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TheBoiledEgg
Jul 14th, 2009, 03:35 PM
Zarina wins the battle of the 1993 girls :woohoo: :D :)

Geoffrey91
Jul 14th, 2009, 03:35 PM
:tape: Kristina defeated 2 good players in qualifying draw and now losing to Diyas in first round is quite pathetic. Her serve seemed really poor today.

Still no win in WTA MD for Kristina :sad:

iPatty
Jul 14th, 2009, 03:36 PM
Zarina :worship: :worship: :worship:

Way too much class for Mladenovic. Junior results mean nothing if you can't back them on the pro circuit.

It's about time people started paying attention to this youngster from Kazakhstan.

spiceboy
Jul 14th, 2009, 03:36 PM
Zarina :eek: :eek: :bounce:

TheBoiledEgg
Jul 14th, 2009, 03:37 PM
Zarina is ranked higher, with 3 less tourns
now pulls further away :) :D

Nicolas
Jul 14th, 2009, 03:37 PM
Diyas is the real deal :banana:

Rui.
Jul 14th, 2009, 03:38 PM
Are they second and third ranked from the 1993 girls?

Anyway good win :yeah:

willrock
Jul 14th, 2009, 03:40 PM
Come on... This is nothing pathetic :rolleyes:.
Kiki was presumably tired from her 3 previous matches the last two day. Plus, I guess her knee still hurts. She'll win her first WTA match soon. This first WTA MD appearance is already an achievement!

Diyas is younger than her, credits to the Kazakh girl

Geoffrey91
Jul 14th, 2009, 03:41 PM
Way too much class for Mladenovic. Junior results mean nothing if you can't back them on the pro circuit.



Kristina's results on pro circuit are better than Zarina's. Kristina has 2 wins over Top 100 players (Kutuzova & Coin) and beat some Top 200 players as Tatishvili & Zahlavova. She was also really close to beat Schnyder & Rybarikova.

Zarina's ranking is higher than Kristina's thanks to easy draws in Japan tournaments and Kristina crushed Zarina 60 63 in Foggia some monthes ago .

Drake1980
Jul 14th, 2009, 03:42 PM
:eek:
I guess this girl is good.

Warrior
Jul 14th, 2009, 03:42 PM
Great win Zarina! :yeah:

Alizé Molik
Jul 14th, 2009, 03:42 PM
Kristina's results on pro circuit are better than Zarina's. Kristina has 2 wins over Top 100 players (Kutuzova & Coin) and beat some Top 200 players as Tatishvili & Zahlavova. She was also really close to beat Schnyder & Rybarikova.

Zarina's ranking is higher than Kristina's thanks to easy draws in Japan tournaments and Kristina crushed Zarina 60 63 in Foggia some monthes ago .

this. Tough day for Kiki, not sure if her knee troubles her.

Geoffrey91
Jul 14th, 2009, 03:42 PM
Are they second and third ranked from the 1993 girls?


;)

Kai
Jul 14th, 2009, 03:43 PM
congrats Zarina :yeah: :D

iPatty
Jul 14th, 2009, 03:43 PM
Kristina's results on pro circuit are better than Zarina's. Kristina has 2 wins over Top 100 players (Kutuzova & Coin) and beat some Top 200 players as Tatishvili & Zahlavova. She was also really close to beat Schnyder & Rybarikova.

Zarina's ranking is higher than Kristina's thanks to easy draws in Japan tournaments and Kristina crushed Zarina 60 63 in Foggia some monthes ago .

She has gotten a lot of hype recently due to beating some scrubs in juniors while Diyas has two pro titles to her name (two more than Mladenovic). I think it's clear who has the better pro results. Who cares what the result in some $10K was? Diyas just "crushed" Mladenovic 64 61 today.

They are both fine players and will become the best of the '93 generation eventually. No need to start a war between fanbases just because Kristina lost against Zarina (it's not the first time, anyway).

Alizé Molik
Jul 14th, 2009, 03:46 PM
She has gotten a lot of hype recently due to beating some scrubs in juniors while Diyas has two pro titles to her name (two more than Mladenovic). I think it's clear who has the better pro results. Who cares what the result in some $10K was? Diyas just "crushed" Mladenovic 64 61 today.

