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Just Do It
Jul 16th, 2009, 12:24 PM
Only 3 players inside top 100 played more than her.
Everyone was bagging on JJ for playing many tournaments but no one is mentioning Caroline now.
She also has 29 tournaments played in 52 weeks ( Only Mayer is in front of her - 35 tournaments :tape: )

No wonder she is top 10 :rolleyes:

Andreas
Jul 16th, 2009, 12:25 PM
Your point being?

Only 3 players inside top 100 played more than her.
Everyone was bagging on JJ for playing many tournaments but no one is mentioning Caroline now.
She also has 29 tournaments played in 52 weeks ( Only Mayer is in front of her - 35 tournaments :tape: )

No wonder she is top 10 :rolleyes:

Suuuuuuuure :tape:

Everyone gets the same number of tournaments counted and what is wrong with being motivated and wanting to do the thing you enjoy the most?

*Jean*
Jul 16th, 2009, 12:26 PM
Sure! It's not a surprise to see her so high in the rankings and in the Race. :o

Just Do It
Jul 16th, 2009, 12:26 PM
Your point being?

That she should play less. Jelena made the same mistake last year and she is paying for it now. Thank God she isn't playing that much this year :o

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jul 16th, 2009, 12:26 PM
Dont critisize Caro!! She has just finished playing on her worst surfaces .

Andreas
Jul 16th, 2009, 12:28 PM
That she should play less. Jelena made the same mistake last year and she is paying for it now. Thank God she isn't playing that much this year :o

Really? It seems to be more in the direction of: Jelena was treated so unfairly and Caro wasn't :( (and actually, it has been mentioned 1000 times)

Pretty useless thread.

Marcelo.
Jul 16th, 2009, 12:37 PM
Dont critisize Caro!! She has just finished playing on her worst surfaces .

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Just Do It
Jul 16th, 2009, 12:37 PM
Really? It seems to be more in the direction of: Jelena was treated so unfairly and Caro wasn't :( (and actually, it has been mentioned 1000 times)

Pretty useless thread.

Then why bothering posting in it ?

Slutiana
Jul 16th, 2009, 12:39 PM
Dont critisize Caro!! She has just finished playing on her worst surfaces .
:hysteric:

Andreas
Jul 16th, 2009, 12:40 PM
Then why bothering posting in it ?

To explain you what a shit thread you made :speakles:

Petkorazzi
Jul 16th, 2009, 12:40 PM
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:sobbing: Giggle Clubbing! :music:

Golovinjured.
Jul 16th, 2009, 12:47 PM
She's EVERYWHERE! :unsure:

Just Do It
Jul 16th, 2009, 12:48 PM
She's EVERYWHERE! :unsure:

I know how we are bitching she plays EVERY tournament Dokic enters :(

delicatecutter
Jul 16th, 2009, 01:01 PM
She isn't playing for a couple of weeks at least. :shrug: I say, let's enjoy the vacation. :yeah:

Marionated
Jul 16th, 2009, 01:05 PM
Marion Bartoli is playing 5 tournaments before the US open :o

Caillou
Jul 16th, 2009, 01:10 PM
lol, well when she's in slumptoli mode, she losses early anyways?? As for caro, she her game reminds me of jelena, let alone entering lots of tournies.

BournemouthBoy
Jul 16th, 2009, 01:34 PM
she hasnt played that ,many, your getting her mixed in with wozniak results. Anyway JJ made world no.1, worth playing at for imo!

Mahon_Lorcan
Jul 16th, 2009, 01:36 PM
Incredible, she don't play in the next tournaments..

LudwigDvorak
Jul 16th, 2009, 01:40 PM
Good, I guess. :shrug: More losses for her haters to eat up like candy, bar her not facing any top 15/20 players.

CloudAtlas
Jul 16th, 2009, 01:44 PM
I do wish people have some sort of clue about the rankings before making threads like these. They count the same number of tournaments for each player in determining their rank + race place which to my knoledge is currently 16 , so the amount of tournaments she plays do not have a significant effect on her rankings.

joćo.
Jul 16th, 2009, 01:45 PM
Duh.

BournemouthBoy
Jul 16th, 2009, 01:52 PM
I do wish people have some sort of clue about the rankings before making threads like these. They count the same number of tournaments for each player in determining their rank + race place which to my knoledge is currently 16 , so the amount of tournaments she plays do not have a significant effect on her rankings.

yes but the more tournements the better your chances of a number of high finishes, now if they took the average maybe some would slow down a bit.

