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Warrior
Jul 8th, 2009, 06:34 PM
Q&A: China and the Uighurs

What lies behind the unrest involving Muslim Uighurs in China?

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Where did the unrest (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/06/china-riots-uighur-xinjiang) take place?


The Xinjiang autonomous region lies in China (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/china)'s north-west, bordering central Asia. Covering one-sixth of the country's total territory, it is a vast but sparsely populated area with about 19 million inhabitants. Some 8 million are Turkic-speaking Uighur Muslims, concentrated in the south of the region around cities such as Kashgar, known to the Chinese as Kashi, which lies 2,500 miles from Beijing. The Uighurs (pronounced Wee-gurs) make up about 45% of Xingiang's population.

Why is there tension in the region?


Increasing controls on religious and cultural activity, large-scale Han Chinese migration and economic marginalisation have all played a part. The proportion of Han Chinese inhabitants rose from 6% in 1949 to about 40% by 2000 and migrants had begun to spread from cities into rural areas, where they found themselves in competition with Uighur communities for water and land. Many Uighurs complain that they have not benefited from the region's economic development and have found it harder to access government grants and bank loans.

Has the region ever been independent?


In 1933 Turkic rebels declared independence and created the short-lived Islamic Republic of East Turkestan. It was reabsorbed into China the following year. In 1944 the Second East Turkistan Republic was created, but it became a Chinese territory again in 1949. Some Uighurs are nostalgic for these phases of independence.

Has the area seen recent acts of violence?


Xinjiang has experienced sporadic outbursts of separatist activity and general anti-government protests. Days before the Olympic games last year, 16 Chinese policemen were killed in a raid on a paramilitary border police (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/05/china.terrorism) headquarters in Xinjiang. No group claimed responsibility. Violence peaked in 1997, with fatal bus bombings and riots after a peaceful protest was suppressed. Experts believe the ensuing security crackdown halted the violence but exacerbated underlying tensions.
Amnesty International alleges that as many as 200 Uighurs were executed between 1997-99, and claims the crackdown has continued. This year it accused the Chinese government of mounting an aggressive campaign that led to the arrest and arbitrary detention of thousands of Uighurs (http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/ASA17/010/2009/en/e952496e-57bb-48eb-9741-e6b7fed2a7d4/asa170102009en.pdf) on charges of "terrorism, separatism and religious extremism".

Are separatist terrorist groups behind the unrest?


Chinese state media often blames the East Turkestan Islamic Movement for stirring violence and planning attacks. But there are several groups that tend to be labelled as ETIM. Experts claim that China is exaggerating the threat posed by the group, which has been deemed a terrorist group by the UN and the US. While there is evidence of links between ETIM and al-Qaida, most analysts believe those connections are historic and several believe they were exaggerated.
More than 20 Uighurs were imprisoned in the Guantánamo Bay detention camp after being captured by the US in Afghanistan. Albania accepted five of them in 2006, Bermuda accepted four last month and the Pacific island of Palau will take the others.

Warrior
Jul 8th, 2009, 06:34 PM
A new wave of violence hit the capital of the Chinese region of Xinjiang today as thousands of angry Han Chinese rampaged through Urumqi, many smashing up Uighur stores and seeking vengeance for Han deaths at the weekend.

China protests: 'It's a huge wave of violence' Link to this audio (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/audio/2009/jul/07/china-uighur-protests)
The authorities swiftly imposed a curfew on the restive city in an attempt to quell what the government has already described as the worst riots since the foundation of the People's Republic 60 years ago. Police attempted to disperse today's mob with teargas as they headed towards a predominantly Uighur area, but many were still on the streets armed with whatever came to hand: wooden staves, iron bars, metal chains, nunchuks, shovels and axes.
Rioters smashed Uighur restaurants, threw rocks at a mosque and threatened residents of Uighur areas, although moderates in the crowd attempted to restrain them.
"They attacked us. Now it's our turn to attack them," one protester told Reuters. Another said: "We're here to demand security for ourselves. They killed children in cold blood."
"It's your time to suffer," they shouted at some of the five- and six-storey apartment blocks lining Xinfu Road.
At least 156 people have been killed and more than 1,000 injured since ethnic clashes broke out at the weekend.
Navi Pillay, the UN high commissioner for human rights (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/human-rights), called for "great restraint" on all sides "so as not to spark further violence and loss of life". "This is a major tragedy," she said.
There is no official breakdown yet of fatalities and casualties from Sunday's violence, when an Uighur protest (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/protest) at mistreatment turned into full-scale ethnic clashes.
But witnesses described vicious and apparently indiscriminate attacks on Han Chinese people, although substantial numbers of Uighurs and other ethnic minorities were also injured.
Crowd members today told the Guardian that they believed Uighurs were coming back to attack them.
A respectable-looking middle-class woman carried a plank with a nail sticking out of it; a young woman in a colourful, patterned top and white diamante mules clutched a piece of metal pipe. A father held his young son in one hand and a length of wood in the other.
"We just want to defend our stuff," said one man.
Few people seemed to know where rumours of further attacks had come from, but witnesses told Reuters that earlier in the day groups of around 10 Uighur men armed with bricks and knives had attacked Han Chinese passersby and shop owners until police arrived.
"They were using everything for weapons, like bricks, sticks and cleavers," said Ma, an employee at a nearby fastfood restaurant. "Whenever the rioters saw someone on the street, they would ask 'are you a Uighur?' If they kept silent or couldn't answer in the Uighur language, they would get beaten or killed."
It was not clear if anyone died in those reported attacks.
Authorities were initially slow to react as large numbers of Han Chinese gathered on the streets around the People's Square in the centre of the city from around 2pm.
But the city's Communist party chief, Li Zhi, later took to the streets, using a bullhorn from the top of a police four-wheel drive to beg protesters to calm down and go home.
Police stopped the crowd entering an Uighur neighbourhood, but even teargas could not disperse them.
Journalists who tried to follow the crowd were bundled away from the scene "for their own safety", as protesters turned angrily on some cameramen, shoving and shouting at them.
Elsewhere in the capital, officers pleaded with gangs to go home. One told protesters holding wooden and metal bars: "Please stand away. We are a nation united."
A man replied: "Our brothers and sisters have been bloodied."
Another officer told the mob: "We need to protect the law. Please retreat. Please trust us."
Banks closed their doors and staff crouched inside, some holding staves, while hotel staff taped up windows.
Earlier in the day Chinese armed police and Uighurs clashed as residents erupted into protests during an official media tour of the riot zone, in the face of hundreds of officers.
Women in the marketplace burst into wailing and chanting as foreign reporters arrived, complaining that police had taken away Uighur men.
Authorities have arrested 1,434 people in connection with Sunday's unrest.

Warrior
Jul 8th, 2009, 06:34 PM
Q&A: China and the Uighurs

What lies behind the unrest involving Muslim Uighurs in China?

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Where did [URL="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/06/china-riots-uighur-xinjiang"]the unrest (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/06/china-muslim-uighurs-background#history-byline) take place?


The Xinjiang autonomous region lies in China (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/china)'s north-west, bordering central Asia. Covering one-sixth of the country's total territory, it is a vast but sparsely populated area with about 19 million inhabitants. Some 8 million are Turkic-speaking Uighur Muslims, concentrated in the south of the region around cities such as Kashgar, known to the Chinese as Kashi, which lies 2,500 miles from Beijing. The Uighurs (pronounced Wee-gurs) make up about 45% of Xingiang's population.

Why is there tension in the region?


Increasing controls on religious and cultural activity, large-scale Han Chinese migration and economic marginalisation have all played a part. The proportion of Han Chinese inhabitants rose from 6% in 1949 to about 40% by 2000 and migrants had begun to spread from cities into rural areas, where they found themselves in competition with Uighur communities for water and land. Many Uighurs complain that they have not benefited from the region's economic development and have found it harder to access government grants and bank loans.

Has the region ever been independent?


In 1933 Turkic rebels declared independence and created the short-lived Islamic Republic of East Turkestan. It was reabsorbed into China the following year. In 1944 the Second East Turkistan Republic was created, but it became a Chinese territory again in 1949. Some Uighurs are nostalgic for these phases of independence.

Has the area seen recent acts of violence?


Xinjiang has experienced sporadic outbursts of separatist activity and general anti-government protests. Days before the Olympic games last year, 16 Chinese policemen were killed in a raid on a paramilitary border police (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/05/china.terrorism) headquarters in Xinjiang. No group claimed responsibility. Violence peaked in 1997, with fatal bus bombings and riots after a peaceful protest was suppressed. Experts believe the ensuing security crackdown halted the violence but exacerbated underlying tensions.
Amnesty International alleges that as many as 200 Uighurs were executed between 1997-99, and claims the crackdown has continued. This year it accused the Chinese government of mounting an aggressive campaign that led to the arrest and arbitrary detention of thousands of Uighurs (http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/ASA17/010/2009/en/e952496e-57bb-48eb-9741-e6b7fed2a7d4/asa170102009en.pdf) on charges of "terrorism, separatism and religious extremism".

Are separatist terrorist groups behind the unrest?


Chinese state media often blames the East Turkestan Islamic Movement for stirring violence and planning attacks. But there are several groups that tend to be labelled as ETIM. Experts claim that China is exaggerating the threat posed by the group, which has been deemed a terrorist group by the UN and the US. While there is evidence of links between ETIM and al-Qaida, most analysts believe those connections are historic and several believe they were exaggerated.
More than 20 Uighurs were imprisoned in the Guantánamo Bay detention camp after being captured by the US in Afghanistan. Albania accepted five of them in 2006, Bermuda accepted four last month and the Pacific island of Palau will take the others.

woosey
Jul 8th, 2009, 07:56 PM
i remember not too long ago that some chinese posters proclaimed that there were no problems among the various chinese ethnic groups. i think this was during the recent outbreak of problems in tibet. they also said westerners were misinformed about china.

i would say that a lot of chinese don't know they are misinformed or just don't care or willfully spread their government's lies.

i think it's a bit unrealistic to expect them to know these things. i'll most of them are han and may not even spend much time thinking about who they are, their history, etc. vis a vis minorities.

people in the majority often take for granted the benefits of being apart of the dominant group - i should know, i'm a black american.

flyingmachine
Jul 8th, 2009, 10:43 PM
i remember not too long ago that some chinese posters proclaimed that there were no problems among the various chinese ethnic groups. i think this was during the recent outbreak of problems in tibet. they also said westerners were misinformed about china.

i would say that a lot of chinese don't know they are misinformed or just don't care or willfully spread their government's lies.

i think it's a bit unrealistic to expect them to know these things. i'll most of them are han and may not even spend much time thinking about who they are, their history, etc. vis a vis minorities.

people in the majority often take for granted the benefits of being apart of the dominant group - i should know, i'm a black american.
:eek::worship:
You are 100% spot on that! I did told some of the Chinese poster during the tibet protest that this is a racial problem but they never listen to what I say and it seems the same thing is happening to the Ulghurs. I understand that what you feel too because as a British Chinese I feel at time that the White Brits granted on things like identity. Things like we are true Brit and you not and you need to be comform etc etc.

LeonHart
Jul 9th, 2009, 12:35 AM
China is going through what Europe was going through in the early 1900's. Each ethnicity wants their own country.

mariahdg
Jul 9th, 2009, 12:13 PM
Hello. Uighur must fix up Kazak first.

mandy7
Jul 9th, 2009, 12:18 PM
Hello. Uighur must fix up Kazak first.
Care to form a sentence and explain what you mean?

Lin Lin
Jul 9th, 2009, 12:38 PM
Care to form a sentence and explain what you mean?

she means there still has a ethnic group with a relatively huge population called Kazak:) Actually there are more than 40 ethnic groups in that province:)

mariahdg
Jul 9th, 2009, 01:13 PM
Care to form a sentence and explain what you mean?

It means that the line between mandy7 and mango7 is always clear. :kiss:

mandy7
Jul 9th, 2009, 01:14 PM
And do the Han Chinese treat all those ethnic groups like they do the Uyghurs?
I sure hope not!

mariahdg
Jul 9th, 2009, 01:14 PM
she means there still has a ethnic group with a relatively huge population called Kazak:) Actually there are more than 40 ethnic groups in that province:)

:smash:It's autonomous region

mandy7
Jul 9th, 2009, 01:15 PM
It means that the line between mandy7 and mango7 is always clear. :kiss:
Are you not capable of answering a serious question?
I just asked you what you meant.
Instead of assuming you meant something stupid and attacking you right away, i gave you a chance to explain yourself.
So, why don't you.
Why do you think calling me mango makes you look smart?

Lin Lin
Jul 9th, 2009, 01:27 PM
:smash:It's autonomous region

No need to smash me for calling it a province:o

Lin Lin
Jul 9th, 2009, 01:29 PM
Are you not capable of answering a serious question?
I just asked you what you meant.
Instead of assuming you meant something stupid and attacking you right away, i gave you a chance to explain yourself.
So, why don't you.
Why do you think calling me mango makes you look smart?

:rolls:she is smart as hell:rolls:

Lin Lin
Jul 9th, 2009, 01:31 PM
And do the Han Chinese treat all those ethnic groups like they do the Uyghurs?
I sure hope not!

like what?:shrug:your question itself gave you an answer already,no need to answer you it seems:wavey:

Lin Lin
Jul 9th, 2009, 01:34 PM
sleeping:wavey:

mariahdg
Jul 9th, 2009, 01:37 PM
Are you not capable of answering a serious question?
I just asked you what you meant.
Instead of assuming you meant something stupid and attacking you right away, i gave you a chance to explain yourself.
So, why don't you.
Why do you think calling me mango makes you look smart?

you gave me a chance:tape: OK

mandy7
Jul 9th, 2009, 01:41 PM
you gave me a chance:tape: OK
okay, you don't seem too bright and too well informed, so i'm just gonna back off and stay away from what will probably turn into an even more pointless discussion. :)
:wavey:

mariahdg
Jul 9th, 2009, 01:50 PM
okay, you don't seem too bright and too well informed, so i'm just gonna back off and stay away from what will probably turn into an even more pointless discussion. :)
:wavey:

:hatoff: I do have a hat already :lol:
I'll try my best in mandy's thread :devil:

mandy7
Jul 9th, 2009, 01:54 PM
:hatoff: I do have a hat already :lol:
I'll try my best in mandy's thread :devil:
stay out of my thread, you have no business there, so will only post to cause trouble, so i will report you when you do.

mariahdg
Jul 9th, 2009, 02:08 PM
stay out of my thread, you have no business there, so will only post to cause trouble, so i will report you when you do.

I take that as your request:awww:

InsideOut.
Jul 9th, 2009, 04:16 PM
And do the Han Chinese treat all those ethnic groups like they do the Uyghurs?
I sure hope not!

Put it this way. Han Chinese comprise over 90% of the Chinese population. A gross generalization of how the entire ethnic group treats other ethnic groups would be inadequate considering that China has 1.3 billion people. I'm Han Chinese myself. :wavey:

As is the case in most riots, a small group of Uygurs and a small group of Han Chinese are causing trouble and creating unneeded tension between ethnic groups. To insinuate that an entire ethnic group could be in the wrong would be silly.

Warrior
Jul 10th, 2009, 04:03 AM
China bans Urumqi mosque prayers

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8143554.stm

China has ordered mosques in its restive western city of Urumqi not to open for Friday prayers. The order comes after several days of ethnic violence between Uighur Muslims and Han Chinese. At least 156 people have been killed so far.
Thousands of troops remain in Urumqi, the capital of Xinjiang province, to try to maintain order.
The Chinese authorities have vowed to administer "severe punishment" to those involved in the riots.
An unnamed government officials told the Associated Press news agency that people in Xinjiang should "stay at home and pray", rather than gathering in mosques.
The official said the order had been given on public safety ground.
'Al-Qaeda links'
The violence began on Sunday when Uighurs rallied to protest against a deadly brawl between Uighurs and Han several weeks ago in a toy factory in southern Guangdong province.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46036000/jpg/_46036764_007624058-1.jpg Security has been high in the city since the recent unrest


Officials say 156 people - mostly Han - died in Sunday's violence.
Uighur groups say many more have died, claiming 90% of the dead were Uighurs.
More than 1,400 people are thought to have been detained.
On Thursday, China said it had "a great deal of evidence" that some of those involved in the violence had "training from foreign terrorist groups including Al-Qaeda".
Foreign ministry official Qin Gang did not say what the evidence was, but said the groups were "inextricably linked with three vicious forces from abroad".
Tensions have been growing in Xinjiang for many years, as Han migrants have poured into the region, where the Uighur minority is concentrated.
Many Uighurs feel economic growth has bypassed them and complain of discrimination and diminished opportunities.

mandy7
Jul 10th, 2009, 06:20 AM
Put it this way. Han Chinese comprise over 90% of the Chinese population. A gross generalization of how the entire ethnic group treats other ethnic groups would be inadequate considering that China has 1.3 billion people. I'm Han Chinese myself. :wavey:

As is the case in most riots, a small group of Uygurs and a small group of Han Chinese are causing trouble and creating unneeded tension between ethnic groups. To insinuate that an entire ethnic group could be in the wrong would be silly.
I know, and i wouldn't.
I should have added the words "Part of" in my post.
In my defence, i was very annoyed by the pathetic replies i was getting, so didn't really read through my post before submitting it. My bad though.

flyingmachine
Jul 10th, 2009, 08:19 AM
China is going through what Europe was going through in the early 1900's. Each ethnicity wants their own country.

This is hardly surprising. Especially the ultra nationalistic views which many Hans Chinese feel about themselves and towards the minority. The Chinese government is encourage that thinking. (Obviously for political purpose.) The results was alienated minority groups and some do feel like they are second class citizens and their own land/country. Oh yes many do feel they Chinese too. A bit like Afro-American should we say.
Therefore the splitting the country up are very temping for some of those minority. However is very similar to what you say about Europe in the 1900's especially, at central and eastern Europe at that time.
However, to me this is very similar to the early part of the civil rights movement.

mariahdg
Jul 10th, 2009, 11:08 AM
This is hardly surprising. Especially the ultra nationalistic views which many Hans Chinese feel about themselves and towards the minority. The Chinese government is encourage that thinking. (Obviously for political purpose.) The results was alienated minority groups and some do feel like they are second class citizens and their own land/country. Oh yes many do feel they Chinese too. A bit like Afro-American should we say.
Therefore the splitting the country up are very temping for some of those minority. However is very similar to what you say about Europe in the 1900's especially, at central and eastern Europe at that time.
However, to me this is very similar to the early part of the civil rights movement.

Please!!!! What kind of discrimination u heard :eek: That's not really a cup of chinese tea!!!!!!
Let's get this straight, city and countryside discrimination or southern and northern discrimination or regional discrimination are more discussible for chinese.
That's why chinese in this forum when reading western said that discriminate against minorities have made much reaction.

I did not say there will be a minority president in the near future. But minority be regular superior-first class citizen, only in China mainland.

Lin Lin
Jul 10th, 2009, 11:46 AM
Exactly,it's not a culture or tradition or fact for Chinese people to discriminate minorities:shrug:

But it's not strange why westerners obstinately think there are discriminations against minorities considering how they are educated and influenced.:shrug:

Some examples here for you:
In China,minorities have more opportunities to get enrolled in universities.ALL ethnic students get 20 or 30 points in the fierce College Entrance Examination while no policies towards Han Chinese.so you can see every years,there are many scandals about Han chinese students try to change their ethnic status to get the 20 points through some illegal way.This year,only in Chongqing city,mariahdg's home city, more than 30 Han chinese students changed their ethnic status and then punished by authorities. :help:


And all the ethnic students have free education in uniersities while Han chinese students still pay for universities.:wavey:

No one-child policy for minorities,and you must know it's only for Han chinese.:wavey:

Lin Lin
Jul 10th, 2009, 11:52 AM
And you might don'r know many many ethnic people helped or saved Han chinese during the riot and donated blood for the injured people in hospitals.:wavey:

InsideOut.
Jul 10th, 2009, 12:18 PM
This is hardly surprising. Especially the ultra nationalistic views which many Hans Chinese feel about themselves and towards the minority. The Chinese government is encourage that thinking. (Obviously for political purpose.) The results was alienated minority groups and some do feel like they are second class citizens and their own land/country. Oh yes many do feel they Chinese too. A bit like Afro-American should we say.
Therefore the splitting the country up are very temping for some of those minority. However is very similar to what you say about Europe in the 1900's especially, at central and eastern Europe at that time.
However, to me this is very similar to the early part of the civil rights movement.

:confused: And your basis for that accusation is...

You can bash lots of things about the Chinese people and the Chinese government, but that was unfounded and untrue. :o

flyingmachine
Jul 10th, 2009, 11:19 PM
:confused: And your basis for that accusation is...

You can bash lots of things about the Chinese people and the Chinese government, but that was unfounded and untrue. :o

You don't have to look hard for that. I remembered during last years during riots at Tibet many of the Chinese poster was puzzle why they are rioting. They feel that the government give they this and that but still not content with. However, instead of asking what do they need. It seems the government just tell them do this and that and don't asked any question. Plus the government has encourage the majority to move in to places like Tibet and the north west and that's makes them even more an disadvantage than before. Blaming it all to someone outside never solve the problem. Also there was a rumour about a French company was accusing donating funds to the Dalai Lama and guess what happened anti French protests all over China people blocking French supermarket, burning french flags etc and it was later on found the rumour to be untrue. :(
Unfortunately this will be not be last. :sad:
There is a thin line between pride and prejudice.
However, this is not surprising since the government did rise living standard for many Chinese especially for the Hans. So not surprise they do feel very proud about it and the government. Plus going over the top when someone saying negative things about them. But yet there are also many who left behind.

Warrior
Jul 16th, 2009, 12:52 AM
Al-Qaeda vows revenge on China after riots



http://www.tennisforum.com/multimedia/archive/00589/Uighur_589390a.jpg
(Ng Han Guan/AP)



The violence against the Uigher people has elicited sympathy in much of the Muslim world for the minority Muslim ethnic group who have long faced tight controls on their religious practices









Jane Macartney in Beijing









div#related-article-links p a, div#related-article-links p a:visited {color:#06c;} Al-Qaeda has issued its first threat against China with a vow to attack Chinese workers in North Africa in retaliation for Beijing’s treatment of Muslim Uighurs.
The threat, issued by the Algeria-based al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), highlights the risks faced by China as it expands its economic investments overseas.
“Although AQIM appear to be the first arm of al-Qaeda to officially state they will target Chinese interests, others are likely to follow,” an intelligence report from Stirling Assynt, a London-based risk analysis firm, says.
The warning followed deadly unrest in China’s westernmost region of Xinjiang last week, when 184 people died and 1,680 were injured — most of them Han Chinese killed by Uighurs.
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China must decide how to deal with al-Qaeda (http://www.tennisforum.com/tol/news/world/asia/article6710704.ece)
Death penalty for rioters as calm returns (http://www.tennisforum.com/tol/news/world/asia/china/article6671604.ece)
Urumqi violence extinguishes brother’s hope (http://www.tennisforum.com/tol/news/world/asia/article6695212.ece)



The violence has elicited sympathy in much of the Muslim world for the minority Muslim ethnic group who have long faced tight controls on their religious practices, and discrimination. “The general situation (and perceived plight) of China’s Muslims has resonated amongst the global jihadist community,” the report said. “There is an increasing amount of chatter among jihadists who claim they want to see action against China. Some of these individuals have been actively seeking information on China’s interests in the Muslim world, which they could use for targeting purposes.” Stirling Assynt said that its report was based on information from people who have seen the instruction from AQIM.
The al-Qaeda affiliate pledged to avenge fallen Muslims in Xinjiang by targeting the 50,000 Chinese workers in Algeria as well as Chinese projects and workers across northwest Africa. The group has a presence in Algeria, Mauritania, Niger and Mali.
Three weeks ago, AQIM attacked an Algerian security convoy protecting Chinese engineers on a motorway project, killing 24 paramilitary police. While the Chinese were not injured, the assessment notes: “Future attacks are likely to target security forces and Chinese engineers alike.”
Qin Gang, China’s Foreign Ministry spokesman, said that the Government remained opposed to all forms of terrorism. “We will keep a close eye on developments and make efforts with relevant countries to take all necessary measures to ensure the safety of overseas Chinese institutions and people.”
Fears have been mounting among Western counter-terrorism officials that AQIM turned a deadly corner in recent weeks, with a series of fatal attacks on foreigners. Its numbers appeared to have been buoyed by the return of its fighters from Iraqi battlefields, US officials have said.
The Associated Press reported that two extremist Islamic websites affiliated to al-Qaeda had called for the killing of Han in the Middle East, noting large communities of ethnic Chinese labourers in Algeria and Saudi Arabia.
Security remains tight in Urumqi, the capital of Xinjiang, after two Uighurs were shot dead by police yesterday and a third was wounded. Officials said that the men tried to incite a crowd to take part in jihad and tried to assault a guard at a mosque. All mosques are carefully regulated by the Government and worship has been restricted since the July 5 riot. Everyone in the city has been ordered to carry identity cards or driving licences or they will be interrogated.
After the September 11, 2001 attacks on the US, Washington agreed to a request from China and listed an Uighur group called the East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM) as a terrorist organisation. Despite the UN also listing the ETIM as a terrorist group, Western experts see scant signs that terrorist cells operate in Xinjiang, where Sunni Uighurs follow a moderate form of Islam.
Chinese workers, particularly those in Africa, Pakistan and Afghanistan, may be vulnerable to al-Qaeda attack, forcing China to rethink its strategy in a region where it has expanded its interests rapidly in recent years. Kidnapping could become an even higher risk for Chinese, previously targeted usually by mistake or for ransom.

Lin Lin
Jul 16th, 2009, 01:05 AM
The violence against the Uigher people ?what?what?

I have to say media distortion/propaganda finally "rewarded",they get what they want.:rolleyes:

People,stop turning black into white if you have a brain just in your head.:help:

mandy7
Jul 16th, 2009, 05:41 AM
The violence against the Uigher people ?what?what?

I have to say media distortion/propaganda finally "rewarded",they get what they want.:rolleyes:

People,stop turning black into white if you have a brain just in your head.:help:

BEIJING, China- Police shot and killed two ethnic Uyghurs and wounded another in a Chinese region that has seen violent ethnic strife in recent weeks, state media reported Monday.