They are both fine players and will become the best of the '93 generation eventually. No need to start a war between fanbases just because Kristina lost against Zarina (it's not the first time, anyway).

Don't lecture him about not starting a fan war when you flamed the thread to begin with, no need to congratulate Diyas while insinuating Mladenovic is an overhyped player when she has just as many promising results, it was just uncalled for. :shrug:

Iceland
Jul 14th, 2009, 03:47 PM
Disappointing coming from Roland-Garros champion and a dad serving day :help: but I think Diyas is really good (even if she's pretty inconsistent).Good on the 15yo for reaching the 2nd round in the city she trains in. She has surely a chance against Petra.
As regards Kiki, a break wouldn't be a bad idea.

Geoffrey91
Jul 14th, 2009, 03:50 PM
She has gotten a lot of hype recently due to beating some scrubs in juniors while Diyas has two pro titles to her name (two more than Mladenovic). I think it's clear who has the better pro results. Who cares what the result in some $10K was? Diyas just "crushed" Mladenovic 64 61 today.

They are both fine players and will become the best of the '93 generation eventually. No need to start a war between fanbases just because Kristina lost against Zarina (it's not the first time, anyway).

I don't think titles reveals who has better results.

For exemple Parmentier has 2 titles (Tashkent & Bad Gastein) while Golovin has just one title (Portoroz) but I don't think we can say Parmentier had better results :lol:

Anyway I agree with you. Both players are the best player of 93 generation with De Brito & Stephens.

iPatty
Jul 14th, 2009, 03:50 PM
Don't lecture him about not starting a fan war when you flamed the thread to begin with, no need to congratulate Diyas while insinuating Mladenovic is an overhyped player when she has just as many promising results, it was just uncalled for. :shrug:

She is not overhyped. I said she received a lot of hype, didn't say it was unwarranted. Fact of the matter is that Mladenovic was not able to beat Diyas who does not mess around much with juniors. I was merely making a claim that junior results don't really mean much at the end of the day. The Mladenovic fans who are running around posting that it is "pathetic" that she could lose to Diyas are the ones I directed that comment at.

I wasn't trying to start a fight or anything, just showing that just because Diyas does not receive a lot of attention doesn't mean she is a player that is "pathetic" to lose against.

Andreas
Jul 14th, 2009, 03:54 PM
I don't think titles reveals who has better results.

For exemple Parmentier has 2 titles (Tashkent & Bad Gastein) while Golovin has just one title (Portoroz) but I don't think we can say Parmentier had better results :lol:

Anyway I agree with you. Both players are the best player of 93 generation with De Brito & Stephens.

She actually has 2 - she also won Amelia Island in 2007.

Vaidisova Ruled
Jul 14th, 2009, 04:04 PM
Who is that Diyas girl :tape:?

Mladenovic was beaten by a girl who is younger than her, and last time she met her, kristina beat her 60 63 (this year):confused:

Andiyan
Jul 14th, 2009, 04:19 PM
Zarina :worship: she's gonna be huge :D

améliemomo
Jul 14th, 2009, 04:28 PM
very disappointing from kiki who managed to fight hard in qualies to play in MD.

Dont know what happened but yes, she better cure this knee and take some rest,only come back when she's at 100%.

Uranus
Jul 14th, 2009, 04:45 PM
Who is that Diyas girl :tape:?
Good junior player, very successful in U16 tournaments mostly, won 2 ITFs and 2nd highest ranked 1993 player.

She was also really close to beat Schnyder & Rybarikova.
Getting WCs into GSs is a huge advantage. Zarina doesn't come from France and doesn't have this chance (or she should become French, like Kristina and most 'French' sports(wo)men do).

Nicolas
Jul 14th, 2009, 04:50 PM
Mladenovic is born in France, she didn't "become" French :rolleyes:

Ciarán
Jul 14th, 2009, 04:51 PM
Zarina wins the battle of the 1993 girls :woohoo: :D :)

Easily :p

Geoffrey91
Jul 14th, 2009, 04:59 PM
Good junior player, very successful in U16 tournaments mostly, won 2 ITFs and 2nd highest ranked 1993 player.


