to handily get through her draw and Beat Safina and hopefully make it to the semis and maybe the finals like last year. Another Serena V.s. JJ Final? Don't count it out! I think they are the two best players at the moment.

Temperenka
Aug 28th, 2009, 08:30 PM
I really like Vika's draw the more I look at it.

I will be rooting against the WS and Kim though... just to clear a nice path.. :lol:

Although, I think that she would be capable of beating Venus :shrug:

Serena is a different story though :lol:

Slammer7
Aug 28th, 2009, 08:59 PM
I really like Vika's draw the more I look at it.

I will be rooting against the WS and Kim though... just to clear a nice path.. :lol:

Although, I think that she would be capable of beating Venus :shrug:

Serena is a different story though :lol:

Vika got beaten pretty handily by Venus last year. Why do people think that if you can beat Serena or give her a hard time that means you can beat Venus? :scratch: They are different players and create different match up problems for different people. Serena lost to Dementieva last week where 3 weeks earlier Venus beat Dementieva 6-0 6-1. Serena had all kinds of issues with Capriati where Venus was 4-0 against her. Venus had a hard time with Davenport at times were Serena had a 10-4 record against her. Usually players that trouble one Williams don't trouble the other, even when we are talking about great players.

Temperenka
Aug 28th, 2009, 09:06 PM
Vika got beaten pretty handily by Venus last year. Why do people think that if you can beat Serena or give her a hard time that means you can beat Venus? :scratch: They are different players and create different match up problems for different people. Serena lost to Dementieva last week where 3 weeks earlier Venus beat Dementieva 6-0 6-1. Serena had all kinds of issues with Capriati where Venus was 4-0 against her. Venus had a hard time with Davenport at times were Serena had a 10-4 record against her. Usually players that trouble one Williams don't trouble the other, even when we are talking about great players.

Do you remember the Vika-Venus Olympic match? It was closer than the score and Vika was still a very raw player.

...and the reason I think she can beat Venus is because it is obvious that Venus is in dead awful form. Unlike Serena, she can't just flip on a switch when it comes to a slam (minus Wimbledon).

Galsen
Aug 28th, 2009, 09:20 PM
Venus last year and in 2007 had won her matches easily before QF and SF

Slammer7
Aug 28th, 2009, 09:29 PM
Do you remember the Vika-Venus Olympic match? It was closer than the score and Vika was still a very raw player.

...and the reason I think she can beat Venus is because it is obvious that Venus is in dead awful form. Unlike Serena, she can't just flip on a switch when it comes to a slam (minus Wimbledon).

So 3 and 2 should have been 5 and 4? Closer than the score is like basketball or golf you don't get extra points for being close. This awful form where she beat still Sharapova and Dementieva handily? She has a very good record at the U.S Open and has not lost to a player outside the top 5 there ever, but somehow I'm reading that she's gonna lose to Kanepi, Clijsters and now Azarenka? Venus wasn't exactly in great form at the Olympics last year and she blitzed through the field into the quarterfinals at the Open and served for both sets against Serena. But somehow she can't do that this year? Oh and what exact kind of form is Vika in right now? :scratch: Is it better than Venus' "dead awful form"?

Tennisstar86
Aug 28th, 2009, 09:30 PM
Do you remember the Vika-Venus Olympic match? It was closer than the score and Vika was still a very raw player.

...and the reason I think she can beat Venus is because it is obvious that Venus is in dead awful form. Unlike Serena, she can't just flip on a switch when it comes to a slam (minus Wimbledon).

Is it aweful form? the matches shes lost shes played superb tennis before looking a hot mess.... Venus beat the #1 and #4 players in the world in the past 2.5 months 6-0,6-1... Vikas game will not trouble Venus like it troubles Serena... She has a better chance against Serena... Its a better match up for her...And vika wasnt the player last year she is now? she looked a heck of a lot better last year than she does right now....

Slammer7
Aug 28th, 2009, 09:31 PM
Venus last year and in 2007 had won her matches easily before QF and SF

Exactly and the struggles were to JJ, Henin and Serena, not exactly scrubs those three.

Yorker
Aug 28th, 2009, 09:32 PM
callin the clijsters upset over venus, if it was wimbledon i'd say different, either way i hope that match is entertaining if they make it there, definitely a night match.

Tennisstar86
Aug 28th, 2009, 09:32 PM
So 3 and 2 should have been 5 and 4? Closer than the score is like basketball or golf you don't get extra points for being close. This awful form where she beat still Sharapova and Dementieva handily? She has a very good record at the U.S Open and has not lost to a player outside the top 5 there ever, but somehow I'm reading that she's gonna lose to Kanepi, Clijsters and now Azarenka? Venus wasn't exactly in great form at the Olympics last year and she blitzed through the field into the quarterfinals at the Open and served for both sets against Serena. But somehow she can't do that this year? Oh and what exact kind of form is Vika in right now? :scratch: Is it better than Venus' "dead awful form"?

by closer he means "competitive"... Maria has been competitive with Venus at Wimbledon each time shes gotten blitzed..... Does that mean she had a shot at winning? nope.....

Tennisstar86
Aug 28th, 2009, 09:34 PM
callin the clijsters upset over venus, if it was wimbledon i'd say different, either way i hope that match is entertaining if they make it there, definitely a night match.

I dont have faith that either one will get that far, but if they do, I dont think Clijsters will make it out of the 4th round....Theres too much pressure there for Clijsters to do well and we all know she doesnt handle pressure well. I think Bartoli will take her out

Slammer7
Aug 28th, 2009, 09:44 PM
by closer he means "competitive"... Maria has been competitive with Venus at Wimbledon each time shes gotten blitzed..... Does that mean she had a shot at winning? nope.....

Sarcasm. ;)

starin
Aug 28th, 2009, 10:22 PM
Kim never cited her opponent as playing weird and bad as a reason for any of her losses.
You're right she didn't give that as a reason for why she lost a match but she did give it as a reason for why she lost a set and almost lost a match which imo is the same thing cuz in both cases both are blaming their poor play on the "weird/poor play" of their opponents. But I guess cuz Kim said it it's "a-okay".

Do you remember the Vika-Venus Olympic match? It was closer than the score and Vika was still a very raw player.

...and the reason I think she can beat Venus is because it is obvious that Venus is in dead awful form. Unlike Serena, she can't just flip on a switch when it comes to a slam (minus Wimbledon).

If Venus plays as badly as she has during the summer she's not making it to the QF. And honestly I think Venus is a bad matchup for Azarenka much more so than Serena but then again I wouldn't think Flavia Pennetta would have a winning H2H over Venus and Bammer would have a perfect winning H2H against Serena so....

tennisforadults
Aug 28th, 2009, 11:15 PM
Completely disagree dude. Like the poster above pointed out, beating Venus and Serena in a Slam, and winning...near impossible. No one is "ready" to win a Slam by those standards.

My only point was I think this Slam would have been an excellent change for Vika to win, provided she got a good draw. Drawing Venus and Serena as early as possible....worst case scenario for ANYONE unless you're in Paris.

And obviously Slam QF's are good, I just think this is the perfect time for Azarenka to make a Semi or Final, and not slide into a consistent QF-losing player. If she got a draw, like Safina in the Quarters and Venus or ED in the Semis, then I'd say she has a good shot of making the final.

Well, Venus could be upset before the QF, like she did at AO. So Vika may end up just meeting Serena in SF, if she gets there.

Safina and ED are no easy opponents either. I'm not buying into the 'swap a WS for a non-WS' and Vika would have a chance argument. My point is just... if you want to be a grand slam winner, you better play damn well, well enough to beat everyone in your path to the crown.

And thanks to a previous poster for pointing out that Justine was the only one who beat both sisters to the crown. That's good to know!

Temperenka
Aug 29th, 2009, 01:59 AM
Is it aweful form? the matches shes lost shes played superb tennis before looking a hot mess.... Venus beat the #1 and #4 players in the world in the past 2.5 months 6-0,6-1... Vikas game will not trouble Venus like it troubles Serena... She has a better chance against Serena... Its a better match up for her...And vika wasnt the player last year she is now? she looked a heck of a lot better last year than she does right now....

Sorry, I didn't realize that losing to Kateyrna Bonrarenko most recently constitutes as 'good form.'

I really like Venus, don't get me wrong... but she hasn't been playing well and I don't have high hopes for her at the open.

I hope she proves me wrong.

Tennisstar86
Aug 29th, 2009, 02:27 AM
Sorry, I didn't realize that losing to Kateyrna Bonrarenko most recently constitutes as 'good form.'

I really like Venus, don't get me wrong... but she hasn't been playing well and I don't have high hopes for her at the open.

I hope she proves me wrong.

I dont have high hopes either, but your rational makes no sense... If Venus makes the semi's/ quarters... she will be playing well, so any venus Vika gets to play will be an in form Venus.... and I dont like her chances... Serena is a much better matchup for her... what you're saying is if Vika faces Venus in a quarter/ semi... she has a much better chance than she does against Serena... and I think you're wrong in that, as if Venus makes it that far she'll be in form and Serena is a better match up for her...

you say Venus cant just flip a switch and be in form? if she makes it to the quarters/semis she'd have played 4/5 matches to get in form..

Temperenka
Aug 29th, 2009, 02:46 AM
I dont have high hopes either, but your rational makes no sense... If Venus makes the semi's/ quarters... she will be playing well, so any venus Vika gets to play will be an in form Venus.... and I dont like her chances... Serena is a much better matchup for her... what you're saying is if Vika faces Venus in a quarter/ semi... she has a much better chance than she does against Serena... and I think you're wrong in that, as if Venus makes it that far she'll be in form and Serena is a better match up for her...

you say Venus cant just flip a switch and be in form? if she makes it to the quarters/semis she'd have played 4/5 matches to get in form..

Right, but you are also forgetting another piece of the puzzle yourself. You say that if Venus wins 4/5 matches in the tournament she will be in form.. and I don't think that is necessarily correct. Venus played a stunning Wimbledon (minus the final) and also destroyed Elena and Maria in Stanford before looking lost against Marion. Venus' mentality has been odd this year and I think Vika is a dangerous enough opponent (especially on hard) to take advantage of a clumsy looking Venus who could easily show up (even if she plays a great match against Kim in the previous round). :shrug:

I'm pretty confident that Vika will get to the quarters, and then it really depends on which Venus shows up (or if she shows up at all). Vera D. and Kim aren't players to look past. Both are much better than Kateryna Bondarenko. :shrug:

Venus is the biggest question mark in this major, in my opinion. She could lose R1 or win... which is a weird phenomenon.

Lacrish
Aug 29th, 2009, 07:01 AM
WOO~~ Potential 3rd round match against Kim
Come on,Jelena! :bounce:

Matt01
Aug 29th, 2009, 11:19 AM
Sorry, I didn't realize that losing to Kateyrna Bonrarenko most recently constitutes as 'good form.'



Well, it doesn't :lol:

Venus has lost 3 out of her last 4 matches.