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Caillou
Aug 1st, 2009, 04:59 AM
The match being played tonight doesn't have ad scoring? Does someone know why?

Amalgamate
Aug 1st, 2009, 05:04 AM
I have no idea why, but it's repulsive.

Caillou
Aug 1st, 2009, 05:08 AM
Maybe both teams agreed because its already 9pm there?

Amalgamate
Aug 1st, 2009, 05:10 AM
They can do that? But they stepped on court before 9.

Uranium
Aug 1st, 2009, 05:17 AM
New rules for doubles for a year or so now :/ maybe two even.
And no third set, championship tiebreakr

:lol:, people need to pay attention to doubles more. I think it started in the summer of 2007 right?

AJZ.
Aug 1st, 2009, 05:18 AM
New rules for doubles for a year or so now :/ maybe two even.
And no third set, championship tiebreakr

Amalgamate
Aug 1st, 2009, 05:20 AM
New rules for doubles for a year or so now :/ maybe two even.
And no third set, championship tiebreakr

I knew about the third set 10 point TB, but had no idea about No-Ad scoring. I'm appalled:o

Nikkiri
Aug 1st, 2009, 05:22 AM
:lol:, people need to pay attention to doubles more. I think it started in the summer of 2007 right?

Srsly :lol:

KanSuke
Aug 1st, 2009, 05:26 AM
God :lol:

Dave.
Aug 1st, 2009, 12:36 PM
:lol:, people need to pay attention to doubles more. I think it started in the summer of 2007 right?

Exactly! Come on people :o


I still don't like it one bit.

Shvedbarilescu
Aug 1st, 2009, 12:54 PM
I knew about the third set 10 point TB, but had no idea about No-Ad scoring. I'm appalled:o

Yeah, its been going on now 2 and a half years. And you know what? Two and a half years after 1st seeing it in action, I'm still appalled.

SVK
Aug 1st, 2009, 01:50 PM
:spit:

btw. stupid rule:o

Caillou
Aug 1st, 2009, 05:16 PM
ooooooook, yea sorry people, I had no idea. Coupled with the fact that the announcer for the tournament said something which implied it was a new rule. That's very strange, at least it doesn't apply to the grand slams...yes :S

darrinbaker00
Aug 1st, 2009, 05:26 PM
ooooooook, yea sorry people, I had no idea. Coupled with the fact that the announcer for the tournament said something which implied it was a new rule. That's very strange, at least it doesn't apply to the grand slams...yes :S
Actually, they do it for mixed doubles everywhere but Wimbledon. On the deciding point, you serve to the same gender on the other side (the man serves to the man, the woman serves to the woman).

Archer16
Aug 1st, 2009, 09:54 PM
Actually, they do it for mixed doubles everywhere but Wimbledon. On the deciding point, you serve to the same gender on the other side (the man serves to the man, the woman serves to the woman).
I didn't know about this last bit.
And sadly until the top singles players take doubles again and raise back public interest, which is extremely unlikely, these two (No-ad and STB) horrific rules won't change. :fiery:

ce
Aug 1st, 2009, 10:04 PM
:rolls:

Caillou
Aug 2nd, 2009, 02:49 AM
Actually, they do it for mixed doubles everywhere but Wimbledon. On the deciding point, you serve to the same gender on the other side (the man serves to the man, the woman serves to the woman).

Interesting...thanks for the info.

darrinbaker00
Aug 2nd, 2009, 04:40 AM
I didn't know about this last bit.
And sadly until the top singles players take doubles again and raise back public interest, which is extremely unlikely, these two (No-ad and STB) horrific rules won't change. :fiery:
Actually, they made the changes primarily for that reason. The ATP figured that if they made the doubles matches shorter, more top singles players would enter doubles draws.

Caillou
Aug 2nd, 2009, 05:07 AM
Oh really??? has it worked at all?? this is an honest question? i dont keep up with doubles outside venus/serena

Archer16
Aug 2nd, 2009, 03:15 PM
Actually, they made the changes primarily for that reason. The ATP figured that if they made the doubles matches shorter, more top singles players would enter doubles draws.
I've never heard this reasoning. For all I know they made it to get it over with as quickly as possible - no spectators, no media, no interest from the general public (you can also see this trend here - compare debate over singles matches to doubles), so the ATP and WTA couldn't care less either.
Of course their actions only cement the current state of things. It reminds me of a certain Israeli sports federation who decided to cancel the U20 championships due to lack of participants, instead of making an effort to draw more players into action. Of course after a few years the situation has only got worse.

CoryAnnAvants#1
Aug 2nd, 2009, 05:08 PM
Oh really??? has it worked at all?? this is an honest question? i dont keep up with doubles outside venus/serena
On the women's side, it definitely has worked. 7 of the women inside the top 10 have won doubles events this year, and everyone in the top 10 has played at least one doubles event. The men at the top of the rankings play doubles more infrequently, but Federer and Nadal have each played a few doubles events this year.

However, it hasn't done anything in the promotion of doubles, which was the whole point. The Tennis Channel does a good job of showing it on TV, but at least in the States, even the Grand Slam finals aren't shown unless it's the Williams Sisters playing...you'll get the match point if you're lucky. Most of the fans still aren't clued in to the changes in scoring either, over two years later.

The one good thing that it's done is dispel the myth that all the top singles players had to do is walk on court in order to sweep all the doubles events. You might see top singles players win a doubles title here and there, but they're definitely not dominating every week and lose most of the matches against doubles specialists. Obviously V & S have won two of the Grand Slams this year, but they're the exception to pretty much every rule in tennis.

paul_masterton
Aug 4th, 2009, 08:44 PM
Also at deuce the receiving team chose which side the server serves to. So its total pot luck

Michael.
Aug 4th, 2009, 11:56 PM
i like the no ad scoring . it makes match go by quicker .

KoOlMaNsEaN
Aug 5th, 2009, 12:00 AM
I hate it. I think it's a joke and a slap in the face to doubles players

Keegan
Aug 6th, 2009, 06:09 AM
At least they still have let serves. That is an awful rule.

pwayne
Aug 6th, 2009, 01:02 PM
They need to do either no ad scoring and have the 3rd set played instead of the supertiebreak or have the supertiebreak and get rid of the no ad scoring. Having the supertiebreaker and no ad scoring together is ridiculous.

Michael.
Aug 6th, 2009, 04:34 PM
they need to get rid of one of them .

The Witch-king
Aug 6th, 2009, 06:33 PM
They need to do either no ad scoring and have the 3rd set played instead of the supertiebreak or have the supertiebreak and no ad scoring. Having the supertiebreaker and no ad scoring is ridiculous.

i don't mind the tie break but the no ad is just confusing. It reminds me of World Team Tennis.

darrinbaker00
Aug 6th, 2009, 07:39 PM
They need to do either no ad scoring and have the 3rd set played instead of the supertiebreak or have the supertiebreak and get rid of the no ad scoring. Having the supertiebreaker and no ad scoring together is ridiculous.
Why?

Caillou
Aug 6th, 2009, 09:01 PM
Why?

It completely changes the game. Having personal experience having reduced sets/no ad scoring, it definetely makes it a different game.