CloudAtlas
Jul 16th, 2009, 01:54 PM
yes but the more tournements the better your chances of a number of high finishes



Yeah you have a "better" chance but the OP seemed to imply that it was the only reason she was in the top 10. There are players who've played the same amount of tournaments as her and some have played even more and are nowhere near the top 10 :shrug:

C. Drone
Jul 16th, 2009, 01:58 PM
104 single match in the last 52 weeks? thats not so much. :spit:

BournemouthBoy
Jul 16th, 2009, 02:18 PM
i remember her saying about 6-8 months ago that in weeks where she played alot of matches she didn't practise at all

Jorn
Jul 16th, 2009, 02:22 PM
She now have 3 weeks rest and not playing in the first US tourny, so she can play more... ;)

A few more have 13-15 tournaments in the race.

Sharpie4me
Jul 16th, 2009, 02:26 PM
more chances to celebrate her losses :inlove:

дalex
Jul 16th, 2009, 02:35 PM
JJ in 2007 played 18 tourneys + FC. :angel:

She played much less this and last year (12 tourneys each year).

Caro :hug:

Beat
Jul 16th, 2009, 02:45 PM
No wonder she is top 10 :rolleyes:

i also find it slightly disturbing that she plays so much, but her top 10 position has certainly nothing to do with it.

SAEKeithSerena
Jul 16th, 2009, 02:46 PM
well she's young...


but looks like we've got another jankovic on our hands. with clearly, more talent though :) i like wozniacki a lot.

KournikovaFan91
Jul 16th, 2009, 02:52 PM
So what if she enters a lot of tournaments, she isn't breaking any rules.

I imagine it is just because she wants to make a break through. I bet she will play less next year.

sammy01
Jul 16th, 2009, 02:57 PM
theres 2 sides to it, i like players playing alot because they are supporting the tour, but playing a lot can distort the rankings.

as we have seen caro has taken advantage of some weak ass draws in tournaments, which will happen more often to her because she plays more tournaments.

im pretty sure she both wouldn't play as many tournaments and wouldn't be top 10 with the old system (pre '97), but the new one was put in place to encourage players to play more.

darrinbaker00
Jul 16th, 2009, 03:04 PM
Caroline Wozniacki is a professional tennis player. That means she plays tennis for money. The more tournaments she plays, the more money she earns. Next topic, please.

C. Drone
Jul 16th, 2009, 03:08 PM
So what if she enters a lot of tournaments, she isn't breaking any rules.


possible mental burnout and/or some chronic injury? :shrug:

lilimi
Jul 16th, 2009, 03:12 PM
i wish she'd play less before slams and reach a QF at GS instead :sad:

KournikovaFan91
Jul 16th, 2009, 03:18 PM
possible mental burnout and/or some chronic injury? :shrug:

That isn't what the haters have a problem with, they just don't like her high ranking.

StephenUK
Jul 16th, 2009, 03:20 PM
I think she is playing too much. Of course it makes sense to play 18 + events but this is way more; only Pennetta of top 20 players has more than 25 on her clock. It would not be as bad if she was a lower ranked player who was only winning a round or two every week but Caroline is in the top 10 and should be getting to quarters and beyond of every event.

If she does not get injured, she will get jaded and have a slump next year if she is not careful. She has had this pattern of getting so far in events and then petering out and losing to lower ranked players - this happened in all three slams, so it is definitely holding her back. That is the big difference between her and Azarenka at the moment. If she is going to move into the top 8, she needs to think more about quality than quantity from now on.

TennisMindCamp
Jul 16th, 2009, 03:23 PM
That's a lot of tennis! Best of luck to her.

Temperenka
Jul 16th, 2009, 03:39 PM
Caroline Wozniacki is a professional tennis player. That means she plays tennis for money. The more tournaments she plays, the more money she earns. Next topic, please.

This. She doesn't only earn money from her best 16 results, so by playing what seems like every week, she is really just intending to earn more money. She is playing well right now and taking advantage of it.

It might help her in the ranking a bit, but I don't really see that as the intention behind her scheduling decisions.

BTW... she is still behind Vika in the rankings, and Vika barely ever plays. So that ruins some of the arguments that the only reason she is in the Top 10 is by playing well. It is because she is consistent and can occasionally win tournaments that no one else seems to care about (Eastbourne).

I like Caroline's contribution to the tour.

Igor_Biscan
Jul 16th, 2009, 03:44 PM
I think she is playing too much. Of course it makes sense to play 18 + events but this is way more; only Pennetta of top 20 players has more than 25 on her clock. It would not be as bad if she was a lower ranked player who was only winning a round or two every week but Caroline is in the top 10 and should be getting to quarters and beyond of every event.

If she does not get injured, she will get jaded and have a slump next year if she is not careful. She has had this pattern of getting so far in events and then petering out and losing to lower ranked players - this happened in all three slams, so it is definitely holding her back. That is the big difference between her and Azarenka at the moment. If she is going to move into the top 8, she needs to think more about quality than quantity from now on.

I agree, I don't think it's good for her in the long run. Maybe she's just that enthusiastic and wants to play all the time but I think she needs to look more towards the long term, both in terms of injuries and the effect on her game in general.

Dodoboy.
Jul 16th, 2009, 03:45 PM
Caroline Wozniacki is a professional tennis player. That means she plays tennis for money. The more tournaments she plays, the more money she earns. Next topic, please.

For once your wholly rational approach is the best response. Would add that she is young and very fit, so she can handle it for now.

ZODIAC
Jul 16th, 2009, 04:56 PM
That she should play less. Jelena made the same mistake last year and she is paying for it now. Thank God she isn't playing that much this year :oWoz is young and has many years to learn proper scheduling whereas Jankovic is middle aged in tennis years.:tape:

The Dawntreader
Jul 16th, 2009, 04:58 PM
Beats sitting at home watching Jeremy Kyle:lol:

Sectumsempra
Jul 16th, 2009, 05:24 PM
Pretty useless thread.

Pretty useless player in your avatar

LDF
Jul 16th, 2009, 05:27 PM
Caroline Wozniacki is a professional tennis player. That means she plays tennis for money. The more tournaments she plays, the more money she earns. Next topic, please.

Yep, very good point. I personally don't mind seeing Wozniacki in all of these tournaments (as sammy pointed out it shows her commitment to the regular tour events), but I hope she doesn't burn herself out in the near future with such a relentless schedule.

Protoss
Jul 16th, 2009, 05:45 PM
Here's a list of the top 16 ranked players in order of points per tournament from the highest to the lowest:


1 Dinara Safina
2 Serena Williams
3 Venus Williams
4 Elena Dementieva
5 Svetlana Kuznetsova
6 Jelena Jankovic
7 Victoria Azarenka
8 Vera Zvonareva
9 Caroline Wozniacki
10 Ana Ivanovic
11 Nadia Petrova
12 Aga Radwanska (about 2.5 points per tournament seperate 12 & 13)
13 Marion Bartoli
14 Amelie Mauresmo
15 Dominika Cibulkova
16 Flavia Pennetta


Here's the same list excluding 0 point results:

1 Serena Williams
2 Dinara Safina
3 Venus Williams
4 Elena Dementieva
5 Svetlana Kuznetsova
6 Jelena Jankovic
7 Victoria Azarenka (about 1.3 points per tournament seperate 7 & 8)
8 Vera Zvonareva
9 Caroline Wozniacki
10 Ana Ivanovic
11 Nadia Petrova
12 Aga Radwanska (about 2.8 points per tournament seperate 12 & 15)
13 Dominika Cibulkova
14 Marion Bartoli
15 Amelie Mauresmo
16 Flavia Pennetta

Cakeisgood
Jul 16th, 2009, 06:16 PM
That she should play less. Jelena made the same mistake last year and she is paying for it now. Thank God she isn't playing that much this year :o

JJ playing too much= solid number 3 then eventual year end number 1

JJ playing too little= shit.

Just Do It
Jul 16th, 2009, 06:32 PM
JJ playing too much= solid number 3 then eventual year end number 1

JJ playing too little= shit.

Yeah, just that :lol:

sammy01
Jul 16th, 2009, 07:24 PM
Beats sitting at home watching Jeremy Kyle:lol:

i heard thats being canceled, say it aint so :sad:

darrinbaker00
Jul 16th, 2009, 07:40 PM
For once your wholly rational approach is the best response. Would add that she is young and very fit, so she can handle it for now.
Another thing is that the top eight finishers in the points race qualify for the Sony Ericsson Championships, and there is no "Best 16" for that; every point counts. Not only is she guaranteed a certain amount of prize money for that, but I'm sure she'll also get a bonus from her racquet and clothing sponsors.

LDF
Jul 16th, 2009, 08:20 PM
Another thing is that the top eight finishers in the points race qualify for the Sony Ericsson Championships, and there is no "Best 16" for that; every point counts.