Getting WCs into GSs is a huge advantage. Zarina doesn't come from France and doesn't have this chance (or she should become French, like Kristina and most 'French' sports(wo)men do).

When you're born in France, you're French :)
And almost all foreigner who became French grew up in France and feel French.

Playing & winning tournaments in Kazakhstan hasn't really great :lol:

Brena
Jul 14th, 2009, 05:02 PM
Speaking of players' origins - where is Diyas from? Diyas doesn't sound particularly Kazakh... :scratch:
Her first name is very interesting, too. Tzar's Daughter. :cool:

Petkorazzi
Jul 14th, 2009, 05:12 PM
When you're born in France, you're French :)
And almost all foreigner who became French grew up in France and feel French.

Playing & winning tournaments in Kazakhstan hasn't really great :lol:
Being born in a country doesn't change your ancestry FYI. :haha:

Uranus
Jul 14th, 2009, 05:22 PM
Mladenovic is born in France, she didn't "become" French :rolleyes:
Sorry bud ;).

I just wanted to point out that a lot of French athletes are foreigners who came because it has everything for youngsters to develop in their sport or such reasons. Of course it's a great thing for the country but too bad they can't seem to make local talents good athletes.

Iceland
Jul 14th, 2009, 05:28 PM
It's a bit easy to despise Kristina's achievements just because she lost one match against another young player.
What's wrong with winning junior Grand Slams now? I'm sorry but winning such a prestigious event is certainly more impressive than a 25k. Btw in the same event Kristina won by beating poor players, Diyas lost 62 61 to the same Gavrilova Kristina defeated 63 62.

Anyway Kiki got 3 victories here, let's not forget that... Im a bit sad that people just took this occasion to start 'bashing' Kristina.

Geoffrey91
Jul 14th, 2009, 05:30 PM
Sorry bud ;).

I just wanted to point out that a lot of French athletes are foreigners who came because it has everything for youngsters to develop in their sport or such reasons. Of course it's a great thing for the country but too bad they can't seem to make local talents good athletes.

Mauresmo, Cornet, Razzano, Gasquet, Monfils, Tsonga, Simon aren't local talents ?

Some youngsters are training in France and there aren't French : Gavrilova, Pavlyuchenkova & A.Bogdan. Kristina feels herself as French more than Serbian because she lived & grew up in France.

Iceland
Jul 14th, 2009, 05:31 PM
Sorry bud ;).

I just wanted to point out that a lot of French athletes are foreigners who came because it has everything for youngsters to develop in their sport or such reasons. Of course it's a great thing for the country but too bad they can't seem to make local talents good athletes.
I don't see why it might be a problem... Same thing for Australia, United-States, even Kazakhstan! I mean Kristina learned how to play tennis in France not in Serbia. Good on the French school of tennis, then.

Slutiana
Jul 14th, 2009, 05:31 PM
She actually has 2 - she also won Amelia Island in 2007.
:crying2:


And lets wait to see if there are any reports before jumping the gun about this "too much class" thing. :tape:

Petkorazzi
Jul 14th, 2009, 05:33 PM
Mauresmo, Cornet, Razzano, Gasquet, Monfils, Tsonga, Simon aren't local talents ?
We are talking about the new generation here so Mauresmo and Razzano don't really fit. :lol:

améliemomo
Jul 14th, 2009, 05:34 PM
Being born in a country doesn't change your ancestry FYI. :haha:

OMG not another dumb discussion about nationalities:weirdo:

Geoffrey91
Jul 14th, 2009, 05:38 PM
We are talking about the new generation here so Mauresmo and Razzano don't really fit. :lol:

:o Wait for Cascino & Jeanjean. I'm expecting some successes for these girls.

