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Ferg
Jul 13th, 2009, 04:07 PM
Marion :hearts: Time to move on from that WImbledon disaster and play amazing now again. It seems shes planning on playing an amazing 7 weeks ina row, playing at Stanford, LA, Cinncinati, Toronto and New Haven, then the US Open. The way shes playing this year im hoping she could pull off maybe 15 wins over this 7 weeks period at least, since its traditionally Marions best few weeks on tour. And seeing how well shes done for traditionally her weakest part of the year (Aus, Middle East and clay), im relatively confident of a good haul here. She has big points to defend now, 380 at Stanford, 390 at Montreal, 140 at New Haven and 280 at the US Open. But even if she doesnt do so well as she did last year in Stanford and Toronto, im very hopeful her lack of points from Cinci and LA will help her keep her ranking in the top 15. Following the US Open she has avery little to defend and a place at YEC in Dubai or Bali beckon. Stanford is a much harder field then last year but she'll be seeded 7 or 8 so with a good draw could well make the semis or final again. Looking forward to watching her play a lot now! As long as she doesnt tire herself out too much, but she'll know best herself.

Allez Marion! :bounce:

Marionated
Jul 14th, 2009, 08:19 PM
Marion :hearts: Time to move on from that WImbledon disaster and play amazing now again. It seems shes planning on playing an amazing 7 weeks ina row, playing at Stanford, LA, Cinncinati, Toronto and New Haven, then the US Open. The way shes playing this year im hoping she could pull off maybe 15 wins over this 7 weeks period at least, since its traditionally Marions best few weeks on tour. And seeing how well shes done for traditionally her weakest part of the year (Aus, Middle East and clay), im relatively confident of a good haul here. She has big points to defend now, 380 at Stanford, 390 at Montreal, 140 at New Haven and 280 at the US Open. But even if she doesnt do so well as she did last year in Stanford and Toronto, im very hopeful her lack of points from Cinci and LA will help her keep her ranking in the top 15. Following the US Open she has avery little to defend and a place at YEC in Dubai or Bali beckon. Stanford is a much harder field then last year but she'll be seeded 7 or 8 so with a good draw could well make the semis or final again. Looking forward to watching her play a lot now! As long as she doesnt tire herself out too much, but she'll know best herself.

Allez Marion! :bounce:

Omg Marion :rolleyes:
Hopefully she'll withdraw from a few, preferably LA and New Haven. She doesn't want to burn out before the US open.

Btw, she definitely has a place at Bali. I'd prefer a qualification at the elite YEC though. It's not out of her reach :)

Joee
Jul 14th, 2009, 11:38 PM
A YEC appearance would be lovely.

Alizé Molik
Jul 15th, 2009, 03:20 AM
I'd enjoy Marion winning one of those titles :D

Ferg
Jul 15th, 2009, 04:42 PM
Yep, confirmed for Stanford, L.A., Cincy, Toronto and New Haven. New Haven isnt a particularly strong field so she might have a chance there, Wozniacki, Cibulkova, Mauresmo and Radwanska the other big names there.

Marionated
Jul 15th, 2009, 07:27 PM
She won't play New haven to win the tournament though, Fergoli. She'll want to play one or two more matches before the big one. I'd bet any amount of money she tanked the second set to Wozniacki last year.

BartoliBabes
Jul 17th, 2009, 12:21 PM
this is a great time of year for her and i still believe her best surface is hard courts

Alexj
Jul 23rd, 2009, 09:05 AM
]Omg Marion :rolleyes:
Hopefully she'll withdraw from a few, preferably LA and New Haven. She doesn't want to burn out before the US open.

Btw, she definitely has a place at Bali. I'd prefer a qualification at the elite YEC though. It's not out of her reach :)[/QUOTE]

Hopefully not LA cause i will be there :)

Lighter
Jul 23rd, 2009, 03:11 PM
Marion is coming back in the business : http://www.welovetennis.fr/wta/13659-bartoli-retour-a-standford

French journalist made a mistake in writing Stanford.

Marionated
Jul 23rd, 2009, 03:51 PM
I hope you will be able to see her, Alex. It's been so annoying having to wait so long to follow her results. Stanford started in the middle of July last year, so I think her finalist points will have already been removed from her ranking :confused:

Alizé Molik
Jul 24th, 2009, 12:26 AM
I think that's how it works, like the points go off according to when you got them the year before not when the tournament is played this year?

either way I can't wait for Marion to play!

BartoliBabes
Jul 24th, 2009, 06:44 PM
marion at #15 and has a lot of points to defend this summer hardcourt season:tape:

Lighter
Jul 24th, 2009, 09:34 PM
STANFORD
Difficult to have a better draw :
R1 : S. Peng
R2 : Q or college US player H. Barte
Q : JJ or S. Lisiki

JANKOVIC, Jelena SRB vs QUALIFIER
QUALIFIER vs LISICKI, Sabine GER
BARTE, Hilary USA vs QUALIFIER
PENG, Shuai CHN vs BARTOLI, Marion FRA

Marionated
Jul 25th, 2009, 12:18 AM
If she loses before the QF, :help:

Lighter
Jul 27th, 2009, 10:51 AM
JANKOVIC, Jelena SRB vs QUALIFIER
QUALIFIER vs LISICKI, Sabine GER
BARTE, Hilary USA vs QUALIFIER
MORITA, Ayumi JPN vs BARTOLI, Marion FRA

Ayumi Morita replaces Shuaď Peng.

H2H : Marion 2-0

Marionated
Jul 27th, 2009, 11:30 AM
Should be easier.

BartoliBabes
Jul 27th, 2009, 11:12 PM
yes should be an easier match than peng, hopefully:p

Lighter
Jul 28th, 2009, 09:13 AM
Marion will play on court 6 11:00 am : http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/SEWTATour-Archive/posting/2009/703/OP.pdf

So no TV coverage.

Joee
Jul 28th, 2009, 10:45 AM
Damn :(
hate when my fav player isnt televised.

Ferg
Jul 28th, 2009, 12:57 PM
Marion first up today, at 5 British time i think, im not sure but ill try to catch it, im on holidays at the moment though so im not sure if i can.

Joee
Jul 28th, 2009, 05:34 PM
at 5? i thought it would be round 7??

Marionated
Jul 28th, 2009, 08:04 PM
How can she be aced by Morita 7 times???? And 9 doubles :help:
A win is a win, I guess.

Lighter
Jul 28th, 2009, 08:12 PM
R2 probably on Stadium vs US teenagers Barte or Oudin.

Guess that Morita hit harder than usual, knowing famous Marion's serve returns.

Ferg
Jul 28th, 2009, 08:18 PM
A win is a win, but no doubt she'll have to pick it up next round. Id love a quarter final epic between Marion and Sabs though i wouldnt mind Marion crushing JJ again either to be honest....

JOCHEBEL
Jul 28th, 2009, 08:18 PM
Congrats 2oo8's Finalist Bartoli :D

Lighter
Jul 29th, 2009, 07:53 AM
Marion won't play today vs Melanie Oudin who defeated Stanford US college player Hillary Barte.

Probably next match on thursday between sisters matchs : Day or night session ?

Joee
Jul 29th, 2009, 12:42 PM
Id prefer a day session match. Im so tired after getting my appendix out i dont think i could stay up too late to watch :lol:

Ferg
Jul 29th, 2009, 01:14 PM
Damn, i prefer her playing 2 matches then taking a break rather then playing for potentially 4 days in a row. She should beat Oudin, most overrated player this year for beating a terrible Jankovic.

Marionated
Jul 29th, 2009, 01:37 PM
This is a great draw to the Qf compared to many others. If she messes this up, I'm gonna be pissed.

Ferg
Jul 29th, 2009, 11:43 PM
Good god, i hope for the sake of this website Oudin doesnt win tomorrow. They way shes being built up on GM is crazy. If she wasnt American people wouldnt look twice at her. :lol:

Marionated
Jul 30th, 2009, 12:04 AM
Just to remind you all, Marion did beat her in Charleston :angel: I'm a bit worried though. Marion's serve stats were a mess in the first round, and when her serve is off, life becomes very difficult for her :help:

Lighter
Jul 30th, 2009, 12:32 PM
Marion on OOP in 3rd position :
- California : around 3:00 pm
- UK : around 11:00 pm
- France : around midnight
- Australia : in the morning


Stream here : http://www.fromsport.com/c-4.html (http://www.fromsport.com/c-4.html)

No sound, good image

Enjoy.

BartoliBabes
Jul 30th, 2009, 01:51 PM
tough match i think

Lighter
Jul 31st, 2009, 01:07 AM
Marion won 7-5 6-4. A win is a win. But vs Jelena or Sabine, she should be more competitive with less errors.

Marionated
Jul 31st, 2009, 01:08 AM
Well, I wanted a Qf atleast. With all there service breaks, she better hope JJ wins.

JOCHEBEL
Jul 31st, 2009, 01:15 AM
CONGRATS BARTOLI :)

Melanie Oudin is a promise...

Lighter
Jul 31st, 2009, 01:15 AM
Depends on the ankle, painful or not. With her, it's impossible to predict something. We'll see tomorrow how she feels.

Lighter
Jul 31st, 2009, 01:17 AM
CONGRATS BARTOLI :)

Melanie Oudin is a promise...Marion played on one leg. And on one leg, she wins. OK, melanie is a promise. Bur there is still a big gap.