The rules have actually changed in that regard this year:

"The top seven (7) players using the best of 16 ranking system, starting with the beginning of the Tour Year, shall qualify for the Sony Ericsson Championships. The qualification method will count the 51 weeks of events, dropping off the ranking points earned in the previous Sony Ericsson Championships the week prior to the current Sony Ericsson Championships."

darrinbaker00
Jul 16th, 2009, 08:27 PM
The rules have actually changed in that regard this year:

"The top seven (7) players using the best of 16 ranking system, starting with the beginning of the Tour Year, shall qualify for the Sony Ericsson Championships. The qualification method will count the 51 weeks of events, dropping off the ranking points earned in the previous Sony Ericsson Championships the week prior to the current Sony Ericsson Championships."
Thank you for the correction.

pesto
Jul 16th, 2009, 11:37 PM
I don't think her ranking is really inflated by her schedule - have you seen how many points clear of Petrova she is? More than 1500.

But I am concerned about overuse injuries and fatigue. I'd like to see her ramp it down a bit for her own sake.

Robert-KimClijst
Jul 17th, 2009, 03:41 AM
If Wozniacki gets injured or burned out for playing all these tournaments, then criticize her. Until then, why scorn ehr for playing a lot to achievbe as much as she can and enjoy what she loves doing? Kim played four events before the US Open and won it in 2005, so it isn't always a bad thing.

Roookie
Jul 17th, 2009, 04:35 AM
I thought rankings were based on a best of 16 tournaments system. The OP mention Mayer playing 35, what ranking does she have?. I don't understand why all the hate towards Caro, and i'm not even a fan. Yes she's playing a lot of tournaments but she's winning a lot of matches too. :shrug:

FormerlyKnownAs
Jul 17th, 2009, 06:54 AM
First Caroline said she would play Los Angeles, Cincinnati and Toronto.
I thought that after 3 weeks with no tournament, then 3 in a row, with the week off before US Open it would be OK.

Then Protoss noticed in the Hartford Courant.com, that she was playing New Haven.
I think this is too much, but the answer is start money (see below). I really hope it is a lot as the chance for physical/mental injury will be greater.

From Upcoming Tournaments > More Tournaments Pilot Pen Tennis presented by Schick

list out
Wozniacki only top 10
followed by Cibulkova, and rest of top 20 apart from #18 (Na Li)
From http://www.sporten.dk/tennis/caro-far-%E2%80%99stille%E2%80%99-efterar 16. June 2009
Whatever happens she has enough points now to stay in the top 15. Not so many small tournaments that only gave few points, but considering the size of the start money she would get being #9, if the offer was big enough they would think about it.
"If they put a whole bundle of money on the table and it fits in our calendar, we are obviously ready to consider it, "said Piotr Wozniacki.
With Caroline Wozniacki’s present position as number nine in the world, she is already one of the big names that can earn anything between $ 25,000 and $ 200,000 to be a star name in tournaments that do not give many points in the world ranks list

From Hartford Courant http://www.courant.com/sports/other/hc-pilotpen0630.artjun30,0,6033011.story June 30
"Each year, Pilot Pen tournament director Anne Worcester goes to Wimbledon, makes her pitch and returns to Connecticut to play the waiting game. This year, the good news rolled in almost immediately.
Worcester announced Monday that defending champion and world No.9 Caroline Wozniacki and No.11 Marion Bartoli have committed to play in the Pilot Pen, Aug. 21-29 at the Connecticut Tennis Center at Yale.
Worcester said ticket sales are down slightly from last year because some companies have not yet committed to weeklong boxes

So they get a top 10 defending champion to sell tickets and Caroline gets "a whole bundle of money"
I hope nobody gets hurt by it.

Corswandt
Jul 17th, 2009, 10:12 AM
In recent years, there's always been a player who hogs herself to the ground playing for rankings.

In 2007 it was Jankovic.

In early 2008 it was A. Radwanska.

Now it's Wozniacki.

Evidence posted in the thread so far (see post above) suggests that Daddy Wozniacki is the tennis dad version of Gordon Gekko.

But there's other reasons for this crazy hogging I think. Entering all these tournaments increases her chances of lucking out and getting a draw to open up for her. And if she goes deep enough in a particular tournament, that result will replace one of her previous best 16 results (so no, the "Caro" apologists who keep saying "only the best 16 results count, so she's not artificially inflating her ranking through relentless hogging!" aren't entirely correct).