Petkorazzi
Jul 14th, 2009, 05:40 PM
:o Wait for Cascino & Jeanjean. I'm expecting some successes for these girls.
Cascino is an Italian last name if you haven't noticed by the way. :lol: So you're like contradicting yourself. :p

Nicolas
Jul 14th, 2009, 05:43 PM
Sorry bud ;).

I just wanted to point out that a lot of French athletes are foreigners who came because it has everything for youngsters to develop in their sport or such reasons. Of course it's a great thing for the country but too bad they can't seem to make local talents good athletes.


Are you kidding me?

Iceland
Jul 14th, 2009, 05:44 PM
Cascino is an Italian last name if you haven't noticed by the way. :lol: So you're like contradicting yourself. :p
You're getting stupid here...

améliemomo
Jul 14th, 2009, 05:47 PM
Cascino is an Italian last name if you haven't noticed by the way. :lol: So you're like contradicting yourself. :p

eh oh toc toc is there someone out there? you know France is not about only people with "french sound names", France is a country who had many immigration from other countries around it. Italians are one of them. Its a melting pot like it is in the USA.
Melting pot, something eastern people cant understand I guess. Need some history classes.

Serena has african roots so go tell her she's not american and you'll see what s gonna tell you.

Hakapeszi
Jul 14th, 2009, 05:53 PM
Zarina Diyas

http://fotos.rd52.de/albums/haupt09/Diyas_Zarina_Medium.sized.jpg

She won $25.000 Stuttgart a week before.

http://fotos.rd52.de/albums/Impressionen09/Sieger_Einzel.sized.jpg

maxomax
Jul 14th, 2009, 05:53 PM
Wow good win for Diyas :eek: :D

SVK
Jul 14th, 2009, 05:53 PM
Congrats Zarina:yeah:

I think this loss isn´t so unexpected, Zarina is higher as Kristina:shrug:
And Zarina isn´t so famous as Kristina just because she played usually ITF tournaments...both are very solid junior players and I think both will be very high in future...Zarina hasn´t a WC for nothing there, this loss isn´t a shame for Kristina.

KournikovaFan91
Jul 14th, 2009, 06:13 PM
Great to see more success from Kaz.

I hope we get that Tennis Kazakhstan forum ;)

KournikovaFan91
Jul 14th, 2009, 06:17 PM
Being born in a country doesn't change your ancestry FYI. :haha:

That means McEnroe and Connors would both be Irish and we would have a few singles slams.

Not to mention Shaugnessey, Katie O'Brien, etc.:worship:

TheBoiledEgg
Jul 14th, 2009, 06:20 PM
That means McEnroe and Connors would both be Irish and we would have a few singles slams.

Not to mention Shaugnessey, Katie O'Brien, etc.:worship:

on the other side......... McEnroe would be German :lol:

Ballbasher
Jul 14th, 2009, 06:24 PM
Now reaston blame players: Playing for GS holding countries and getting WCs, although being born there!
I think we can expect both to break Top100 at least and both will be successful!
Why do people not complain that Diyas got a WC although she is from Kazakhstan! :rolleyes:

KournikovaFan91
Jul 14th, 2009, 06:26 PM
IMO I think giving home country players WCs is unfair especially if almost all are given to them.

Like Irish players never get even ITF WCs, except Madill did get a qualiy WC once in Spain.

Uranium
Jul 14th, 2009, 06:30 PM
That means McEnroe and Connors would both be Irish and we would have a few singles slams.

Not to mention Shaugnessey, Katie O'Brien, etc.:worship:

Shaughnessy;)

KournikovaFan91
Jul 14th, 2009, 06:35 PM
I can never spell that name :lol:

LCS
Jul 14th, 2009, 06:48 PM
Michelle Brito? :confused:

Vaidisova Ruled
Jul 14th, 2009, 07:02 PM
Can someone tell how Diyas is playing?

Warrior
Jul 14th, 2009, 07:52 PM
I'd really like to see a clip of her playing.

Alizé Molik
Jul 15th, 2009, 05:06 AM
That means McEnroe and Connors would both be Irish and we would have a few singles slams.

Not to mention Shaugnessey, Katie O'Brien, etc.:worship:

and australia would have never had a player at all except for Evonne Goolangong! :o and even she wasn't full blooded aboriginal i believe. :help:

PerfectForm
Jul 15th, 2009, 05:26 AM
I'd really like to see a clip of her playing.

There are several clips of her playing on the czech tennis website, I'm not too sure of the URL. Those clips were taken when she was about 14 years old.

Slavasay
Jul 15th, 2009, 06:08 AM
Speaking of players' origins - where is Diyas from? Diyas doesn't sound particularly Kazakh... :scratch:
Her first name is very interesting, too. Tzar's Daughter. :cool:

She was born in Almaty and she is Kazakh, her name is a very typical for Kazakhstan.

Zarina translated from Arabic 'gold'.

PerfectForm
Jul 15th, 2009, 06:41 AM
http://www.protenis.cz/video/clip.php?vid=1330

clip of Diyas vs Kristina

LudwigDvorak
Jul 15th, 2009, 07:07 AM
My last name is Rosario. My heritage is Puerto Rican, but I don't speak Spanish and I've never set foot in Puerto Rico. Like hell I'm Puerto Rican. :help:

Having watched the clip, Mladenovic is going to be a pain in the ass with that animal sound she emits. Diyas is young, and her game is very raw as to be expected, but she has a solid appearance from what I could tell. Forehand has good technique and follow through, backhand is much weaker but gets low on it which helps. Her service motion will get better, it starts and ends well but in the middle she's just standing there. Even still, she gets good racket head speed on the ball. Aggressive counterpuncher seems to be her style so far, will see how she develops in a few years and if that description will still fit her.

Brena
Jul 15th, 2009, 09:54 AM
She was born in Almaty and she is Kazakh, her name is a very typical for Kazakhstan.

Zarina translated from Arabic 'gold'.

Hey, thanks!
I thought the Kazakh surnames ended in -ov/-ova, like Akgul's. Plus Diyas sounded so Spanish, that it had me completely confused.
Also, her first name is really pretty!

Vaidisova Ruled
Jul 15th, 2009, 10:04 AM
http://www.protenis.cz/video/clip.php?vid=1330

clip of Diyas vs Kristina
Thank you
Kristina has a really fast serve but it's not a huge weapon: Diyas didn't have any problem with returns.

Hayato
Jul 15th, 2009, 10:26 AM
Zarina :hearts:
A "real" Kazakh player, not like Shvedova, Karatancheva...
And a beauty at that :) Great score!

Hayato
Jul 15th, 2009, 10:28 AM
She was born in Almaty and she is Kazakh, her name is a very typical for Kazakhstan.

Zarina translated from Arabic 'gold'.

Yes, and she looks very Kazakh. Her eyes and cheekbones especially. Hopefully she can live up to her promise more than Amina Rakhim has done lately...:sad:...although maybe Zarina has a bit more...

Привет
Jul 15th, 2009, 11:09 AM
I watched the vid, and she has a nice game. I could definitely enjoy watching her play. :) That said, I'm not a fan, yet... :lol:

This was a nice win for her. :yeah:

Andiyan
Jul 15th, 2009, 12:43 PM
Amina Rakhim

:bigcry:

Sharpie4me
Jul 15th, 2009, 01:18 PM
Zarina looks very tiny to me. 1.50? :unsure:

Warrior
Jul 15th, 2009, 02:00 PM
http://www.protenis.cz/video/clip.php?vid=1330

clip of Diyas vs Kristina


She has good groundstrokes, but she really needs to change that service motion.

Meelis
Jul 15th, 2009, 02:04 PM
Zarina looks very tiny to me. 1.50? :unsure:

1.69m according to ITF.

iPatty
Jul 15th, 2009, 04:42 PM
The way she makes sure she finishes her stroke before recovering to the middle of the court is very impressive for a 15-year old. Yes, her service motion needs a lot of work but she can still get some 'pop' on her first serve. Looks to be a good mover and showed nice positive emotion.

Slutiana
Jul 15th, 2009, 07:50 PM
Kristina was either hitting every ball to the middle of the court or hitting it out. :help: