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Slutiana
Jul 16th, 2009, 01:54 AM
Venus Williams
Serena Williams
Tatiana Golovin
Maria Sharapova
Jelena Jankovic


:shrug:

KournikovaFan91
Jul 16th, 2009, 01:56 AM
Anna Kournikova
Tatiana Golovin
Serena Williams
Venus Williams
Ana Ivanovic
Martina Hingis

Thats it.

Jankovic on some level, Sharapova has gained some charisma lately.

BlameSerena
Jul 16th, 2009, 02:33 AM
I'd say Serena and JJ and Ana. Maybe Vika. Sometimes she's engaging in interviews.

HRHoliviasmith
Jul 16th, 2009, 03:05 AM
ivanovic and sharapova? are you guys serious?

Craig.
Jul 16th, 2009, 03:11 AM
Anna Kournikova
Tatiana Golovin
Serena Williams
Venus Williams
Ana Ivanovic
Martina Hingis

Thats it.

Jankovic on some level, Sharapova has gained some charisma lately.

HAHA. No.

Volcana
Jul 16th, 2009, 03:30 AM
Limiting it to active players ....'

Before they start talking, Ana Ivanovic, Maria Sharapova, Jelena Jankovic

After they start talking, Venus Williams, Amelie Mauresmo. They're adults.

Special Mention: Serena Williams. Part of being a star is craft. Serena has mastered that. She's better at being a star and having her own life than anyone else on tour. Partly, I suppose, because she likes it.

Nikkiri
Jul 16th, 2009, 03:40 AM
Caroline Wozniacki.

miffedmax
Jul 16th, 2009, 03:46 AM
I personally find Dementieva utterly besotting--particularly the way she can be cool and poised one second, a giggly, goofy girl the next and the slip into total nerdina mode a second later. But I guess some people don't see it.

Caro seems to have a very appealing personality and I think will get more popular if she wins some big ones.

Ana is always stiff as a board, IMHO. JJ tries too hard. I was actually warming up to her until about a year ago. Now I just want her to STFU.

Venus has a nice, quiet dignified appeal. Serena can be fun if it's not a post-match interview. TOB is a little slick and packaged, yet even knowing that she knows how to work it and has the endorsements and popularity to prove it.

Ai Sugiyama is very cute and charming, I think, as is Penneta who I think comes across as being much prettier than she is because she's so charming.

Safina, before the whole #1 thing got to her, had a nice sense of humor. Kuzzy is funny as hell, but is never going to be a cover girl.

Those are the ones I can think of right now.

skanky~skanketta
Jul 16th, 2009, 04:02 AM
Anna Kournikova
Tatiana Golovin
Serena Williams
Venus Williams
Ana Ivanovic
Martina Hingis

Thats it.

Jankovic on some level, Sharapova has gained some charisma lately.
ROTF!

Ana Ivanovic is about as charismatic as a broken twig.

Jankovic, like her or not, is very charismatic. The media loves her as do the crowd because she's so candid and know how to play them.

Hingis and Serena are very charismatic. Venus, on a more subdued level. Not sure about Tatiana.

Dominic
Jul 16th, 2009, 04:18 AM
ivanovic and sharapova? are you guys serious?

They're both very charismatic. I don't think you really get the word honey, charismatic doesnt necessarely mean being hugely loud, in your face and wearing over the top funky clothes, you should check your dictionary.

Dominic
Jul 16th, 2009, 04:19 AM
The least charismatic is probably Safina.

adner
Jul 16th, 2009, 05:03 AM
Jelena Jankovic
Victoria Azarenka
Serena Williams

FAMK
Jul 16th, 2009, 05:10 AM
Kim Clijsters
Ana Ivanovic
Serena Williams
Caroline Wozniacki
Jelena Jankovic
Sabine Lisicki

HRHoliviasmith
Jul 16th, 2009, 05:29 AM
The least charismatic is probably Safina.

right behind ivanovic and sharapova...

HRHoliviasmith
Jul 16th, 2009, 05:33 AM
They're both very charismatic. I don't think you really get the word honey, charismatic doesnt necessarely mean being hugely loud, in your face and wearing over the top funky clothes, you should check your dictionary.

yeah honey, those two fit the definition of charismatic in the dictionary that you guest edited.

skanky~skanketta
Jul 16th, 2009, 06:46 AM
yeah honey, those two fit the definition of charismatic in the dictionary that you guest edited.
:lol::lol::lol:

pollison
Jul 16th, 2009, 06:50 AM
serena.

Trixie
Jul 16th, 2009, 07:09 AM
Ivanovic, both Williams, Golovin and Kuznetsova.

Pheobo
Jul 16th, 2009, 07:14 AM
Ivanovic? Seriously? I was under the impression that you had to have some sort of personality before you were "charismatic" :o Ana is about as charismatic as Justine Henin.

Drimal
Jul 16th, 2009, 07:52 AM
Virginie Razzano

She brings fresh air on the tour in so many ways (interviews, smile, broken English, forgetting her opponent's name :lol: , ...)

Jelena Jankovic comes a close second

Petkorazzi
Jul 16th, 2009, 08:06 AM
Dementieva. :)

ZODIAC
Jul 16th, 2009, 08:45 AM
does anyone know what charismatic means,Sharapova is far from charismatic she is just pretty,Ana is just a pretty face I dont want to hear her speak,
Michael Jackson,Barack Obama,Lady Diana,Pope John Paul the 2nd,Fidel Castro,Mandela and Will Smith, these people are or were charismatic.

Cora
Jul 16th, 2009, 08:50 AM
Kuznetsova is charismatic ;)

LefandePatty
Jul 16th, 2009, 08:59 AM
Klára Zakopalová

jjlove
Jul 16th, 2009, 09:20 AM
Since some of you have some problems knowing what it means I will give you a hand:

charisma [(kuh-riz-muh)]


Extraordinary power and appeal of personality; natural ability to inspire a large following.

Following that I think JJ is charismatic (though for some reason is decreasing quite fast) and to me Serena tops as the most charismatic player.

FrenchY52
Jul 16th, 2009, 09:22 AM
Golovin, Jankovic, Serena, Vaidisova etc.

Some people said Ivanovic.. WTF ????

frenchie
Jul 16th, 2009, 10:01 AM
Sharapova is only charismatic to kids from 8 to 12

Slutiana
Jul 16th, 2009, 10:16 AM
Caroline Wozniacki.
:crying2:

jade001
Jul 16th, 2009, 10:22 AM
Sharapova is only charismatic to kids from 8 to 12

She isn't Michael Jackson.

olivero
Jul 16th, 2009, 10:24 AM
JJ and Serena by far

Sexysova
Jul 16th, 2009, 10:28 AM
I guess Nicole is very charismatic as media still bother with her though she's ranked nowhere :lol:

maja.amelie
Jul 16th, 2009, 10:30 AM
JJ and Serena

дalex
Jul 16th, 2009, 10:40 AM
Jeca (http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9071/jjmonroe.gif) & Rena (http://i28.tinypic.com/ih5kp5.gif)!

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jul 16th, 2009, 10:51 AM
Babygurl :hearts: :inlove:

CORIA01
Jul 16th, 2009, 11:05 AM
Masha,Martina Hingis, Serena, Venus,Ana, Jelena, Azarenka

Just Do It
Jul 16th, 2009, 11:20 AM
Jankovic, Cibulkova and Mattek.

miffedmax
Jul 16th, 2009, 12:01 PM
Dementieva. :)

I (obviously) agree, though from what I've heard from fellow posters and read in interviews, Lena's charm works best one-on-one or a small room, as opposed to on TV or a stadium full of people.