Plus a success in a North American tournament would help market her there. And I suspect there would be a big fat bonus from Adidas should Wozniacki make it to the top 5; her current schedule wasn't enough to do so, but if she hogs even harder it might well just do. And above all, there's the Holy Grail nobody seems to have mentioned in this thread - a top 8 seeding for the USO, which can make a world of difference to her performance there. Seedings are everything for overranked players as they allow them to dodge the elite.

RagingBull99
Jul 17th, 2009, 10:28 AM
I dont think she will play all 4 Tournaments. After reaching the final in Madrid she withdrew from Warsaw. The same will happen here. She will make a Final or Semifinal of a Tournament and then she will withdraw the next week.

LCS
Jul 17th, 2009, 12:16 PM
Yes, Caroline should make sure to account for her health - play less tournaments.

ZODIAC
Jul 17th, 2009, 12:46 PM
I think the father is money hungry, at some point she is going to rebel and find her own coach.He is pushy like Yuri and he looks a lot like Sharapov.

CloudAtlas
Jul 17th, 2009, 12:59 PM
But there's other reasons for this crazy hogging I think. Entering all these tournaments increases her chances of lucking out and getting a draw to open up for her. And if she goes deep enough in a particular tournament, that result will replace one of her previous best 16 results (so no, the "Caro" apologists who keep saying "only the best 16 results count, so she's not artificially inflating her ranking through relentless hogging!" aren't entirely correct).


That's irrelevant really. She's got the overall results to get to that ranking , how she gets them doesn't matter. So to that note , it;s completely inaccurate to state that she "only" is in the top 10 due to playing so many events.

sharapovarulz1
Jul 17th, 2009, 03:01 PM
Pointless thread!

FormerlyKnownAs
Jul 17th, 2009, 11:12 PM
As a matter of interest, who has played the most tournaments in a year and how many.
Any ideas anyone?

Richie's
Jul 18th, 2009, 12:06 PM
hantuchova is playing also many tournaments but the result is the same!!!!

Lord Choc Ice
Jul 18th, 2009, 03:13 PM
If Wozniacki gets injured or burned out for playing all these tournaments, then criticize her. Until then, why scorn ehr for playing a lot to achievbe as much as she can and enjoy what she loves doing? Kim played four events before the US Open and won it in 2005, so it isn't always a bad thing.
Ah, but she did burn herself out this year remember? At the French Open. It wasn't for very long but it gives a preview of what her schedule will do to her in the long run.

terjw
Jul 18th, 2009, 05:09 PM
Good for her. And her ranking is due to her good results - it's not because she played a lot when only best 16 count. She won Eastbourne in a field full of top players because she played the best there and was not too exhausted or whatever the excuse of the other poor players who had played less than her.

As for the argument she has better chances to "get lucky" if she plays more. She "gets luccky" quite often. And the same posters are saying playing more has an adverse affect and will burn her out. You can't have it both ways.

I think she is playing a lot because she is doing well and is enjoying it and she's improving - not really for her ranking. This is her job. On scheduling - what works well for one player doesn't work for another. There is no proof that playing a lot leads to burn out and injuries which wouldn't have occurred if playing less. There have been plenty of examples of players with light schedules sufferring from injuries - the Williams sisters, Sharapova, Henin. And if we look at JJ - she has been playing worse this year when less injured and playing a lighter schedule compared to last year.

So why miss out playing when she is playing well when there is no guarantee she won't pick up injuries anyway and would then kick herself for not playing when she was fit and doing well.

Corswandt
Jul 18th, 2009, 05:27 PM
And her ranking is due to her good results - it's not because she played a lot when only best 16 count.

People genuinely can't see the difference between getting that "best 16" out of 29 tournaments played or out of 18.

Christinawww
Jul 18th, 2009, 06:05 PM
People genuinely can't see the difference between getting that "best 16" out of 29 tournaments played or out of 18.

I like Caro, and I don't mind her playing almost every week if her body doesn't complain. I support players who support the tour. But I do agree that she is ranked 9, mainly because she has played 29 tournaments and not just e.g. 20.

Just for fun, I tried adding up the 4 Grand slams, 3 mandatory (which have been played so far) and her 9 worst result, and her total is 2592 which will place her at 17. I didn't do it for other players and some players might lose points too resulting in Caro advancing into the top16 again, but I doubt they'll "lose" as many points as Caro.

Vika will lose only 58 and be at 5008 if we count her worst result and not best.

starin
Jul 18th, 2009, 06:45 PM
I think no one cares because she isn't in the top 5 and hasn't made a deep run at a slam yet.
Jankovic got to #1 w/ 1 tournament win and no slam finals. That's why she got so much crap.

terjw
Jul 18th, 2009, 07:36 PM
I like Caro, and I don't mind her playing almost every week if her body doesn't complain. I support players who support the tour. But I do agree that she is ranked 9, mainly because she has played 29 tournaments and not just e.g. 20.

Just for fun, I tried adding up the 4 Grand slams, 3 mandatory (which have been played so far) and her 9 worst result, and her total is 2592 which will place her at 17. I didn't do it for other players and some players might lose points too resulting in Caro advancing into the top16 again, but I doubt they'll "lose" as many points as Caro.

Vika will lose only 58 and be at 5008 if we count her worst result and not best.

Sorry - but if you took the worst results for Caro and the best results for the other players - your just for fun exercise is misleading, meaningless and proves nothing.

As for Vika. It's totally irrelevant you worked out she loses 58 points if you take her worst results as far as Caro's ranking is concerned since she's higher ranked than Caro.

The reason for taking the best results is obvious. It is an incentive to play. It means you can never actually have fewer points by playing than by not playing. It would be quite ridiculous to have a situation taking the worst results whereby there would be situations where if you played and even won a tournament - you'd be guaranteed to lose points.

And anyway - with the system at present - what needs to be understood is that playing more could well make it less likely to have a higher ranking if you are worn out for the big tournaments with lots of ranking points. So it's good that the ranking system is how it is and doesn't penalise consistency and the ability to play well more than just a few times in a year.

And yes - a small part of her ranking is due to her demonstrating her ability to to play consistently well time and time again and not just a few times a year and that is good and an aspect of her skill that should be measured and not ignored.

Protoss
Jul 18th, 2009, 08:21 PM
I like Caro, and I don't mind her playing almost every week if her body doesn't complain. I support players who support the tour. But I do agree that she is ranked 9, mainly because she has played 29 tournaments and not just e.g. 20.

Just for fun, I tried adding up the 4 Grand slams, 3 mandatory (which have been played so far) and her 9 worst result, and her total is 2592 which will place her at 17. I didn't do it for other players and some players might lose points too resulting in Caro advancing into the top16 again, but I doubt they'll "lose" as many points as Caro.

Vika will lose only 58 and be at 5008 if we count her worst result and not best.
Here's a list of the players currently ranked 6-17 and the points they have under the "best 16" system:


6 Jelena Jankovic 5980
7 Vera Zvonareva 5400
8 Victoria Azarenka 5066
9 Caroline Wozniacki 4840
10 Nadia Petrova 3300
11 Ana Ivanovic 3272
12 Dominika Cibulkova 3221
13 Marion Bartoli 3215
14 Aga Radwanska 2981
15 Flavia Pennetta 2930
16 Amelie Mauresmo 2639
17 Virgine Razzano 2365


Here's the same players ranked based on the "worst 16" system (all mandatory tournaments and the worst optional tournaments):


6 Victoria Azarenka 4676
7 Jelena Jankovic 3633
8 Vera Zvonareva 2767
9 Caroline Wozniacki 2522
10 Ana Ivanovic 2475
11 Aga Radwanska 2090
12 Amelie Mauresmo 1919
13 Dominika Cibulkova 1862
14 Marion Bartoli 1516
15 Nadia Petrova 1496
16 Flavia Pennetta 1355
17 Virginie Razzano 1133

Randy H
Jul 18th, 2009, 09:19 PM
Total tournaments is fairly insignificant considering they don't all count toward your ranking total...Yes it gives the player more opportunity at more events to pick up points, but ultimately it's up to the player to get the strong results in order to earn their ranking.

CloudAtlas
Jul 19th, 2009, 01:08 AM
Total tournaments is fairly insignificant considering they don't all count toward your ranking total...Yes it gives the player more opportunity at more events to pick up points, but ultimately it's up to the player to get the strong results in order to earn their ranking.



Agree , if you look at Caro's best results , they've all come at big tournaments she would've played anyway (outside GS). A win in Eastbourne - a premier event , a runner up finish in Charleston - another Premier event , another runner up finish in Madrid , a premier mandatory tournament and a win in Ponte Vedra , which isn't a big tournament but there's no saying that she wouldn't have played in it on a "regular" schedule.

delicatecutter
Jul 19th, 2009, 01:30 AM
Don't forget her formidable showings at the 3 Grand Slams this year.. Oh, wait. :tape: