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DefyingGravity
Jul 13th, 2009, 04:28 AM
Both ladies have a slam count of three, BUT!

Maria won 3 slams on a different surface.

Jennifer actually defended one of her slams.

Jennifer also has 1992 Barcelona gold, beating Steffi Graf.

Both have been to the semis of their worst surface (clay for Sharapova, grass for Capriati).

Both had a streak going against Serena Williams (Maria's for 2 matches, Jennifer from Rome-Roland Garros 2004 and Roland Garros-Wimbledon 2001)

Both have been number one for a relatively short amount of time.

Decide!

AcesHigh
Jul 13th, 2009, 04:30 AM
Sharapova. Not even close

delicatecutter
Jul 13th, 2009, 04:32 AM
Sharapova. Clijsters should have won that FO.

DefyingGravity
Jul 13th, 2009, 04:37 AM
Maybe Kim should have won that FO, but she didn't.

skanky~skanketta
Jul 13th, 2009, 04:37 AM
Capriati. Not even close.

She also has Olympic GOLD.

Craig.
Jul 13th, 2009, 04:49 AM
Sharapova. But... I'm biased.

CJ07
Jul 13th, 2009, 04:52 AM
I would say Capriati. What she did as a 14 year old was remarkable.

AcesHigh
Jul 13th, 2009, 04:53 AM
Sharapova has more titles, same number of weeks at #1, one more slam final, and a YEC title and she's done it in A LOT less time.

mr_burns
Jul 13th, 2009, 04:54 AM
capriati, but sharapova will overtake her soon
in jen's favour: Gold, great comeback, beat top players from 2 different generations

AcesHigh
Jul 13th, 2009, 04:54 AM
Btw, I think Capriati is WAYYYYY overrated. She was a phenom but what she really accomplished has been way overblown. 3 slams is awesome but outside of that, not much there.

Breske
Jul 13th, 2009, 05:07 AM
*slams

Maria Sharapova - 3W [ '04 W, '06 US, '08 AO ] // 1F [ '07 AO ]
Maria Sharapova - [ AO // 28-5 (85%), FO // 26-7 (79%), W // 25-6 (81%), US // 17-4 (81%) ]
Maria Sharapova - [ 6 SF, 3 QF ]

Jennifer Capriati - 3W [ '01 AO, '01 FO, '02 AO ]
Jennifer Capriati - [ AO // 28-6 (82%), FO // 39-10 (79.5%), W // 38-11 (77.5%), US // 35-13 (73%) ]
Jennifer Capriati - [ 10 SF, 10 QF ]

*titles

Maria Sharapova - 19 titles [ Tier I (6), Tier II (3) ]

Jennifer Capriati - 14 [ Tier I (2), Tier II (4) ]

*#1

Maria Sharapova - 17 weeks.

Jennifer Capriati - 17 weeks.

*YEC/Olympics

Maria Sharapova - [ never played Olympics. '04 (too low), '08(injury) ]

Jennifer Capriati - 1G [ '92 ]

Maria Sharapova - 1W [ '04 // 13-5 (72%) ]

Jennifer Capriati - 2SF [ '02, 03 // 7-8 (44%) ]

My vote goes to Sharapova. YEC = OG more or less. Sharapova has more Tier I by FOUR. Better slam winning percentages. More variety of slams. One more slam final.

Sharapower
Jul 13th, 2009, 06:19 AM
You can't really compare a retired (albeit non-officially) 30+ old player and a still active 22 yo player :dunno:
Capriati is rightfully praised for coming back from her youth mistakes but it should not make us forget that she did make those mistakes in the first place, on the other hand Sharapova is very rigorous and focused, despite all the things that could distract her from her career.
Capriati had enormous talent that she wasted, sort of, Sharapova's sheer talent is dubious but she has managed to make the maximum with the little she's got.

AnomyBC
Jul 13th, 2009, 07:05 AM
Sharapova. She's arguably already accomplished more than Capriati and she's only 22, so she could potentially be playing tennis for another 10 years (or more).

hdfb
Jul 13th, 2009, 07:40 AM
Capriati's story is amazing. She is clearly the winner.

MistyGrey
Jul 13th, 2009, 07:51 AM
The achievements are pretty even.. I would vote for Jen right now, but I am sure Maria will surpass her.

Andy.
Jul 13th, 2009, 07:55 AM
They have the same number of slams but Maria has three of the 4 rather than just 2 like Jen. Maria also has more titles and she has achieved this at such a young age with potentially 5 to 10 years left in her if she wants to keep playing.

DOUBLEFIST
Jul 13th, 2009, 07:55 AM
I go with JCap for now. Her wins are augmented by her biography.

young_gunner913
Jul 13th, 2009, 07:58 AM
J-Cap :worship:

Alex03Maccy
Jul 13th, 2009, 09:21 AM
Jennifer, with her talent at such a young age she could have won 10+ majors.

Sharapower
Jul 13th, 2009, 09:35 AM
Jennifer, with her talent at such a young age she could have won 10+ majors.
But she didn't.

Miss Amor
Jul 13th, 2009, 09:38 AM
Sharapova.

bandabou
Jul 13th, 2009, 10:10 AM
Btw, I think Capriati is WAYYYYY overrated. She was a phenom but what she really accomplished has been way overblown. 3 slams is awesome but outside of that, not much there.

same goes for Lindsay, no?

People talk her up like she's some kinda legend or something. Whereas with 50+ titles, 3 majors really are underachieving.

Polikarpov
Jul 13th, 2009, 10:10 AM
Sharapova. For a top player, Capriati has a pretty modest amount of titles.

hingis-seles
Jul 13th, 2009, 10:42 AM
I'd throw the Olympics out, seeing as they have minimal historical significance in tennis. Sharapova trumps Capriati.

madmax
Jul 13th, 2009, 10:59 AM
haha, not even a contest here - Sharapova by a mile...just wait till she returns to her optimal fitness and game level, and with the upcoming hardcourt season as her favorite part of the I'm sure she'll make some noise even at US Open

muzzy
Jul 13th, 2009, 11:03 AM
Capriati at this stage but I reckon maria if she winsa few more

FrenchY52
Jul 13th, 2009, 11:16 AM
Maria

DeLorean
Jul 13th, 2009, 11:56 AM
Maria easily

bwahahahahaha
Jul 13th, 2009, 12:19 PM
Sharapova.

pokey camp
Jul 13th, 2009, 05:18 PM
More titles, slams on different surfaces, in a shorter time. Definitely Maria.
I go with JCap for now. Her wins are augmented by her biography.
Huh? By biography, does that mean you're giving Jen extra credit for her comeback? Yeah, it's a nice story and all. But doing that means you're punishing Maria for NOT becoming a drug addicted burnout.

AcesHigh
Jul 13th, 2009, 05:29 PM
same goes for Lindsay, no?

People talk her up like she's some kinda legend or something. Whereas with 50+ titles, 3 majors really are underachieving.

No... in an era against Hingis, Graf, WS, etc... I don't think Lindsay underachieved at all. She had great strokes but lack of movement or athleticism in an era where those traits dominated.

If anything, 50+ titles, 750+ wins, YE#1 4 times, and close to 100 weeks at #1 is a great achievement.

HRHoliviasmith
Jul 13th, 2009, 05:50 PM
Sharapova.

i'm with you on this one...this time. :rolleyes:

I voted Sharapova.

Edy.
Jul 13th, 2009, 06:30 PM
Capriati for now.

Sharpie4me
Jul 13th, 2009, 09:07 PM
Capriati for now.

I thought it was Fistpumpnovic? :tape:

Maria Croft
Jul 13th, 2009, 09:18 PM
I didn't realise Maria was retired.....

iWill
Jul 13th, 2009, 09:27 PM
No... in an era against Hingis, Graf, WS, etc... I don't think Lindsay underachieved at all. She had great strokes but lack of movement or athleticism in an era where those traits dominated.

If anything, 50+ titles, 750+ wins, YE#1 4 times, and close to 100 weeks at #1 is a great achievement.

Yeah exactly! If anything Lindsay over achieved given what she was up against she was able to capitalize on a transitional period in tennis post Graf pre WS. She and Hingis had a lock on the tour for a while.

As far as the thread goes I voted for Capriati. I thought of it this way if they both were retired RIGHT NOW and Sharapova wasn't going to achieve more I'd give the slight edge to Capriati but thats just me I think all the intangibles aside this isn't a clear cut choice. Once Sharapova wins another slam which I think she will this won't be a debate.

Nicolás89
Jul 13th, 2009, 09:30 PM
I prefer ASV although Davenport was really good too, but just gotta vote for ASV in this one. :yeah:

CrossCourt~Rally
Jul 13th, 2009, 09:33 PM
At this point Cap has had the better career. But i expect Masha to do allot more in her career and end up with the edge over Cap in greatness. ;)

bandabou
Jul 13th, 2009, 09:46 PM
No... in an era against Hingis, Graf, WS, etc... I don't think Lindsay underachieved at all. She had great strokes but lack of movement or athleticism in an era where those traits dominated.

If anything, 50+ titles, 750+ wins, YE#1 4 times, and close to 100 weeks at #1 is a great achievement.

I guess by next year Dinara will look great too with all her weeks as no.1, etc..

The funny thing about Linds she's much like Dinara right now: beat the ones you're supposed to beat and lose to the someones you're supposed to lose to. Et voila..before you know you're in the HoF.

Miss Amor
Jul 13th, 2009, 09:50 PM
i'm with you on this one...this time. :rolleyes:

I voted Sharapova.

:kiss::angel:

The Daviator
Jul 13th, 2009, 11:40 PM
I guess by next year Dinara will look great too with all her weeks as no.1, etc..

The funny thing about Linds she's much like Dinara right now: beat the ones you're supposed to beat and lose to the someones you're supposed to lose to. Et voila..before you know you're in the HoF.

I didn't realise Dinara had won 3 Slams. Thanks for informing us.

The Dawntreader
Jul 13th, 2009, 11:41 PM
I didn't realise Dinara had won 3 Slams. Thanks for informing us.

We live, we learn:p

Another curious av Dav;):lol:

spiritedenergy
Jul 13th, 2009, 11:43 PM
Jennifer IMO.

spiritedenergy
Jul 13th, 2009, 11:44 PM
I prefer ASV although Davenport was really good too, but just gotta vote for ASV in this one. :yeah:

wrong poll:p

Matt01
Jul 14th, 2009, 12:06 AM
No... in an era against Hingis, Graf, WS, etc... I don't think Lindsay underachieved at all. She had great strokes but lack of movement or athleticism in an era where those traits dominated.



You are making valid points but I feel that Lindsay's "lack of movement or athleticism" are overrated a bit. When Lindsay wanted, she could run and wasn't really that slow. And her footwork was good. And her athleticsm of course improved a lot over the years, she had no problems with playing long 3-set-matches in her good years as far as I remember.

I think the reasons for her "underachieving" (or whatever we want to call it) at the Slams rather had to do with mental issues or a combination of that with bad luck and/or injuries at the wrong time.

The Dawntreader
Jul 14th, 2009, 12:11 AM
You are making valid points but I feel that Lindsay's "lack of movement or athleticism" are overrated a bit. When Lindsay wanted, she could run and wasn't really that slow. And her footwork was good. And her athleticsm of course improved a lot over the years, she had no problems with playing long 3-set-matches in her good years as far as I remember.

I think the reasons for her "underachieving" (or whatever we want to call it) at the Slams rather had to do with mental issues or a combination of that with bad luck and/or injuries at the wrong time.

That's actually quite a good point. Remember when Lindsay applied herself to moving, she had obviously immense reach and could keep herself in the points adequately enough. All her Slam wins were contributed by better movement.

Wimby '05 was the best Lindsay has ever moved on a tennis court.

Dave.
Jul 14th, 2009, 12:46 AM
That's actually quite a good point. Remember when Lindsay applied herself to moving, she had obviously immense reach and could keep herself in the points adequately enough. All her Slam wins were contributed by better movement.

Wimby '05 was the best Lindsay has ever moved on a tennis court.

Yep. Certainly better than Australia 05 :help: Except of course for that random point at 5-0 down in the 3rd we all love :lol:

The Dawntreader
Jul 14th, 2009, 12:50 AM
Yep. Certainly better than Australia 05 :help: Except of course for that random point at 5-0 down in the 3rd we all love :lol:

That point eclipses everything that happed that tournament:lol:

Dave.
Jul 14th, 2009, 12:51 AM
I didn't realise Dinara had won 3 Slams. Thanks for informing us.

:lol: I think bandabou has gone a little too far now and forgotten just how great a player Linds was. :shrug:

Dave.
Jul 14th, 2009, 12:55 AM
That point eclipses everything that happed that tournament:lol:

It really does :worship:



But yeah, Wimby 05 was probably the best she moved, certainly in the later stages of her career. Especially the Final and the Clijsters match, so many running forehand winners :eek:

The Daviator
Jul 14th, 2009, 12:56 AM
Yep. Certainly better than Australia 05 :help: Except of course for that random point at 5-0 down in the 3rd we all love :lol:

Oh THAT point :hearts: I think after she hit her 20th UE in a row, Linds decided she should actually do something before she started getting pelted with fruit :tape:

:lol: I think bandabou has gone a little too far now and forgotten just how great a player Linds was. :shrug:

bandabou has always been off with Linds, I think LA 2004 doesn't sit well with him/her :lol:

The Dawntreader
Jul 14th, 2009, 12:58 AM
It really does :worship:



But yeah, Wimby 05 was probably the best she moved, certainly in the later stages of her career. Especially the Final and the Clijsters match, so many running forehand winners :eek:

Just running in general :haha:

Oh dear guys, we've pissed over another thread again:lol:

All we need now is for me and Dav to relive the Wimby '05 final:lol:

The Daviator
Jul 14th, 2009, 01:00 AM
Just running in general :haha:

Oh dear guys, we've pissed over another thread again:lol:

All we need now is for me and Dav to relive the Wimby '05 final:lol:

At least nobody on this board vehemently thinks the Sharapova semi was better :help: :lol:

The Dawntreader
Jul 14th, 2009, 01:01 AM
At least nobody on this board vehemently thinks the Sharapova semi was better :help: :lol:

:lol:

I miss Matchstick Man and his '120' mph serve:rolleyes::lol:

The Daviator
Jul 14th, 2009, 01:04 AM
:rolls:

The Dawntreader
Jul 14th, 2009, 01:07 AM
I haven't been on CC for about eight months.

It was hard to sustain interest with like 2 active members :haha:

Dave.
Jul 14th, 2009, 01:10 AM
Oh THAT point :hearts: I think after she hit her 20th UE in a row, Linds decided she should actually do something before she started getting pelted with fruit :tape:



bandabou has always been off with Linds, I think LA 2004 doesn't sit well with him/her :lol:

Which one, JPMorgan or YEC? :angel:

That one point may have just saved her because she did nothing else in the entire set :o

Just running in general :haha:

Oh dear guys, we've pissed over another thread again:lol:

All we need now is for me and Dav to relive the Wimby '05 final:lol:

Well to be fair Lindsay was brought into this thread as early as Page 2 so it's not our fault. :angel:

Yeah there was one rally in the Clijsters match where Linds chased a drop shot, then a lob and a crosscourt ball but still lost the point :lol: For fans of other players that would be disappointing but I loved it!

That's one match we don't need to relive :sad:

Craig.
Jul 14th, 2009, 01:14 AM
Love how you all managed to make this about Lindsay :rolleyes: :p

The Dawntreader
Jul 14th, 2009, 01:15 AM
Which one, JPMorgan or YEC? :angel:

That one point may have just saved her because she did nothing else in the entire set :o



Well to be fair Lindsay was brought into this thread as early as Page 2 so it's not our fault. :angel:

Yeah there was one rally in the Clijsters match where Linds chased a drop shot, then a lob and a crosscourt ball but still lost the point :lol: For fans of other players that would be disappointing but I loved it!

That's one match we don't need to relive :sad:

Lindsay was all-out at Wimby that year. Running, threatening umpires:lol:

Even Venus was shocked by how well the old broad was moving:lol:

The Dawntreader
Jul 14th, 2009, 01:17 AM
Love how you all managed to make this about Lindsay :rolleyes: :p

The WTA is Lindsay Davenport:worship::lol:

Dave.
Jul 14th, 2009, 01:28 AM
Love how you all managed to make this about Lindsay :rolleyes: :p

She's more interesting :shrug: But it wasn't us ;)


Lindsay was all-out at Wimby that year. Running, threatening umpires:lol:

Even Venus was shocked by how well the old broad was moving:lol:


lol at the umpire clash, stupid Gerry Armstrong :smash: Yeah, made Venus throw in a few MEAN angles. There was that one 25+ stroke rally then Venus just took the pace off and went behind Linds, she never stood a chance even in her peak movement :sad:

Craig.
Jul 14th, 2009, 01:29 AM
She's more interesting :shrug: But it wasn't us ;)

Interesting? Yes :hearts:

Moreso than Da Queen? No way :)

Craig.
Jul 14th, 2009, 01:30 AM
lol at the umpire clash, stupid Gerry Armstrong :smash: Yeah, made Venus throw in a few MEAN angles. There was that one 25+ stroke rally then Venus just took the pace off and went behind Linds, she never stood a chance even in her peak movement :sad:

That ace :fiery: But I love his accent :hearts:

The Dawntreader
Jul 14th, 2009, 01:31 AM
Interesting? Yes :hearts:

Moreso than Da Queen? No way :)

I feel like i haven't talked about Venus enough tonight either:lol:

Craig.
Jul 14th, 2009, 01:34 AM
I feel like i haven't talked about Venus enough tonight either:lol:

The OTHER queen :crying2:

jumpingjoe
Jul 14th, 2009, 01:38 AM
based on achievements, i say sharapova. However, raw talent goes to Capriati.

sara636
Jul 14th, 2009, 01:46 AM
i would have to say sharapova since she is only 22, only still an active player and capable of winning more slams.

teo_honey
Jul 14th, 2009, 12:48 PM
WTF is Lindsay doing in here? She has her own thread you know. ;)

bandabou
Jul 14th, 2009, 01:51 PM
:lol: I think bandabou has gone a little too far now and forgotten just how great a player Linds was. :shrug:

;) She's great..but just don't want her "empty"-stats fool people into thinking that she's greater than she is.

Kworb
Jul 14th, 2009, 02:32 PM
Maria Sharapova.

Taniaaa
Jul 14th, 2009, 02:35 PM
Maria.

pollison
Jul 14th, 2009, 02:39 PM
Capriati has an amazing story,
she has an olympic gold and her comebcak after so long is WOW.

That said i expect Sharapova to have a better career as the years pass

jrm
Jul 14th, 2009, 02:42 PM
Watch (or educated yourself) tennis than you'll know the anwser ... knowledge is wisdom!

DefyingGravity
Jul 14th, 2009, 03:04 PM
The poll is amazingly close so far. Can't seem to find a consensus agreement on this argument.

I personally feel that as of right now, Sharapova and Capriati are equal in accomplishment, however, since Sharapova's an active player, we'll be comparing her more with Hingis and Henin at some point. BUT that's if she can just find a way to save her shoulder.

Jennifer had an amazing story and career in her own right, both as a teen and as a 20 something year old Grand Slam champion.

I personally voted for Jennifer because she's been able to compete well against two generations of top players (Graf, Seles, Sanchez-Vicario, Davenport, WS, Henin, Clijsters)

SAEKeithSerena
Jul 14th, 2009, 03:42 PM
if careers ended today, Capriati.