BartoliBabes
Jul 31st, 2009, 01:28 AM
Allez Marion!:)

BartoliBabes
Jul 31st, 2009, 01:29 AM
next match should at least be entertaining win or lose

pretty good tourny for Marion

but still she can go further...

bruce goose
Jul 31st, 2009, 02:16 AM
Marion won 7-5 6-4. A win is a win. But vs Jelena or Sabine, she should be more competitive with less errors.Unfortunately,I had to teach a class so I missed the match...but I'm with you,Lighter:A QF placement is at least a decent start to the gringo hard-court season...now let's see just how far she's capable of taking this.....VAMOS,:hearts:MARION:hearts:!!:bounce:

Lighter
Jul 31st, 2009, 07:24 AM
Unfortunately,I had to teach a class so I missed the match...but I'm with you,Lighter:A QF placement is at least a decent start to the gringo hard-court season...now let's see just how far she's capable of taking this.....VAMOS,:hearts:MARION:hearts:!!:bounce:Mar ion on oop in 3rd position like yesterday :
Stadium (from 12.00hrs)
1. Hantuchova vs. Dementieva
2. S.Williams vs. Stosur (NB 14.00hrs)
3. Jankovic vs. Bartoli
4. Sharapova vs. V.Williams (NB 19.00hrs)
5. Black/Huber vs. Chan/Niculescu

- California : around 4:00 pm
- UK : around midnight
- France : around 01:00 am
- Australia : in the morning

Iceland
Jul 31st, 2009, 10:51 AM
Glad she won in the end but all she did was to play shots and not applying a game plan. She struggled each time Oudin had her moving. Thanks God Marion's first shots were most of the time excellent which enabled her to dictate the points. I just disliked how flat she played. Hard to be accurate and consistent with so many risks. Marion can't keep this middle-ground, it's a shame.
She seems to believe in herself for her next encounter against Jankovic. It's hard not to find motivation anyway when she can face her. It's the top 10 player Marion can easily threaten the most. Let's hope for a remake of this excellent match in the Australian Open. Allez!

Joee
Jul 31st, 2009, 04:36 PM
Hopefully she can pull off another spectacular win over Jelena tonight :)

Marionated
Jul 31st, 2009, 05:00 PM
So much drama! Neither are perfect with their words tbh. If Marion has a solid serving day and keeps the errors down, and if her ankle is ok, she'll win. I don't forsee this happening though.

Ferg
Jul 31st, 2009, 10:13 PM
I hate to be a pessimist but i have to agree with you Slumptoli! I dont see her winning this match but i hope she surprises me. And like Lighter said, with Marion you never know. But dont get me wrong, i want Marion to crush this bitch as much as anyone! But the importent thing is, she likes playing JJ, and is confident for the match and thats the most important thing. This alone could take away the pain fo her ankles.

Marionated
Jul 31st, 2009, 10:35 PM
It would be so awesome if she did win, just to piss off her many haters :drool: But, tbh, Stanford QF isn't that important. Wimby and Australian open 4th round on the other hand :angel:

Iceland
Aug 1st, 2009, 01:48 AM
QF: defeats JJ 36 76(3) 63

Seriously this win came out of nowhere. We were all wondering whether it would be a beatdown or not and she ended up winning. I loved Marion's attitude in the last sets, the way she played that tie-break was wonderful. The last set was a gift or rather a reward for her efforts. I hope she takes all the positives from this and learns that giving up is never an option in a match. Everything can happen. Especially against JJ :lol:

12th top ten win and 3rd Premium SF of the year!
I don't care if she gets destoyed by Sam now -which is likely to happen-, she has done really well with that one.

Marionated
Aug 1st, 2009, 01:51 AM
I'm still shocked. Sam will win, but I don't mind.

Joee
Aug 1st, 2009, 01:56 AM
I hate to be a pessimist but i have to agree with you Slumptoli! I dont see her winning this match but i hope she surprises me. And like Lighter said, with Marion you never know. But dont get me wrong, i want Marion to crush this bitch as much as anyone! But the importent thing is, she likes playing JJ, and is confident for the match and thats the most important thing. This alone could take away the pain fo her ankles.

Shoulda had faith :) Its never over for Marion until she gives up herself.

"Ill die out there"
So Glad she won.
4 times in a row she has owned Jelena.
hehe!!!:lol:

Alizé Molik
Aug 1st, 2009, 02:10 AM
yes Joe but like at wimbledon, she often gives up too easily. This fight today was a rate exception to other tough matches we've seen this year, i.e vera at AO and fran at W where marion was up and then just gave up completely.

Marionated
Aug 1st, 2009, 02:17 AM
yes Joe but like at wimbledon, she often gives up too easily. This fight today was a rate exception to other tough matches we've seen this year, i.e vera at AO and fran at W where marion was up and then just gave up completely.

i.e at the most important tournaments :sobbing:

Alizé Molik
Aug 1st, 2009, 03:18 AM
she's a reverse serena

bruce goose
Aug 1st, 2009, 04:23 AM
Folks,let's look at the big picture again for a minute:She should leapfrog Razzano for 9th place in the YEC standings,if not NOW,then she's capable of doing it soon....That's only one spot away from the big year-ender,and that's not a bad season by ANY standard,can't we agree??:)

Ferg
Aug 1st, 2009, 10:47 AM
Great win, im so happy for her, she deserved it and fought like hell. Sammy will probably beat her but i dont mind, either way a player i like is in the final. Still, its the night match, so hopefully thats plenty of time for Marion to recover a bit...

Lighter
Aug 1st, 2009, 11:27 AM
Marion's interview after match vs JJ . Very interesting one : http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/page/VideoInterviews/InterviewsDetail/0,,12781~1740186,00.html

Joee
Aug 1st, 2009, 11:41 AM
Nice interview. I think she can pull it off :)But the injury is just whats not making it look possible at the moment sadly:(

Bartoli's Boy
Aug 1st, 2009, 03:50 PM
Just thought I'd pop back in here to say well done Marion :worship: Amazing fighting spirit against a different, aggressive Jelena, who wanted to beat Marion so badly this time. The live stream was painful to watch though.

Joee
Aug 1st, 2009, 04:14 PM
We had a sounded livestream...did you watch from the security cam?

Marionated
Aug 1st, 2009, 08:40 PM
Given the way Venus is winning, I think I'd rather have Marion lose :tape:

Joee
Aug 1st, 2009, 09:05 PM
lol.
Defo would not like to see her get clobbered. :(

Bartoli's Boy
Aug 2nd, 2009, 02:03 AM
We had a sounded livestream...did you watch from the security cam?

Yep. :lol: I couldn't find anything else, but I was desperate to watch the Jankovic match. So I was watching that with the Stanford live score on the screen. It sucked, but it was better than nothing. Eurosport UK said they were going to show highlights in the afternoon too, but they lied and just showed Sharapova get demolished in straights... instead of Marion fight back from 2 match points down. Grr.

Found the better livestream now. :) Alleeez! Also, there is someone in the chat called Bartoliboy, but it's not me. :speakles:

Joee
Aug 2nd, 2009, 03:19 AM
OMG SHE WON!!!

Allez Marion!!!!

Marion def Stosur 6-3 1-6 6-1

AMAZING!!

Srodgers
Aug 2nd, 2009, 03:21 AM
great win over stousor marion!!!

Joee
Aug 2nd, 2009, 03:23 AM
Isnt this just great news....Im over the moon again!!!She came out hitting fireballs from the start!!

bruce goose
Aug 2nd, 2009, 03:23 AM
Welllll....I guess that Marion forgot to get her ass kicked by Stosur:p.Marion will be considered a serious longshot vs. Venus tomorrow...fair enough...but the same was true when she beat Henin at Wimby 2007...at least :hearts:Marion:hearts: HAS a shot.......and that's more than you can say for Stosur now;).....VAMOS,MARION!!:bounce:

Iceland
Aug 2nd, 2009, 03:27 AM
Fantastic win and what a positive spirit! I love when she plays like this, it reminds me of Wimbledon 2007. I can't believe we were complaining about her yesterday, today her legs did an amazing job just as much as her level of tennis. Once again she was great on all key points and served well when it mattered. Im so happy about her defending this final, it's the begining of a stellar Summer :)
Now I can go on holidays in peace! I'll just be dead in 2 hours time when i'll have to wake up :lol:

A way more impressive run than last year!!!! Best of luck in the final!!!!!!!!!!! Allllllllllez!
Good night guys!

Alizé Molik
Aug 2nd, 2009, 03:27 AM
all i can say is marion did the impossivble. the enigma continue lol

Iceland
Aug 2nd, 2009, 03:30 AM
I really agree, especially when you look at how well sam can play (ex 2nd set). No signs of injuries as well. Just PERFECT!
And finally she'll play a Williams sister :)

Alizé Molik
Aug 2nd, 2009, 03:32 AM
yes looking forward to this match against venus - its been so long since they played!

Lighter
Aug 2nd, 2009, 06:02 AM
Maybe some of you knows it, but Marion has worked very hard since last winter on powerful 1st serve return with male players.

The match vs Venus will be very interesting in order to see her improvements.

Los Angeles draw is out :

(9) BARTOLI, Marion FRA vs NICULESCU, Monica ROU
QUALIFIER vs KIRILENKO, Maria RUS
(WC) KING, Vania USA vs BAMMER, Sybille AUT
BYE vs (6) IVANOVIC, Ana SRB

Monica Niculescu is also in finals in Stanford. But for the doubles.

Iceland
Aug 2nd, 2009, 06:20 AM
Yeah I've seen that. I really hope she skips one week this Summer, I don't want a half-dead Marion at the US Open! The draw in LA is really fine so she could give a try but it would be more reasonable to take a break. Cincinatti and Montreal are bigger events, so it's necessary to play there to keep her chances of getting back to top 10 alive. I suppose her presence in New Haven depends on how confident she is before the last Grand Slam.

Lighter
Aug 2nd, 2009, 06:29 AM
Yeah I've seen that. I really hope she skips one week this Summer, I don't want a half-dead Marion at the US Open! The draw in LA is really fine so she could give a try but it would be more reasonable to take a break. Cincinatti and Montreal are bigger events, so it's necessary to play there to keep her chances of getting back to top 10 alive. I suppose her presence in New Haven depends on how confident she is before the last Grand Slam.Agree with you. I suppose that she was waiting for LA draw before to take a decision. So wait and see. She knows how to manage her schedule.

Marionated
Aug 2nd, 2009, 07:27 AM
Just try and make it as competitive as possible later on :hug:

Lighter
Aug 2nd, 2009, 08:11 AM
Interview of Marion after semi : http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/page/VideoInterviews/InterviewsDetail/0,,12781~1740911,00.html

OohZuzana
Aug 2nd, 2009, 09:09 AM
Ivanovic-Bartoli would be a fun matchup.

On her semi win: http://www.thedailyforehand.com/2009/8/2/972598/bartoli-bounces-back

BartoliBabes
Aug 2nd, 2009, 11:49 AM
gr8 tourny marion:) would love a gr8 final now...

Joee
Aug 2nd, 2009, 12:00 PM
Euggghhhh...Niculescu...isnt she a very dangerous player at the moment?

cpross
Aug 2nd, 2009, 03:17 PM
Niculescu is a really fun player to watch (two-hands on both sides, lots of slices and spins, very Santoro-esque), but she's having a truly terrible season this year in singles. I don't think Marion will have much trouble, IMO... :)

Joee
Aug 2nd, 2009, 04:09 PM
good!

bruce goose
Aug 2nd, 2009, 08:42 PM
Am I dreaming...or is Marion just one game away from kicking Venus' ass?:eek:We know that VW is no joke in these clutch moments so it's not over YET...but this is much,MUCH better than all the Marion-haters expected:p

bruce goose
Aug 2nd, 2009, 09:02 PM
Serving for the match against Venus doesn't put you as close to victory as it might seem on paper;she's SOOO hard to put away.Still,it was on Marion's racket and she could've won this with an awesome service game at 5-4.I'll practically die from shock if Marion takes this third set,but she should at least have that encouragement now that she CAN beat Venus(or Serena) if she's really on her game...and if one of those two are having a subpar day,then the odds are QUITE decent.....VAMOS,MARION!!!

BartoliBabes
Aug 2nd, 2009, 10:13 PM
amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:worship::hearts:

Iceland
Aug 2nd, 2009, 10:13 PM
I cant believe i missed Marion's greatest match since Wimby, but it feels so good to know that she finally has a premium title. It feels even better that she beated a williams on the way. It's just unbelievable! Congrats Baba, we are so proud of you! I must download the match as soon as im home! Thanks again for livescores and viva baba!

Bartoli's Boy
Aug 2nd, 2009, 10:18 PM
Marion. :drool: Congrats everyone! I'm so happy, this feels like a Grand Slam title to me. :bounce:

But god, wasn't that the hardest match to watch after she was serving for it in the second set? I was begging for her to break Venus to win in both the second and third sets, because I knew that she was going to get nervous. Amazing clutch play when she was 0-30 down in the last game! I was so worried she was going to start hitting double faults and she did the opposite with some great serving to force the errors.

Speaking of errors, the commentators kept going on about how Marion wasn't hitting any winners after the first set, with it all being Venus' unforced errors. It was making me so mad, because point after point Marion was smashing the ball right into the corner, but Venus was stretching out to return them all. It's a testament to how good Venus is that none of those balls were winners... and a testament to how well Marion played that she didn't get frustrated after seeing that happening. Marion's court coverage was unreal also. They were both running down everything out there. If anyone says Marion is fat or slow after watching that match, I'll... :fiery:

And how sweet was Marion in the ceremony, saying it was hard to beat Venus because she was her role model growing up. :hearts:

Joee
Aug 2nd, 2009, 10:20 PM
It does feel asif shes won a GS....esp with whos shes beaten ahaha!!
I can sleep happily tonight!!

Marionated
Aug 2nd, 2009, 10:30 PM
Finally, she wins a premier title :sobbing: I'm so impressed by her fitness, defense and, above all, mental strength in this match. :woohoo: From 0-30 down in the last game, she was incredible! Now withdraw from LA!

Joee
Aug 2nd, 2009, 10:32 PM
Ya I would advise her to withdraw from LA. She just gonna be too tired.
She deserves the rest after what she just did. An absolute master-bartoli-class.

And to think...she was a point from defeat in the Quarter finals.
Bravo marion!
You are the Queen!

bruce goose
Aug 2nd, 2009, 10:32 PM
Indeed,I'm calling this her greatest win ever b/c she didn't win the title when she beat Henin.This was EXACTLY the sort of marathon match that favors Venus with her stamina and athleticism...yet Marion DID it!!Not to get overly delirious,but this shows me that she could win a Slam one day if things broke right for her...she's EVERY bit as talented as less-famous champions such as Majoli or Novotna...and I'D say that she's BETTER than that duo.....I'm SOOOOO proud of Marion that words can't do it justice

Dave.
Aug 2nd, 2009, 10:33 PM
Incredible Marion! :hearts: So 2 titles in a season again, are we gonna have a 2006 repeat? Times like these make me wonder what the hell happened in last year's final :sad: But oh well, much better times this year round, and a biggest title ever for our girl. :bounce: So happy :inlove: Can't express how proud I am of her, and so glad her improved fitness and very hard work paid off for her in this match!

She plays Niculescu next? That will no doubt be a fun match to watch. Two of the most unusual, unorthodox players on tour. Good luck Marion!

Alizé Molik
Aug 2nd, 2009, 11:03 PM
all i can say is i can't believe it. i just can't.

Alizé Molik
Aug 2nd, 2009, 11:07 PM
i'm reading through GM and theres a suprising lack of hate going on in this thread! I think everyone is stunned.

Lighter
Aug 2nd, 2009, 11:14 PM
People are stunned on every tennis forum. Nobody excepted this, especially after Venus's semi.

I wrote i was confident on a french forum. i explained why. And posters answered me :
"Tu ne crois quand męme pas que Marion va battre Venus".

JOCHEBEL
Aug 2nd, 2009, 11:17 PM
What a Tournament Marion!:D im just shocked! in the positive way, off course!

2nd Title of the Year ;)


Stanford`s Victims:

-R1- Ayumi Morita JPN 7-6 6-3
-R2- Melanie Oudin USA 7-5 6-4
-Q- Jelena Jankovic SRB 3-6 7-6 6-3
-SF- Samantha Stosur AUS 6-3 1-6 6-1
-F- Venus Williams USA 6-2 5-7 6-4

I think she is ready to be a TOP TEN but in tennis, regularity is everything! Keep Goings Marion :) and CONGRATULATIONS!

Your Fan nº1 from Argentina :D

Marionated
Aug 2nd, 2009, 11:34 PM
5th top 3 win of her career :angel:

Alizé Molik
Aug 2nd, 2009, 11:37 PM
You know Marion always says that this is her favorite part of the year, and I have to say that when she did well on clay and in australia this year I thought to myself, we could be in for a big suprise during the US hardcourt tournaments, but this is more of a suprise than I can handle! I guess we get so focused on wanting her to do well on grass after the wimbledon final that we forget that this is her prefered surface.

Marionated
Aug 3rd, 2009, 01:20 AM
I agree, Alize Molik. She really should have had a better grass season though. With this win, she's back at 12. Montreal points are off. Ana has practically nothing to defend until the indoor season; it will be tough for Marion to climb higher. Aza has a huge lead over Nadia. I'm more interested in the Yec race. Consistency will be key for the rest of the year. No more first round exits at pme!

bruce goose
Aug 3rd, 2009, 02:09 AM
Kudos to Venus for losing with class despite her highly competitive nature;didn't hear ANY excuses from her post-match.I wouldn't mind dissent if anyone disagreed but,seriously,isn't this :hearts:Marion's:hearts: best win ever...even better than the Henin Wimby victory??:cool:

Alizé Molik
Aug 3rd, 2009, 08:44 AM
I agree, Alize Molik. She really should have had a better grass season though. With this win, she's back at 12. Montreal points are off. Ana has practically nothing to defend until the indoor season; it will be tough for Marion to climb higher. Aza has a huge lead over Nadia. I'm more interested in the Yec race. Consistency will be key for the rest of the year. No more first round exits at pme!

yes it'll be tough but, with results like those that she had this week, really anything is possible for Marion. Imagine if she gets to the USO SF or something? Or wins a tier 1 title towards the end of the year, I think top 10 is more possible than we think.

Marionated
Aug 3rd, 2009, 08:59 AM
I'm hopeful, but Marion is so unpredictale. Indian wells this year was a huge waste. She could have gone far there if she had played somewhat decent. No one, and I mean no one, was playing well there. Bruce, this win isn't bigger than the win over Justine for me. A slam semi is a far bigger match than a premier final. It's brilliant though that she has managed to beat 2/3 of the best of this era.

Joee
Aug 3rd, 2009, 10:18 AM
Im downloading at the moment. I need to relive the moment:D

Marionated
Aug 3rd, 2009, 10:40 AM
I want to watch the last game again. The cc fh at 15-30 :drool:

Joee
Aug 3rd, 2009, 01:26 PM
That forehand was amazing!!!!

BartoliBabes
Aug 3rd, 2009, 02:53 PM
i know i was going crazy when she hit that:lol:

ClaudiaZ-S
Aug 3rd, 2009, 04:06 PM
No LA this year. Marion withdraws :sad:

Joee
Aug 3rd, 2009, 04:29 PM
^ ^
Wise Marion.
She deserves a rest.

Ferg
Aug 3rd, 2009, 04:45 PM
Have a good rest Marion. Her Montreal points are off so nothing to defend until New Haven, i hope she makes good runs at Cinci and Toronto.

Iceland
Aug 3rd, 2009, 06:05 PM
thanks god she doesnt play los angeles, it would have been pointless to tire herself up before the 2 big tournaments of the summer. Plus LA draw has one more round than Stanford. Im still under shock than she won that title, i hope it's a new turn in her career that will have her again into top 10. If baba keeps on playing well she çan make it. Nadia and jj have lots of points to defend soon for example. Cant wait to download the match!

Joee
Aug 3rd, 2009, 06:28 PM
The match is in sexysova's thread...

Ferg
Aug 3rd, 2009, 07:29 PM
And now it is on my Ipod!

Joee
Aug 3rd, 2009, 08:38 PM
LMAO!
Im gonna convert it to 3pg for my fone :P

Ferg
Aug 3rd, 2009, 10:41 PM
Good result tonight not directly involving Marion, her neasrest rival behind her in the race, Razzano lost, so Marion will remain at least 400 points ahead of her at least. She is only maybe 200-300 behind Vera with Vera not seeming her old self so she has a chance if she keeps this form up.

Marionated
Aug 3rd, 2009, 11:37 PM
I have a feeling Ana will get back to her best again. I wouldn't be suprised if she qualified. Withdrawals are a possibility- even if Marion doesn't qualify for the top 8, there's a decent chance she may play, but she may opt for Bali instead. Btw, I believe she is committed to play a tournament in Korea at the international level later on in the year. I'll have to double check.

bruce goose
Aug 4th, 2009, 12:19 AM
I have a feeling Ana will get back to her best again. I wouldn't be suprised if she qualified. Withdrawals are a possibility- even if Marion doesn't qualify for the top 8, there's a decent chance she may play, but she may opt for Bali instead. Btw, I believe she is committed to play a tournament in Korea at the international level later on in the year. I'll have to double check.Ivanovic is the LEAST of Marion's concerns;her success,like Vaidisova's,was VERY fleeting and,other than WTA photoshoots,her relevance in tennis has quickly evaporated as smart players have learned how to exploit her many weaknesses.W/o Henin's sudden retirement,she never would've won RG or become #1 and then nobody would've been so shocked when she clearly revealed what a NON-champion she really is.Seriously,I have yet to see a single news clip where Ivanovic was seen limping or wearing a leg cast following her "injury" vs. Venus at Wimbledon...How miraculous that she could walk normally the next day:rolleyes:

In contrast,we have Marion who cOULD have folded--or simply faked an injury and quit--after Venus broke her and took the second set.Instead,she reached down within herself and beat one of the best in history with an amazing show of guts and poised serving.Venus is one of the best service returners in the sport with her long reach,dexterity and solid technique...and yet Marion served her off the court with the match on the line even though she had every reason to say,"Here we go again:eek:," once she'd fallen behind 0-30.It was SUCH a privilege to watch Marion break her title drought right in my own country in Monterrey:p(a Mexico-based tourney is the ONLY non-Slam women's tennis we get on our macho sports stations),but winning Stanford like she did was even MORE impressive.......BTW,I agree with you that it might be hard for her to crack the Top 8 in the YEC points yet,as you said,a single withdrawal could open the door for her if she maintained 9th position

Alizé Molik
Aug 4th, 2009, 12:23 AM
can't wait for toronto and the other one! Should be good.

I would have thought Marion would have focused on the indoor tournaments at the end of the year as she enjoys them and has done well there (lots of SF in 2007 and québec title)

Marionated
Aug 4th, 2009, 12:33 AM
I thought you were a huge Ana fan, Bruce? :eek: According to spiceboy, who must have access to entry lists, Marion has entered the Korea open and the Japan open, both of which are international events. This makes me think she may be aiming for Bali, because when was the last time she played so many smaller events?As, if she can win both events and then win Bali, she will win one million dollars.

bruce goose
Aug 4th, 2009, 12:37 AM
Just so we're clear,Slumptoli,I don't mind a difference of opinions at all,but I'm glad that we're both on the Marion Express....You may very well be right that she shoots for Bali,and a season-ending win THERE would be quite satisfying,wouldn't it

Marionated
Aug 4th, 2009, 12:44 AM
To avoid any confusion, she has already qualified for Bali. If she can complete the scenario I mentioned, she's in for a big pay day. That's the only reason I can think of as to why she's playing these international events. Did she even play a single tier 3 last year besides Birmingham? I don't recall any. Sorry for so many posts. My phone will only let me write so much in a single post.

Marionated
Aug 4th, 2009, 12:52 AM
It's ok, Bruce. Ana isn't one of my favourites. I don't mind her. I just remember you posting that she was one of your favourites (or something like that) prior to her match against Marion in Zurich last year. Then again, many of us on this forum change who we like and dislike. I use to be a big fan of Anna Chak :tape: Now I'm just neutral on her.

Alizé Molik
Aug 4th, 2009, 12:54 AM
lol that's ok! You're giving us insight at least! Your theory also makes perfect sense, and I think that's the sort of challenge that marion and her father love to see if they can conquer.

Marionated
Aug 4th, 2009, 01:10 AM
Btw, have any of you come across the poster GoDokic? He had been reading this thread and set me a rep slating Marion, then he made a comment about her withdrawing from LA because of cake, then there's that thread about the bathroom break in Gm (10 minutes? :spit:) She has so few fans for a former top 10 player but so many haters. It's a shame, as my friend met her and said she was lovely.

Alizé Molik
Aug 4th, 2009, 01:45 AM
yes. I'm a Dokic fan too so I have to put up with the same crap in her forum too. I was going to report that post but it appears our all knowing mods/admins have already deleted it and my reply! Lol I hope you saw my reply though cause it was good :D

bruce goose
Aug 4th, 2009, 05:28 AM
It's ok, Bruce. Ana isn't one of my favourites. I don't mind her. I just remember you posting that she was one of your favourites (or something like that) prior to her match against Marion in Zurich last year. Then again, many of us on this forum change who we like and dislike. I use to be a big fan of Anna Chak :tape: Now I'm just neutral on her.Excellent memory,Slumptoli:worship:....It takes a whole HECK of a lot to get me to jump ship on a team or player,but I can't imagine that happening with Marion:angel:.She simply wouldn't respect herself if she even tried to do the sort of thing that would cost my fanship.Marion is so candid that we get an honest perspective on who she is,and that woman,win or lose,just has a knack of inspiring loyalty thru her valleys and peaks:cool:.VAMOS,:hearts:MARION:hearts:!!:bounce:

Ferg
Aug 4th, 2009, 11:28 AM
Btw, have any of you come across the poster GoDokic? He had been reading this thread and set me a rep slating Marion, then he made a comment about her withdrawing from LA because of cake, then there's that thread about the bathroom break in Gm (10 minutes? :spit:) She has so few fans for a former top 10 player but so many haters. It's a shame, as my friend met her and said she was lovely.

Yep, hes a weird one. Im busy putting him down in GM.

Joee
Aug 4th, 2009, 11:38 AM
That bathroom thread is really stupid.
I got Bad repped in it by the thread starter....He said "Good defense. You know shes a cheater"
So Seeing as the message says when you rep someone...something about gettting the same rep back...I listened to the message and gave him a bad rep back :)

haters are pathetic :lol:

Alizé Molik
Aug 4th, 2009, 11:43 AM
thankyou my irish associates. GoDokic is a big troll yes, but suprisingly I didn't get a badrep from that Leo_192 or whatever belorus flag person even though I was saying similar things to you Joe.

The bathroom thread should have been locked the same as that handshake one was. It was clearly a thread to bash marion posing as something that discussed an issue in a more global sense (which I don't have a problem with)

I reported the godokic post that called marion some abusive things, usually i let things go but it bugs me when people spam every single marion related thread when she does well and tries to ruin for us.

Marionated
Aug 4th, 2009, 11:45 AM
And he's 23 years old too :help: The guy who created the bathroom break thread is such a hypocrite. How a fan of Lena D has the nerve to create a thread bashing a player for taking a break after losing a set is beyond me, and I love Elena.

Joee
Aug 4th, 2009, 11:54 AM
Some people on here are pathetic...If they dont like the player....why do into a thread related to them??? Its just stupid.

Ya AlizeMolik it defo should of been locked. The guy that created it is annoying :cry:

Joee
Aug 4th, 2009, 11:56 AM
I miss SuperMarions posts :(

Alizé Molik
Aug 4th, 2009, 11:58 AM
what upsets me the most is that we should be overjoyed that marion just won the biggest title of her career, not dealing with haters.

It's just some people try and make others talk themselves or other people down (i.e. our favourite) when they do well because they don't like to see other people succeed, it makes them feel bad about themselves. In life and in tennisforum you shouldn't minimize your achievements to make some insecure person feel better about themselves. Just like when Marion loses, we have to move on and be mature about it even though it sucks, and so do venus/serena fans.

-edit: i miss supermarion too! where is she????

Marionated
Aug 4th, 2009, 12:04 PM
SuperMarion runs Marion fan blog. Your right, we should just enjoy this title. I thought she was never going to win a higher tier title or beat a Williams sister. I'm so happy.

Joee
Aug 4th, 2009, 12:11 PM
ya she runs MBFB...i just miss her posts that are filled with wisdom :cry:

bruce goose
Aug 4th, 2009, 02:16 PM
^^To Alize,Joee and Slumptoli....Although we haven't totally lost 'Super M'/Alice thanks to the blog,I sorely miss seeing her contributions here.Anyone who looks in the archives--or has a good memory--might recall how aroused I was by her witty dialogue.Even with her intellectual approach,Super M still retains her passion for the best qualities of Marion,and that just adds to her charm as a fan.She actually strengthened my appreciation and fanship of Marion...and I'd love to show her my gratitude:kiss:;) if she ever visited Mexico one day:)

Ferg
Aug 4th, 2009, 04:14 PM
Personnally while i do hate the haters a lot, its lovely to see them get so pissed off at our girl proving them wrong time and time again! This was a big kick to them, and i love her for it.

Ferg
Aug 4th, 2009, 04:48 PM
Looking at the Cinci seeds Marion might look good for a quarter here. She would be drawn against either JJ (:lol:), Sveta, Vera (both struggling with injuries) or Caro(who Marion seems to have figured out).

Ferg
Aug 4th, 2009, 05:07 PM
Marion has headline features on Yahoo and Tennis.com. JJ :drool:

Marionated
Aug 4th, 2009, 05:25 PM
:spit: Maybe she read what JJ said.

Joee
Aug 4th, 2009, 07:03 PM
Possibly.

Joee
Aug 4th, 2009, 07:09 PM
^^To Alize,Joee and Slumptoli....Although we haven't totally lost 'Super M'/Alice thanks to the blog,I sorely miss seeing her contributions here.Anyone who looks in the archives--or has a good memory--might recall how aroused I was by her witty dialogue.Even with her intellectual approach,Super M still retains her passion for the best qualities of Marion,and that just adds to her charm as a fan.She actually strengthened my appreciation and fanship of Marion...and I'd love to show her my gratitude:kiss:;) if she ever visited Mexico one day:)

aye I always had a wee giggle reading your replies to Alice :lol:
I hope she makes a return here soon :)

Alizé Molik
Aug 5th, 2009, 10:27 AM
Personnally while i do hate the haters a lot, its lovely to see them get so pissed off at our girl proving them wrong time and time again! This was a big kick to them, and i love her for it.

yes like they all think that they upset us, but I love bating them on and seeing them get so annoyed and get angry at us hahan;)

bruce goose
Aug 5th, 2009, 11:53 AM
yes like they all think that they upset us, but I love bating them on and seeing them get so annoyed and get angry at us hahan;)It's actually spelled 'baiting',Alize,as 'bait' is like the small animal,such as a worm,that you'd put on a hook to catch a fish....However,I totally agree with your attitude on this:cool:

Alizé Molik
Aug 5th, 2009, 11:58 AM
lol thanks bruce :o i'm sure i knew that :p

Joee
Aug 5th, 2009, 04:21 PM
lol Bruce. Filled with information as usual :P

bruce goose
Aug 5th, 2009, 04:26 PM
lol Bruce. Filled with information as usual :PA pertinent example for all of us:When Marion flips her ponytail:hearts::hearts::hearts:,she's irresistibly 'baiting' red-blooded men:p

Joee
Aug 5th, 2009, 04:43 PM
^ ^
Lmaoooo :lol::lol:

Alizé Molik
Aug 6th, 2009, 01:09 AM
haha merci bruce for that perfect example!

bruce goose
Aug 6th, 2009, 02:05 AM
haha merci bruce for that perfect example!De rien,Madame:hatoff:

Alizé Molik
Aug 6th, 2009, 02:53 AM
De rien,Madame:hatoff:

monsieur! oh lalalalalallaaa i'm not a woman :eek:

bruce goose
Aug 6th, 2009, 03:27 AM
monsieur! oh lalalalalallaaa i'm not a woman :eek::o:o:oPardon,Monsieur.I have that bad habit of associating female-themed blogger names with female bloggers...even though that's not always the case.You actually vent and write just like guys do,so it SHOULD'VE been obvious to me.Maybe I'll be smarter and ask first next time:o.........

Joee
Aug 6th, 2009, 12:28 PM
Alize Molik is a MAN :)
Hes a man of a man :)

BartoliBabes
Aug 6th, 2009, 02:00 PM
Btw, have any of you come across the poster GoDokic? He had been reading this thread and set me a rep slating Marion, then he made a comment about her withdrawing from LA because of cake, then there's that thread about the bathroom break in Gm (10 minutes? :spit:) She has so few fans for a former top 10 player but so many haters. It's a shame, as my friend met her and said she was lovely.

omg i hate godokic:fiery:

Joee
Aug 6th, 2009, 03:52 PM
He thinks hes the pigs penis :/

bruce goose
Aug 6th, 2009, 04:22 PM
He thinks hes the pigs penis :/WOW!!Is that an Irish expression which means that someone has an inflated view of their importance??:confused:Just a guess:angel:

Iceland
Aug 6th, 2009, 04:31 PM
Just back from a little trip to the South West of France. I fially watched highlights of that final, God, watching Marion so happy after the MP made my day! How can not people just love her? :hearts:
You guys have been great in this forum to keep it updated, it was really cool to read everything you wrote on my phone! I won't be part of the fun for long since Im leaving tomorrow to Ibiza :lol:. I'll miss Cincinatti and Montreal but that's fine. I have full faith in Baba :)
I updated Marion's profile with her 5th title, it couldn't feel any better! :p

Joee
Aug 6th, 2009, 05:33 PM
WOW!!Is that an Irish expression which means that someone has an inflated view of their importance??:confused:Just a guess:angel:

lol no.
I was going to say That he thinks hes the Bee's knee's...but thats too common so I changed it :)

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Marionated
Aug 7th, 2009, 12:33 AM
Have fun, Iceland.

Lighter
Aug 7th, 2009, 11:58 AM
Marion Bartoli's best moments here on WTA site : http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/page/Gallery/0,,12781~1744600,00.html

Ferg
Aug 7th, 2009, 04:14 PM
Draw for Cinncinati out tomorrow at 12 their time i presume. I wont be here unfortunatly, heres hoping for a good draw!

Alizé Molik
Aug 8th, 2009, 01:28 AM
Marion Bartoli's best moments here on WTA site : http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/page/Gallery/0,,12781~1744600,00.html

this might be slightly out of the blue, but does anyone else think marion has really beautiful hands? If you look at when she's holding the trophies at no 13 and 15 her hands are so elegant. :hearts:

Joee
Aug 8th, 2009, 11:51 AM
lol AM :P
Hers eyes are gorgeous :P

bruce goose
Aug 8th, 2009, 01:28 PM
this might be slightly out of the blue, but does anyone else think marion has really beautiful hands? If you look at when she's holding the trophies at no 13 and 15 her hands are so elegant. :hearts:First,congratulations to YOU on the return of a certain tall blonde.Alicia always struck me as the kind who could curl up on the couch with you while watching football...the REAL,manly kind of football(Aussie or American)...while still being lovely enough to retain some femininity.

As for Marion's hands,I'm sure their great,but let me give you a Latino perspective:The Bartolis,Mom's and Dad's,"genetic bakery" was QUITE nice as it produced a DELICIOUS pair of Marion buns:drool::drool::drool:...often obscured under one of her more conservative tennis dresses:p

Joee
Aug 8th, 2009, 02:15 PM
lmao Bruceyyy

Alizé Molik
Aug 8th, 2009, 03:31 PM
thankyou bruce! and yes that is exactly the kind of person alicia is - so down to earth and really sweet.

in regards to marion's hands, maybe it's a french thing, this sort of elegance..or maybe i have a fetish for it! :o

Joee
Aug 8th, 2009, 05:59 PM
I think its a fetish :lol:

Marionated
Aug 8th, 2009, 06:03 PM
I don't really know what to think about this first round tie against Clijsters :shrug:

Marionated
Aug 8th, 2009, 06:38 PM
Ok, I've thought about it. We can't underestimate her because she's been off the tour for two years. Hingis was off longer and came back and reached the QF of the AO. But Marion really CAN'T afford another premier mandatory first sound loss. I don't think Marion's game will match up well against Clijsters though. Let's just wait and see.

Lighter
Aug 8th, 2009, 06:38 PM
Be confident. Marion is a fighter. Of course everything is possible in tennis. Marion can also play bad (vs Yakimova in Miami). But for me there is a huge gap between someone who defeated jj, Sam, Venus an someone who didn't compete during 15 months, even she's a former n°1.

Marionated
Aug 8th, 2009, 10:57 PM
It seems many believe Kim will win, but then Oudin had many votes last week too :tape: I didn't see the exhibition Kim played against Stefi Graf. I can't imagine her movement near the level it once was though.

Lighter
Aug 8th, 2009, 11:14 PM
It seems many believe Kim will win, but then Oudin had many votes last week too :tape: I didn't see the exhibition Kim played against Stefi Graf. I can't imagine her movement near the level it once was though.You can find it easily on youtube. You know, venus had also many votes compared to Marion.

Kim is realistic. She says that she wants to know her real level in match. In order to work on weak points and to consolidate strong points.

She knows the big diffrence between practice match without pressure and matchs. We'll see monday evening. But i'm not really worried. Because I know that Marion doesn't care about previous Kim's status.

She really felt the pressure only 1 time this year. And it's always the same every year : R1 in RG vs Pauline Parmentier

We all know why. She's French, playing vs a french in France, on clay...........

Marionated
Aug 8th, 2009, 11:23 PM
We'll just have to wait and see. It's very ridiculous though that I saw a poster write Marion will 1 and 0. This is Clijsters she's playing, not Henin.

Marionated
Aug 8th, 2009, 11:25 PM
I meant someone wrote Marion will lose 1 and 0. I can't edit posts using my phone.

bruce goose
Aug 8th, 2009, 11:35 PM
I meant someone wrote Marion will lose 1 and 0. I can't edit posts using my phone.YEC 2007 was a fluke;even against Henin,Marion might lose that way ONCE in her entire career,barring injury or other circumstances

Marionated
Aug 8th, 2009, 11:38 PM
I'm worried because, like Marion said, womens tennis is so unpredictale. When Dokic came back at the Australian open, I didn't give her any chance against Caroline. She lost 3 games in the last 2 sets. I doubt anyone expected Hingis to beat Vera 2 and 1 when she came back at the Australian open 06, too. No one gave Marion a chance against Justine at Wimbledon. Anything can happen.

Marionated
Aug 8th, 2009, 11:43 PM
I wasn't referring to the Yec match, Bruce. I try to forget about that one :lol: I was comparing her to Justine because they're both from Belgium+ the way some people are talking about Kim in general messages, you'd think she is Justine.

bruce goose
Aug 8th, 2009, 11:54 PM
I wasn't referring to the Yec match, Bruce. I try to forget about that one :lol: I was comparing her to Justine because they're both from Belgium+ the way some people are talking about Kim in general messages, you'd think she is Justine.Yes,I wasn't offended by your post;I just wanted to speak up as a voice against the militant Henin refrain before it even got started.Sometimes her fans act as if Marion's Wimby win were some sort of witchcraft instead of Mare simply kicking Justine's ass with superior tennis.I understand some degree of cynicism since the shaky Ivanovic won RG and became #1 after Justine retired...but women's tennis isn't dependent on Henin to be high quality.Even legends such as Evert and BJ King say that it's better than ever(and Marion's a part of that,of course)...case closed:):):)

Alizé Molik
Aug 9th, 2009, 01:13 AM
Ronoc (name change?) i see your proofs but let's consider this thing:

- martina hingis is an incredible player, won multiple GS and RU places as well, her game is so good because it's so simple and effective; she has a lot of different shots and she knows how to use them. Kim's game was built on her being able to run around the court quickly, post baby i don't see how she could expect to play as well as she was before. Martina is just a few steps above kim.
- i saw that match against vera, and vera did absolutely nothing; she knew it was going to be a hard match so she just did nothing. classic 05-06 vera.

yes kim is good, but so is marion! we have to have faith in her that she can come through and win any match.

Marionated
Aug 9th, 2009, 01:32 AM
Yes. I changed from Slumptoli :lol: Well, it's good to see you are all optimistic. I'm always pessimitic with Marion, because she can lose/struggle against many players when she doesn't play well. For example, she lost a set to Sprem in Stuttgart. Sprem then lost at an Itf event. And then there was that epic struggle against Lauren Albanese in Ponte verde beach.

Marionated
Aug 9th, 2009, 01:44 AM
And I know you can say that Marion is playing really well after just winning a title, but we thought that going into Indian wells. I was pretty confident she was going to beat Peer, but she lost after winning the first set so easy, apparently spraying the ball over in the third. But she should win this match against a Kim who hasn't played a main draw match in over 2 years. Good luck.

JOCHEBEL
Aug 9th, 2009, 02:43 AM
BARTOLI vs CLIJSTERS

WHAT A MATCH! THE MATCH!

MY LOVERS!

JOCHEBEL
Aug 9th, 2009, 02:48 AM
Head to Head:

Kim Clijsters BEL leads 1-O

2OO3- San Diego - Clijsters won 6-1 6-1

Long time ago! ;)

KClijsters
Aug 9th, 2009, 02:54 AM
As a Kim fan I hope that Kim will win ofcourse :)
But I have to be honest, it will be very difficult. Marion is playing very good tennis at the moment and Kim hasn't played a real match for a long time. So we also have no idea how she's playing at the moment. It's difficult to give an opinion based on the matches she already played. In my opinion that weren't real matches. So for that we have to wait till the Kim-Marion match and I'm really exciting about it. It's so nice to see her name back in the draw and monday back on the court. I'm already really happy about that and just hoping for a good match :)

Lighter
Aug 9th, 2009, 08:20 AM
On Cincinnati site : http://www.cincytennis.com/en/sitecore/content/Cincinnati/Global/News/2009/08/Womens_Qualifying_Begins_Saturday.aspx

Perhaps the biggest cheer from the assembled crowd was reserved for 2005 US Open champion Kim Clijsters, who drew No. 12 seed Marion Bartoli of France who comes to Cincinnati fresh off a title at Stanford. That match will be Monday night.

Joee
Aug 9th, 2009, 11:42 AM
Should be quite a match :)

Any idea if we can see it anywhere?

Lighter
Aug 9th, 2009, 11:48 AM
We have to wait in order to order if this match will be covered.

I've waited until now before to give this very interesting link : http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=3756306&postcount=1

This poster was in Stanford and saw 1/4 finals. He prefers male tennis. But he was curious to see Wta match.

Here is the comment from someone very neutral. Enjoy. I like Marion for the same reasons.

A day with the WTA
I attended the QF at Stanford. It was a lot of fun exceeding my expectations by far. I just wanted to share my notes about the tactics of the players:
- Dementieva: she looks like a thriathlonist. Very fit, I had the impression that she looks stronger in real life that in the TV. Excellent and powerful ground strokes but little else. When her second serve put her in trouble, she gave a few games that could have cost her the match. In general, she comes across as a one-dimension player.
- Hantuchova: thinner than I thought. You really wonder where her power is coming from. She tried to change her strategy a few times because Dementieva was giving her a beating. She tried to go to the net a few times, change the rythm with high balls once in a while, and it almost worked. I thought she is a smart player. Good skills at the net.
- Serena Williams: I thought Stosur is a very bad match up for her. Stosur is the type of player who doesn't give you any rythm. It's either a winner or a shank, but the rallies are never long. I think Serena needs the pace of longer rallies, and ironically, I thought Stosur' shanks in the net served her better than any attempt to a longer point. I was left with the impression that Serena could lose in any given day to any player in the tour with a good serve and a good shot variety. I also thought that Serena suffered more with the heat of the day (no clouds at all, typical Palo Alto summer), but I suddendly remembered that she has won a lot of Australian Opens.
- Stosur: best serve of the 8. Good forehand but complemented with a weak backhand. Very fit and disciplined. I know it sounds weird, but I would have bet that her plan was exactly what she did: do not give any rythm, shank the ball rather than get into longer rallies.
- Bartoli: you have to like her. A great warrior and more importantly, very smart. I reckon she was the smartest of the 8. If the passing shot is hard, she just give a low ball to the opponent at the net and wait for the next opportunity... If the other player has the momentum, she makes her rituals longer, even drying her legs with the towel... She takes the ball super early, stealing time from her opponent... When she's off pace, she just hits a deep shot to the middle... All the right things. Of course her style is orthodox, and she probably became very smart because of her own weaknesses. But it was a pleasure to watch, and at the end of the day, she was the one who stole my heart and the one who taught me more.
- Jankovic: good technique, good ground stokes. But she lacks the tenacity of other players, and I thought her serve and her net skills are still to be fully developed. She can get distracted very easily. She had a couple of bad calls and made a lot of noise about it.
- Venus: the most complete of all. You really wonder how Serena has won more slams than Venus. Venus came across as the all court, smart, full player. Good baseline strokes, good net skills, good serve, good strategy, excellent fitness. I think she's in her prime.
- Sharapova: one-dimension player. No plan B. However, it was very funny to see the herd of men taking pictures of her in the warm up (me included). A couple of old ladies complained and asked us to sit down.

Bottom line, I gave an opportunity to the WTA and it really worked. I'm glad I spent the Friday in this way. Besides, that's the top tournament in the Bay Area, above the SAP Open that it's only an ATP 250.

Joee
Aug 9th, 2009, 08:23 PM
Marion has a magical charm :D

Ferg
Aug 9th, 2009, 08:55 PM
Cant wait for Marion to crush. Realistically Marion is on a suberb high after Stanford, palying her best defensivly of her life, and massive fitness levels and a weeks break, she wont lose by being driven around court against a player returning after a 2 year break in her first competitve match. Everyne in GM likes Marion to lose, so of course they'll be backing Clijsters. It depends, if Marion plays well she will win.

Plus, Marion will destory her serve.

Ferg
Aug 9th, 2009, 08:59 PM
And I know you can say that Marion is playing really well after just winning a title, but we thought that going into Indian wells. I was pretty confident she was going to beat Peer, but she lost after winning the first set so easy, apparently spraying the ball over in the third. But she should win this match against a Kim who hasn't played a main draw match in over 2 years. Good luck.

Peer is a terrible player for her though, always was. Isnt her H2H 7-1 or something. Marions only win at Wimbledon 07 i think.

Ferg
Aug 9th, 2009, 09:13 PM
OH NO. Lenny DH is on GM... Oh dear lord.

Marionated
Aug 9th, 2009, 10:57 PM
The h2h is 1-6. Still a ridiculous loss given Peers form this year. She just lost 2 and 3 in cincy qualies.

Ferg
Aug 9th, 2009, 10:59 PM
I knew they would get the night match.



Monday, August 10, 2009

Center Court (from 11.00hrs)
1. Kanepi vs. Azarenka
2. Dulko vs. Schnyder
3. Oudin vs. Ivanovic
4. Bartoli vs. Clijsters (NB 19.45hrs)
5. Ruano Pascual/Zheng vs. Craybas/Spears

Grandstand (from 11.00hrs)
1. Razzano vs. Groenefeld
2. Suárez Navarro vs. Wozniak
3. Vesnina vs. Chakvetadze
4. Benesova/Kondratieva vs. Mattek-Sands/Petrova (possible court change)
5. Dushevina/Rodionova vs. Dekmeijere/Ditty (NB 19.45hrs)

Court 3 (from 11.00hrs)
1. Safarova vs. Benesova
2. Cornet vs. Czink
3. Vinci vs. Malek
4. Llagostera Vives/Martínez Sánchez vs. Jans/Rosolska

Court 4 (from 11.00hrs)
1. Govortsova vs. Makarova
2. K.Bondarenko vs. Rybarikova
3. Senoglu/Shvedova vs. Kudryavtseva/Savchuk
4. Kleybanova/Makarova vs. Safarova/Voskoboeva

Marionated
Aug 9th, 2009, 11:03 PM
If she wins this, she should have an easy road to round 3, unless Patty suddenly remembers how to play on hard.

Ferg
Aug 9th, 2009, 11:14 PM
If she wins this, she should have an easy road to round 3, unless Patty suddenly remembers how to play on hard.

You mean if Patty remembers how to play at all sadly. :unsure: If she plays well i wouldnt put it past her to beat Sveta and Dinara, 2 headcases who, on their bad day would hate a defensive Marion. Im getting too far ahead of myself but i need optimism! Im admittedly a little wary about tomorrow but i think Marion will be too much for her. Will be interesting to see how her serve holds up against marions returns.

Marionated
Aug 9th, 2009, 11:56 PM
You're right about Patty actually. Her last loss :o Gise is a good match up for Marion imo. What worries of about Kim is she, like Vera, shifts the direction of the ball very well, but this isn't 2003 so ... I just want this match to be played already :help:

Joee
Aug 10th, 2009, 09:50 AM
Marion is going to attack the serve as you say. Marions a totally different player from 03.
Kim gets to see first hand just how good Marion is this month :)

Lucky girl Kim :)

Lighter
Aug 10th, 2009, 12:27 PM
Should be quite a match :)

Any idea if we can see it anywhere?It seems that Eurosport tries to find a solution in order to cover the match between Marion and Kim. We have just to wait and see.

Joee
Aug 10th, 2009, 12:41 PM
Im hoping they do. I need to see some Marion :(

Marionated
Aug 10th, 2009, 01:28 PM
It may happen. Sharapovas comeback match against Garbin wasn't originally on eurosport schedule but they managed to show it. Marion's match will be quite late on though :unsure:

Joee
Aug 10th, 2009, 01:31 PM
Ya at like 12:45.....Its worth watching though

Lighter
Aug 10th, 2009, 03:51 PM
Marion is speaking in French : http://www.sporza.be/cm/sporza/videozone/MG_programmas/MG_sportweekend/2.5967/2.5968/1.577664

She's smiling. So.....

cpross
Aug 10th, 2009, 04:30 PM
I love how she says (about Kim) "She's a great athlete.. A much better athlete than I am!".. She clearly isn't underestimating her opponent.. God I hope it's televised!

Joee
Aug 10th, 2009, 06:12 PM
Marion is speaking in French : http://www.sporza.be/cm/sporza/videozone/MG_programmas/MG_sportweekend/2.5967/2.5968/1.577664

She's smiling. So.....

Lovely video :D

Ferg
Aug 10th, 2009, 06:19 PM
Oooh im starting to get excited.

Alizé Molik
Aug 11th, 2009, 12:19 AM
marion has the right idea, to hang on and start well, and if Kim starts playing really well keep fighting and see whether or not she can keep up the intencity.

Joee
Aug 11th, 2009, 12:24 AM
Shes coming back strong atm

Ferg
Aug 11th, 2009, 01:20 AM
Terrible. 2/10 on BPs, 0/7 in the 2nd set, horrible serving stats and aparently she was just generally bad. Im avoiding GM for the next few days, it'll be a hate fest for her, sick of it. She was unlucky with the draw in fairness but im tired of her playing sh!tty after good runs. She hasnt a hope at the US Series now.

Shes gonna play New Haven now i suppose.

Joee
Aug 11th, 2009, 01:23 AM
Awk wee Marion.
Ta bron an domhain orm :(
I really wanted you to win my dear.

Ah well...Your still Mo Ghile Mhear :)

Marionated
Aug 11th, 2009, 01:26 AM
Stats are a fucking joke. broken. Had multiple game points in so many of her service games, including 3 in the last one, and she can't break once. Broken 4 times :o The loss doesn't suprise me that much though. She and her dad need to watch some tapes and figure things out when it comes to players who can use angles well, because she's useless against them. Just really disgusted with that 2nd set.

Alizé Molik
Aug 11th, 2009, 01:29 AM
oh well kim is a slam champ and marion was always going to have a big let down after stanford. she'll probably lose r1 at USO as well, she's never consistant.

Marionated
Aug 11th, 2009, 01:29 AM
And a 4th first round premier mandatory loss :rolleyes: All I can say is, at least there's many points to gain next year.

Joee
Aug 11th, 2009, 01:31 AM
Im not going to sleep tonight now guys...Im hating having to post on the blog about this match :(

bruce goose
Aug 11th, 2009, 01:34 AM
As 'Super M' has often said,our babe is mercurial;she's gonna have her moments of greatness like Stanford,but I'm afraid that she's a bit too wound up emotionally for us to expect notable consistency from her any time soon.Marion will probably be one of those women's players who gets even much tougher in her late 20s when she's calmed down quite a bit.One who surprises me the most as an example if this is Pennetta;a couple years ago,aye NEVER would've forseen Flavia going far and even winning a Premier title.Now,at 27,she's doing stuff that was unattainable for her in her younger years.I'd chalk that up to settling down internally somewhat....I hope that we don't have to wait that long for Marion,but I believe that it WILL happen at some point:cool:

Joee
Aug 11th, 2009, 01:36 AM
As 'Super M' has often said,our babe is mercurial;she's gonna have her moments of greatness like Stanford,but I'm afraid that she's a bit too wound up emotionally for us to expect notable consistency from her any time soon.Marion will probably be one of those women's players who gets even much tougher in her late 20s when she's calmed down quite a bit.One who surprises me the most as an example if this is Pennetta;a couple years ago,aye NEVER would've forseen Flavia going far and even winning a Premier title.Now,at 27,she's doing stuff that was unattainable for her in her younger years.I'd chalk that up to settling down internally somewhat....I hope that we don't have to wait that long for Marion,but I believe that it WILL happen at some point:cool:

I hope your right Bruceypoo :)

Im going to bed guys. Nighty night

Marionated
Aug 11th, 2009, 01:49 AM
Her defense won her Stanford. I wrote in General messages the other day that her offense was nowhere near it's best; I stand by that. She was outwinnered by Sam, Venus and JJ by pretty large margins, and there were times when she was just pushing the ball. She needed to be at her offensive best to win this. If Kim is near to what she was like before, she was never gonna out-defend her.

Marionated
Aug 11th, 2009, 01:58 AM
Players who either have a good defense, don't make too many errors and can can use angles well when playing well , she can't do anything against them. Kim and 1-8 against Vera, 0-3 against Aga, 1-4 against Fran, 1-6 against Peer, 1-3 against Caroline, 1-5 against Patty etc The only one she isn't bad against is JJ. It's just a horrible match up for her :shrug: A more consistent serve would help.

Ferg
Aug 11th, 2009, 09:51 AM
http://www.hln.be/static/FOTO/pe/10/14/11/album_large_988751.jpg

Marionated
Aug 11th, 2009, 10:22 AM
Hopefully someone has some highlights. If they both reach the 3rd round, it will be interesting to see how well Kim does against Sveta. Fingers crossed for a much better Toronto draw. She probably will play New Haven, unless she does really well in Toronto.

Joee
Aug 11th, 2009, 05:14 PM
Ill kill for highlights :p

Marionated
Aug 11th, 2009, 06:36 PM
MP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=030SHPDaciU

Ferg
Aug 11th, 2009, 08:15 PM
Ugh i fucking hate Williams fans. Obnoxious ****s. :rolleyes: Ive never liked them before and now their behaviour just because Marion beat Vee is sad. :help:

Marionated
Aug 11th, 2009, 08:43 PM
The best players have fanbases who are full of trolls. They seem to think that because they support the most accomplished players, they are above those who support other players.

Ferg
Aug 11th, 2009, 08:52 PM
Yeah, its always the same with them, not just with Marion! Its worse for the real Dinara fans, having to put up with that everytime she loses, then them trying to pin the whole thing back on them! Its crazy!

Marionated
Aug 11th, 2009, 09:10 PM
Too true. And some of them use to like Dinara. If she was ranked below Serena, Williams fans wouldn't have a problem with her. It's pathetic.

Alizé Molik
Aug 12th, 2009, 02:10 PM
I knew that some trolls would have a field day the first time marion lost after beating Vee, i just wish it didn't have to be such a high profile loss. Also those of you who may not remember the kim/juju days, get ready for belgian trolls because they're numerous and stupid. Quite similar to some american williams fans; not tennis fans so much as fans of one or two specific players from their country.

Also it makes me laugh how fans of some successful players think that makes them better on this forum..it's not as though supporting a player is like being white or black, anyone can chose to support who they want, if i wanted to just cheer on people who win a lot i'd support the top 5 only, but I support players because i like them or their games.

Ferg
Aug 12th, 2009, 02:37 PM
Thankfully i wasnt here when Justine and Kim were at their peaks so i didnt have to handle the fans, but the sudden number of the Kim fans is quite alarming. :scared:

From the reps im getting i see im not the only one here who hates the WS fans.

bruce goose
Aug 14th, 2009, 04:52 PM
Sure,she could've played better,but :hearts:Marion's:hearts: loss to Clijsters doesn't look so bad now:p.Just a little rebuke to all the Stanford naysayers;).You'll get her eventually,Marion...unless she suddenly gets pregnant again:lol:

Ferg
Aug 15th, 2009, 12:25 AM
Marion will be seeded #13, a much beter position imo as all the top 4 arent looking that convincing and could be taken out in time for the US Open. Lets just hope Clijsters stays away from her this time!

Ferg
Aug 15th, 2009, 11:25 AM
Dinara Safina (1) vs BYE
Alize Cornet vs Aravane Rezai
Alisa Kleybanova vs Aleksandra Wozniak
Sara Errani vs Dominika Cibulkova (16)

Victoria Azarenka (9) vs Shuai Peng
qualifier vs Kim Clijsters
Anabel Medina Garrigues vs Patty Schnyder
BYE vs Jelena Jankovic (5)

Venus Williams (3) vs BYE
qualifier vs qualifier
Valerie Tetreault vs Agnes Szavay
Carla Suarez Navarro vs Agnieszka Radwanska (14)

Nadia Petrova (10) vs Maria Sharapova
Sybille Bammer vs Anna Chakvetadze
qualifier vs Stephanie Dubois
BYE vs Vera Zvonareva (7)

Svetlana Kuznetsova (6) vs BYE
qualifier vs Samantha Stosur
Virginie Razzano vs Ekaterina Makarova
qualifier vs Flavia Pennetta (12)

Amelie Mauresmo (15) vs Francesca Schiavone
Shahar Peer vs qualifier
Iveta Benesova vs Ai Sugiyama
BYE vs Elena Dementieva (4)

Caroline Wozniacki (8) vs BYE
Elena Vesnina vs Jie Zheng
qualifier vs Kaia Kanepi
qualifier vs Ana Ivanovic (11)

Marion Bartoli (13) vs Alona Bondarenko
qualifier vs qualifier
qualifier vs Daniela Hantuchova
BYE vs Serena Williams (2)

Ferg
Aug 15th, 2009, 11:29 AM
Quite honestly, an extremely winneable quarter if she plays even to 60% of her ability. Bondarenko, easy, then a qualie, then either Williams (WHo, quite frankly has been shit so far and i doubt if she could even get past Dani) or Dani, who would be very wimmeable. Then looking at her other seeds for a quarter final, Ivanovic :spit: Wozniacki (another player playing terrible) then for a semi match, Kuznetsova (again :spit:) or Lena, who hasnt even been playing great in Cinci and could easily withdrawif she wins. Im pretty sure Pennetta will withdraw win or lose today. Im hopefull for her but it all comes down to how Serena plays. Hopefully shes still sick. :devil:

Marionated
Aug 15th, 2009, 05:51 PM
She should get to the third round at least. I have a feeling Serena will show up to play here :help:

Sund7101
Aug 16th, 2009, 03:09 AM
Better draw than last week indeed!

Joee
Aug 16th, 2009, 11:57 AM
Indeed it is.
Hopefully she can have a good tournament.

Ferg
Aug 17th, 2009, 10:52 PM
Absolutely fucking pathetic. Words cannot describe this terrible loss. I think its her worst all year, even worse then losing to Mattek. Im seriously just considering to moving onto Jeremy full time and supporting Marion when it suits or something, im so sick of this shit. :shrug: I get so emotionally invested and she lets us down with losses like this.

Marionated
Aug 17th, 2009, 10:55 PM
Yes, it's a bad loss. What was she doing out there? 71% of her first serves in but broken 5 times :o

In her entire career, she's only been to 4 tier 1 Quater-finals. She's so much better than that :o

And now I don't want her to do well in New haven. I want her to be fresh for the open.

Marionated
Aug 17th, 2009, 11:02 PM
Thank God she has a slam QF, 2 titles, 1 runner up and 3 top 10 wins. Otherwise this would have been another mediocre year.

Joee
Aug 17th, 2009, 11:03 PM
Im so sad :(

Ferg
Aug 17th, 2009, 11:08 PM
She had such a wonderful oppurtunity to get to 50 wins this year after Charleston, and have a good shot at the YEC :shrug: Results like this dont help. She doesnt even want to get back to the top 10 at all.

Shes currently about 400 points behind in #10 in the race, she hasnt a chance at it now.

Marionated
Aug 17th, 2009, 11:13 PM
I agree, and the likes of Woznaicki and Azarenka usually get to the Quarter-finals of tournaments with ease. Neither of them would have lost this match. Marion is way too inconsistent.

Alizé Molik
Aug 18th, 2009, 02:04 AM
she lost 3 matches in a row after she won monterrey as well. It's either some kind of tactic by her and her father or she's not able to handle winning a title and then playing again straight after

i posted that in the GM thread but what do you think? I think it's utterly ridiculous! She's either not getting adequate rest, or she's throwing these matches.

cpross
Aug 18th, 2009, 02:15 AM
I'm just gonna repeat a posting I made to Marion's fan blog.. (and I think my comment about the ranting and raving applies here too).. Apologies for the cross-posting:
Hi all.. I WAS there, so maybe I can offer my (humble) 2 cents..
Bondarenko was, quite simply, fantastic.. I can't say I know all that much about her, but her level was very, very high. I kept expecting her level to dip (I assumed she couldn't keep it up all match), but it didn't. Marion wasn't serving all that badly, her returns weren't all that bad, but she was getting blown off the court by huge groundstrokes. The crowd was even on Marion's side (due in no small part to a couple of racquet-smashing temper tantrums on Bondarenko's end).
The only other thing that the scoreboard definitely doesn't capture is the fact that Marion had (if I recall) THREE questionable line calls (two of which were laaaate). I know she's not that mentally fragile, but it definitely bothered her in the moment...
Overall, a shame (and hard to watch).. but I would caution against using toooo many exclamation points getting worked up about 'what it means' re: the US Open, etc.

bruce goose
Aug 18th, 2009, 02:21 AM
Thank you for the 1st-hand report:worship:;our :hearts:Marion:hearts: is so--as Super M would say--mercurial that it's re-assuring to hear that she didn't drift away on mental walkabout.Maybe it's better,anyway,that she doesn't peak too early

Ferg
Aug 22nd, 2009, 11:44 AM
[1/WC]Kuznetsova vs. Zheng
Qualifier vs. Kleybanova
A.Bondarenko vs. [WC]Shaughnessy
Sugiyama vs. [8]Mauresmo

[4/WC]Petrova vs. Chakvetadze
Bammer vs. Medina Garrigues
Vesnina vs. Dulko
Cornet vs. [7]Cibulkova

[6]Bartoli vs. Martinez Sanchez
Schiavone vs. Qualifier
Benesova vs. Stosur
Qualifier vs. [3]Pennetta

[5]A.Radwanska vs. Qualifier
Schnyder vs. Razzano
Makarova vs. Pavlyuchenkova
Suarez Navarro vs. [2]Wozniacki

Ferg
Aug 22nd, 2009, 11:45 AM
Marion has been so unpredictable and her draw is so shit im just hoping for a first round win. :tape: Then its that pusher Schiavone probably.

Alizé Molik
Aug 22nd, 2009, 02:50 PM
im hoping marion db schiavone, but chances are she'll loose 63 64 to martinez sanchez.

Ferg
Aug 22nd, 2009, 04:04 PM
You mean 6-4 6-3!

Marionated
Aug 22nd, 2009, 06:50 PM
:spit: Martinez is the better clay-courter; the loss in Rome was not a bad one by any means. On hard-court Marion should win. Allez!

Alizé Molik
Aug 23rd, 2009, 03:19 AM
You mean 6-4 6-3!


yes you are correct.

Ferg
Aug 24th, 2009, 06:18 PM
Schiavone has just been beaten. Thank god.

Marionated
Aug 24th, 2009, 06:23 PM
:banana:

Alizé Molik
Aug 25th, 2009, 05:43 AM
the streets are once again safe to walk.

Joee
Aug 25th, 2009, 03:23 PM
Come on Marion. I really think Marion can win this.