Zébulon
Jul 16th, 2009, 12:07 PM
Charismatic means nothing whatsoever noawadays.

Ksenia.
Jul 16th, 2009, 12:19 PM
JJ & Serena. Sveta is quite a character as well :p

allrounder
Jul 16th, 2009, 12:27 PM
JJ, Serena, Vika and Kuzzy are the 1s which come to mind out of the top players. All sports need their characters as it's one of the main things that gets people watching. :)

rockstar
Jul 16th, 2009, 12:41 PM
why are all tati fans mentioning her? :unsure:

i'm not too sure about tati and interviews, is she really that charismatic?

Golovinjured.
Jul 16th, 2009, 12:45 PM
Golovin
Serena
Jankovic
Hingis
Kournikova
Sveta
Mauresmo
Venus
Rubin
Schett
Sanchez Vicario

Becool
Jul 16th, 2009, 12:59 PM
Jelena and Serena

I think Ana is also very charismatic..

Nemo_Kool
Jul 16th, 2009, 01:17 PM
i reallly really really miss the JJ of old who used to smile on court and look like she loved the game.
Also, Serena and JJ give the best press interviews bar none :)

MaBaker
Jul 16th, 2009, 01:30 PM
No one comes close to JeJa

http://i30.tinypic.com/28hphrn.gif

TheBoiledEgg
Jul 16th, 2009, 01:49 PM
http://www.umassvegetable.org/images/soils_crops_pest_mgt/crop/lettuce3.jpg
^ has more charisma than JJ

jjlove
Jul 16th, 2009, 01:56 PM
She has more charisma than all of the ones you have in your signature that have like 0 charisma. Only would save Mirza, Pennetta, Vika and Cibulkova.

miffedmax
Jul 16th, 2009, 01:58 PM
The old JJ had it. Vika comes very close.

My suggestion?

You guessed it.

Remedial classes at Miss Myskina's Fucking Charm School for Fucking Young Ladies.

The curriculum includes:

"Which fucking fork do I use?"
"Fucking Smile during your interview"
"Show some fucking class and don't talk about your fucking period"
"Broken English: it can be fucking charming (with a special guest lecture by Elena Dementieva)
"Contradicting yourself-it's fucking fun and fucking cute"
"Advanced fucking pouting"
"How to fucking toss a fucking racket"
"Advanced fucking racket tossing"
"Really fucking advanced fucking racket tossing"
"How to fucking roll your eyes at your fucking idiot coach"
"How to fucking giggle and wrap male journos around your fucking finger"
"Shorty short? Fuck yeah!"

Cora
Jul 16th, 2009, 02:00 PM
and Cibulkova is very charismatic too ;)

Elisse
Jul 16th, 2009, 02:03 PM
ROTF!

Ana Ivanovic is about as charismatic as a broken twig.

LOL...very true! :lol: :devil:

volta
Jul 16th, 2009, 02:04 PM
She has more charisma than all of the ones you have in your signature that have like 0 charisma. Only would save Mirza, Pennetta, Vika and Cibulkova.

:D

дalex
Jul 16th, 2009, 02:19 PM
^ has more charisma than JJ

http://i40.tinypic.com/2e5oznc.jpg

flyingmachine
Jul 16th, 2009, 02:19 PM
I think the most Charismatic tennis player at the moment has to be Serena. :devil:
Also Momo and Sveta has charisma as well. ;)
People keep saying JJ but she's bitchy rather than charismatic.

Elisse
Jul 16th, 2009, 02:21 PM
To me someone who is charismatic...is someone with charm, wit, humour, quick thinking and that special likeablity factor.....but with everyone, not just when they are in front of the TV cameras!

So for me...players who are truly charismatic....

Eleni Daniilidou
Jelena Jankovic
Akgul Amanmuradova
Amelie Mauresmo
Francesca Schiavone
Sveta Kuznetsova
Tathiana Garbin

:worship:

Least charismatic in my opinion...

Ana Ivanovic
Maria Sharapova

:tape:

joăo.
Jul 16th, 2009, 03:09 PM
The Williams and Sharapova, probably.

delicatecutter
Jul 16th, 2009, 03:12 PM
Tatiana Golovin, hands down. :inlove:

"Happy Easter" still makes me melt. :sad:

Beverly Stayart
Jul 16th, 2009, 03:16 PM
Anna Kournikova and Serena Williams.

Princeza
Jul 16th, 2009, 03:17 PM
Gisela Dulko.

Libertango
Jul 16th, 2009, 03:35 PM
I like Maria; but she is NOT charismatic - IMO. She's actually rather dull (in her public persona at least; some players obviously like to present themselves in a certain way and could be completely different in person/private)

Dominic
Jul 16th, 2009, 03:48 PM
yeah honey, those two fit the definition of charismatic in the dictionary that you guest edited.

First go read it, then you can have an opinion. PLayers that are not charismatic aren't necessarely the ones you dislike honey, you know.

Slutiana
Jul 16th, 2009, 03:51 PM
Tatiana Golovin, hands down. :inlove:

"Happy Easter" still makes me melt. :sad:
Xuf0zlV6D6w :hysteric:

miffedmax
Jul 16th, 2009, 03:59 PM
I like Maria; but she is NOT charismatic - IMO. She's actually rather dull (in her public persona at least; some players obviously like to present themselves in a certain way and could be completely different in person/private)

Part of TOB's essential TOBness is that she is in many ways my anti-Elena. Their respective charisma strengths and weaknesses are, IMHO, a good example.

On court, in front of 12,000 people, TOB comes across as more dynamic, bigger than life, driven, it's really hard for me, at least, not to root for her. Put her in a commercial or a photo shoot for a mass audience, and she's usually good as gold. But in one-on-one situations, whether it's an interview or even reports on this board, she turns stiff, cold, uncharismatic.

Lena sometimes gets swallowed up in a big crowd. Most photo shoots, even when she looks really nice, you still get a vague sense she'd rather be somewhere else. Press conferences, she comes across as trying desperately trying to please everyone. But even in one-on-one interviews and everyone who's every talked about meeting her talks about how giggly, sweet and utterly charming she is in person.

I've speculated before what an amazing tennis player you'd have if you could combine Lena and TOB, and I think charmisa is just one more way you'd have a world-beater if you could.

But you can't. So while they both have charm, I'd have to say they are in the second tier of charismatic players right now.

miffedmax
Jul 16th, 2009, 04:02 PM
BTW, having said that, there's a lot to be said for being drop-dead gorgeous, which I think both Lena and TOB are.

Dominic
Jul 16th, 2009, 04:12 PM
Oh Goloving is very charming in that interview.

Donny
Jul 16th, 2009, 04:29 PM
Serena, Jankovic, and Azarenka, have others have said. And I think there's a HUGGGGE gap between them and the rest of the field in that regard.

Ivanovic, though she's my favorite player besides Serena, is not charismatic. She's nice and pretty looking, that's it. If she was unattractive, no one would be mentioning her.

And Venus? She gives (by design, to be fair) so of the most bland interviews and pres conferences imaginable.

HRHoliviasmith
Jul 16th, 2009, 04:32 PM
First go read it, then you can have an opinion. PLayers that are not charismatic aren't necessarely the ones you dislike honey, you know.

ummm, I can have an opinion whenever I want....honey. :unsure:

huff and puff all you want...Ivanovic and Sharapova have 0 charisma. NONE. :lol: :wavey:

The Dawntreader
Jul 16th, 2009, 04:40 PM
Charisma isn't that subjective IMO. For example, people who call Federer charismatic are clearly lying or delusional. Or both:lol:

Jankovic, Serena, Myskina tick the charisma box. Myskina probably the most candid of anyone in press conferences.

Venus has a quiet charisma.

Slutiana
Jul 16th, 2009, 04:46 PM
Charisma isn't that subjective IMO. For example, people who call Federer charismatic are clearly lying or delusional. Or both:lol:

Jankovic, Serena, Myskina tick the charisma box. Myskina probably the most candid of anyone in press conferences.

Venus has a quiet charisma.
Thats what i've always thought. She doesn't hide away, she is very open, likeable and honest and shows us her personality, she's just not as outgoing as the others and charisma doesn't mean the loudest person. :shrug: Seriously, if she wasn't charismatic she wouldn't have cut up that reporter the other day and if she wasn't charismatic then she wouldn't be the players' leader.

ZODIAC
Jul 16th, 2009, 04:47 PM
Charisma isn't that subjective IMO. For example, people who call Federer charismatic are clearly lying or delusional. Or both:lol:

Jankovic, Serena, Myskina tick the charisma box. Myskina probably the most candid of anyone in press conferences.

Venus has a quiet charisma.Venus has this endearing quality that draws you in about her,when she is being interviewed you can tell she is very thoughtful and a genuinely good person.:worship:

The Dawntreader
Jul 16th, 2009, 04:49 PM
Thats what i've always thought. She doesn't hide away, she is very open, likeable and honest and shows us her personality, she's just not as outgoing as the others and charisma doesn't mean the loudest person. :shrug: Seriously, if she wasn't charismatic she wouldn't have cut up that reporter the other day and if she wasn't charismatic then she wouldn't be the players' vocal leader.

Yeah, charisma doesn't equate 'brashness'. Venus is very pensive, which is quite charismatic. People who have certain depths are usually extremely so.

People who are charismatic aren't nessecarily likeable though.

Donny
Jul 16th, 2009, 04:52 PM
Thats what i've always thought. She doesn't hide away, she is very open, likeable and honest and shows us her personality, she's just not as outgoing as the others and charisma doesn't mean the loudest person. :shrug: Seriously, if she wasn't charismatic she wouldn't have cut up that reporter the other day and if she wasn't charismatic then she wouldn't be the tour's leader.

I think you misunderstand what "charisma" means. Charisma doesn't mean having sharp wit, or speaking well. Bush, for instance, was far more charismatic than Kerry ever was. Charisma means having a magnetic aura about you that can excite those around you in a positive way.It means influencing other behavior by mean affectation.

When Jankovic used to have on court convos with people in the crowd while she's playing a match, that's charisma. I don't even care for jankovic for that match, yet I see that.

When Serena got the entire press room in hysteric a week or so ago, that's charisma. Charisma's one of those things that can't be "udnerstated".

Slutiana
Jul 16th, 2009, 05:00 PM
I think you misunderstand what "charisma" means. Charisma doesn't mean having sharp wit, or speaking well. Bush, for instance, was far more charismatic than Kerry ever was. Charisma means having a magnetic aura about you that can excite those around you in a positive way.It means influencing other behavior by mean affectation.

When Jankovic used to have on court convos with people in the crowd while she's playing a match, that's charisma. I don't even care for jankovic for that match, yet I see that.

When Serena got the entire press room in hysteric a week or so ago, that's charisma. Charisma's one of those things that can't be "udnerstated".
Read dawntreader's and thriller999's posts above me, they have already explained why Venus is charismatic. She is charismatic off-court, she can still have the press room in hysterics and I have seen it many times, just in a different way to Serena. She's deep and she draws you in, I dunno, it's much harder to explain Venus than people like JJ and Serena who are so in-your-face. Tati is a great personality too.

Serenita
Jul 16th, 2009, 05:06 PM
Serena and Venus

ZODIAC
Jul 16th, 2009, 05:08 PM
most good actors or artist have a quality that draws you in,Jonny Depp has it,Michael Jackson had it,Obama has it,Roger doesnt have it or Roddick.
Venus has this regal aura about her,she does have quiet strength that make people pay attention even those that hate her.

Donny
Jul 16th, 2009, 05:08 PM
Read dawntreader's and thriller999's posts above me, they have already explained why Venus is charismatic. She is charismatic off-court, she can still have the press room in hysterics and I have seen it many times, just in a different way to Serena. She's deep and she draws you in, I dunno, it's much harder to explain Venus than people like JJ and Serena who are so in-your-face. Tati is a great personality too.

I disagree. A huge part of charisma is being outgoing; the desire to influence others with your personality. Otherwise, charisma would be synonymous with a nice personality.

Someone as purposely curt and muted as Venus will never be oozing charisma. At least not to me anyway.

Donny
Jul 16th, 2009, 05:09 PM
most good actors or artist have a quality that draws you in,Jonny Depp has it,Michael Jackson had it,Obama has it,Roger doesnt have it or Roddick.
Venus has this regal aura about her,she does have quiet strength that make people pay attention even those that hate her.

I think Roddick has plenty of charisma. Federer... not so much.

ZODIAC
Jul 16th, 2009, 05:13 PM
I think you misunderstand what "charisma" means. Charisma doesn't mean having sharp wit, or speaking well. Bush, for instance, was far more charismatic than Kerry ever was. Charisma means having a magnetic aura about you that can excite those around you in a positive way.It means influencing other behavior by mean affectation.

When Jankovic used to have on court convos with people in the crowd while she's playing a match, that's charisma. I don't even care for jankovic for that match, yet I see that.

When Serena got the entire press room in hysteric a week or so ago, that's charisma. Charisma's one of those things that can't be "udnerstated".you mean when Jankovic was mugging to the camera,I dont think people left that stadium feeling like Jelena has influenced them in anyway probably amused by her antics.:tape:

Donny
Jul 16th, 2009, 05:14 PM
you mean when Jankovic was mugging to the camera,I dont think people left that stadium like Jelena has influenced them in anyway probably amused by her antics.:tape:

That's a large part of charisma. It's not the same thing about being "respected", otherwise, Martina N. would be one of the most charismatic players in WTA history. It's about being a showman of sorts.

kiwifan
Jul 16th, 2009, 05:14 PM
I personally find Dementieva utterly besotting--particularly the way she can be cool and poised one second, a giggly, goofy girl the next and the slip into total nerdina mode a second later. But I guess some people don't see it.

Caro seems to have a very appealing personality and I think will get more popular if she wins some big ones.

Ana is always stiff as a board, IMHO. JJ tries too hard. I was actually warming up to her until about a year ago. Now I just want her to STFU.

Venus has a nice, quiet dignified appeal. Serena can be fun if it's not a post-match interview. TOB is a little slick and packaged, yet even knowing that she knows how to work it and has the endorsements and popularity to prove it.

Ai Sugiyama is very cute and charming, I think, as is Penneta who I think comes across as being much prettier than she is because she's so charming.

Safina, before the whole #1 thing got to her, had a nice sense of humor. Kuzzy is funny as hell, but is never going to be a cover girl.

Those are the ones I can think of right now.

I came into this thread laughing because Demented wasn't mentioned in the first few posts. :p

So I wondered how long before you remedied that oversight. :lol: :lol: :lol:

With all due respect if Serena's post match pressers weren't fun, they wouldn't be the number one off court attraction in women's tennis. :angel:

So when you talk charisma Serena and Hingis have/had it in spades; on and off the court.

Being good looking is only a part of charisma but it doesn't hurt, thus Ana I. makes the list too.

Jelena J tries too hard but still she has personality to spare.

No one on tour is more compelling with a mic in her face than Venus Williams.

Denise4925
Jul 16th, 2009, 05:24 PM
Venus is very charming and sophisticated. She is very mysterious, which is very attractive.

Serena is very charming and funny. Her divaness is attractive and charismatic to me. Her oncourt and offcourt presence is very charismatic. People always want to know more.

Dinara is cute and charming, which makes her charismatic to me.

Maria is charismatic because the endorsement machine has trained her, but as far as personality is concerned, she doesn't have much of one.

That's about it for me. :shrug:

M-K
Jul 16th, 2009, 05:37 PM
Serena Williams takes the lead just before Tatiana Golovin in my opinion.

I also think Maria Sharapova, Nicole Vaidisova, Jelena Jankovic and Victoria Azarenka are very charismatic.

BartoliBabes
Jul 16th, 2009, 05:42 PM
Bartoli, Serena & Jankovic

ZODIAC
Jul 16th, 2009, 05:44 PM
Serena Williams takes the lead just before Tatiana Golovin in my opinion.

I also think Maria Sharapova, Nicole Vaidisova, Jelena Jankovic and Victoria Azarenka are very charismatic.Serena does have charisma and Jankovic these days doesnt seem charismatic at all.Azarenka and pova are best known for grunting and nothing else:rolleyes:

Dominic
Jul 16th, 2009, 05:50 PM
ummm, I can have an opinion whenever I want....honey. :unsure:

huff and puff all you want...Ivanovic and Sharapova have 0 charisma. NONE. :lol: :wavey:

Yes you can but if you dont know what youre talking about, it's worth sh*t, and since you dont seem to know what charisma is, well.. Sharapova always has this huge buzz around her and has tons of followers and always draws huge crowds. She gets all the media attention and is friendly, charming and funny in interviews. The fact that she has a poker face when she plays tennis doesnt make her not charismatic :rolleyes: And Ivanovic is known as one of the friendliest players and is very demonstrative on the court, just because she has alot of haters doesnt make her any less charismatic. Stop being so biased.

Slutiana
Jul 16th, 2009, 05:50 PM
Serena does have charisma and Jankovic these days doesnt seem charismatic at all.Azarenka and pova are best known for grunting and nothing else:rolleyes:
Yeah, I don't know why people are saying Azarenka. :confused: And since looking at videos of Maria, she does come across as a little bit fake.

HRHoliviasmith
Jul 16th, 2009, 06:01 PM
Yes you can but if you dont know what youre talking about, it's worth sh*t, and since you dont seem to know what charisma is, well.. Sharapova always has this huge buzz around her and has tons of followers and always draws huge crowds. She gets all the media attention and is friendly, charming and funny in interviews. The fact that she has a poker face when she plays tennis doesnt make her not charismatic :rolleyes: And Ivanovic is known as one of the friendliest players and is very demonstrative on the court, just because she has alot of haters doesnt make her any less charismatic. Stop being so biased.

"I'll huff and I'll puff......" :lol::lol::lol:

0...zilch...nada....

Dominic
Jul 16th, 2009, 06:21 PM
"I'll huff and I'll puff......" :lol::lol::lol:

0...zilch...nada....

Oh.. great argument :) NOw are you out of stupid meaningless tings to say that have nothing to do with players being charismatic or not!?

miffedmax
Jul 16th, 2009, 06:25 PM
Azarenka's got a little bit of a bad girl vibe that some of us guys find quite charming. I totally get why her name keeps coming up. Myskina, Capriati and even Hingis all had a kind of "Reform School Girl" appeal as well. There was an element of it in pre-08 JJ that I enjoyed, but IMHO that element went from being a somewhat charmingly bitchy streak to just being whiny in '08-present and like I said that's when JJ lost her appeal for me.

I get why some people still like her, but that's that. And yes. I know I then turn around and also adore sweethearts like Lena and Caro. I'm sure this is related to some sort of Madonna/Whore complex and explains why I'm divorced. And then there's the whole bangs thing...

The Daviator
Jul 16th, 2009, 06:32 PM
ROTF!

Ana Ivanovic is about as charismatic as a broken twig.

Jankovic, like her or not, is very charismatic. The media loves her as do the crowd because she's so candid and know how to play them.

The media and the crowd love Ivanovic too :wavey:

To me someone who is charismatic...is someone with charm, wit, humour, quick thinking and that special likeablity factor.....but with everyone, not just when they are in front of the TV cameras!

So for me...players who are truly charismatic....

Eleni Daniilidou
Jelena Jankovic
Akgul Amanmuradova
Amelie Mauresmo
Francesca Schiavone
Sveta Kuznetsova
Tathiana Garbin

:worship:

Least charismatic in my opinion...

Ana Ivanovic
Maria Sharapova

:tape:

:rolls:

Most charismatic by far is Serena, I agree Vee has 'quiet charisma', and Dementieva is very charming too.

Dav.
Jul 16th, 2009, 06:33 PM
Just YouTube Tatiana's World. All I have to say. :lol:

Tennis Ball
Jul 16th, 2009, 06:37 PM
Capriati

Slutiana
Jul 16th, 2009, 06:42 PM
Just YouTube Tatiana's World. All I have to say. :lol:
:hysteric:

HRHoliviasmith
Jul 16th, 2009, 06:44 PM
Oh.. great argument :) NOw are you out of stupid meaningless tings to say that have nothing to do with players being charismatic or not!?

you can throw out whatever insult you want....doesn't change the fact that they are lacking in the charisma department. :lol: Cute girls though. :kiss:

Cakeisgood
Jul 16th, 2009, 06:51 PM
So essentially, this thread is name your fave and put "is funny and charming" after it.

The Witch-king
Jul 16th, 2009, 07:01 PM
I find Serena, Jankovic, kuznetsova, Safina (KIND OF but not really- in interviews she can be funny and charming but her on court persona is off putting)

before i really knew a few years ago Ivanovic i saw an interview and her personality struck me:... Nowadays she's a bit of a stuck record. Doesn't really say anything interesting.

A.Radwanska seems to have a intriguing personality.

Venus seems to be really cool and fun when you see her in another context like in that Revealed documentary, but she keeps the personality so far from the public the majority of the time that it's hard to really call her charismatic. But i actually like that aspect of her personality.

Vanity Bonfire
Jul 16th, 2009, 07:52 PM
Sveta's pressers are HI-larious!

M-K
Jul 16th, 2009, 09:23 PM
Azarenka's got a little bit of a bad girl vibe that some of us guys find quite charming. I totally get why her name keeps coming up.

Exactly. I didnt say she was the most charismatic player ever at all, but I still think she has some, especially since she started wearing that uhm head band. I mean she is definitely not a boring player without personality.

ZODIAC
Jul 16th, 2009, 10:42 PM
Rafa ,Tsonga ,Monfils are the most charismatic on court of all

Polikarpov
Jul 16th, 2009, 10:50 PM
When you have to explain why a certain player is charismatic, chances are she's not.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Jul 16th, 2009, 10:55 PM
Hantuchova

She is the most popular player on tennisforum. Thanks to her charisma I guess

Dave.
Jul 16th, 2009, 11:03 PM
Nobody has mentioned Mattek? Her interview from Wimbledon last year was hilarious. I always thought of her as one of the more charismatic players.

There's the obvious ones like Lindsay, Hingis, the Sisters. Also I have to say I agree with those mentioning Elena too. and Cibulkova!

The Dawntreader
Jul 16th, 2009, 11:07 PM
Nobody has mentioned Mattek? Her interview from Wimbledon last year was hilarious. I always thought of her as one of the more charismatic players.

There's the obvious ones like Lindsay, Hingis, the Sisters. Also I have to say I agree with those mentioning Elena too. and Cibulkova!

I've gone right off her Dave:(

Ferg
Jul 16th, 2009, 11:16 PM
Venus is very charming and sophisticated. She is very mysterious, which is very attractive.

Serena is very charming and funny. Her divaness is attractive and charismatic to me. Her oncourt and offcourt presence is very charismatic. People always want to know more.

Dinara is cute and charming, which makes her charismatic to me.

Maria is charismatic because the endorsement machine has trained her, but as far as personality is concerned, she doesn't have much of one.

That's about it for me. :shrug:

I dont think you can train charisma on someone, either you're born with it, or you arent.


My answers would be Serena, Venus, Sveta, Sabs, and Tsonga from the ATP. He has bucketloads of it, impossible to leave him out even on this forum.

Dave.
Jul 16th, 2009, 11:19 PM
I've gone right off her Dave:(

Why? I've barely seen anything of her this year so I don't have an opinion yet. :lol:

The Dawntreader
Jul 16th, 2009, 11:25 PM
Why? I've barely seen anything of her this year so I don't have an opinion yet. :lol:

Her and her husband trophy-hunt. Despicable:(

serenafann
Jul 16th, 2009, 11:28 PM
Serena
Venus
Jankovic
Maria

Dominic
Jul 16th, 2009, 11:45 PM
So essentially, this thread is name your fave and put "is funny and charming" after it.

I know lol, I think by looking at Olivia Smith's posts that's probably what she understood.

Ellen Dawson
Jul 16th, 2009, 11:46 PM
Serena, Nadia Petrova and Jelena Jankovic.

Dominic
Jul 16th, 2009, 11:47 PM
you can throw out whatever insult you want....doesn't change the fact that they are lacking in the charisma department. :lol: Cute girls though. :kiss:

My goal is not to insult you but youre not telling me the reasons why you think theyre not charismatic, youre just bashing them with nothing to base yourself on.

HRHoliviasmith
Jul 16th, 2009, 11:47 PM
I know lol, I think by looking at Olivia Smith's posts that's probably what she understood.

:spit: dude...what is your fixation with me? :lol:

nothing has changed since your dissertation...sharapova and ivanovic are UN-charasmatic.

HRHoliviasmith
Jul 17th, 2009, 12:25 AM
Serena, Nadia Petrova and Jelena Jankovic.

these three definitely! azarenka and marat safin...

Golovinjured.
Jul 17th, 2009, 02:05 AM
Is it wrong that I don't find Dementieva particularly charismatic?

miffedmax
Jul 17th, 2009, 02:13 AM
Is it wrong that I don't find Dementieva particularly charismatic?

Probably because she's been described as "a thinking man's sex symbol." :p ;)

Sharapower
Jul 17th, 2009, 02:24 AM
So essentially, this thread is name your fave and put "is funny and charming" after it.
Definitely, anyone wouldn't be a fan of their favorite player if they didn't find her charismatic. By definition "charisma" is the ability to make people your fans.

Dominic
Jul 17th, 2009, 03:32 AM
:spit: dude...what is your fixation with me? :lol:

nothing has changed since your dissertation...sharapova and ivanovic are UN-charasmatic.

You know saying stuff doesn't make it true honey, Sharapova and Ivanovic still get waaaay more attention and draw much much more crowds than 99% of players and you still can't even express why you would think theyre not charismatic.

Golovinjured.
Jul 17th, 2009, 03:36 AM
Probably because she's been described as "a thinking man's sex symbol." :p ;)

:speakles: pwned.

Donny
Jul 17th, 2009, 03:45 AM
Definitely, anyone wouldn't be a fan of their favorite player if they didn't find her charismatic. By definition "charisma" is the ability to make people your fans.

I know it's largely subjective, but there are some players who literally show no vibrance of any sort on the court or in interviews.

HRHoliviasmith
Jul 17th, 2009, 03:51 AM
You know saying stuff doesn't make it true honey, Sharapova and Ivanovic still get waaaay more attention and draw much much more crowds than 99% of players and you still can't even express why you would think theyre not charismatic.

and they are because you say so? :confused:

yeah that means that they're charismatic alright, and you claim to know what you're talking about.... :rolleyes:

whatever, honey.

DefyingGravity
Jul 17th, 2009, 03:53 AM
Serena, Azarenka, Sharapova, Petrova, Ivanovic.

Nicolás89
Jul 17th, 2009, 03:56 AM
Kuznetsova, Serena and I don't know. lol

Dominic
Jul 17th, 2009, 04:34 AM
and they are because you say so? :confused:

yeah that means that they're charismatic alright, and you claim to know what you're talking about.... :rolleyes:

whatever, honey.

Ok now youre saying that Sharapova and Ivanovic dont get media attention and dont draw crowds?! is that a joke?!

Sharapower
Jul 17th, 2009, 04:41 AM
Ok now youre saying that Sharapova and Ivanovic dont get media attention and dont draw crowds?! is that a joke?!
Don't bother, dear. Not worth your energy.

svetaisthebest
Jul 17th, 2009, 05:26 AM
Sveta's pressers are HI-larious!

:lol:I agree:D and to answer the thread starter's question-Sveta:p

HRHoliviasmith
Jul 17th, 2009, 05:54 AM
Ok now youre saying that Sharapova and Ivanovic dont get media attention and dont draw crowds?! is that a joke?!

move on.

Sharapower
Jul 17th, 2009, 06:56 AM
This is the kind of stuff that makes a player look charismatic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=Ad8MxzafMWI

:lol:

comfortably.numb
Jul 17th, 2009, 07:04 PM
Serena, Sveta, Jelena, and Tatiana are all charismatic.

BlameSerena
Jul 17th, 2009, 08:10 PM
This is the kind of stuff that makes a player look charismatic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=Ad8MxzafMWI

:lol:

or this kind of stuff...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4_Mw4Facg0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sgHVPuLjCc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEmi0dHv-Sg&feature=related

:lol:

kkuzzyfan
Jul 18th, 2009, 01:50 AM
Svetlana Kuznetsova She s so funny and very humble

Six Feet Under
Jul 18th, 2009, 01:57 AM
Anna Kournikova
Tatiana Golovin
Serena Williams
Venus Williams
Ana Ivanovic
Martina Hingis

Thats it.

Jankovic on some level, Sharapova has gained some charisma lately.

HAHA. No.

Agree :lol::worship:

azinna
Jul 18th, 2009, 08:39 PM
Serena knows how to get folks watching and reading about tennis, both on and off the court, even when they're ambivalent about her. She can charm the pants off interviewer if she wants to, and get a whole room of journalists laughing. She can also get regular sports news shows to pause and show a clip of a press conference from a non-slam tournament.

That's star-power defined.

terjw
Jul 18th, 2009, 09:19 PM
JJ way way first - well the pre-2009 JJ. She'd make the media guys laugh with some story or other when interviewed. Serena definitely next and I think the most charismatic this year. Then a long gap before anyone else. Those are the two you want to ask a question to if you are a reporter. Since Serena is my least liked player - this is definitely not a "name your fave" thread.

Ana and Masha charismatic :lol:
Ana: "I am most exciting to be nominated as most charismatic player".

Dominic
Jul 18th, 2009, 09:31 PM
Ppl who say Masha and Ivanovic are not charismatic are either a) very very biased against them, b) don't know them well, havent seen alot of them, c) don't really know the actual definition of charismatic.

Nikkiri
Jul 18th, 2009, 09:33 PM
Who gives a shit :lol: :lol: :lol:

watchdogfish
Jul 18th, 2009, 10:10 PM
Radek? :lol:

Nah in seriousness anyone who fits the definition :p:

charisma [kar-rizz-ma, kar-rizz-mat-ik] Noun
the quality or power of an individual to attract, influence, or inspire people

Off the top of my head I'd say Agassi, Safin, Hingis and Serena.

HRHoliviasmith
Jul 19th, 2009, 12:19 AM
Serena knows how to get folks watching and reading about tennis, both on and off the court, even when they're ambivalent about her. She can charm the pants off interviewer if she wants to, and get a whole room of journalists laughing. She can also get regular sports news shows to pause and show a clip of a press conference from a non-slam tournament.

That's star-power defined.

:worship:

HRHoliviasmith
Jul 19th, 2009, 12:20 AM
JJ way way first - well the pre-2009 JJ. She'd make the media guys laugh with some story or other when interviewed. Serena definitely next and I think the most charismatic this year. Then a long gap before anyone else. Those are the two you want to ask a question to if you are a reporter. Since Serena is my least liked player - this is definitely not a "name your fave" thread.

Ana and Masha charismatic :lol:
Ana: "I am most exciting to be nominated as most charismatic player".

:haha:

Donny
Jul 19th, 2009, 12:22 AM
Ppl who say Masha and Ivanovic are not charismatic are either a) very very biased against them, b) don't know them well, havent seen alot of them, c) don't really know the actual definition of charismatic.

Ana's my second favorite player. She one of the nicest player's on tour.. but she is in no way charismatic. You could fall asleep while listening to her is she wasn't so attractive.

HRHoliviasmith
Jul 19th, 2009, 12:22 AM
Ppl who say Masha and Ivanovic are not charismatic are either a) very very biased against them, b) don't know them well, havent seen alot of them, c) don't really know the actual definition of charismatic.

:yawn:

AnomyBC
Jul 19th, 2009, 05:38 AM
I also think the people who are saying Maria and Ana aren't charismatic are either nuts or don't understand what the word "charisma" means. For the record, here's some definitions of the word:

cha·ris·ma
(n.)

1. A rare personal quality attributed to leaders who arouse fervent popular devotion and enthusiasm.
2. Personal magnetism or charm.
3. Extraordinary power and appeal of personality; natural ability to inspire a large following.

If those things don't apply Maria and Ana, then they don't apply to anyone in the WTA. Maria and Ana are easily two of the Top Ten most charismatic players in womens tennis history. Other girls who immediately spring to mind are Suzanne Lenglen, Maureen Connolly, Chris Evert, Anna Kournikova and the Williams sisters. To a lesser extent I'd also throw in Billie Jean King, Monica Seles, Martina Hingis, Kim Clijsters and Jelena Jankovic, as well as perhaps a few lower ranked players.

Donny
Jul 19th, 2009, 06:19 AM
I also think the people who are saying Maria and Ana aren't charismatic are either nuts or don't understand what the word "charisma" means. For the record, here's some definitions of the word:

cha·ris·ma
(n.)

1. A rare personal quality attributed to leaders who arouse fervent popular devotion and enthusiasm.
2. Personal magnetism or charm.
3. Extraordinary power and appeal of personality; natural ability to inspire a large following.

If those things don't apply Maria and Ana, then they don't apply to anyone in the WTA. Maria and Ana are easily two of the Top Ten most charismatic players in womens tennis history. Other girls who immediately spring to mind are Suzanne Lenglen, Maureen Connolly, Chris Evert, Anna Kournikova and the Williams sisters. To a lesser extent I'd also throw in Billie Jean King, Monica Seles, Martina Hingis, Kim Clijsters and Jelena Jankovic, as well as perhaps a few lower ranked players.

That's an overly broad definition.

Using that as the baseline, any attractive player would qualify as charimatic, even if they happened to be a deaf mute.

AnomyBC
Jul 19th, 2009, 06:56 AM
That's an overly broad definition.

Using that as the baseline, any attractive player would qualify as charimatic, even if they happened to be a deaf mute.

I hereby challenge you to find any definition of the word "charisma" where the definition wouldn't apply to Maria and Ana :)

And of course attractiveness alone does not make a person charismatic. Vera Zvonareva, for instance, is a beautiful girl, but she's certainly not charismatic and that's why she gets so much less attention than girls like Maria and Ana (granted they've both won slams and Vera hasn't, but they both got more attention than Vera even before they won slams.)

Harvs
Jul 19th, 2009, 06:59 AM
jankovic..

Donny
Jul 19th, 2009, 07:11 AM
I hereby challenge you to find any definition of the word "charisma" where the definition wouldn't apply to Maria and Ana :)

And of course attractiveness alone does not make a person charismatic. Vera Zvonareva, for instance, is a beautiful girl, but she's certainly not charismatic and that's why she gets so much less attention than girls like Maria and Ana (granted they've both won slams and Vera hasn't, but they both got more attention than Vera even before they won slams.)

If you had a phone conversation with someone who talked like Ana, would you be particularly captivated? none of her interviews ever leaves me wanting more, to put it bluntly. She just doesn't have the X factor needed to woo a crowd.

Max565
Jul 19th, 2009, 10:38 AM
So is this 'charisma' in terms of off-court interviews then?

Coz on the court, of course Maria and Ana are charismatic.

Maria especially for the sheer intensity and determination.

Costanza
Jul 19th, 2009, 11:25 AM
So is this 'charisma' in terms of off-court interviews then?

Coz on the court, of course Maria and Ana are charismatic.

Maria especially for the sheer intensity and determination.

Good point:yeah:

This is,i think, best definition of charisma:
Charisma is often used to describe an elusive, even undefinable personality trait that often includes the seemingly 'supernatural' or uncanny ability to lead, charm, persuade, inspire, and/or influence people. It refers especially to a quality in certain people who easily draw the attention and admiration (or even hatred if the application of such charisma is perceived to be negative) of others due to a 'magnetic' quality of personality and/or appearance. Related terms and phrases include: grace, exuberance, equanimity, mystique, positive energy, joie de vivre, extreme charm, personal magnetism, personal appeal, "electricity," and allure, among many others. Usually many of these specific qualities must be present within a single individual for the person to be considered highly charismatic by the public and their peers.

delicatecutter
Jul 19th, 2009, 11:27 AM
Ana is a lot of things, but charismatic ain't one of them IMO. To me, charisma implies the ability to get people to like you based on your personality. Ana is a very sweet girl (none are sweeter), but she doesn't draw you in and make you feel like you're dying to know what she's going to say next or hanging on her every word.

Think of it as the post-match preferences you're dying to read because you know they'll be fascinating. S.Williams and Jankovic are definitely the two players that spring to my mind. :worship:

In other words: I don't think "charismatic" and "likeable" are interchangeable.

madmax
Jul 19th, 2009, 11:29 AM
again, are we talking about on court charisma, or the players personal characteristics? Because I doubt many if any of us have a chance to know these players in their every day life, so any speculations about their charisma or lack of leads nowhere. Maria Sharapova is ultra-charismatic on court, you got to be blind or deaf not to see the energy and effort she brings every single match. Almost the same applies for Ivanovic as well. Other girls who are oozing charisma include Michelle Larcher and Vika Azarenka as well

Zébulon
Jul 19th, 2009, 12:47 PM
In other words: I don't think "charismatic" and "likeable" are interchangeable.

True. To me charisma doesn't mean everybody around can't help but like you. Rather that when you're in a room/place/court, people know it, not cause you're beautiful, sexy, showing plenty of skin :rolleyes: but because of your sheer "presence". That doesn't mean you're likeable, just that there's some sort of intensity about you which draws people's attention. It's not about wanting attention either. :scratch:
One player I see with charisma as I understand it is Serena. I've never seen her in person and I'm not really a fan, but it seems to me it's someone, on court, for example, whose mere presence is kinda formidable, intense, etc... But then, noone seems to mean the same thing by charisma nowadays, it's lost meaning. :shrug:

Max565
Jul 19th, 2009, 03:03 PM
ON-COURT = Maria Sharapova, Serena, Venus, Jelena Jankovic (to a certain extent)
OFF - COURT = Serena, Jelena, Caroline (her Eastbourne speech really impressed me), honourable mention to a retired player - Martina Hingis.

WowWow
Jul 19th, 2009, 04:01 PM
Sharpie
JJ
Serena

Hugo24
Jul 19th, 2009, 04:24 PM
Amelie, Svetlana , Tsonga

AnomyBC
Jul 19th, 2009, 07:50 PM
If you had a phone conversation with someone who talked like Ana, would you be particularly captivated? none of her interviews ever leaves me wanting more, to put it bluntly. She just doesn't have the X factor needed to woo a crowd.

That last sentence is totally ridiculous. Ana has that "X factor" more so than just about any other player who's ever played. As far as the way she talks, I think I actually enjoy listening to the way she talks more so than any other player---even Sharapova, who's my favorite. Ana, I think, has a way of making even the blandest comments sound cute and funny and endearing. I don't see how anyone could question the fact that she's one of the most charming and captivating players on tour personality-wise. And if you're suggesting that she wouldn't be as captivating over the phone, I'm sure that's true, but that's probably true of everyone. Barack Obama probably isn't as captivating over the phone either :lol:

Alex03Maccy
Jul 19th, 2009, 08:11 PM
momo, kuzzy, rena, vee

terjw
Jul 19th, 2009, 11:10 PM
That last sentence is totally ridiculous. Ana has that "X factor" more so than just about any other player who's ever played. As far as the way she talks, I think I actually enjoy listening to the way she talks more so than any other player---even Sharapova, who's my favorite. Ana, I think, has a way of making even the blandest comments sound cute and funny and endearing. I don't see how anyone could question the fact that she's one of the most charming and captivating players on tour personality-wise. And if you're suggesting that she wouldn't be as captivating over the phone, I'm sure that's true, but that's probably true of everyone. Barack Obama probably isn't as captivating over the phone either :lol:


:haha:
Charming and cute isn't the same as charisma. Yeah she's cute the first time you hear her. But every f**ing thing she says is bland bland bland. And being cute but bland and boring.is not charismatic.


On Masha - after reading the posts on off-court / on-court - I have to change what I said and give her she has charisma on-court. But off court :lol::lol:. Bland bland bland except one time when I remember her once trying to tell a joke about chocolate I think. Forget how it went - anyone remember. It didn't have a punchline and met with unbelief and silence.

CloudAtlas
Jul 19th, 2009, 11:21 PM
Good charismatic :

Serena Williams - if she's playing to win there will never be a dull match , unless you actively dislike her.

Maria Sharapova - ditto

Jelena Jankovic - '06 to'08


Bad charismatic :

Victoria Azarenka - I'm pretty sure one day she will actually murder someone on the court as a result of a bad line call.

Dinara Safina - her FO 2009 SF was more of an excercise in how many languages she can curse in rather than a tennis match.

OsloErik
Jul 19th, 2009, 11:31 PM
I've always felt Sharapova is a bit of a cold character on court. It works really well for her (and Borg, and Venus), but it isn't charisma. Off court, Sharapova is very charismatic. But on court she's just dull. Powerful and loud, but dull.

Personally, I think Ivanovic is just the opposite. The fist pumps and incessant "adje"s are annoying to a lot of people, but the crowd really can feel the momentum of the match. Off court, though, she's pretty much vacant and comes across as inauthentic. Even when talking about how much trouble she's had in her career the past year, she's got this big smile (lovely smile, but oddly disconcerting since it's so out of place) and you get the sense she has no idea what is going on. I'm sure she's truly nice and genuinely pleasant to be around, but she just doesn't seem too bright. Capriati had the same streak to her, only she had a mean streak too. Charismatic on court, dull off court. They both are probably as intelligent as any other tennis player, but they don't express it well. Ivanovic has the English-as-a-second-language excuse, but Capriati doesn't.

OsloErik
Jul 19th, 2009, 11:37 PM
...And if you're suggesting that she wouldn't be as captivating over the phone, I'm sure that's true, but that's probably true of everyone. Barack Obama probably isn't as captivating over the phone either :lol:

Depends. Does Barack get to use a teleprompter? :devil:

Donny
Jul 19th, 2009, 11:44 PM
:haha:
Charming and cute isn't the same as charisma. Yeah she's cute the first time you hear her. But every f**ing thing she says is bland bland bland. And being cute but bland and boring.is not charismatic.


On Masha - after reading the posts on off-court / on-court - I have to change what I said and give her she has charisma on-court. But off court :lol::lol:. Bland bland bland except one time when I remember her once trying to tell a joke about chocolate I think. Forget how it went - anyone remember. It didn't have a punchline and met with unbelief and silence.

I agree completely with this.

FrenchY52
Jul 19th, 2009, 11:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nzt4zLeFeLE&feature=related
:inlove:

AnomyBC
Jul 20th, 2009, 12:05 AM
:haha:
Charming and cute isn't the same as charisma. Yeah she's cute the first time you hear her. But every f**ing thing she says is bland bland bland. And being cute but bland and boring.is not charismatic.

A lot of what she says is bland and uninteresting on paper, but a person with great charisma can say things like that and still captivate people. For instance, Barack Obama could go on TV and spend 2 hours reading from a dictionary and I would still be totally captivated. He could even start talking in a made-up language if he wanted to and I'd still hang on his every word like it was a nugget of gold raining down from heaven. For me at least, it's the same thing with Ana. She could give all her interviews in Serbian and I'd still watch them from start to finish. All it takes is seeing her smile and her eyes and hearing the sound of her voice and I'm totally hooked. That's what charisma is. It's not about what the person is saying, it's about having a special kind of personality that can capture and hold the attention of everyone in a room. If you were standing in a room with a group of people and Ana Ivanovic walked in every other person in that room would immediately cease to exist. She wouldn't even have to say anything. All she would have to do is smile or move her eyes in your general direction and that would be it. You'd just be standing there, watching her, mesmerized, as if even her slightest movement could hold life or death consequences. That is what charisma is. And Ana is one person who certainly has it.

AnomyBC
Jul 20th, 2009, 12:08 AM
Depends. Does Barack get to use a teleprompter? :devil:

You wouldn't need a teleprompter while talking on a phone. You could just as easily read from a piece of paper :)

OsloErik
Jul 20th, 2009, 12:10 AM
You wouldn't need a teleprompter while talking on a phone. You could just as easily read from a piece of paper :)

:worship:

And then you wouldn't even notice that he's only looking at two places in the crowd!

xan
Jul 20th, 2009, 12:59 AM
The charismatic players are the ones used to promote tennis.

Look, say, at players who have appeared on the covers of Tennis Video Games, the ones they think will encourage people to but the games... That list has been
Maria
Serena
Venus
Martina Hingis

xan
Jul 20th, 2009, 01:04 AM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61o24GCV3gL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

http://onthebaseline.com/uploads/grand_slam_tennis_wii.jpg

http://blog.jr.com/images//top_spin_3.jpg

xan
Jul 20th, 2009, 01:09 AM
Those who say Maria is bland or boring off-court and in interviews, haven't paid attention to what she says. She is often sharp, funny, amusing and charismatic. Some samples:

Q. What about your outfit here at Wimbledon this year? Anything special about it?
MARIA SHARAPOVA: Yeah, it's Swan Lake inspired.
Q. I have no clue what that means.
MARIA SHARAPOVA: When you see it, you'll see a swan. You'll be inspired. My coach saw it the other day and he said he started feeding bread to it, so he got it

Q. At the French Open I saw your dad laughing and smiling.
MARIA SHARAPOVA: Really? Shocking

Just a shout out to the weather people here in England. Their daily weather predictions are quite amusing.....showers with a few sun spells in between, gust winds with a chance of a thunderstorm through the evening. So what they're saying is that it's going to be rainy, sunny, windy, and possibly dangerous....ALL in ONE day. They've pretty much covered all the possibilities.....must be nice to know that you're never wrong!

From QF Interview Rome, May 2008, after beating Schnyder
Q. Do you consider the match against Jankovic the real final of this tournament?
MARIA SHARAPOVA: No. It's the semifinal.

After US Open 2007
"I didn't leave my mom at the age of 7 for nothing. I didn't spend 6 hours a day practicing in the Florida sun at the age of 9 for nothing. I didn't spend those extra hours on the back courts with my dad figuring out if I'm going to play right-handed or left-handed for nothing. I didn't sleep in little cods for 3 years eating oatmeal out of a packet, while playing ITF's in the middle of nowhere for nothing. And I certainly didn't sit at the kitchen table, way past dinner, perfecting Russian essays and math equations until they met my mother's standards, for nothing. All this has helped me build character and there's no greater asset than being able to stand up for yourself. No matter how many losses I will have in my career, I will always know what has brought me to this point.....and that's hard work."

KournikovaFan91
Jul 20th, 2009, 02:51 AM
I prefer more slutty quotes :lol:

KOURNIKOVA
"I have a lot of boyfriends, I want you to write that. Every country I visit, I have a different boyfriend. And I kiss them all. "

"At this year's Open, I'll have five boyfriends. "

:lol:


But I agree Sharapova is funny in some interview. :) Especially the Weather one and in Rome :lol:

I always hate when commentators say some match is the real final when it isn't :rolleyes:

Six Feet Under
Jul 20th, 2009, 02:54 AM
Jankovic is definitely the most charismatic, on and off the court :)

Dav.
Jul 20th, 2009, 02:59 AM
Sharapova was very charismatic after winning Wimbledon, (Yes, at 17, Ted).

Hard to forget the interviews and the attempt to phone mama on Yuri's phone.

new-york
Jul 20th, 2009, 03:11 AM
I love Ana but she is not charismatic at all.

Venus imposes herself quietly.
She's a lady.

Serena has a lot of perso, her charisma on court is obvious and she's a real force.

Jelena's fun, i guess she has some.

Maria Sharapova, in interviews sometimes.

new-york
Jul 20th, 2009, 03:12 AM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61o24GCV3gL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

http://onthebaseline.com/uploads/grand_slam_tennis_wii.jpg

http://blog.jr.com/images//top_spin_3.jpg

Fedebangs doesn't scream charisma AT ALL.
But being great at what you do and just that has to be rewarded.

Maria is not as charismatic as bankable.

AnomyBC
Jul 20th, 2009, 05:11 AM
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]I love Ana but she is not charismatic at all.

Again, let me repeat some definitions of the word "charisma":

cha·ris·ma
(n.)

1. A rare personal quality attributed to leaders who arouse fervent popular devotion and enthusiasm.
2. Personal magnetism or charm.
3. Extraordinary power and appeal of personality; natural ability to inspire a large following.

Like I said before, there's only a handful of people in the long history of women's tennis that could fit those definitions better than Ana. In terms of active players there's Serena and Sharapova and maybe Jankovic and Venus, but that's about it. I mean, Ana may not be on the same level as Barack Obama or Jim Jones or Oprah or something, but she's certainly a hell of a lot more charismatic than players like Safina, Kuznetsova, Zvonareva, Petrova, Radwanska, Bartoli, etc. And it might be a little early to judge, but so far I think she's more charismatic than Azarenka and Wozniacki as well. (And so far I also think she's far more charismatic than her clone-in-waiting, Sorana Cirstea.) And for the record, beauty only plays a small part in this. I think dozens of players are beautiful, but the only ones (at least in terms of active players) that I think are charismatic are Sharapova and Ivanovic. They have the sort of captivating personalities that I think are missing, at least so far, from other beauties like Wozniacki and Cirstea.

FrenchY52
Jul 20th, 2009, 10:28 AM
I prefer more slutty quotes :lol:

KOURNIKOVA
"I have a lot of boyfriends, I want you to write that. Every country I visit, I have a different boyfriend. And I kiss them all. "

"At this year's Open, I'll have five boyfriends. "



:lol::lol: I didn't know she said that. Anna is so wonderful :hearts:

Sharapower
Jul 20th, 2009, 10:51 AM
The players I like are charismatic, those I dislike are bland. And if you don't agree with me, you're just a brainfarting moron.

Ellen Dawson
Jul 20th, 2009, 11:11 PM
Again, let me repeat some definitions of the word "charisma":

cha·ris·ma
(n.)

1. A rare personal quality attributed to leaders who arouse fervent popular devotion and enthusiasm.
2. Personal magnetism or charm.
3. Extraordinary power and appeal of personality; natural ability to inspire a large following.

Like I said before, there's only a handful of people in the long history of women's tennis that could fit those definitions better than Ana. In terms of active players there's Serena and Sharapova and maybe Jankovic and Venus, but that's about it. I mean, Ana may not be on the same level as Barack Obama or Jim Jones or Oprah or something, but she's certainly a hell of a lot more charismatic than players like Safina, Kuznetsova, Zvonareva, Petrova, Radwanska, Bartoli, etc. And it might be a little early to judge, but so far I think she's more charismatic than Azarenka and Wozniacki as well. (And so far I also think she's far more charismatic than her clone-in-waiting, Sorana Cirstea.) And for the record, beauty only plays a small part in this. I think dozens of players are beautiful, but the only ones (at least in terms of active players) that I think are charismatic are Sharapova and Ivanovic. They have the sort of captivating personalities that I think are missing, at least so far, from other beauties like Wozniacki and Cirstea.

I wouldn't include Maria Sharapova. She's bland on and off the court.

ZODIAC
Jul 21st, 2009, 05:02 AM
Ana to me is too childish for my liking,I cant listen to her when she speaks.She is always jumbling her words and there is no substance at least Sharapova makes sense when she is being interviewed.

miffedmax
Jul 21st, 2009, 12:39 PM
TOB has the advantage of being--almost--a native English speaker. (Though few people could mangle their way through an English sentence with as much charm as Nastya Myskina).

But let's face it. If you ask outside this board, you're quickly going to narrow it down to the Williams sisters and TOB.

You can make a case for other players to be in the second tier of charismatic players, and their is certainly going to be some shuffling on basis of nationality and where you ask the question. Certainly, most of the players on this board with major followings have some level of charisma, or they wouldn't be popular.

But when it comes to "bigger than the sport" those three are really it.

Blackeagle
Jul 21st, 2009, 12:43 PM
Svetlana Kuznetsova
Caroline Wozniacki
Flavia Pennetta
Agnieszka Radwanska
Sam Stosur
Francesca Schiavone
Sabine Lisicki
Alona Bondarenko
Iveta Benesova
Polona Hercog

Langers
Jul 21st, 2009, 02:23 PM
Alize Cornet most certainly.