PDA

View Full Version : Suddenly, Americans Dominating....


tennisbum79
Jul 3rd, 2009, 06:09 PM
... Wimbledon 2009
The are in the final in

Ladies Singles
Gentlemen Singles
Ladies Doubles
Gentemen Doubles
Boys SinglesSuprising, given the anxiety in the US on the state of American tennis.

Inger67
Jul 3rd, 2009, 06:10 PM
Well the Bryan brothers have always been a force. As well as the WS to get a final in both singles and doubles. The only surprise is Andy Roddick who has been playing great this tournament! :) And the anxiety is because all of these players are on their up and out of the game. Given a few more years and they will be gone. :sad: We need better juniors to come up! C'mon Sloane!

CloudAtlas
Jul 3rd, 2009, 06:11 PM
Suddenly? The Williams sisters were always the heavy favourites to make it into the final and with Nadal out , Roddick was the second favourite after Murray to make the final from the top half of the draw.

In the doubles once again the WS were the favourites as they were the defending champions and the Bryan brothers are World #1. All of these results are predictable and US tennis is still in a bad state as the youngest of all the players involved will be 27 this year.

new-york
Jul 3rd, 2009, 06:14 PM
it's Wimbledon time. :D

CrossCourt~Rally
Jul 3rd, 2009, 06:14 PM
We also have Jordan Cox in the Boys Singles Final and we may have Huber in the Mixed Doubles Final :bounce:

jefrilibra
Jul 3rd, 2009, 06:16 PM
Blake and Fish could have made it an all-American final in men's doubles had they not choked after leading in the SF.

mckyle.
Jul 3rd, 2009, 06:17 PM
Could have been an All-American Men's doubles final :sobbing:

mckyle.
Jul 3rd, 2009, 06:18 PM
Blake and Fish could have made it an all-American final in men's doubles had they not choked after leading in the SF.

Posted around the same time :lol:

serenus_2k8
Jul 3rd, 2009, 06:18 PM
Suddenly? The Williams sisters were always the heavy favourites to make it into the final and with Nadal out , Roddick was the second favourite after Murray to make the final from the top half of the draw.

In the doubles once again the WS were the favourites as they were the defending champions and the Bryan brothers are World #1. All of these results are predictable and US tennis is still in a bad state as the youngest of all the players involved will be 27 this year.

Exactly.

Nice to see the Americans doing well though of course :)

Patrick345
Jul 3rd, 2009, 06:20 PM
Menīs tennis forums. CLOSED. :p:lol:

tennisbum79
Jul 3rd, 2009, 06:21 PM
Menīs tennis forums. CLOSED. :p:lol:
There is no rule that general tennis topic about Americans should be in Men's forum.

volta
Jul 3rd, 2009, 06:22 PM
Blake and Fish could have made it an all-American final in men's doubles had they not choked after leading in the SF.

never in doubt :o

DefyingGravity
Jul 3rd, 2009, 06:27 PM
Well, quite frankly...Americans at Wimbledon aren't a shock, given oh I don't know:

1992 - Agassi
1993 - Sampras
1994 - Sampras
1995 - Sampras
1997 - Sampras
1998 - Sampras
1999 - Davenport/Sampras
2000 - V. Williams/Sampras
2001 - V. Williams
2002 - S. Williams/Williams sisters
2003 - S. Williams
2004 - S. Williams finalist/Roddick finalist
2005 - V. Williams/Roddick finalist
2006 - V. Williams/Bob Bryan in final
2007 - V. Williams
2008 - V. Williams/Williams sisters
2009 - A Williams/Williams sisters/Cox/Roddick

I know that I'm forgetting some stuff in those years, but it's not surprising about Americans at Wimbledon. I dare say we do better here than at our own home slam.

tennisbum79
Jul 3rd, 2009, 06:28 PM
I hear all the agruments you are making, still this is an impressive feast for any country.

Just subtitue US with Serbia or any other country, there would not be these "it was expected" response intended to downplay the accomplishment.

DefyingGravity
Jul 3rd, 2009, 06:29 PM
I hear all the agruments you are making, still this is an impressive feast for any country.

Just subtitue US with Serbia or any other country, there would not be these "it was expected" response intended to downplay the accomplishment.

It is impressive, but for a country that's been considered a tennis power and a Grand Slam nation, it isn't as surprising. If the French did it as well, or Russians, it wouldn't be as impressive either.

It's the most impressive when they come out of a nation with not a hugely long tennis history like a Serbia or a Belgium.

guapogreg08
Jul 3rd, 2009, 06:30 PM
We also have Jordan Cox in the Boys Singles Final and we may have Huber in the Mixed Doubles Final :bounce:

since she claimed american citizenship, ive been ashamed to call myself american

manu32
Jul 3rd, 2009, 06:33 PM
Well, quite frankly...Americans at Wimbledon aren't a shock, given oh I don't know:

1992 - Agassi
1993 - Sampras
1994 - Sampras
1995 - Sampras
1997 - Sampras
1998 - Sampras
1999 - Davenport/Sampras
2000 - V. Williams/Sampras
2001 - V. Williams
2002 - S. Williams/Williams sisters
2003 - S. Williams
2004 - S. Williams finalist/Roddick finalist
2005 - V. Williams/Roddick finalist
2006 - V. Williams/Bob Bryan in final
2007 - V. Williams
2008 - V. Williams/Williams sisters
2009 - A Williams/Williams sisters/Cox/Roddick

I know that I'm forgetting some stuff in those years, but it's not surprising about Americans at Wimbledon. I dare say we do better here than at our own home slam.

i agree...
not suddenly....

but suddenly spaniards?? on clay?? with winners like costa,ferrero or argentins gaudio??? (don't know him),puerta,coria canas chela (dope's users)....
or east players ??

ladydiana
Jul 3rd, 2009, 06:34 PM
I'm so proud of ALL of the Americans, GO USA!!!

tennisbum79
Jul 3rd, 2009, 06:35 PM
It is impressive, but for a country that's been considered a tennis power and a Grand Slam nation, it isn't as surprising. If the French did it as well, or Russians, it wouldn't be as impressive either.

It's the most impressive when they come out of a nation with not a hugely long tennis history like a Serbia or a Belgium.
They used to be a powerhouse , no longer
Besides the WS and B Brothers, no American has won any GS titte in recent years.

Expat
Jul 3rd, 2009, 06:42 PM
They used to be a powerhouse , no longer
Besides the WS and B Brothers, no American has won any GS titte in recent years.

huber? is raymond still playing?

M-K
Jul 3rd, 2009, 06:48 PM
Love it! :D

Tennisation
Jul 3rd, 2009, 06:56 PM
No American in girls singles final? What does that tell you the future of American tennis after the Williams sisters? :sobbing:

DefyingGravity
Jul 3rd, 2009, 07:00 PM
They used to be a powerhouse , no longer
Besides the WS and B Brothers, no American has won any GS titte in recent years.

Well, the reason that no American man has won a Grand Slam title....Federer and Nadal, with the occasional Djokovic.

Don't you think Roddick would have won Wimbledon 2003 without Federer in his semi?

or 2004 and 2005 without Federer in the final?

Or how about the U.S. Open finals? Agassi would have won a U.S. Open without Federer there in the final.

And Nadal and the Spaniards on clay, though American tennis has been so clay inept before then with only two singles winners on clay in the 2000's (Capriati and Serena) and none really before then (you can't count Monica because she was Yugoslav when she won those).

tennisbum79
Jul 3rd, 2009, 07:03 PM
No American in girls singles final? What does that tell you the future of American tennis after the Williams sisters? :sobbing:
That is a big factor in American current state of anxiety, and it been this way the last couple of years.

Having said, right now, right this moement, I want to enjoy this, because the future in uncertain after Roddick/Blake and the WS

simonsaystennis
Jul 3rd, 2009, 07:12 PM
No American in girls singles final? What does that tell you the future of American tennis after the Williams sisters? :sobbing:

Sloane Stephens made the QF of both junior FO and Wimbledon. She lost to top seed Mladenovic at both.
We actually have a big group of young players with high potential in both boys and girls. It's a matter of them translating their results to the pro level. Unfortunately some just can't seem to do it, like Donald Young. :sad:

But yeah, go USA! :D

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Jul 3rd, 2009, 07:22 PM
Roddick will bend over this Sunday as usual . What a mug he is

I would have preferred Murray in the Final , he has the guts to face Federer

Ferg
Jul 3rd, 2009, 07:25 PM
Theres nothing wrong with the top American players, its the lack of depth that has people worried.

Slutiana
Jul 3rd, 2009, 07:52 PM
Well, quite frankly...Americans at Wimbledon aren't a shock, given oh I don't know:

1992 - Agassi
1993 - Sampras
1994 - Sampras
1995 - Sampras
1997 - Sampras
1998 - Sampras
1999 - Davenport/Sampras
2000 - V. Williams/Sampras
2001 - V. Williams
2002 - S. Williams/Williams sisters
2003 - S. Williams
2004 - S. Williams finalist/Roddick finalist
2005 - V. Williams/Roddick finalist
2006 - V. Williams/Bob Bryan in final
2007 - V. Williams
2008 - V. Williams/Williams sisters
2009 - A Williams/Williams sisters/Cox/Roddick

I know that I'm forgetting some stuff in those years, but it's not surprising about Americans at Wimbledon. I dare say we do better here than at our own home slam.
You missed out Maria Sharapova, Champion in 04. :tears:

Marionated
Jul 3rd, 2009, 08:13 PM
Roddick will bend over this Sunday as usual . What a mug he is

I would have preferred Murray in the Final , he has the guts to face Federer

Agreed. They may as well just hand Federer the title.

Dodoboy.
Jul 3rd, 2009, 08:13 PM
Oh ffs Murray!

Fed has a cakewalk YET again! I want to cry!

tennisbum79
Jul 3rd, 2009, 08:17 PM
Oh ffs Murray!

Fed has a cakewalk YET again! I want to cry!
Not so fast.
Roddick is a different person in this Wimbledon 2009.
He was very impressive today: composed, patient, making good decision.

He could pull a suprise and prevent Federer from beating fellow american Sampras's record.
We'll see, I am not willing to dismiss him . Not just yet.

Marionated
Jul 3rd, 2009, 08:20 PM
Not so fast.
Roddick is a different person in this Wimbledon 2009.
He was very impressive today: composed, patient, making good decision.

He could pull a suprise and prevent Federer from beating fellow american Sampras's record.
We'll see, I am willing to dismiss him just yet.

Roddick is way too slow to beat Federer+ 18-2 speaks for itself. Nadal needs to come back asap.

Sir Stefwhit
Jul 3rd, 2009, 08:28 PM
I've been laughing now for the past 10 years! That's about how long we've been hearing about the decline of tennis in the States.

Notice how all discussions about the decline of US tennis start with ignoring what Venus and Serena are CURRENTLY doing and looking into the future...lol "If you don't count Venus and Serena then what else does the US have", "Vee and Rena only have a few more years left, then what?".

The biggest hype being sold has been the decline of US tennis, but the facts don't support that. YOU CAN'T IGNORE VENUS AND SERENA...LOL!!! They represent US tennis so ignoring them makes no sense at all.

When Chris Evert was the dominant force in the US winning just about everything no one ever suggested ignoring her- or ignoring Federer, or ignoring Justine and Kim. Who honestly cares if you have a nation with 20 people in the top 100- the nation that's doing the best are the nations that are bringing home the slams.

10 years ago people suggested we only had a couple of years top for Vee and Rena that's why the "future" was so important- and here we are 10 years later watchign Serena and Venus in yet another slam final. By the time they're out it should be plenty of time for some new US youngster to be on the rise- no one can see the future, that's why we should focus on today. And today the US is doing just fine!

Shepster
Jul 3rd, 2009, 08:58 PM
Blake and Fish could have made it an all-American final in men's doubles had they not choked after leading in the SF.
THEY LOST? LMAO I stopped watching because they were pwning so much and I had better things to do. That's hilarious, I assumed they walked it.

Sir Stefwhit
Jul 3rd, 2009, 09:05 PM
RE: Rodick anytime he's doing good at a tournament "he's a different player".... funny how this so called different player keep getting the same result- loss after loss. Without Nadal mens' tennis is in a far worse state than women's tennis- by a long country mile!!!! Sad no one has heart and belief other than Nadal (murray and djokovic)....

Wimbledon belongs to the women this year.

moon
Jul 3rd, 2009, 10:20 PM
:) USA all the way!
Except in the men's final. ;)

RFSTB
Jul 3rd, 2009, 11:58 PM
The report of our demise was greatly exaggerated...

Did Larry Stefanki use to coach Lindsay? He looks so familiar.

I think being settled in his personal life helps Andy focus on tennis. He's no longer busy partying and chasing girls, that's why he's playing like a different man. The new coach helps a lot too. There's a new calmness when he plays these days, especially at the net. He's not the same manic player he once was, rushing through every point, cursing, twitching and grabbing himself non-stop in between points.:lol: I never liked Jimmy Connors. Not only did he not fix Andy's problem but he rubbed off his lousy cocky attitude on Andy. Same goes for Federer. Now that he and Mirka finally sealed the deal, she's probably a lot calmer around him and gives him peace to focus on tennis again. The men's Final is going to be awesome. The women's too. Last year's all Williams final was really high quality. I'm just thankful to not have Nadull in a tournament so we can finally have something other than a Nadull/Federer final. Hallelujah!

As someone pointed out earlier though, the US dominance at Wimbledon is not new. The problem is the next generation. Andy is 26 going on 27, with Nadal, Murray, Djokovic coming up and in the 21/22 age range. Serena is going on 28. Venus is 29. With no new talent in the horizon. When the WS and Roddick retire, the US dominance at Wimbledon may be a thing of the past.

young_gunner913
Jul 4th, 2009, 12:06 AM
hopefully they can do this at the US Open where we can cheer our Americans on. :bounce:

Dave.
Jul 4th, 2009, 12:16 AM
Suddenly? Liezel Huber has been the dominant doubles player for quite some time now, aswell as Bryan/Bryan. :shrug:



since she claimed american citizenship, ive been ashamed to call myself american

Good, you deserve to be ashamed.

Dawson.
Jul 4th, 2009, 01:04 AM
Greedy Americans :ras:... I'm so jealous :sobbing:

:p

IceSkaTennisFan
Jul 4th, 2009, 01:50 AM
Well, quite frankly...Americans at Wimbledon aren't a shock, given oh I don't know:

1992 - Agassi
1993 - Sampras
1994 - Sampras
1995 - Sampras
1997 - Sampras
1998 - Sampras
1999 - Davenport/Sampras
2000 - V. Williams/Sampras
2001 - V. Williams
2002 - S. Williams/Williams sisters
2003 - S. Williams
2004 - S. Williams finalist/Roddick finalist
2005 - V. Williams/Roddick finalist
2006 - V. Williams/Bob Bryan in final
2007 - V. Williams
2008 - V. Williams/Williams sisters
2009 - A Williams/Williams sisters/Cox/Roddick

I know that I'm forgetting some stuff in those years, but it's not surprising about Americans at Wimbledon. I dare say we do better here than at our own home slam.
Man, what happened in 96? :o

Just noticed the phallic obsession in American men's tennis lately. First Roddick, now Cox. What's next? Wang?

DefyingGravity
Jul 4th, 2009, 02:31 AM
Man, what happened in 96? :o

Just noticed the phallic obsession in American men's tennis lately. First Roddick, now Cox. What's next? Wang?

Richard Krajicek happened in 1996...damn him, Pete would have probably still lost to Ivanisevic or someone else in the final, because he wasn't playing his best...but still!