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The police were trying to stop the three people from attacking a fourth person with clubs and knives in Urumqi, Xinjiang, China Radio International reported, citing the local government.

All four people involved in the incident were ethnic Uyghurs, a minority Muslim group distinct from China's majority Han population, CRI said.

At least 184 people were killed in demonstrations in the region eight days ago, and more than 1,600 injured, according to government figures.

Chinese President Hu Jintao cut short a trip to the Group of Eight summit in Italy last week in the face of the violence in his country.

Heavily armed troops remained on the streets of Urumqi over the weekend, and curfews were in effect.

On Saturday, the Chinese state news agency Xinhua reported that Urumqi has banned public assembly without police approval.


"Assemblies, marches and demonstrations on public roads and at public places in the open air are not allowed without the permission by police," read a notice by the Public Security Bureau of Urumqi, Xinhua said.



The Urumqi security measures on public assembly came on the eve of a sensitive day of mourning, media reported. It is traditional for ethnic Han to mourn their loss on the seventh day after a death, the South China Morning Post reported.

The violence is a result of ethnic tensions between the Uyghurs, who are predominantly Muslim, and members of China's Han majority.

Hundreds of Han Chinese were on Urumqi streets on July 7, holding sticks and pipes, and calling for punishment of the Uyghurs, who they say committed serious crimes.

The Uyghurs say they have been victimized and many of those killed in the violence were Uyghurs. Uyghur religious leaders have condemned the violence, saying it is against the spirit of the Muslim faith and Uyghur tradition.

Lin Lin
Jul 16th, 2009, 05:52 AM
"The police were trying to stop the three people from attacking a fourth person with clubs and knives",and the report DELIBERATELY didn't mention that police fired into sky seeral times for giving a warning,but the mobs turned to attack police with knives.

So,half truth is a total lie.we are watching your ugly performance,western media.:rolleyes:This is a very cunning report from western media,they seemingly cite chinese media's report,but they subtly cancel(sometimes add) some words to express another meaning to go on their propaganda.:help:

Crazy Canuck
Jul 16th, 2009, 05:54 AM
"The government didn't do it, and if they did, they were justified and only doing what is best for the people"

Rinse, repeat.

mandy7
Jul 16th, 2009, 05:56 AM
"The police were trying to stop the three people from attacking a fourth person with clubs and knives",and the report DELIBERATELY didn't mention that police fired into sky seeral times for giving a warning,but the mobs turned to attack police with knives.

So,half truth is a total lie.we are watching your ugly performance,western media.:rolleyes:This is a very cunning report from western media,they seemingly cite chinese media's report,but they subtly cancel(sometimes add) some words to express another meaning to go on their propaganda.:help:
you should be banned for being fucking stupid.

Lin Lin
Jul 16th, 2009, 05:57 AM
"The government didn't do it, and if they did, they were justified and only doing what is best for the people"

Rinse, repeat.

oh,well,this didn't emphasize the gov't specifically means Chinese gov't.:wavey:

Lin Lin
Jul 16th, 2009, 06:00 AM
you should be banned for being fucking stupid.

Lol,the police should act earlier to stop the mobs for killing more than 180,you won't care this I know.and your rooted and rude brain doesn't deserve a discussion with me any longer:wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey:

mandy7
Jul 16th, 2009, 06:04 AM
Lol,the police should act earlier to stop the mobs for killing more than 180,you won't care this I know.and your rooted and rude brain doesn't deserve a discussion with me any longer:wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey:
Haha, yeah, sure, no problem, my rooted and rude brain can handle that without giving a fuck :D

InsideOut.
Jul 17th, 2009, 02:12 PM
Oh lord. This thread is turning into a pretty ugly fight between Chinese posters and their Western counterparts. :o

I'm getting out of here. :wavey: