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Dunlop1
Jul 4th, 2009, 04:39 PM
This is the best Venus 'queen of grass' Williams could do?
After barraging through the draw?

Congrats to Serena on her 11th Slam.

WTA needs best of 5 set finals. At least that way you are guaranteed to watch 3 sets. Holding form for 3 straight sets is harder than for 2 so there's the chance that the finals will be a bit more competitive.

Dodoboy.
Jul 4th, 2009, 04:39 PM
Good point.

supergrunt
Jul 4th, 2009, 04:39 PM
The men's final will not be any better.

nfl46
Jul 4th, 2009, 04:40 PM
Hey, Venus is human. We are not perfect. Some days are better than others, and today just wasn't a great day for her. She'll be fine.

I agree. They do need best of 5 set finals, starting in 2010.

volta
Jul 4th, 2009, 04:40 PM
glad you watched it :)

bandabou
Jul 4th, 2009, 04:41 PM
Thank dunlop. And of course you enjoyed the RG final...

Polikarpov
Jul 4th, 2009, 04:41 PM
So what's new?

harloo
Jul 4th, 2009, 04:42 PM
The men's final will not be any better.

LMAO. All Federer will do is block back Andy's serve for three sets and it will be over.:tape::lol:

duhcity
Jul 4th, 2009, 04:42 PM
It wasn't a bad match.
It was very flat, and Serena turned it on and Venus didn't.

I do agree that it was very lackluster, and that all the slam finals this year have been underwhelming

HRHoliviasmith
Jul 4th, 2009, 04:43 PM
bait. this should be merged with his/her other thread.

Br'er Rabbit
Jul 4th, 2009, 04:45 PM
So you lied and watched the final as I thought.

Dunlop1
Jul 4th, 2009, 04:46 PM
The men's final will not be any better.

And you base this on what? Did you watch the 04 and 05 finals against Roddick (especially 04)
With the way Roddick is playing he will at least win a set.
But this is not about the men so your point is moot to begin with.

Dunlop1
Jul 4th, 2009, 04:47 PM
So you lied and watched the final as I thought.

If you can find where I said I will not watch the final I will leave this forum forever.

darrinbaker00
Jul 4th, 2009, 04:48 PM
And you base this on what? Did you watch the 04 and 05 finals against Roddick (especially 04)
With the way Roddick is playing he will at least win a set.
But this is not about the men so your point is moot to begin with.
No, it isn't. Once again, you started this thread for the specific purpose of eliciting these types of responses, so deal with it.

sweetpeas
Jul 4th, 2009, 04:48 PM
So what's new?
Right! Best of 5?????????You think the WTA people retire so fast now!!Gosh,So it would be 61 60 60 60 60?

ladydiana
Jul 4th, 2009, 04:49 PM
This match was HORRIBLE. Serena didn't play any differently than she did with Elena and her other players, but Venus did. Serena showed up and Venus didn't. The match between Serena and Elena was the match of the tournament. That was the worst match that they've ever played. I would have preferred Elena and Serena in the finals match. At least we would have gotten great play from both players. I had to get up at 6:00 am for this horrible match. Still Congrats to Serena.

supergrunt
Jul 4th, 2009, 04:54 PM
This match was HORRIBLE. Serena didn't play any differently than she did with Elena and her other players, but Venus did. Serena showed up and Venus didn't. The match between Serena and Elena was the match of the tournament. That was the worst match that they've ever played. I would have preferred Elena and Serena in the finals match. At least we would have gotten great play from both players. I had to get up at 6:00 am for this horrible match. Still Congrats to Serena.

If you think that was the worst match they ever played you haven't seen many of their matches.

Serendy Willick
Jul 4th, 2009, 05:02 PM
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:This match was HORRIBLE. Serena didn't play any differently than she did with Elena and her other players, but Venus did. Serena showed up and Venus didn't. The match between Serena and Elena was the match of the tournament. That was the worst match that they've ever played. I would have preferred Elena and Serena in the finals match. At least we would have gotten great play from both players. I had to get up at 6:00 am for this horrible match. Still Congrats to Serena.

Of course for you Venus fanatics anytime Venus loses to Serena its a horrible match and lackluster and "Venus gave it away":rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Serena is the truth and an all-time great. Congratlations Serena.

Golovinjured.
Jul 4th, 2009, 05:08 PM
This is the best Venus 'queen of grass' Williams could do?
After barraging through the draw?

Congrats to Serena on her 11th Slam.

WTA needs best of 5 set finals. At least that way you are guaranteed to watch 3 sets. Holding form for 3 straight sets is harder than for 2 so there's the chance that the finals will be a bit more competitive.

Grand Slams are ITF's.

InsideOut.
Jul 4th, 2009, 05:08 PM
Indeed. But best of 5 would not solve the problem. Venus was way too flat today to compete, another set like that wouldn't have changed much.

Ryan
Jul 4th, 2009, 05:09 PM
This is the best Venus 'queen of grass' Williams could do?
After barraging through the draw?

Congrats to Serena on her 11th Slam.

WTA needs best of 5 set finals. At least that way you are guaranteed to watch 3 sets. Holding form for 3 straight sets is harder than for 2 so there's the chance that the finals will be a bit more competitive.



SHUT UP. If your faves were in the final you wouldn't care about the score.

ladydiana
Jul 4th, 2009, 05:10 PM
Of course for you Venus fanatics anytime Venus loses to Serena its a horrible match and lackluster and "Venus gave it away":rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Serena is the truth and an all-time great. Congratlations Serena.
I didn't say that Venus gave the match away. I said that Serena showed up to play and Venus didn't. That doesn't mean that Venus would have won if she did show up to play. I just wanted to see a great match out of both the sisters. One thing that I do love from Serena is that she will show up to win and she'll go down fighting to the end. But Venus was not going down fighting today, and that doesn't take anything from Serena. Elena went down fighting to the end when she played Serena and I have to respect her for that even though she lost the match. That's what I'm saying about Venus. She should have done the same as Elena even if she lost the match too. I have no complaints against Serena and I don't think she gave Serena the match. When any player, regardless of Venus and Serena, when they fight for two weeks to get to the final and then give the audience a performance like Venus did, that's terrible. I use to really enjoy the women's matches over the men's, but the more that I watched the awesome play from the men, I've come to like their matches better. They play the best matches throughout the tournament.

HRHoliviasmith
Jul 4th, 2009, 05:12 PM
SHUT UP. If your faves were in the final you wouldn't care about the score.

:haha:

Renalicious
Jul 4th, 2009, 05:17 PM
Ohwell. We had a super semi.

BuTtErFrEnA
Jul 4th, 2009, 05:29 PM
up until 3-2 this was like the fed/haas match yesterday :shrug: ace, unreturnable serve, couple good rallies here and there, tb with some rallies and then serena rolled after gaining confidence

AcesHigh
Jul 4th, 2009, 05:49 PM
Serena is on another level and the rest of the WTA sucks ass in clutch moments. I wish Henin was here to give her a challenge.

FoxyliciousKhat
Jul 4th, 2009, 05:52 PM
glad you watched it :)

So you lied and watched the final as I thought.

ROFL as if he/she could resist.

Venus and Serena just following int he lackluster WTA Final trends Justine set

Foxy

supergrunt
Jul 4th, 2009, 06:17 PM
Serena is on another level and the rest of the WTA sucks ass in clutch moments. I wish Henin was here to give her a challenge.

Not to rag on Justine but she was not so good in the clutch always either. She and Venus are the same in that regard I actually think Venus is better.

cn ireland
Jul 4th, 2009, 06:20 PM
I have to admit that I was expecting a better final but Venus just didn't play well enough to keep it interesting!

tenn_ace
Jul 4th, 2009, 06:58 PM
Thank dunlop. And of course you enjoyed the RG final...

and a lot of crap was said about that one too. so why is Wimbeldon final safe from it?

Timariot
Jul 4th, 2009, 07:05 PM
YEC finals used to be best of 5, but often they did not produce good matches, and girls themselves didn't really like them. Women's tennis will always have greater quality swings than the mens - it is just something which has to be accepted. As for today's match, it was kinda poor, worse than last years' match (which was one of the better quality Williams matches) but really, I've seen worse.

Men's final really is not going to be any better. Fed will bunt back Roddick's serve, frustrate him with his shot placement and that will be that. In all fairness to Williams sisters, at least their matches are not as predictable...

Thanx4nothin
Jul 4th, 2009, 07:33 PM
The men's final will not be any better.

:worship:

T-rex
Jul 4th, 2009, 07:37 PM
This is the best Venus 'queen of grass' Williams could do?
After barraging through the draw?

Congrats to Serena on her 11th Slam.

WTA needs best of 5 set finals. At least that way you are guaranteed to watch 3 sets. Holding form for 3 straight sets is harder than for 2 so there's the chance that the finals will be a bit more competitive.



Good Post!

saniapower
Jul 4th, 2009, 07:43 PM
Good thing is that finally the drama ended. Its nothing but to make people fool.Venus didn't even try :tape: wta sucks :o
Hopefully we will see a real match tomorrow

bandabou
Jul 4th, 2009, 10:09 PM
It was pretty good actually till 2-2 in the second, then Vee totally lost it..and it became bad.
Now people are complaining about them serving too well and there being no rallies...

I guess it is hard to please people.

manu32
Jul 4th, 2009, 10:19 PM
It was pretty good actually till 2-2 in the second, then Vee totally lost it..and it became bad.
Now people are complaining about them serving too well and there being no rallies...

I guess it is hard to please people.

i agree and by far better than FO (easy),look at the stats

some people on this site are boring and need to see matches in the crowd just one day in their life