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Vyacheslavovna
Jul 12th, 2009, 06:57 AM
Someone else put up a thread about Alexandra Stevenson, the queen of retirements.

This jogged my memory.

She is Dr J's daughter,

And she got to the Wimbledon semi-final in 1999, as an amateur, I think she was at a US college.

What happened to her prize money? Did Wimbledon keep it, give it to charity, put it in a trust fund so they could give it to her when she turned pro, something else?

This has been bugging me since forever.

If anyone knows, please post.

http://images.paraorkut.com/img/pics/images/t/tons_of_money-2167.jpg

Ackms421
Jul 12th, 2009, 07:30 AM
Someone else put up a thread about Alexandra Stevenson, the queen of retirements.

This jogged my memory.

She is Dr J's daughter,

And she got to the Wimbledon semi-final in 1999, as an amateur, I think she was at a US college.

What happened to her prize money? Did Wimbledon keep it, give it to charity, put it in a trust fund so they could give it to her when she turned pro, something else?

This has been bugging me since forever.

If anyone knows, please post.

http://images.paraorkut.com/img/pics/images/t/tons_of_money-2167.jpg

She actually decided to turn pro during the tournament and so she got the money.

faboozadoo15
Jul 12th, 2009, 07:43 AM
And why not? She could pay for college a few times over with the SF prize money.

Vyacheslavovna
Jul 12th, 2009, 07:44 AM
She actually decided to turn pro during the tournament and so she got the money.

Thanks for the reply.

That must have been a hard decision for her. :angel:

HRHoliviasmith
Jul 12th, 2009, 01:56 PM
i've wondered about this too. what would have happened with the money had she not turned pro? in general what are the rules regarding that(prize money that an ameteur wins at pro event)?

Petkorazzi
Jul 12th, 2009, 01:59 PM
I have never heard such a thing. :unsure: So basically if I go to wimby now and win a round, I won't be getting the money just cause i'm an amateur? :scared:

Meelis
Jul 12th, 2009, 02:04 PM
i've wondered about this too. what would have happened with the money had she not turned pro? in general what are the rules regarding that(prize money that an ameteur wins at pro event)?

Any unpaid prize money above and beyond an amateur’s expenses at a tournament will be divided evenly between the WTA and that tournament.

I have never heard such a thing. :unsure: So basically if I go to wimby now and win a round, I won't be getting the money just cause i'm an amateur? :scared:

Yes, only reasonable expenses (transportation, housing etc.), but not an amount greater than the prize money you would have won.

Petkorazzi
Jul 12th, 2009, 03:41 PM
Thanks Meelis :)

And what exactly is going pro? Am I not a pro if I play tourneys all the time?

the jamierbelyea
Jul 12th, 2009, 04:07 PM
Thanks Meelis :)

And what exactly is going pro? Am I not a pro if I play tourneys all the time?

Turning pro just basically means you will be accepting prize money awards for the tournaments you play.

For many of the American juniors they stay amateur while they play tournaments when they are 14-18, because if they turn pro, and accept prize money they are ineligible to play in college.

This turning pro/amateur status is far more prevalent in golf then in tennis though.

Vyacheslavovna
Jul 15th, 2009, 03:00 PM
For many of the American juniors they stay amateur while they play tournaments when they are 14-18, because if they turn pro, and accept prize money they are ineligible to play in college.

This turning pro/amateur status is far more prevalent in golf then in tennis though.


Interesting responses.

I understood being amateur was necessary if you were at a US college with a sports scholarship. How does it work in golf? Justin Rose was an amateur when he had a high finish in the open. I'm 99.9% sure he wasn't at a US college. Why was he amateur and did he just turn pro to cash in as well?

tenn_ace
Jul 15th, 2009, 05:34 PM
Turning pro just basically means you will be accepting prize money awards for the tournaments you play.

For many of the American juniors they stay amateur while they play tournaments when they are 14-18, because if they turn pro, and accept prize money they are ineligible to play in college.

This turning pro/amateur status is far more prevalent in golf then in tennis though.

almost correct - they can still play for a college but there has to be a break between the pro-career and college. Beier Ko is playing for Harvard for instance

HRHoliviasmith
Jul 15th, 2009, 06:37 PM
almost correct - they can still play for a college but there has to be a break between the pro-career and college. Beier Ko is playing for Harvard for instance

please explain...

darrinbaker00
Jul 15th, 2009, 06:40 PM
almost correct - they can still play for a college but there has to be a break between the pro-career and college. Beier Ko is playing for Harvard for instance
Isn't there also a ceiling on how high they can be ranked and/or how much prize money they can win? For instance, Cal's #1 singles player, 21-year-old freshman Jana Juricova, played on the Tour for a little while and was ranked in the 200's.

the jamierbelyea
Jul 15th, 2009, 07:12 PM
Interesting responses.

I understood being amateur was necessary if you were at a US college with a sports scholarship. How does it work in golf? Justin Rose was an amateur when he had a high finish in the open. I'm 99.9% sure he wasn't at a US college. Why was he amateur and did he just turn pro to cash in as well?

Well for a younger player in golf, there are a lot of amateur championships that you have to remain in amateur status to compete in. The British Amateur, US Amateur, etc. Pretty much for golfers if they want to compete on any level junior tournament they have to remain amateur, otherwise their only options are the pro events, and for many 16-18 year olds their games are not ready. Once they turn pro they are ineligible for all of those events.

tenn_ace
Jul 15th, 2009, 07:25 PM
please explain...


means they should turn back to amateur

KournikovaFan91
Jul 15th, 2009, 08:43 PM
Wasn't some of the Chinese players amateur until recently.

CoryAnnAvants#1
Jul 15th, 2009, 11:30 PM
The situation regarding her prize money was another one of the controversies the Stevensons got themselves into during that tournament. Alexandra was registered as an amateur prior to Wimbledon, but once she got very far into the draw, she and her mother announced they wanted to turn professional. It was originally said that they couldn't make that decision while the tournament was still taking place and they had to have decided to that beforehand. Samantha, unsurprisingly, went apeshit and threatened to sue the tour before it was decided that Alexandra could turn pro immediately and get her prize money for the event.

KournikovaFan91
Jul 15th, 2009, 11:42 PM
It was hardly fair she went pro just cause she was winning and if she went out in R128 she would have stayed amateur.

faboozadoo15
Jul 15th, 2009, 11:45 PM
How is that not fair? She made the SF and earned big money. It's hers afterall. She ended up with a high ranking of what, 13? She would have gone pro anyway...

KournikovaFan91
Jul 16th, 2009, 12:41 AM
Because suddenly she wants to be pro just cause she is winning. :rolleyes:
A golfer cant suddenly become a pro in the middle of an Open.

She knew entering the tournament she was an amateur and SHOULD win $0 but once she wins a few rounds it becomes all about money. How disgusting. Forget the rank points and benefits for you career and just think about the money.:rolleyes:

Well I suppose she never won a sum like that since :lol:

the jamierbelyea
Jul 16th, 2009, 01:19 AM
Wasn't some of the Chinese players amateur until recently.

I remember Peng Shuai being listed as an amateur for a very, very long time.

skanky~skanketta
Jul 16th, 2009, 01:38 AM
I've always wondered the same thing in regards to figure skating. I mean, the amateur competition is a whole lot more fun and well, competitive.

KournikovaFan91
Jul 16th, 2009, 01:44 AM
I remember Peng Shuai being listed as an amateur for a very, very long time.

Yes thats who it was.

Was kinda random I think she is the only player I ever saw on the site listed as Amateur.

the jamierbelyea
Jul 16th, 2009, 02:19 AM
I've always wondered the same thing in regards to figure skating. I mean, the amateur competition is a whole lot more fun and well, competitive.

I think the pro-amateur explosion was really more of a decision back in the early 90s. Right after the Tonya Harding-Nancy Kerrigan situation the figure skating's popularity exploded, and there was a zillion different opportunities for professionals to compete. Even before that there were still a lot of opportunities for pro skaters to compete, such as the now defunct World Professional Figure Skating Championships, etc. There was an actual pro circuit that skaters could be competitive on, but not have the pressure of amateu skating. Nowadays there are hardly any pro-only competitions, and the exho competitions feature only amateur skatings anyway.

mckyle.
Jul 16th, 2009, 12:13 PM
Because suddenly she wants to be pro just cause she is winning. :rolleyes:
A golfer cant suddenly become a pro in the middle of an Open.

She knew entering the tournament she was an amateur and SHOULD win $0 but once she wins a few rounds it becomes all about money. How disgusting. Forget the rank points and benefits for you career and just think about the money.:rolleyes:

Well I suppose she never won a sum like that since :lol:

Um, the money is the benefit for her career. :confused:

Lindsayfan32
Jul 16th, 2009, 12:41 PM
She actually decided to turn pro during the tournament and so she got the money.

The rules stated at the time you have declare your status before the the tournament starts and they threaten to sue the All England club if they weren't give the prize money. So the all England club gave in and gave it to them it was about $200,000 for getting belted in under an hour in the semis by Lindsay. :)

Just Do It
Jul 16th, 2009, 12:51 PM
That is interesting. I've never heard of that rule before.

Vyacheslavovna
Jul 19th, 2009, 09:10 PM
I've always wondered the same thing in regards to figure skating. I mean, the amateur competition is a whole lot more fun and well, competitive.

This was another sport that confused me by having amateurs and pros. They would do well in the Olympics, then turn pro and disappear. It was like turning pro was a euphemism for "hidden in witness protection".



http://z.about.com/d/figureskating/1/0/l/K/-/-/torvilldeanpurple.jpg

What did they see?

KournikovaFan91
Jul 19th, 2009, 10:12 PM
The rules stated at the time you have declare your status before the the tournament starts and they threaten to sue the All England club if they weren't give the prize money. So the all England club gave in and gave it to them it was about $200,000 for getting belted in under an hour in the semis by Lindsay. :)

Just watched the golf today where amateur means amateur you can't threaten to sue and get your money: :rolleyes:

Well she had no career since so I am sure that 200k has been funding her.

mirzalover
Jul 19th, 2009, 11:56 PM
Just watched the golf today where amateur means amateur you can't threaten to sue and get your money: :rolleyes:

Well she had no career since so I am sure that 200k has been funding her.

Um she got to the top 20 3 years after that tournament. She had a career...a short one but she did have one.