Can't think of a bigger jump happening before this!!
Sep 11th, 2002, 07:57 PM
Sep 11th, 2002, 08:30 PM
i believe that Widjaja and Lucic had higher jumps....especially since they won their tournaments they first played in....so maybe they counted ITFs..
Ill check my player guide later though
Sep 11th, 2002, 08:31 PM
and i think Jenny Capriati jumped higher too, or not?
Sep 11th, 2002, 11:11 PM
Yep, Capriati's first ranking was somewhere in the top 30 and Martina Hingis first ranking was # 87 after her 3 first tournaments
Sep 12th, 2002, 01:08 AM
Jen was in the top 30
Mirjana was #69
Martina H was # 87
Tracy A was ranked fairly high as well
I think Angelique was in the top 150 (?)
Sep 12th, 2002, 01:16 AM
Best Ranking Debuts:
Andrea Jaeger #19
Tracy Austin #21
Renee Richards (!) #21
Pam Shriver #24
Jennifer Capriati #25
Kathy Jordan #28
Zina Garrison #29
Andrea Leand #29
Anne Smith #32
Even though those aren't technically "jumps," they're more impressive, no?
Sep 12th, 2002, 01:41 AM
wasn't Rennee Richards a man or am i mistaken?
Sep 12th, 2002, 01:45 AM
Not then she wasn't.
Believe it or not, only women can play women's professional tennis.
Sep 12th, 2002, 03:54 AM
I'm not talking about Ranking debuts! Of course a lot of players have debuted in the top 100. I'm talking about a player that had a ranking and then made a huge rise.
Does anyone know of a rise bigger than Bielik's??????
Sep 12th, 2002, 04:02 AM
i think serena had a good jump
Sep 12th, 2002, 04:13 AM
I think Renee Richards was the man that had an operation to become a woman??? right? I know there is someone that played on both tours. Can't remember who it was.
Great for Bea!
I see Elena Bovina took a big leap this month also from 61 to 39 and Amy Frazier went from 73 to 50. Not as big as Bea's leap! That's awesome!
Sep 12th, 2002, 04:17 AM
you needed 6 tournaments back in Jens day to be ranked so you had more of a chance to get a higher one
since the new 3 tourn system
Mirjana's record is one which will probably never be defeated unless a top player goes injured for a year and comes back.
Sep 12th, 2002, 04:25 AM
Here's Serena's info from wtatour.com
First Tour main-draw appearance came as a qualifier at Moscow, where she lost to No. 22 Po; In just her second career main-draw event at Chicago as a WC, d. No. 7 Pierce in 2r and No. 4 Seles in QF before losing to Davenport in SF; ranked No. 304, became the lowest-ranked player to defeat a player in the Top 5 since unranked Stephanie Rehe defeated No. 3 Sabatini at 1990 Los Angeles, and the lowest-ranked player to defeat two Top 10 players in one tournament; ranking vaulted from No. 304 to 102
Sep 12th, 2002, 04:48 AM
A couple of notes: Renee Richards WAS the guy who had the operation to become a woman. I didn't hear that that he actually ever played on the men's tour. I read that he was a good collegiate-level player, but I'm not sure if he ever played a pro tournament as a man.
As for Jennifer Capriati, she achieved her Top 30 Ranking with THREE tournaments, not six. This one I'm sure about. She played Boca Raton (runner-up), Key Biscayne (3rd round), and Hilton Head Island (runner-up) before her ranking came out. She made the most spectacular debut that I've ever seen, not to mention the most hyped-up.
As far as ranking jumps are concerned, I've got to think Bea's is tops, or at least close to it.
Sep 12th, 2002, 04:56 AM
ranking system has changed a lot since then, used to be a percentage, so if Capriati gained 700 points from those 3 events, divide that by 14 and there is no way she would be top 30!
Sep 12th, 2002, 05:10 AM
I thought Serena had a great jump?
Sep 12th, 2002, 06:36 AM
Oh, also forgot to add
- World-ranked No. 53 on January 19, 1998, Serena became the third-highest ranked player after three major-tour main draw events since 1976.
- Ranked No. 96 and playing in her third main draw event on the major tour, made a stunning comeback to defeat world No. 2 Lindsay Davenport at the 1998 Sydney event and advance to the semifinals as a qualifier.
- Ranked No. 40, defeated three Top 30 players en route to a quarterfinal finish at 1998 Lipton -- No. 10 Irina Spirlea, No. 17 Patty Schnyder and No. 26 Barbara Paulus. Held two match points on world No. 1 Martina Hingis before losing in a third-set tie-break. Her ranking jumped to a then-career high No. 30.
- By defeating 10th-ranked Irina Spirlea in only her 16th career WTA Tour main-draw singles match at Lipton, she defeated five Top 10 players faster than any player in the history of professional women's tennis, breaking the previous record set by Monica Seles in 1989 who recorded her fifth career Top 10 victory in her 33rd main-draw match.
Sep 12th, 2002, 09:52 AM
Serena jumped 200 places, not even close to 851!
So nobody know players jumped more than Bielik???
Anyone know a player thats jumped more than Serena's, must be lots that have gone from 1100 to 600 or something!
Sep 12th, 2002, 10:08 AM
i know a few that have gone the other way ;)
Sep 12th, 2002, 11:23 AM
Bea is the highest so far I think
Sep 12th, 2002, 12:49 PM
LOL @ TBE!
Yeah like Miroslava Vavrinec, bless her soul, down from 250ish to 1100's last week!
Sep 12th, 2002, 02:19 PM
In 1990, Capriati's first year as a pro, the tournament divisor was 10, not 14. She first appeared in the rankings at #25, after her 3rd tournament.
Sep 12th, 2002, 04:06 PM
An interesting story about Renee Richards. In the early 1960s, as Richard Raskind, he played the U.S. nationals and drew that year's Wimbledon champion (can't remember his name) in the first round. When he/she became Renee Richards and was allowed to play the U.S. Open in 1977 as a woman, Richards drew Virginia Wade, also the reigning Wimbledon champion that year, as the opening round opponent.
While Richards was a novelty, I always felt it was unfair for her to play on the women's tour. Despite her operation, she still had a physical advantage over the real women. How else to explain the success she had on tour, even though she was well into her mid 40s.
Sep 12th, 2002, 07:59 PM
Wow, Bea! :o Congratulations.
Ranking debuts: I agree, they're pretty impressive, too. Could you imagine anyone entering the rankings today at No. 19? They'd have to get to three Grand Slam semifinals to do that.
Now, I got a trivia question for everyone: Which player had the highest RE-ENTRY into the rankings?
It's pretty easy if you think about it. :)
Sep 12th, 2002, 08:37 PM
Gotta be the Great Grunter Herself: Monica
Sep 13th, 2002, 12:52 AM
851* : 1102 = 77.22% (Jumped Up)
* 1102 previous - 251 current ranking
428* : 578 = 74.05% (Jumped Up)
* 578 previous-150 last time rank, when her rank was jumped Up
Sep 13th, 2002, 08:58 PM
TommyK you're right :)
Monica had actually two re-entries. The second was her return to the tour after her stabbing.
The first was back in 1989. She played a couple tournaments in 1988, enough to get onto the computer at No. 86. She fell of the rankings a few months into '89, but after winning the Houston event (beating Chris Evert!), she re-entered at No. 23.
Also, Billie Jean King had a very high re-entry into the rankings once. She ended 1983 ranked No. 12 (at age 40!), dropped off for a week of two, and then came back on at No. 13.
Sep 14th, 2002, 12:07 AM
Marion Bartoli just leaped from 231 to 130. :)
Sep 14th, 2002, 04:47 PM
Wow, this has been a busy week for a lot of girls.
Also, Corina will be back on the computer next week! :bounce:
She'll come in just shy of No. 600! Congratulations, and welcome back! :)