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Blue-Eyed Soul
Aug 16th, 2009, 07:56 PM
If you don't know, 'Gay-for-pay' refers to STRAIGHT actors/models who perform in gay porn. In these scenes or movies they do it all - kissing, oral, anal.

You guys can comment if you like or just answer the poll. Thank you.

*A genuine straight guy. He may or may not have a girlfriend but he is through and through straight. When he's doing the gay porn he can just compartmentalize because he knows he'll be well paid for the scene he's doing, making more money in one day than he would for a month at some 9-5 job.

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Just Do It
Aug 16th, 2009, 08:02 PM
There are many str8 guys doing gay porn out there.

Haimar
Aug 16th, 2009, 08:04 PM
I once saw a Tyra Banks show about that on youtube, and I'm tend to believe that if you're really out of cash you would do it, but just to make some extra bucks, you should atleast be bi. But of course the porn industry needs these sort of 'straight' guys cause almost every gay man fantasizes about straight men having gay sex.

Blue-Eyed Soul
Aug 16th, 2009, 08:08 PM
I once saw a Tyra Banks show about that on youtube, and I'm tend to believe that if you're really out of cash you would do it, but just to make some extra bucks, you should atleast be bi. But of course the porn industry needs these sort of 'straight' guys cause almost every gay man fantasizes about straight men having gay sex.

Thanks. Just posted the Tyra Banks show Youtubes.

Haimar
Aug 16th, 2009, 09:28 PM
Thanks. Just posted the Tyra Banks show Youtubes.

It's funny to see again cause I think I saw one of them in a crappy movie somewhere :lol:

sakya23
Aug 16th, 2009, 10:15 PM
those straight guys who do this, believe a hole is a hole.

tenn_ace
Aug 16th, 2009, 10:17 PM
would love to know thheir screen names or studio :o

moby
Aug 16th, 2009, 11:10 PM
It's hard for me to believe Kurt Wild is straight, and not because he does gay porn and power-bottoms.
I guess I'm just totally relying on behavioural stereotypes here, but that's all I have to go on.

That's said, he's adorable, gorgeous, and it seems like he's thoughtful and has a great personality to boot.

P.S. The idea of straight/gay/etc. is sort of a construct anyway... so it's not like he has to justify his orientation or behaviour and I suppose he can choose to identify as whatever he wants to. Sexuality is complex.

Knizzle
Aug 16th, 2009, 11:11 PM
Those dudes like dudes. One of their girlfriends even said she thought so.

Kart
Aug 16th, 2009, 11:27 PM
This just illustrates how pointless it is to assume that all individuals fit into neat boxes where sexual orientation is concerned.

There's no reason why a gay man can't sleep with a woman if he finds her attractive. That doesn't make him straight.

The converse is true also.

young_gunner913
Aug 16th, 2009, 11:30 PM
lots of straight guys do porn, however many of the ones who are starting out on gay for pay sites, will find that its harder then they think (no pun intended ;)) to get into the porn business. i had a friend go to San Francisco to go do porn (he's bi) but he only did like 1 session got 250 bucks and that was it for a couple weeks. he got offered to do another shoot on a gay for pay site and went to go do that but he said it was such a bad experience and the guy he was paired with couldnt even keep a boner so they took him out and my friend did a solo session. he got like 100 bucks and it turns out they didnt use the footage on their site. soon he realized the porn industry is harder to get into then he and many people thought and moved back to the valley.

young_gunner913
Aug 16th, 2009, 11:32 PM
This just illustrates how pointless it is to assume that all individuals fit into neat boxes where sexual orientation is concerned.

There's no reason why a gay man can't sleep with a woman if he finds her attractive. That doesn't make him straight.

The converse is true also.

yes, there is a reason, HE'S GAY.

gay men, like to sleep with other men. thats what being gay is. if a gay man wants to go around sleeping with women he finds attractive, then he is a bisexual. even though many gay men have slept with a women "just to be sure", theres tons of gay men who find women absolutely gorgeous (Megan Fox :drool:) but would never touch that venus fly trap between their legs. :tape:

moby
Aug 16th, 2009, 11:59 PM
yes, there is a reason, HE'S GAY.

gay men, like to sleep with other men. thats what being gay is. if a gay man wants to go around sleeping with women he finds attractive, then he is a bisexual. even though many gay men have slept with a women "just to be sure", theres tons of gay men who find women absolutely gorgeous (Megan Fox :drool:) but would never touch that venus fly trap between their legs. :tape:Not everyone cares that much about genitalia.

I agree with Kart.

Kart
Aug 17th, 2009, 12:12 AM
yes, there is a reason, HE'S GAY.

gay men, like to sleep with other men. thats what being gay is. if a gay man wants to go around sleeping with women he finds attractive, then he is a bisexual. even though many gay men have slept with a women "just to be sure", theres tons of gay men who find women absolutely gorgeous (Megan Fox :drool:) but would never touch that venus fly trap between their legs. :tape:

You seem to get around the labelling of people as either gay or straight by adding an extra category for bisexual.

That's fair enough - I used to do it myself.

Nowadays though, I tend to favour the idea of people not labelling themselves as anything but seeing themselves more as fitting onto a spectrum.

IMHO it gets us away from stereotyping and feeling a need to justify why we're attracted to whoever we're attracted to.

I only watched the first clip here but that guy seems to be at pains to explain why he is 'straight.' I find the whole segment a non-issue. As long as he knows and can reconcile what he wants, he's probably already a step ahead of millions of men and women out there that are struggling to work out which category they're supposed to fit into.

That was the point of my post - it probably wasn't clear. I should have put inverted commas around 'straight' and 'gay.'

young_gunner913
Aug 17th, 2009, 12:14 AM
Not everyone cares that much about genitalia.

I agree with Kart.

but when it comes to gay men choosing a sexual partner, yes it does come down to genitalia because gay men like men. bisexual men, like men and women. kart is right saying that if a gay man wants to sleep with a woman, that doesnt make him straight, but chances are it means hes bisexual.

Apoleb
Aug 17th, 2009, 12:27 AM
Those "gay", "straight" and "bisexual" labels can hardly fully categorize sexual behavior. They are only useful for a rough description for people you're generally attracted to (sexually and emotionally). That's why I definitely imagine a "straight" man engaging gay sex for money, and the reverse is true. in And like moby said, they have become more of an identity thing.

Expat
Aug 17th, 2009, 12:42 AM
Engaging in gay sex is different than being gay. You can sleep only with girls and still be gay and you can sleep with guys and still be straight. Though its harder to see that straight people will "choose" to engage in gay sex than a gay guy who is trying to be straight to avoid societal pressure.
Many of us engaged in sex with girls or were virgins when we first acknowledged that we were gay. That didn't make us straight till then.

taevaughn
Aug 17th, 2009, 12:44 AM
i think theyre gay on the dl. thats their biz if thats what theyre into but the str8 dudes i know just wouldnt do any of that no matter if you gave them a million bucks.

égalité
Aug 17th, 2009, 01:07 AM
Sounds like a convenient way to be in the closet while still having sex with men. :weirdo:

In The Zone
Aug 17th, 2009, 01:10 AM
Sex is an action. It is not a reflection of a man's attractions. With all the products out there to stimulate a man's urges (and by urges, I mean his you know what), the man's personal attractions are meaningless.

I would also like to add that a man being comfortable with his sexuality does not mean he is not "straight". Straight men can engage in anal behavior (their own) and still be straight. A body is a body and does not reflect the desires within.

comfortably.numb
Aug 17th, 2009, 01:16 AM
Those "gay", "straight" and "bisexual" labels can hardly fully categorize sexual behavior. They are only useful for a rough description for people you're generally attracted to (sexually and emotionally). That's why I definitely imagine a "straight" man engaging gay sex for money, and the reverse is true. in And like moby said, they have become more of an identity thing.
I agree with this.

Expat
Aug 17th, 2009, 01:32 AM
Also in many non Western cultures (especially if there is strict segregation) there is a lot of same sex action because of a lack of access to vaginas before marriage. That doesn't make them gay.

Ilikebigboobies
Aug 17th, 2009, 01:33 AM
There is no way a truely straight man would engage if homo acts. NO WAY!!

égalité
Aug 17th, 2009, 01:35 AM
Also in many non Western cultures (especially if there is strict segregation) there is a lot of same sex action because of a lack of access to vaginas before marriage. That doesn't make them gay.

Yes, and most "gay for pay" actors (and most porn stars, probably) come from western cultures where same sex action typically happens because they're gay.

SV_Fan
Aug 17th, 2009, 01:50 AM
I might not understand half of this but this is an interesting topic.........

taevaughn
Aug 17th, 2009, 02:01 AM
Sex is an action. It is not a reflection of a man's attractions. With all the products out there to stimulate a man's urges (and by urges, I mean his you know what), the man's personal attractions are meaningless.

I would also like to add that a man being comfortable with his sexuality does not mean he is not "straight". Straight men can engage in anal behavior (their own) and still be straight. A body is a body and does not reflect the desires within.

i totally get what youre saying but if thats the case that str8 guys can have sex w/ other dudes then whats with all the gaybashing? at my colleges campus out in the sticks a blogger said he was beaten up by frat boys for being gay. thats why i cant believe a real str8 dude would have gay sex for money. if his crew found out that hed had sex with a guy theyd kick his ass.

taevaughn
Aug 17th, 2009, 02:02 AM
Sounds like a convenient way to be in the closet while still having sex with men. :weirdo:

:lol: yeah i think that also. :angel:

In The Zone
Aug 17th, 2009, 02:02 AM
i totally get what youre saying but if thats the case that str8 guys can have sex w/ other dudes then whats with all the gaybashing? at my colleges campus out in the sticks a blogger said he was beaten up by frat boys for being gay. thats why i cant believe a real str8 dude would have gay sex for money. if his crew found out that hed had sex with a guy theyd kick his ass.

That is social/peer pressure dictating behavior. That's not pure sexuality like in this case.

taevaughn
Aug 17th, 2009, 02:16 AM
That is social/peer pressure dictating behavior. That's not pure sexuality like in this case.

gotcha. :yeah: too bad str8 guys arent like str8 girls. the ones i know who are friends of mine have tried stuff with girls and just see it as an experiment and what not. by what you guys are talking about here it seems like str8 dudes will only try it w/ a guy for money.

moby
Aug 17th, 2009, 02:17 AM
but when it comes to gay men choosing a sexual partner, yes it does come down to genitalia because gay men like men.Umm... or they could be most attracted to male facial features or other secondary sexual characteristics. Genitalia is only one way of defining gender. Think of it this way. Suppose ceteris paribus, women have dicks and men have vaginas. Who would you be attracted to, if you had to pick one?
Those "gay", "straight" and "bisexual" labels can hardly fully categorize sexual behavior. They are only useful for a rough description for people you're generally attracted to (sexually and emotionally).Right. I use "gay" as a rough shorthand personally. Most people lie on a spectrum, and just find it necessary to refer to words like gay, straight or bisexual when communicating their sexuality. And then there's pansexual, polysexual... etc... words which haven't even made it into mainstream conversations of sexuality, words which haven't been invented. People who are ignorant of these concepts may not even think to identify themselves as such and may simply look for the closest approximation, and then proceed to adapt their behaviour and thoughts to cohere with that adopted identity. I think there is some sort of argument for the weak Sapir-Whorf hypothesis here.

If you're 99.9% "straight", and 0.1% "gay", does that make you "bisexual"? (Just assume for a moment that we can quantify sexuality by percentages.) Is a man who is attracted only to other men less "gay", if he is also attracted to trans-men (FTM transexuals) who lack the typical male genitalia?

Any definition must include a range of possibilities, or it would be too specific to be generally applicable. However, this also makes labels vague.
Yes, and most "gay for pay" actors (and most porn stars, probably) come from western cultures where same sex action typically happens because they're gay.Gay porn pays 10 times better than straight porn, according to those Tyra Banks clips. If you're doing porn in the first place, then I doubt sexual pleasure is your top priority. The whole process of porn is pretty stressful, unless you're an exhibitionist, in which case the idea of performing can be a turn-on in itself. Porn is a job, and I'm sure money is key. If straight porn paid 10 times better, then I'm sure there will be gay men who are "straight for pay". Just look as all the lesbian scenes in straight porn - I'm sure many of those women identify as straight in real life. (... which is again, different from saying they cannot be turned on by other women at all. Perhaps they are just not emotionally drawn to other women.)

Of course, I imagine there are closeted gay guys who pretend to be "gay for pay", but I don't think that necessarily has to be the case for all of them.

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In The Zone
Aug 17th, 2009, 02:31 AM
gotcha. :yeah: too bad str8 guys arent like str8 girls. the ones i know who are friends of mine have tried stuff with girls and just see it as an experiment and what not. by what you guys are talking about here it seems like str8 dudes will only try it w/ a guy for money.

Well, that's the point of this specific thread. :p But I totally agree with you and with what other posters have been saying. I don't view sexuality as this idea with strict categories. The typical straight man does due to social pressures and that's where the "bashing" comes in.

Kworb
Aug 17th, 2009, 02:31 AM
If a guy can stick it into a vagina and stay aroused throughout without closing his eyes and thinking of another guy then he is straight/bisexual.

The labels aren't confusing at all. Also who you are attracted to "emotionally" is nonsense. The difference in brain between men and women is too vague. There are men with a very "feminine" personality and thought process and vice versa.

I do think there are some straight guys in gay porn. I mean it's money. People do all kinds of stuff if you offer them enough money.

égalité
Aug 17th, 2009, 02:32 AM
You can't compare straight women who do lesbian porn to straight men who do gay porn. One of those is way more socially acceptable.

Lin Lin
Aug 17th, 2009, 02:39 AM
:speakles:

Dominic
Aug 17th, 2009, 03:37 AM
i totally get what youre saying but if thats the case that str8 guys can have sex w/ other dudes then whats with all the gaybashing? at my colleges campus out in the sticks a blogger said he was beaten up by frat boys for being gay. thats why i cant believe a real str8 dude would have gay sex for money. if his crew found out that hed had sex with a guy theyd kick his ass.

Haha not all hetero guys are retarded me thinks. Can I meet those guys youre talking about, I would gladly kick their asses then rape them. Sorry Im a bit vulgar but that really gets me going.

SM
Aug 17th, 2009, 04:44 AM
I dont get it, its not like its easy to get 'hard' so to speak if you arent attracted AT ALL to the other sex....let alone in front of a camera and (millions) potential viewers

skanky~skanketta
Aug 17th, 2009, 06:36 AM
Sounds like a convenient way to be in the closet while still having sex with men. :weirdo:
That's ridiculous. Most men don't come out because they dont want people to see them with another man. The gay-for-pay dudes are fucking men in front of you face, so I don't see how they're in the closet. More like closetted straight.

égalité
Aug 17th, 2009, 06:46 AM
That's ridiculous. Most men don't come out because they dont want people to see them with another man. The gay-for-pay dudes are fucking men in front of you face, so I don't see how they're in the closet. More like closetted straight.

Being in the closet is WAY more about not having romantic relationship with men than it is about having sex with men. Nobody who's in the closet can deny that they're sexually attracted to the same sex. That's the reason they're in the closet in the first place. What they can do, however, is deny themselves the happiness of being in a relationship with someone of the same sex. That is a commitment and an affirmation of one's sexuality that a one-time sexual encounter can't even come close to. Anyone can screw a guy on film for money and get his "fix" and then go home to his wife and kids, but coming out to the point where you can go home to your boyfriend and kids takes a level of self-acceptance that clearly these gay-for-pay actors don't have.

skanky~skanketta
Aug 17th, 2009, 06:50 AM
Being in the closet is WAY more about not having romantic relationship with men than it is about having sex with men. Nobody who's in the closet can deny that they're sexually attracted to the same sex. What they can do, however, is deny themselves the happiness of being in a relationship with someone of the same sex. Anyone can screw a guy on film for money and get his "fix" and then go home to his wife and kids, but coming out to the point where you can go home to your boyfriend and kids takes a level of self-acceptance that clearly these gay-for-pay actors don't have. This is what happens when you're not a gay man. I have no comebacks. :o

I always thought it was the whole "I cant be seen with another man" issue.

égalité
Aug 17th, 2009, 06:59 AM
This is what happens when you're not a gay man. I have no comebacks. :o

I always thought it was the whole "I cant be seen with another man" issue.

Well I mean that's just my take on it, having gone through it and stuff :lol:

I mean it's possible that there are some REAL gay for pay actors out there who are just abnormally comfortable with their sexuality, but maybe that's like 5% of all actors who claim to be gay for pay. :tape:

Expat
Aug 17th, 2009, 08:27 AM
@insectosauras

I think you are missing the point here. Being gay and having gay (i.e anal) sex are 2 different things. One could be straight and enjoy having anal sex and vice versa.

égalité
Aug 17th, 2009, 08:33 AM
@insectosauras

I think you are missing the point here. Being gay and having gay (i.e anal) sex are 2 different things. One could be straight and enjoy having anal sex and vice versa.

Obviously. I don't think that contradicts my post. :shrug:

The only reason someone would engage in long-term (I'm not talking about experimentation, I'm talking about a career or a relationship) sexual relations with the gender that they're not attracted to is because they feel some sort of pressure to do it. And I don't think anyone feels any pressure from society or family or friends or the media to be gay.

Ellen Dawson
Aug 17th, 2009, 08:50 AM
People do all kinds of stuff if you offer them enough money.

I don't know about that. For example, I don't see Lin Lin, among others, leaving tennisforum.com (never to return) even if you offered them a billion dollars. :tape:

That's ridiculous. Most men don't come out because they dont want people to see them with another man. The gay-for-pay dudes are fucking men in front of you face, so I don't see how they're in the closet. More like closetted straight.

They're closeted because they're using the employment to mask their true sexuality i.e. "I'm not gay; I just do them boys because it's part of my job". ;) It's a good hustle for a closet case because they get to f*ck guys that look like (insert your hottie e.g. Zac Efron, etc) AND maintain the charade of being "straight". :tape:

Expat
Aug 17th, 2009, 09:08 AM
Obviously. I don't think that contradicts my post. :shrug:

The only reason someone would engage in long-term (I'm not talking about experimentation, I'm talking about a career or a relationship) sexual relations with the gender that they're not attracted to is because they feel some sort of pressure to do it. And I don't think anyone feels any pressure from society or family or friends or the media to be gay.

The topic discusses for pay . How different is it from a prostitute sleeping with guys she has no desire to sleep with? She is interested in the money not his smell his fat body or his ugly skin. society doesn't want you to be a prostitute either. And prostitution can be a short term one night thing or a long term career

Nemo_Kool
Aug 17th, 2009, 12:02 PM
Money motivates people to do loads of things, why so different for gay porn?

youizahoe
Aug 17th, 2009, 02:01 PM
All of those gay for pay actors are gay, don't get fooled, it's a marketing trick. My porn star friend asked me once if I could be a straight guy that wanted to be fucked so bad. For $2500. Didn't do it though :lol:

égalité
Aug 17th, 2009, 02:31 PM
The topic discusses for pay . How different is it from a prostitute sleeping with guys she has no desire to sleep with? She is interested in the money not his smell his fat body or his ugly skin. society doesn't want you to be a prostitute either. And prostitution can be a short term one night thing or a long term career

Oh my God, prostitution is SO DIFFERENT :help: People generally turn to prostitution as a last resort. Gay porn actors probably make as much money in a night as most prostitutes do in a couple of months.

Scotso
Aug 17th, 2009, 02:44 PM
Sex is an action. It is not a reflection of a man's attractions. With all the products out there to stimulate a man's urges (and by urges, I mean his you know what), the man's personal attractions are meaningless.

There are a lot of ideas in this thread I'm open to, but this isn't one of them. Maybe I'm different, but if I find someone disgustingly unattractive, there is no way I could have sex with them. I wouldn't be able to get an erection. Personal attractions are probably the most meaningful thing where sex is concerned.

On some level these "gay for pay" people are turned on by what they're doing or they wouldn't be doing it.

Scotso
Aug 17th, 2009, 02:46 PM
Oh my God, prostitution is SO DIFFERENT :help: People generally turn to prostitution as a last resort. Gay porn actors probably make as much money in a night as most prostitutes do in a couple of months.

Uhm, no. They don't make that much money. Didn't you see that thread about Kurt Wild working at Subway?

And porn is just legalized prostitution. It's trading sex for money, there's no difference.

dawid
Aug 17th, 2009, 02:47 PM
All of those gay for pay actors are gay, don't get fooled, it's a marketing trick. My porn star friend asked me once if I could be a straight guy that wanted to be fucked so bad. For $2500. Didn't do it though :lol:

I can't imagine you as a straight boy :angel:

Scotso
Aug 17th, 2009, 02:51 PM
All of those gay for pay actors are gay, don't get fooled, it's a marketing trick. My porn star friend asked me once if I could be a straight guy that wanted to be fucked so bad. For $2500. Didn't do it though :lol:

I might have believed you until I read the last bit.

Expat
Aug 17th, 2009, 02:57 PM
Oh my God, prostitution is SO DIFFERENT :help: People generally turn to prostitution as a last resort. Gay porn actors probably make as much money in a night as most prostitutes do in a couple of months.

O rly! Most people who do porn except for the superstars get paid very little and they are more desperate than prostitutes IMO because they are letting the whole world see them in their sexual acts tearing apart every shred of privacy that they have. A prostitute could go back to relative anonymity but no such thing exists for a porn star. I live in LA. Here every summer we see a new batch of wannabe stars / waiters who end up as rent boys 2 years down the line.

égalité
Aug 17th, 2009, 03:00 PM
Uhm, no. They don't make that much money. Didn't you see that thread about Kurt Wild working at Subway?

And porn is just legalized prostitution. It's trading sex for money, there's no difference.

Oh yeah, I know Kurt Wild. If he were really acting that enjoyment he shows, he'd be winning Oscars instead of getting fucked in the ass on film.

And it is absolutely different from prostitution because with (gay) porn you are practically guaranteed to have sex with people you're attracted to.

I might have believed you until I read the last bit.

:sobbing: at this

Freakan
Aug 17th, 2009, 03:36 PM
The first guy is just so dumb :eek: Miss South Carolina could be his teacher :o

Joana
Aug 17th, 2009, 04:04 PM
It's interesting. I hadn't heard of this phenomenon.
Identifying yourself as straight and having sex with men for the world to see sounds like a contradiction to me.

G-Ha
Aug 17th, 2009, 07:06 PM
I, too, believe sexuality is on a continuum, but the guys in these clips and others in the industry who identify as "gay-for-pay" insist that they are 100% straight. Sure, there are people who will do anything for money, so I don't think it impossible that there are "straight" guys in gay porn. However, in order to get and maintain a hard on, these guys would either have to have excellent imaginations or some level of attraction to men and I'm guessing for most, it's the latter.

In The Zone
Aug 17th, 2009, 07:12 PM
There are a lot of ideas in this thread I'm open to, but this isn't one of them. Maybe I'm different, but if I find someone disgustingly unattractive, there is no way I could have sex with them. I wouldn't be able to get an erection. Personal attractions are probably the most meaningful thing where sex is concerned.

On some level these "gay for pay" people are turned on by what they're doing or they wouldn't be doing it.

There are pills, hormones, and products that help these men. There was even a True Life: I'm a Porn Star and one of the men did gay porn and was straight. He gave a list of all the products he had to take before beginning a scene.

Of course, this one man is not indicative of everyone.

Apoleb
Aug 17th, 2009, 07:53 PM
The labels aren't confusing at all. Also who you are attracted to "emotionally" is nonsense. The difference in brain between men and women is too vague. There are men with a very "feminine" personality and thought process and vice versa.

I can't see the relation between those two thoughts. How do supposed differences between male and female brains have anything to do with the validity of the concept of emotional attraction?

The romantic/sexual attraction is probably another rough division, but it isn't entirely irrelevant. A man could possibly enjoy oral/anal sex with another man, but could also only develop romantic feelings for a woman. And the reverse is true.

It all boils down to sexual behavior being way too complex to be explained in stringent categories that are very predictive of someone's sexual feelings/behavior. On top of some biological factors, social constructs play a big role, and reward motivators like money.

Mrs. Berasetegui
Aug 18th, 2009, 02:09 AM
Oh yeah, I know Kurt Wild. If he were really acting that enjoyment he shows, he'd be winning Oscars instead of getting fucked in the ass on film.

And it is absolutely different from prostitution because with (gay) porn you are practically guaranteed to have sex with people you're attracted to.

That's not true. There are guys (from Randy Blue, Sean Cody, Chaos Men, Sean Cody, take your pick) that are limp dicked through a lot of it. You guys it's just a job and they get paid nicely for it so why should it matter if they're gay or straight? Dawson from CF has a 'vette and a beachouse in Port Richey so it pays better than you guys think. Kurt and Chris Tanzi (Josh at CF) were both at Subway then they left when they got hired at CF.

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 18th, 2009, 02:19 AM
O rly! Most people who do porn except for the superstars get paid very little and they are more desperate than prostitutes IMO because they are letting the whole world see them in their sexual acts tearing apart every shred of privacy that they have. A prostitute could go back to relative anonymity but no such thing exists for a porn star. I live in LA. Here every summer we see a new batch of wannabe stars / waiters who end up as rent boys 2 years down the line.

It's interesting that you feel this way because my workout buddy has a 11" dick and he escorts on the side and feels that way when it comes to porn.
You can always build a small clientele with discreetness when it comes to escorting.
But you can't do the same once your face and body is in a magazine or porn website.

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 18th, 2009, 02:23 AM
Uhm, no. They don't make that much money. Didn't you see that thread about Kurt Wild working at Subway?

And porn is just legalized prostitution. It's trading sex for money, there's no difference.

Shorty J (if you watch gay black porn, you know who he is) worked at a KFC for years.
He did not like the attention he got from the ****s while working there.

Brett.
Aug 18th, 2009, 03:05 AM
Wow, i find this thread very interesting because i learned a lot of things.

What would you say if a guy who is physically attracted to men but not sexually attracted to men, and is sexually attracted to women but not physically attracted to women?

~Eclipsed~
Aug 18th, 2009, 03:08 AM
That's not true. There are guys (from Randy Blue, Sean Cody, Chaos Men, Sean Cody, take your pick) that are limp dicked through a lot of it. You guys it's just a job and they get paid nicely for it so why should it matter if they're gay or straight? Dawson from CF has a 'vette and a beachouse in Port Richey so it pays better than you guys think. Kurt and Chris Tanzi (Josh at CF) were both at Subway then they left when they got hired at CF.

This isn't a good example. Dawson does a lot of porn (both gay and straight) so i'd hope that he makes a nice income by now.

I'd think that the majority of the gay for pay guys don't do as much as porn as someone like Dawson. Also, CF is a well known gay porn company with a small base of actors. I'm sure most gay porn companies can't pay as much as CF does.

~Eclipsed~
Aug 18th, 2009, 03:10 AM
Wow, i find this thread very interesting because i learned a lot of things.

What would you say if a guy who is physically attracted to men but not sexually attracted to men, and is sexually attracted to women but not physically attracted to women?

:lol: Do you mean being sexually attracted vs. being emotionally attracted?

Sexually attracted and physically attracted are pretty much the same thing.

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 18th, 2009, 03:11 AM
Wow, i find this thread very interesting because i learned a lot of things.

What would you say if a guy who is physically attracted to men but not sexually attracted to men, and is sexually attracted to women but not physically attracted to women?

We have ourselves the typical drag queen or tranny lover.

Brett.
Aug 18th, 2009, 03:19 AM
:lol: Do you mean being sexually attracted vs. being emotionally attracted?

Sexually attracted and physically attracted are pretty much the same thing.

Someone mentioned that he found a guy who is incredibly HOT with hot body but wouldn't touch him at all, and he usually find a girl who is incredibly ugly but would fuck her all night.

~Eclipsed~
Aug 18th, 2009, 03:24 AM
Someone mentioned that he found a guy who is incredibly HOT with hot body but wouldn't touch him at all, and he usually find a girl who is incredibly ugly but would fuck her all night.

Hmmm interesting. I didn't really know such a thing existed. Personally, I could not imagine ever feeling the same way.

LudwigDvorak
Aug 18th, 2009, 03:37 AM
Shorty J's dick is colossal. He deserves to be as far away from KFC as possible.

I hate seeing limp-dicked bottoms in videos. It's so obvious they're not into it. :shrug: Though I guess the limp-dicked tops are worse, who have to work to stay hard WHILE they're inside someone. Just awful.

I think a guy would do gay porn if he were straight. Then again, I would never touch a woman if I had any say so in the matter. That's just me though. Men just like to fuck, for the most part.

Mrs. Berasetegui
Aug 18th, 2009, 09:28 PM
This isn't a good example. Dawson does a lot of porn (both gay and straight) so i'd hope that he makes a nice income by now.

I'd think that the majority of the gay for pay guys don't do as much as porn as someone like Dawson. Also, CF is a well known gay porn company with a small base of actors. I'm sure most gay porn companies can't pay as much as CF does.

My friend met Dawson and Logan and they told my friend that CF pays well but so do does Randy Blue, Chaos Men and Sean Cody. Of course like you said you have to do a lot of updates like Dawson does but it can pay well if the fans on each site like you and send requests to see you more.

Mrs. Berasetegui
Aug 18th, 2009, 09:30 PM
Someone mentioned that he found a guy who is incredibly HOT with hot body but wouldn't touch him at all, and he usually find a girl who is incredibly ugly but would fuck her all night.

That guys is mad straight. He's secure enough to admit another guy's hot but when it comes to the pootang he doesn't care what size she is. Nothing strange about it. He's just a straight guy who's secure with being straight. :)