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:inlove:
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:38 AM
LMFAO. What is going on between them?

Bartoli retires. Razzano comes up to her. Bartoli doesn´t look at her. Then Razzano puts her hand out, and Bartoli completely blanks her. :speakles: Drama :inlove:

kman
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:39 AM
Oh is that why the crowd was booing?

I was distracted for moment. Then heard the crowd booing and when I turned to look I just saw Razzano waving to the crowd and looking a bit abashed.

Sean.
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:39 AM
That was disgraceful!

Bijoux0021
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:39 AM
Where did you get this? The match is not over, is it?

Alizé Molik
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:39 AM
sif. I saw it too, pretty sure there was no intentional slight.

Ferg
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:39 AM
Marion :hearts:

Lighter
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:39 AM
Virginie said yesterday that "Marion is a special girl". On my opinion, Marion didn't appreciate what Virginie said about her.

frenchie
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:40 AM
maybe because of yesterday's comments

Bijoux0021
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:40 AM
LMFAO. What is going on between them?

Bartoli retires. Razzano comes up to her. Bartoli doesn´t look at her. Then Razzano puts her hand out, and Bartoli completely blanks her. :speakles: Drama :inlove:
Come on Bartoli! That was low.:o

rrfnpump
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:40 AM
That was :inlove:. Bartoli was just ice-cold.

There were quite a lot incidents between them in the past including yesterdays comments, but Bartoli could have at least shaken her hand. Lolz.

John.
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:40 AM
Disgraceful behaviour

Libertango
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:41 AM
And even before, there were two death stares from Marion to Virginie after a point. Even my Mother was like "what's the beef?!" :eek:

Elenarulez
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:41 AM
You have to love Marion =)

Alizé Molik
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:41 AM
maybe because of yesterday's comments

oh yeah that is possible, but a better way of getting back at her would be to win the match, not put in 50% and then retire with a fake injury.

PersephoneDisco
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:41 AM
That was horrible from Marion, I know she's injured but come off it.

TTomek
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:41 AM
no comment :o :help: :ignore:

Adal
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:41 AM
Great thread :lol::wavey:

дalex
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:41 AM
maybe because of yesterday's comments

What was it that was said yesterday?

Marion :o

kman
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:41 AM
well, now it's time for Miss Sunshine. Win or lose she'll be all smiles.

:inlove:
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:42 AM
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Great thread :lol::wavey:

RIGHt ON!!!!! what abouT DECeASed sisTEr HUh??????? :fiery::mad::wavey:

Ferg
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:42 AM
What was it that was said yesterday?

Marion :o

She said Marion would do anything to win. :tape: Still not a good reason to blank her.

:inlove:
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:42 AM
There were quite a lot incidents between them in the past including yesterdays comments

Care to enlighten us/me? :inlove:

Drimal
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:42 AM
So classless from Marion. :o

Wayn77
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:43 AM
Bitch-fest :drool:

Alizé Molik
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:44 AM
well considering Razzano said all that crap about marion after W in 07 when marion chose not to play fed cup i guess there's not a lot of love lost between them.

Wannabeknowitall
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:44 AM
This is really not going to help Bartoli on the French FED CUP.
There should be unity with the French women.

I'm very dissapointed in Marion.
Whatever Razzano said before does not equat to not shaking hands.
I'm sure Razzano still wishes Marion the best at Wimbledon and hope she's healthy.

FrenchY52
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:44 AM
As if it was Virginie's fault if she was injured. Anyway it's not surprising from Marion, it's not the 1st time something like this happen during one of her matches.

Good luck in the final Virginie :hearts:

Lighter
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:44 AM
There is also an older story between Virginie and Marion's father in Paris '08.

Yesterday comments here : http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/page/VideoInterviews/InterviewsDetail/0,,12781~1696114,00.html

sammy01
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:45 AM
i openly called bartoli a classless bitch yesterday when she beat chak, as she pulls stunts like this all the time. i've only ever seen chak refuse to shake a players hand twice and both have been bartoli due to disgraceful abuse of trainers and time wasting.

today bartoli showed her true colours once more by acting like a bitch towards razzano.

she makes the WTA look stupid

Ferg
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:45 AM
Disappointed in Marion but love the bitching that goes on betwen the girls. :drool: And people say mens tennis is more exciting?

ce
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:46 AM
marion :weirdo:

Ferg
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:46 AM
i openly called bartoli a classless bitch yesterday when she beat chak, as she pulls stunts like this all the time. i've only ever seen chak refuse to shake a players hand twice and both have been bartoli due to disgraceful abuse of trainers and time wasting.

today bartoli showed her true colours once more by acting like a bitch towards razzano.

she makes the WTA look stupid

You support Chaky. :tape: :lol:

Elenarulez
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:47 AM
Her behavior is understandable with the background ... the interview yesterday from razzano was just o.O ...

FrenchY52
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:48 AM
There is also an older story between Virginie and Marion's father in Paris '08.

Yesterday comments here : http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/page/VideoInterviews/InterviewsDetail/0,,12781~1696114,00.html

Oh yeah you mean the time when Virginie was close from the serve line to return (like Marion herself often does and which isn't bad) and Marion didn't like that and clapped her hands and then got booed by the whole crowd ? Anyway at the end of the match they still kissed.

Dorcas Monjimbo
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:48 AM
That is poor behavior from Marion if she actually did that. I should have thought she is above that and good sportsmanship doesn't require that.

SM
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:50 AM
i love marion :D

-Sonic-
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:52 AM
oh maz, way to get the grannies tutting...... But - i'd try to avoid any bodily contact with the raz as well though if i was her :-( not my idea of fun.

Nickk
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:53 AM
After those stupid comments I wouldn't have shaken her hand either.

Lighter
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:53 AM
Oh yeah you mean the time when Virginie was close from the serve line to return (like Marion herself often does and which isn't bad) and Marion didn't like that and clapped her hands and then got booed by the whole crowd ? Anyway at the end of the match they still kissed.But Virginie said that Walter talked to her and didn't appreciate it.

Wojtek
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:56 AM
i openly called bartoli a classless bitch yesterday when she beat chak, as she pulls stunts like this all the time. i've only ever seen chak refuse to shake a players hand twice and both have been bartoli due to disgraceful abuse of trainers and time wasting.

today bartoli showed her true colours once more by acting like a bitch towards razzano.

she makes the WTA look stupid

Razzano made stupid comments about Marion few times

Libertango
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:57 AM
What Virginie said yesterday wasn't that bad ... at all. :shrug:

Someone needs to get over it.

Slutiana
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:02 PM
This is why we love the WTA. :inlove:

davidmario
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:03 PM
The tour needs characters like Marion - that's why we love it:hearts:

But I have to admit that Virginie's interview yesterday was absolutely classless. I do think though that it is for Virginie's limited abilities to express herself properly in english. She just laughed and thought the crowd would know exactly what she means - but they didn't.

Rocketta
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:05 PM
It was definitely funny :lol: FYI, to Marion I doubt it hurt Razzano's feelings considering she just got the win. :lol: She should've just shook her hand smiled and called her a bitch at the same time but now she just looks very very petty. :shrug:

VishaalMaria
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:09 PM
Uhm, Virgine Razzano's English isn't all that good, so she was probably mis-interpreted with her "Marion will do everything to win" comment.

Still, Marion should have shaked her hand. Pretty classless.

schorsch
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:09 PM
This is really not going to help Bartoli on the French FED CUP.
There should be unity with the French women.

I'm very dissapointed in Marion.
Whatever Razzano said before does not equat to not shaking hands.
I'm sure Razzano still wishes Marion the best at Wimbledon and hope she's healthy.

liberté, égalité, fraternité :hearts:

Wojtek
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:12 PM
Uhm, Virgine Razzano's English isn't all that good, so she was probably mis-interpreted with her "Marion will do everything to win" comment.

Still, Marion should have shaked her hand. Pretty classless.

Probably not. It's not the first time.

Beat
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:13 PM
Razzano made stupid comments about Marion few times
like?

not shaking hands is an absoulte no-go in my book. i'm really disappointed in marion, who otherwise seems like an intelligent girl. :shrug:

Six Feet Under
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:16 PM
Razzano is just one of the french players who have a strong dislkie for marion.

Marion's been excluded with anything to do with french tennis after the fed final loss (in 2002 or 3?.) After her and Loit lost the final rubber to Myskina and Bepa. True to fact Loit has been segregated a bit to but from then on Marion has wanted nothing to do with french tennis, or rather french tennis had wanted nothing to do with her.

The previous head of french tennis would only allow marion to train with them and play fed cup if she dumped her father and conformed to their training techniques, marion deciding to stick with her father hasn't had much of a relationship with them since. Now with the slumping of cornet and mauresmo the french are now wanting marion back, as she has been there no.1 player for quite some time now. But rightly so, she is still reluctant to the conformity. I'm not exactly clear on the subject and their is probably alot more to it, but this is the basic reason why marion isn't friends with many of the french players.

She shouldn't have to tolerate razzano. Good on her for not being fake, she should treat virgine with the sam amount of respect the virginie does for her

Russianboy
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:18 PM
There is also an older story between Virginie and Marion's father in Paris '08.

Yesterday comments here : http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/page/VideoInterviews/InterviewsDetail/0,,12781~1696114,00.html

uffff i know everything :lol::lol::lol: omg with that accent hahah shes so funny :lol:

Marcelo.
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:23 PM
Marion :o :o :sad:

Virgine is always so sweet :awww: :awww:

SVK
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:27 PM
Marion shows today, that she is really a "special girl":o
I think this "She can try everything to win" (or something like this) wasn´t in bad meaning:shrug:

I love Virginie´s accent:hearts::lol:

volta
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:28 PM
bitchy Marion :hearts:

djul14
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:32 PM
maybe because of yesterday's comments

Qui sont ?

Peu importe Bartoli m'est juste insupportable, son jeu juste horrible à regarder, sa personnalité, bref.

homogenius
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:33 PM
Marion's "me vs the World" attitude is getting old.

Hazel
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:36 PM
I think people secretly - and not so secretly! - love a bit of cat fighting amongst the players!

In some ways I feel for Marion - she had just lost a chance to go into a final on a surface she has always done quite well in. Some even thought she may win the title. it must have ticked her off that she was beaten by an old rival with a lower ranking.

Sometimes in life one just can't be bring oneself to be polite!

:inlove:
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:38 PM
she should treat virgine with the sam amount of respect the virginie does for her

So...If Razzano shows respect and puts her hand out to Marion then she should shake it, right?

Jose.
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:39 PM
Virginie was a bit bad :help:
Well done Marion :)

Sharapower
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:40 PM
I always disliked Marion.

Alizé Molik
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:42 PM
Qui sont ?

Peu importe Bartoli m'est juste insupportable, son jeu juste horrible à regarder, sa personnalité, bref.

oulàlà faut pas demander de questions de ce genre...on sais tous ce qu'il y'a entre virginie et marion.

simplement, marion est fière, et quand elle croit que quelqu'un n'a pas de respect pour elle, c'est fini comme ça. ;)

Serenita
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:45 PM
i openly called bartoli a classless bitch yesterday when she beat chak, as she pulls stunts like this all the time. i've only ever seen chak refuse to shake a players hand twice and both have been bartoli due to disgraceful abuse of trainers and time wasting.

today bartoli showed her true colours once more by acting like a bitch towards razzano.

she makes the WTA look stupid
ooh shut the hell up.
these are 2 bitches who dont like each other.

Sammm
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:45 PM
Marion :zzz: get over it please and focus on tennis.

Lighter
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:46 PM
Qui sont ?

Peu importe Bartoli m'est juste insupportable, son jeu juste horrible à regarder, sa personnalité, bref.Alors ne regardes pas ses matchs et ne fait pas de commentaires.:wavey:

Et, puis si t'as du temps, renseignes toi un peu plus sur son histoire et peut être que tu porteras un oeil différent sur cette joueuse.

Serenita
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:49 PM
In that interview she basicly called Marion a Cheater.

Nickk
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:50 PM
I am sorry, but I highly doubt Virginie's words were misinterpreted due to her lack of language skills.
Her tone spoke for itself. And her laughter was rather ironic. In my opinion, she was making it very clear that Marion and her were far from being friends.

MatchpointPRT
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:50 PM
Marion shows today, that she is really a "special girl":o
I think this "She can try everything to win" (or something like this) wasn´t in bad meaning:shrug:

I love Virginie´s accent:hearts::lol:

Yes, that´s what i thought when i saw the interview video. She was nice to say "special girl" and Marion really confirmed it with her "special" attitude, and it´s not the first time she is so nice.:rolleyes:
About the interview i don´t see anything wrong... i don´t understand why people say Razzano´s interview was classless.

Ferg
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:51 PM
ooh shut the hell up.
these are 2 bitches who dont like each other.

Thats probably the best description of it on this thread. :lol:

nashi
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:54 PM
:lol:

mauresmofan
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:58 PM
Marions a bit of a bitch - always thought she was nice but now I know different. Maybe Serena is right there's so much bitchiness in womens tennis.

Nico_E
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:59 PM
grow the fuck up Bartoli, maybe if you were half fit you wouldnt need the the trainer 5 billion times a season

another thing i dont understand are these 'oh exciting, good for the game' crap

:retard:

sammy01
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:00 PM
In that interview she basicly called Marion a Cheater.

whats wrong with stating the truth?

Nico_E
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:01 PM
In that interview she basicly called Marion a Cheater.well she is, she is basically an un-fit player who uses the trainers an abnormal amount of times for breaks and rests

Navratilova knows her stuff

Ferg
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:02 PM
well she is, she is basically an un-fit player who uses the trainers an abnormal amount of times for breaks and rests

Navratilova knows her stuff

Stop using 07 insults. So old :wavey:

The Dawntreader
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:04 PM
Marion is the ultimate oddball.

Unless it was for some extreme unknown reason, she was a total cow for not shaking hands.

BartoliBabes
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:07 PM
OK, so maybe Marion shoulda just shook Virginie's hand but, after watching that interview I can understand why she didn't:tape: Especially, after the whole mocking Marion's return stance in GDF 2008, and the Fed Cup shit:rolleyes: If I was Marion and seen Razzano's smug face coming to shake my hand after retiring I think I'd probably not shake it either:tape::lol:

Matt01
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:11 PM
In that interview she basicly called Marion a Cheater.


You mean the comment "she will do everything to win"?

That is not the same as calling her a cheater :rolleyes:

Lighter
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:12 PM
OK, so maybe Marion shoulda just shook Virginie's hand but, after watching that interview I can understand why she didn't:tape: Especially, after the whole mocking Marion's return stance in GDF 2008, and the Fed Cup shit:rolleyes: If I was Marion and seen Razzano's smug face coming to shake my hand after retiring I think I'd probably not shake it either:tape::lol:agree.

The Dawntreader
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:14 PM
In that interview she basicly called Marion a Cheater.

That to me seemed like a break in translation anyway. I actually think Virginie was saying that she would try and use every shot possible to try and beat her.

Even if she was implying it, implication is not declaration.

Ferg
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:14 PM
You mean the comment "she will do everything to win"?

That is not the same as calling her a cheater :rolleyes:

Its practically the same, only saying it in a different way. What else could it mean?

Marionated
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:21 PM
Marion doesn't seem to be friendly with any of her fellow french players anyway. Stupid fed cup issues.

Ferg
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:23 PM
Marion doesn't seem to be friendly with any of her fellow french players anyway. Stupid fed cup issues.

She was friendly with Emilie :hearts: But certainly not Razzano, Dechy (i think?) or Golovin. :tape: Dunno bout her and Amelie, they seem ok.

bengt
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:24 PM
Razzano is an idiot. If you can't say it properly, then shut up. And especially her laughing when saying it...UGH!

BartoliBabes
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:27 PM
Razzano is an idiot. If you can't say it properly, then shut up. And especially her laughing when saying it...UGH!

:worship:

Fantasy Hero
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:28 PM
i dunno, but Marion many times before proved to be an asshole...

bobbynorwich
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:28 PM
not shaking hands is an absoulte no-go in my book. i'm really disappointed in marion, who otherwise seems like an intelligent girl. :shrug:

Exactly, there's no excuse for such bad sportsmanship. Would she have refused to shake her hand if she'd won? I lost a lot of respect for Marion today.

itzhak
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:29 PM
some quotes:

Razzano had earlier accused Bartoli of underhand tactics, saying in French newspaper L’Equipe: “You get the impression that on court it’s okay by her to use any means to win: calling on the trainer, crying, limping.”

Bartoli told reporters on Friday: “To say what she said yesterday in the French newspaper, that is not really brilliant. I guess that is just the way she is.”

Razzano warmed to the theme again in her own post-match news conference, saying of Bartoli: “She tries to do things to make your concentration drop. She can try anything to win. When you play Marion you need to prepare for everything.”

Sharapower
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:31 PM
French chicks....
oh la laaaa...

CrossCourt~Rally
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:31 PM
This is one of the reasons ( actually 2 of the reasons with her retirement ) i am not a fan of Marions. She seems to be a very disrespectful person . :sad:

CrossCourt~Rally
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:32 PM
some quotes:

Razzano had earlier accused Bartoli of underhand tactics, saying in French newspaper L’Equipe: “You get the impression that on court it’s okay by her to use any means to win: calling on the trainer, crying, limping.”

Bartoli told reporters on Friday: “To say what she said yesterday in the French newspaper, that is not really brilliant. I guess that is just the way she is.”

Razzano warmed to the theme again in her own post-match news conference, saying of Bartoli: “She tries to do things to make your concentration drop. She can try anything to win. When you play Marion you need to prepare for everything.”

Razzano is 100% right :lol::worship:

Cat's Pajamas
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:34 PM
Other players don't like Marion for a reason. :shrug:

All the injuries, timeouts, etc. She lacks class. :o

John.
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:34 PM
some quotes:

Razzano had earlier accused Bartoli of underhand tactics, saying in French newspaper L’Equipe: “You get the impression that on court it’s okay by her to use any means to win: calling on the trainer, crying, limping.”

Bartoli told reporters on Friday: “To say what she said yesterday in the French newspaper, that is not really brilliant. I guess that is just the way she is.”

Razzano warmed to the theme again in her own post-match news conference, saying of Bartoli: “She tries to do things to make your concentration drop. She can try anything to win. When you play Marion you need to prepare for everything.”

Razzano is actually right :tape:

BartoliBabes
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:34 PM
When you play Marion you need to prepare for everything:lol::eek:

sammy01
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:35 PM
some quotes:

Razzano had earlier accused Bartoli of underhand tactics, saying in French newspaper L’Equipe: “You get the impression that on court it’s okay by her to use any means to win: calling on the trainer, crying, limping.”

Bartoli told reporters on Friday: “To say what she said yesterday in the French newspaper, that is not really brilliant. I guess that is just the way she is.”

Razzano warmed to the theme again in her own post-match news conference, saying of Bartoli: “She tries to do things to make your concentration drop. She can try anything to win. When you play Marion you need to prepare for everything.”

razzano is right, bartoli has more medical time outs than any other and you have to be an idiot or a blinded fan to not see she uses them tactically.

she must be well past her 6 allowed for the year already, i can recall 5 off the top of my head and i avoid watching marion as much as possible.

i wish more players would call marion out on her gamesmanship, her antics against sugi at dubai this year were just plain wrong, if i was sugi id have confronted her in the locker room and called her out on her shit.

Kabomba
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:39 PM
Didn't Razzano talk shit about some other players too? I think she made some comments about Ana also,but I can't remember what... But also,Marion sometimes really acts like the whole world is against her. It's kinda stupid

Marionated
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:41 PM
:lol: at fans of Anna "if you can't beat a player of this quality who can you beat" Chak coming in here to criticise Marion about class. Virginie shouldn't have said those things to the french newspaper, Marion should have shook her hand.

Dawn Marie
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:42 PM
Well, Marion looked like the ugly tool, while Razzano made out like the rose. She allowed Virgie to make her look classless. I am no Bartoli fan, and this confirms it even more. The average fan who saw it only saw MARION being UGLY.

Ferg
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:43 PM
razzano is right, bartoli has more medical time outs than any other and you have to be an idiot or a blinded fan to not see she uses them tactically.

she must be well past her 6 allowed for the year already, i can recall 5 off the top of my head and i avoid watching marion as much as possible.

i wish more players would call marion out on her gamesmanship, her antics against sugi at dubai this year were just plain wrong, if i was sugi id have confronted her in the locker room and called her out on her shit.

See Sammy, this is why noone takes you seriously when you rant about class. You cant call players classless and pieces of crap and being big fan of Chaky who enjoys throwing tantrums, screaming, crying and yelling at ballboys. :tape:

You can talk it off by saying Chanky is just being a bitch and its different but its the exact same thing.

Drimal
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:43 PM
some quotes:

Razzano had earlier accused Bartoli of underhand tactics, saying in French newspaper L’Equipe: “You get the impression that on court it’s okay by her to use any means to win: calling on the trainer, crying, limping.”

Bartoli told reporters on Friday: “To say what she said yesterday in the French newspaper, that is not really brilliant. I guess that is just the way she is.”

Razzano warmed to the theme again in her own post-match news conference, saying of Bartoli: “She tries to do things to make your concentration drop. She can try anything to win. When you play Marion you need to prepare for everything.”

Virginie is right by saying that Marion is trying everything to make concentration of your opponent drop.

Just look at her injury timeout at 30:30 on Chaky's serve yesterday for the most recent example. :tape:

Keadz
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:44 PM
Razzano uses A LOT of gamesmanship as well. The amount of time she take between points is pathetic, she always tries to slow down matches...her wayward ball tosses she does on purpose to annoy the opponent. I can't stand watching her play.

Ferg
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:46 PM
Virginie is right by saying that Marion is trying everything to make concentration of your opponent drop.

Just look at her injury timeout at 30:30 on Chaky's serve yesterday for the most recent example. :tape:

Dont forget about Chaks "WHATS THE SCORE" when Marion was preparing to serve. :wavey: Theres two big scoreboards on the court darling.

Sharapower
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:47 PM
her antics against sugi at dubai this year were just plain wrong, if i was sugi id have confronted her in the locker room and called her out on her shit.
What was that ?

Libertango
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:47 PM
:lol: @ this thread. I personally agree with Virginie on this one...

And what did Marion do to Sugi in Dubai?!

frenchie
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:49 PM
LOL at this thread

Razzano is not a saint either. She tosses the ball 3 times before actually serving
She calls the ball out with her finger before the ball actually bounces...

sammy01
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:51 PM
:lol: at fans of Anna "if you can't beat a player of this quality who can you beat" Chak coming in here to criticise Marion about class. Virginie shouldn't have said those things to the french newspaper, Marion should have shook her hand.

See Sammy, this is why noone takes you seriously when you rant about class. You cant call players classless and pieces of crap and being big fan of Chaky who enjoys throwing tantrums, screaming, crying and yelling at ballboys. :tape:

You can talk it off by saying Chanky is just being a bitch and its different but its the exact same thing.

1, i have never said anything but i don't like it when chak barks at ballboys and wish she never does it again. 2, throwing a tantrum on court isn't bending the rules, the only one it puts off is chak. taking a injury timeout at 30-30 on a players serve, or at *5-6 final set before a player is about to serve to stay in the match is purely done to put players off.

chak when being mardy and a bitch only hampers herself, marion bartoli deliberately does certain things as a tactic to put players off.

chakvetadze is very fair when it comes to handshakes at the net, shes that i know of only not shook a players hand twice, both times being bartoli because of bartolis on court sportsmanship.

The Dawntreader
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:52 PM
See Sammy, this is why noone takes you seriously when you rant about class. You cant call players classless and pieces of crap and being big fan of Chaky who enjoys throwing tantrums, screaming, crying and yelling at ballboys. :tape:

You can talk it off by saying Chanky is just being a bitch and its different but its the exact same thing.

Why do you keep tagging Anna in with Sammy's posts? He is not a reflection or an interpretation of her on this board. He's just a fan of hers.

sammy01
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:53 PM
Why do you keep tagging Anna in with Sammy's posts? He is not a reflection or an interpretation of her on this board. He's just a fan of hers.

don't worry im used to it, i cant have an opinion apperently because im a chakvetadze fan.

Ferg
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:53 PM
Why do you keep tagging Anna in with Sammy's posts? He is not a reflection or an interpretation of her on this board. He's just a fan of hers.

Because its laughingly hypocritical.

Dave.
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:56 PM
I totally understand why Marion didn't shake her hand. She clearly does not have a good history with Razzano, they don't like each other, and that has only continued this week with Razzano's tasteless comments (those were uncalled for the day before a match). Plus having to retire with an injury, Marion was probably alot more concerned with that then shaking Razzano's hand.


That all said, I still wish that Marion did shake her hand because now to alot of people it will come off that she is the classless one, when in fact she isn't. But oh well, Marion was pissed having to retire, so she's obviously not going to care about Razzano or looking a bad sport.


Regarding Marion's injury time-outs, I think this RETIREMENT!!! proves that they aren't fake, we all know Marion has had her injury problems over the years. Anyway, it's perfectly within the rules to call for the trainer. It's up to the umpires to allow and oversee them. If a player loses a match or has their concentration shaken by a 3 minute time out then they didn't deserve to win the match in the first place.

améliemomo
Jun 19th, 2009, 02:08 PM
another show of bartoli lack of class:rolleyes::rolleyes:

pathetic as always when she sees she's losing

razzano is more likeable player,allez virginie!:kiss:

AndreConrad
Jun 19th, 2009, 02:08 PM
Strange thread... I guess these are just different personalities. Just to express my opinion I think the hand shake is for the match and it has nothing to do with what happened in the past outside of the court.

I have to say that I have a lot of respect for people that can separate all shit that surrounds the event and gracefully compete and complete the competition with a hand shake thanking the oponent for the oportunity to compete with her. I believe these people have class. The ones that don't have the capability I would not call classless, but they certainly don't have what the first category has.

RenaSlam.
Jun 19th, 2009, 02:09 PM
Great. :lol:

Dexter
Jun 19th, 2009, 02:10 PM
I don't think Virginie's comments were THAT bad yesterday. They made me laugh actually, her broken English is just too adorable. :lol:
I'm aware that there's not much love between them and Virginie ain't the saint one here, but it's really disappointing to see Marion acting this way. She could do better. :rolleyes:

The Dawntreader
Jun 19th, 2009, 02:13 PM
Because its laughingly hypocritical.

Who's laughing?

Dave.
Jun 19th, 2009, 02:14 PM
Strange thread... I guess these are just different personalities. Just to express my opinion I think the hand shake is for the match and it has nothing to do with what happened in the past outside of the court.

I have to say that I have a lot of respect for people that can separate all shit that surrounds the event and gracefully compete and complete the competition with a hand shake thanking the oponent for the oportunity to compete with her. I believe these people have class. The ones that don't have the capability I would not call classless, but they certainly don't have what the first category has.

I agree. Which is why I am disappointed Marion didn't just put her hand out. She looks just as bad as Razzano now.

njtennis17
Jun 19th, 2009, 02:18 PM
Bartoli is such a joke, so tasteless and classless. It gets worse every time I see her. I don't care what's been said in the past, first off who cares its words, just shake hands. Ridiculous by Bartoli yet again, she acts likes she's 4 years old.

joão.
Jun 19th, 2009, 02:27 PM
She's just trying to become relevant. :rolleyes:

LoveMeansZero
Jun 19th, 2009, 02:30 PM
The classy thing to do would be: smile and shake Virginie's hand, look at her in the eyes and whisper to her: "You fucking bitch!" Now THAT would be class!

SAEKeithSerena
Jun 19th, 2009, 02:35 PM
razzano was right with her statements, bartoli is so dramatic and just...awkward on court.

bartoli is nothing but a straight up snot.

Beat
Jun 19th, 2009, 02:44 PM
Plus having to retire with an injury, Marion was probably alot more concerned with that then shaking Razzano's hand.


that's the silliest excuse i've ever heard.

Arina's_fan
Jun 19th, 2009, 02:57 PM
I always knew, that Bartoli is a bitch :) thanks to her for the proof :)

Marionated
Jun 19th, 2009, 03:00 PM
So let me put this in perspective. Virginie says unnecessary comments about Marion to the newspaper, Marion conducts her in , yes I agree, quite a classless way, though she had every right to be pissed off. As far as I'm concerned, they are both in the wrong here, so stop with all the Marion hate :rolleyes:

Alizé Molik
Jun 19th, 2009, 03:07 PM
don't worry im used to it, i cant have an opinion apperently because im a chakvetadze fan.

it might have something to do with you posting shit in every single thread that has anything remotely to do with marion, and usually bringing chakvetadze into it. :rolleyes:

Cat's Pajamas
Jun 19th, 2009, 03:08 PM
I honestly believe Bartoli has a few screws loose in her head. :o

Lighter
Jun 19th, 2009, 03:29 PM
As expected, Marion explains why she refused to shake Virginie's hand. She didn't appreciate what Virginie said about her in L'équpe today (paper version) : http://www.lequipe.fr/Tennis/breves2009/20090619_171217_bartoli-s-explique.html

She is also pessimistic concerning Wimbledon. Decision tomorrow.

DiscoStick
Jun 19th, 2009, 03:35 PM
:lol:

Inktrailer
Jun 19th, 2009, 03:43 PM
Pretty much sums it up, she's not happy about Razzano's comments yesterday, which is what it was about. Personally I still feel she should have shook hands but I understand why she didn't. Just hope she's okay for Wimbledon though it doesn't look good.

TTomek
Jun 19th, 2009, 03:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3tS5QlF6mc

what a short boooing :lol:

NoChokes
Jun 19th, 2009, 03:53 PM
Awesome stuff.

Love a bit of needle. :lol:

Ryan
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:00 PM
Bartoli. :o I hope she loses first round in Wimby.

jefrilibra
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3tS5QlF6mc

what a short boooing :lol:

That was really a disgrace. She didnt even look up to her.

I want her OUT of Wimby.

Libertango
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:02 PM
LOL @ the boo's.

And I agree; I think Marion's off her trolley. :cuckoo:

rockstar
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:03 PM
omg, that was really low and classless from marion :o

gosh, i wish this happened in rg. they'd boo her until she changed nationality to like moroccan or something


at least patty's version was upfront and loveable whereas marion just didnt have the balls to tell virginie to fuck off. :p

Dav.
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:16 PM
Is this really surprising? She's behaved like this on quite a few occassions; thus being the reason I'm not a fan. Her behavior towards fans is often just as bad.

It's sad to see because she often seems like a sweet girl in interviews.

iPatty
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:16 PM
There is something about Razzano that just irritates the hell out of me so I don't blame her.

Ryan
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:18 PM
There is something about Razzano that just irritates the hell out of me so I don't blame her.



:o So because a person irritates you for no solid, concrete reason, you would ignore them standing 2-feet away from you? Not. really. surprising. :lol: But that doesn't make it right, either - it's disgusting.

FrenchY52
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:18 PM
She was friendly with Emilie :hearts: But certainly not Razzano, Dechy (i think?) or Golovin. :tape: Dunno bout her and Amelie, they seem ok.

You're right about Dechy, and you forgot Rezai. Btw Rezai has never played Fed Cup but Marion still found a way to say bitchy and gratuitous comments about her and her father in 2007.
She almost has no fans in France and this sure isn't gonna help her.

*Jean*
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:21 PM
There is something about Razzano that just irritates the hell out of me so I don't blame her.

+1.
She's the kind of player who always seems to be cool and nice to the audience, but she's as bitchy as the others, and everyone in France reads 'L'Equipe' so everybody has certainly read the interview, and will now have an even worse view of Marion than they had before.
If I were Marion, I wouldn't have shaken Razzano's hands neither.

Marcelo.
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:22 PM
:o Just watched the video. That was bad, Marion :o

Virginie :hug: :hug:

KournikovaFan91
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:23 PM
What a bitch, it is like Schynder slapping Dani :mad:

Lighter
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:23 PM
You're right about Dechy, and you forgot Rezai. Btw Rezai has never played Fed Cup but Marion still found a way to say bitchy and gratuitous comments about her and her father in 2007.
She almost has no fans in France and this sure isn't gonna help her.Lies, lies, she said anything on Aravane and her father. She just criticized a journalist of "le Parisien" who wrote that Aravane was the favourite of the match. And during press conference after her win, she asked to the journalists if the famous journalist was there. And the crowd laugh.

Ellery
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:24 PM
Marion :silly:

homogenius
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:26 PM
To be fair, it seems Virginie did it on purpose to make Marion looks like an ass.A bit of a provocation to stay there, talk to her (when obviously she can't stand her)and try to shake hands while Marion was packing.

Dav.
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:27 PM
This is one of the reasons ( actually 2 of the reasons with her retirement ) i am not a fan of Marions. She seems to be a very disrespectful person . :sad:

Razzano is 100% right :lol::worship:
Basically sums up what else I was thinking.

The "injuries" and me vs. the world attitude are getting old. I noticed she used the "I'm more intelligent/she isn't capable of understanding" excuse again as well.

SVK
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:27 PM
Marion:o:o:o

Dav.
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:28 PM
To be fair, it seems Virginie did it on purpose to make Marion looks like an ass.A bit of a provocation to stay there, talk to her (when obviously she can't stand her)and try to shake hands while Marion was packing.

Is she supposed to not shake her hand, though?

Bijoux0021
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3tS5QlF6mc

what a short boooing :lol:
WOW! I know Bartoli must have been hurt by Razzano's comments, but after watching the video and saw how Bartoli rejected Razzano's hand shake, I feel bad for Razzano. No matter what Razzano had said, Bartoli really looked bad there.

Emina.
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:30 PM
:o

FrenchY52
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:33 PM
Lies, lies, she said anything on Aravane and her father. She just criticized a journalist of "le Parisien" who wrote that Aravane was the favourite of the match. And during press conference after her win, she asked to the journalists if the famous journalist was there. And the crowd laugh.

Ok YOU are the liar and you know it :) And the way she talks in French make her sound really conceited, that's probably why most people who can stand her are English-speaking people :lol:!

--

«J’avais plus l’impression de jouer contre une étrangère qu’une amie ou une compatriote», a-t-elle expliqué. «On ne peut pas nous comparer, ce n’est pas pareil. Mon père, ce n’est pas le père Rezaï.»

"I had more the feeling to play against a stranger (after the match against Rezai, 1R of the FO) than against a friend or a compatriot, she said. We can't be compared, it's not the same. My father isn't father Rezai."

and

«Je suis arrivée sur le court en me disant que c’est quand même moi qui ai gagné trois tournois et pas elle. Elle a fait une finale la semaine dernière, d’accord, mais depuis le début de la saison, on a ni les mêmes résultats ni le même palmarès», a poursuivi la Française de 22 ans.

"I came on the court today thinking that it was me who had won 3 tournaments, and not her. She played a final last week, ok, but since the beginning of the season we don't have the same results, and the same victories."

http://www.liberation.fr/sports/010118487-roland-garros-marion-bartoli-sort-aravane-rezai-et-se-fache

She always has to whine about someone or something.

homogenius
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:34 PM
Is she supposed to not shake her hand, though?

Marion should have shaken hands at the net before sitting but after that Virginie just provoked her in a childish way.She didn't went to talk to her cause of good sportsmanship but just to annoy her and seeing as Marion retired cause of injury it wasn't a classy move.The hypocrisy was too much to take for her it seems.

That being said, Marion wouldn't have so many "ennemies" if she and her father acted differently.

iPatty
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:37 PM
:o So because a person irritates you for no solid, concrete reason, you would ignore them standing 2-feet away from you? Not. really. surprising. :lol: But that doesn't make it right, either - it's disgusting.

Of course it doesn't make it right but I am assuming there is a lot more to their relationship than we tennis fans sitting here typing know about. You don't not shake someone's hand for no good reason.

Bijoux0021
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:40 PM
Marion should have shaken hands at the net before sitting but after that Virginie just provoked her in a childish way.She didn't went to talk to her cause of good sportsmanship but just to annoy her and seeing as Marion retired cause of injury it wasn't a classy move.The hypocrisy was too much to take for her it seems.

That being said, Marion wouldn't have so many "ennemies" if she and her father acted differently.
I like Marion and don't care much for Virginie. Do you really believe this?

Ferg
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:40 PM
:o So because a person irritates you for no solid, concrete reason, you would ignore them standing 2-feet away from you? Not. really. surprising. :lol: But that doesn't make it right, either - it's disgusting.

I'd sure as hell ignore someone for saying bad stuff about me to the press.

simonsaystennis
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:42 PM
I'm a fan of Marion. I thought that was really rude though. :o I lost a bit of respect for her there. Razzano didn't do anything that warranted that response.

Lighter
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:42 PM
Ok YOU are the liar and you know it :) And the way she talks in French make her sound really conceited, that's probably why most people who can stand her are English-speaking people :lol:!

«J’avais plus l’impression de jouer contre une étrangère qu’une amie ou une compatriote», a-t-elle expliqué. «On ne peut pas nous comparer, ce n’est pas pareil. Mon père, ce n’est pas le père Rezaï.»

"I had more the feeling to play against a stranger (after the match against Rezai, 1R of the FO) than against a friend or a compatriot, she said. We can't be compared, it's not the same. My father isn't father Rezai."

and

«Je suis arrivée sur le court en me disant que c’est quand même moi qui ai gagné trois tournois et pas elle. Elle a fait une finale la semaine dernière, d’accord, mais depuis le début de la saison, on a ni les mêmes résultats ni le même palmarès», a poursuivi la Française de 22 ans.

"I came on the court today thinking that it was me who had won 3 tournaments, and not her. She played a final last week, ok, but since the beginning of the season we don't have the same results, and the same victories."

http://www.liberation.fr/sports/010118487-roland-garros-marion-bartoli-sort-aravane-rezai-et-se-fache

She always has to whine about someone or something.I know that you are a former Marion's fan, maybe the first on this forum. So you know well the story. Aravane was born in Saint Etienne, not very far from Le Puy en velay. That's why journalists wrote about an hypothetic stimulation between them. And Marion answered that no comparison was possible between them, except that they were coached by their fathers and were born in the same location. There is nothing else.

danieln1
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:44 PM
This time I agree with Marion... razzano was just trying to provoke her, saying those things and trying to shake her hand disgusting bitch i never liked this girl...

Iceland
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:45 PM
Marion shouldn't have acted the way she did but overall I just have the impression that Razzano is bigheaded. The way she reacted today and told the press yesterday was very pretentious.

Ferg
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:46 PM
Razzano didn't do anything that warranted that response.

Virginie insulted Marion in L'Equipe before the match.

homogenius
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:47 PM
I like Marion and don't care much for Virginie. Do you really believe this?

Yes.She knew Marion wouldn't shake hands.Her reaction to the crowd after that (the smile and gesture to say "look, I tried to be kind and the girl won't even shake hands")just show that she did it on purpose.Should have taken her win and move on.

jefrilibra
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:49 PM
Can someone just describe in a gist what Razzano said in that interview? Thnx.

Serenita
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:49 PM
i really dont see the problem, these 2 are bitching about each other for some time now.
you just cant insult someone and expect that person to shake your hand.

FrenchY52
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:50 PM
Can someone just describe in a gist what Razzano said in that interview? Thnx.

http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?p=15903572#post15903572

Ferg
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:51 PM
Can someone just describe in a gist what Razzano said in that interview? Thnx.

Here are some quotes "You get the impression that on court it's okay by her to use any means to win: calling on the trainer, crying, limping."

After the Radwanska match, on court, she also said she'll be careful of her match with Marion because "she'll try anything to win."

DiscoStick
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:52 PM
What a bitch, it is like Schynder slapping Dani :mad:

When did that happen? :confused:

Ferg
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:53 PM
i really dont see the problem, these 2 are bitching about each other for some time now.
you just cant insult someone and expect that person to shake your hand.

People love an excuse to rip on Marion. :o

Dave.
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:56 PM
Yes.She knew Marion wouldn't shake hands.Her reaction to the crowd after that (the smile and gesture to say "look, I tried to be kind and the girl won't even shake hands")just show that she did it on purpose.Should have taken her win and move on.

I agree. The look from Razzano says it all. It's as if she went over there to shake Marion's hand just to rub it in. I can talk bad about you in an interview, I'm through to the final, you're injured and you still have to shake my hand. Well thankfully Marion didn't give her that last one. :yeah:

Lighter
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:58 PM
When did that happen? :confused:Linz '2007 with Rainer kicking Daniela's water bottle.

A must : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDIhjLk1Kj4

Bijoux0021
Jun 19th, 2009, 05:00 PM
Yes.She knew Marion wouldn't shake hands.Her reaction to the crowd after that (the smile and gesture to say "look, I tried to be kind and the girl won't even shake hands")just show that she did it on purpose.Should have taken her win and move on.
I don't think Virginie made a conscious decision, seconds after Marion retirement, to go shake Marion's hand just so she could provoke and annoy her. I now know there's been bad blood between the two, but players do shake hands after retirements. Virginie was just trying to do what was expected.

дalex
Jun 19th, 2009, 05:01 PM
OK, after reading the background of this incident, I don't mind what Marion did anymore. Sure she looked kinda rude to all those there on the stands and people watching the match on TV...But the truth is Virginie was rude to her too with what she said about Marion.

So, there you go - they don't like each other and Marion made it clear by refusing to shake her hand... unlike Virginie who disguises her dislike with fake smiles, giggles, shrugs and whatnot. :D

homogenius
Jun 19th, 2009, 05:04 PM
I don't think Virginie made a conscious decision, seconds after Marion retirement, to go shake Marion's hand just so she could provoke and annoy her. I now know there's been bad blood between the two, but players do shake hands after retirements. Virginie was just trying to do what was expected.

She knew perfectly was she was doing.You're underestimating the bitchiness and sense of irony of French girls :angel:

iPatty
Jun 19th, 2009, 05:04 PM
Linz '2007 with Rainer kicking Daniela's water bottle.

A must : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDIhjLk1Kj4

I don't mind the handshake but I had to cut the video before they showed her husband. That just infuriates me.

The only reason this thread has steam are French fans of Golovin, Rezai, and Razzano who are bitter that Bartoli has been the one to come out on top. Their dislike for her is really amazing.

Ferg
Jun 19th, 2009, 05:05 PM
OK, after reading the background of this incident, I don't mind what Marion did anymore. Sure she looked kinda rude to all those there on the stands and people watching the match on TV...But the truth is Virginie was rude to her too with what she said about Marion.

So, there you go - they don't like each other and Marion made it clear by refusing to shake her hand... unlike Virginie who disguises her dislike with fake smiles, giggles, shrugs and whatnot. :D

Yeah, my first reaction was disgust at Marion but now im proud of her for standing up to Razzano after hearing about Razzano's mind games. What makes me mad is she won the match. I hope Marion is fit and healthy for Wimby and they meet in the fourth round. :angel::devil:

hablo
Jun 19th, 2009, 05:13 PM
La vaincue du jour n'a en fait pas apprécié les propos de Razzano dans L'Equipe parue ce vendredi. Razzano y avait déclaré : «Marion est une super joueuse, elle est intelligente, je la respecte en tant que personne mais sur le court on a l'impression que tous les moyens sont bons chez elle pour gagner : appeler le soigneur, pleurer, boîter... Je ne la regarderai pas si elle prend plein de temps entre les points à faire ses mélis-mélos. Il n'y aura aucun respect et aucune pitié des deux côtés, ça ne veut pas dire que je ne l'aime pas. Simplement je ne veux pas me laisser déstabiliser sur le court.» Des déclarations qui ont sérieusement irrité Bartoli, qui a déclaré «Dire cela dans ce quotidien français ce n'est vraiment pas brillant mais je pense que c'est sa manière de se comporter.»

Now I see why Marion didn't shake Virginie's hand: she shouldn't have said this to the media. :tape:

Lighter
Jun 19th, 2009, 05:18 PM
I don't mind the handshake but I had to cut the video before they showed her husband. That just infuriates me.

The only reason this thread has steam are French fans of Golovin, Rezai, and Razzano who are bitter that Bartoli has been the one to come out on top. Their dislike for her is really amazing.And when you know that some of them were Marion's fan, it's really funny.

Serenita
Jun 19th, 2009, 05:20 PM
Now I see why Marion didn't shake Virginie's hand: she shouldn't have said this to the media. :tape:
translate please

DiscoStick
Jun 19th, 2009, 05:21 PM
Linz '2007 with Rainer kicking Daniela's water bottle.

A must : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDIhjLk1Kj4

:fiery: OMG that bottle kick just did it

Well, at least Schnyder was nice in Linz a month later

homogenius
Jun 19th, 2009, 05:26 PM
translate please

Basically she said : "Marion is a great player, she's smart and I respect her a s aperson but on court she would do anything to win : calling the trainer, crying, limping...I'll try not to give attenttion if she takes too much time with her antics between points.There'll be no respect and no mercy from both sides, but it doesn't mean I don't like her.It's just that I don't want to let her makes me lose focus on court".

InsideOut.
Jun 19th, 2009, 05:26 PM
Linz '2007 with Rainer kicking Daniela's water bottle.

A must : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDIhjLk1Kj4

:tape:

Kim's_fan_4ever
Jun 19th, 2009, 05:27 PM
So now I understand why Marion didn't shake Razzano's hand :o So rude of Virginie to talk this way :o

PersephoneDisco
Jun 19th, 2009, 05:27 PM
http://www.tennis.com/news/news.aspx?id=177952

Razzano will play sixth-seeded Caroline Wozniacki of Denmark, who defeated Aleksandra Wozniak of Canada 3-6, 6-4, 6-4.

Bartoli refused to shake hands with Razzano after pulling out of the all-French semifinal with a right quadriceps strain. Razzano had complained in a French newspaper that Bartoli often made a fuss over minor injuries to gain a mental advantage over opponents.

“What she said about me in the newspaper was not really brilliant, but I get that’s the way she is,” Bartoli said. “I could never say that about another player.”

Razzano had no regrets about her comments.

“She can stop any time in any match,” Razzano said. “If you stop to look at her because she has pain everywhere, she tries to make your concentration go down and you can’t play because you are thinking what has happened.

“It’s a disappointment for her but not for me because I am in the final. It’s a good win for me because I have more energy for tomorrow.”

Bijoux0021
Jun 19th, 2009, 05:28 PM
Here are some quotes "You get the impression that on court it's okay by her to use any means to win: calling on the trainer, crying, limping."

After the Radwanska match, on court, she also said she'll be careful of her match with Marion because "she'll try anything to win."
This reminds me of Andy Roddick calling out Novak Djokovic last year at the USO regarding similar antics, and Djokovic didn't like it one bit. They both had exchanged some heated words, but I believe afterwards they agreed to let it go. I doubt any forgiveness is going to happen with Marion and Virginie anytime soon.

Ferg
Jun 19th, 2009, 05:28 PM
Basically she said : "Marion is a great player, she's smart and I respect her a s aperson but on court she would do anything to win : calling the trainer, crying, limping...I'll try not to give attenttion if she takes too much time with her antics between points.There'll be no respect and no mercy from both sides, but it doesn't mean I don't like her.It's just that I don't want to let her makes me lose focus on court".

:tape:


This reminds me of Andy Roddick calling out Novak Djokovic last year at the USO regarding similar antics, and Djokovic didn't like it one bit. They both had exchanged some heated words, but I believe afterwards they agreed to let it go. I doubt any forgiveness is going to happen with Marion and Virginie anytime soon.


Yeah, i dont think we can expect any 'sorrys' from the 2 girls in the future, the WTA isnt as chummy as the ATP. :devil:

iPatty
Jun 19th, 2009, 05:29 PM
:fiery: OMG that bottle kick just did it

Well, at least Schnyder was nice in Linz a month later

Their handshake in Linz was very warm, even apologetic from Patty for the way Rainer acted in Luxembourg. You can see in the video she is trying to pull him away. I think she is given too much crap for that incident when, for much of it, she was trying to get Rainer to stop.

Volcana
Jun 19th, 2009, 05:51 PM
Tennis is the only individual sport where, at the end, you get to denigrate an opponent's win by saying you don't respect them. The handshake is virtually part of the soprt. And if your opponent won't shake your hand, it's almost like saying you didn't win.

MMA is like thatm but it isn't a codified, probably to the good. In tennis, if you won't shake the opponent's hand, it's like saying they cheated.

Inside Photos
Jun 19th, 2009, 06:23 PM
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5139/bartraz.jpg

Noctis
Jun 19th, 2009, 06:31 PM
I Wouldnt shake her hand either after her evil interview :tape:
'Marion well do anything to win'
'Shes a special girl'
'she laughed all the way'

VeeReeDavJCap81
Jun 19th, 2009, 06:45 PM
:lol: cattiness

Beat
Jun 19th, 2009, 06:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3tS5QlF6mc


i feel honestly embarrased.

even if she thought that what virginie had said about her was nasty, why didn't she confront her before or after the match? doing such childish stuff on court is really beyond pathetic. she's not 17 anymore.

Londoner
Jun 19th, 2009, 06:58 PM
I've just watched this now on You Tube, and I've changed my opinion!

I think Bartoli is a disgrace and like Beat I am totally embarassed for her. It is extremely rare for the Eastbourne crowd to show much emotion, but Bartoli really deserved the boos - and more.

Virgine was unbelievably polite and dignified. She stood by Marion's chair for quite a long time. However, Virgine has the last laugh - she won the match and is in the final.

I will never cheer or support Bartoli again. There is no excuse for her behaviour. And Virgine has a new found fan in me! For what it's worth!

While we're on bitchiness, I have to say that Bartoli's father looks a complete loony in the clip on You Tube I saw!

Londoner
Jun 19th, 2009, 07:01 PM
I Wouldnt shake her hand either after her evil interview :tape:
'Marion well do anything to win'
'Shes a special girl'
'she laughed all the way'

Well, Serena shook Justine's hand at Roland Garros after the 'hand' incident - while she was being booed! There is a direct link on You Tube from the Bartoli/Razzano clip to the Serena/Justine clip. I hadn't seen it for ages and it made me realise just how bad the crowd and Justine behaved that day yet, unlike Bartoli, Serena remained dignified to the end.

Weemee
Jun 19th, 2009, 07:05 PM
Ha! I love how Razzano has called Bartoli out on her gamesmanship, bout time!!

I was at the match today, and Bartoli was bang out of order...

Near the end of the set she was stretched and outplayed on a point and briefly stretched her quad. After the game she then put a few pieces of tape on her leg and played on, her movement unhindered. Razzano won the set and the trainer was called on and the thigh was taped. Then the limping began...Bartoli went from running about the court fine a few minutes previously to suddenly being unable to move....

Hmmmmmm...

Razzano won the game and sat in her seat, Marion did not signal to Virginie that the game was over and moved to her seat. It wasn't until the umpire called the retirement that Virginie knew she'd quit, hence why she had to go round the side of the chair to offer her hand.

It wasn't a case of Razzano trying to make Bartoli look bad, or milk the crowd...Bartoli was classless, and was rightly booed, regardless of what Razzano said in the press, she only said what everyone else knows/thinks.

It's about time Marion a) got fit enough to play without the drama/'injuries' b) stopped using gamesmanship and Daddy to win matches!

Allez Virginie...all the way!

Juanes
Jun 19th, 2009, 07:06 PM
Bartoli declined pretty low for me..... it was maximally unsportly... :o

she should go to someone who will teach her how to behave on court.... :rolleyes:

KournikovaFan91
Jun 19th, 2009, 07:08 PM
I love Virginie now :):) :)

AndreConrad
Jun 19th, 2009, 07:10 PM
I've just watched this now on You Tube, and I've changed my opinion!

I think Bartoli is a disgrace and like Beat I am totally embarassed for her. It is extremely rare for the Eastbourne crowd to show much emotion, but Bartoli really deserved the boos - and more.

Virgine was unbelievably polite and dignified. She stood by Marion's chair for quite a long time. However, Virgine has the last laugh - she won the match and is in the final.

I will never cheer or support Bartoli again. There is no excuse for her behaviour. And Virgine has a new found fan in me! For what it's worth!

While we're on bitchiness, I have to say that Bartoli's father looks a complete loony in the clip on You Tube I saw!
As much as I agree that the behavior lacks class and perhaps is even embarassing, there is still more than excuse, there is an explanation. Marion is simply upset and has hard time dealing with her emotions. A discussion if her emotions are justified or not is pointless; we don't know the entire story and what is more important it is an emotion so it doesn't have to be rational. So she could behave better, but she deserves some slack as well, especially from her fans and/or compatriots.

SVK
Jun 19th, 2009, 07:12 PM
I Wouldnt shake her hand either after her evil interview :tape:
'Marion well do anything to win'
'Shes a special girl'
'she laughed all the way'

Are you sure she said this?:scratch:
I heard "Marion can try everything for win":lol:
Virginie´s English isn´t excellent:lol:

Marionated
Jun 19th, 2009, 07:18 PM
Wow all she did was decline a handshake, it's not like she verbally insulted Virginie :rolleyes: Many of the french girl have slated Marion, who then defends herself, but she is the bitch :weirdo: Btw, we all know who the french number 1 is, and she will continue to be so for a long time :wavey:

disco_rage
Jun 19th, 2009, 07:20 PM
i love Marion even more for this.........
some people on here are so funny with their holier than thou attitude
Marion is not a fake person, so if she don't like someone, she aint bothered about showing it. Haha me either.
How many people on here would really shake someone's hand after they have been talking shite about them??? hmmm

Apoleb
Jun 19th, 2009, 07:21 PM
LOL. I don't think what Bartoli did is automatically wrong. I'm not really a fan of protocol for the sake of protocol. She might have her reasons for losing all respect to Razzano, and view what the latter said about her, she's not really that far off.

starin
Jun 19th, 2009, 07:31 PM
:inlove: That was so catty of Barotli. I loved it. Her and Patty need to start a feud.

ptitnavet
Jun 19th, 2009, 07:32 PM
Bartol is a really good player but god she can't have good relationship with someone :confused:
Everybody says Razzano is a nice girl :shrug:

Serenita
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:10 PM
http://www.tennis.com/news/news.aspx?id=177952

Razzano will play sixth-seeded Caroline Wozniacki of Denmark, who defeated Aleksandra Wozniak of Canada 3-6, 6-4, 6-4.

Bartoli refused to shake hands with Razzano after pulling out of the all-French semifinal with a right quadriceps strain. Razzano had complained in a French newspaper that Bartoli often made a fuss over minor injuries to gain a mental advantage over opponents.

“What she said about me in the newspaper was not really brilliant, but I get that’s the way she is,” Bartoli said. “I could never say that about another player.”

Razzano had no regrets about her comments.

“She can stop any time in any match,” Razzano said. “If you stop to look at her because she has pain everywhere, she tries to make your concentration go down and you can’t play because you are thinking what has happened.

“It’s a disappointment for her but not for me because I am in the final. It’s a good win for me because I have more energy for tomorrow.”
:lol:
miauuuuw
Razzano started with the bitching.

Bayo
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:13 PM
As has been made clear on numerous occasions, emotionally, Marion is much younger than her actual age. I assume it's another one of those too-close-to-the-parent classic tennis cases. I wouldn't/won't hold this against her.

Serenita
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:13 PM
Bartol is a really good player but god she can't have good relationship with someone :confused:
Everybody says Razzano is a nice girl :shrug:
By NOT being nice Bartoli reach a slam final. girls dont need to be nice, they need to compete.
being nice is overrated.

FORZA SARITA
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:15 PM
Virginie being a bitch :drool::bigclap:

KournikovaFan91
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:18 PM
By NOT being nice Bartoli reach a slam final. girls dont need to be nice, they need to compete.
being nice is overrated.


Cause that Grand Slam final will chat and be there for her when she retires :rolleyes:

Beat
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:18 PM
being nice is overrated.

no, it's not.
anyway this is not about being nice, it's about being a professional athlete.

kman
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:21 PM
http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww272/gingerpuss/sportsmanship.jpg

Matt01
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:24 PM
Wow all she did was decline a handshake, it's not like she verbally insulted Virginie :rolleyes: Many of the french girl have slated Marion, who then defends herself, but she is the bitch :weirdo: Btw, we all know who the french number 1 is, and she will continue to be so for a long time :wavey:


OMG :weirdo: Not shaking your oponents hand is basically an insult.

Adal
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:29 PM
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5/digital_talent/marion3.gif

Noctis
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:30 PM
http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww272/gingerpuss/sportsmanship.jpg

it works better if its a cake in the face splash haha
Mariona :ras: and licks

Serenita
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:31 PM
Cause that Grand Slam final will chat and be there for her when she retires :rolleyes:
ooh please she has her own friends, and she doesnt need a friend who talks crap and shit about her.

Serenita
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:32 PM
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5/digital_talent/marion3.gif
shake hands with the towell biatch...:haha:

KoOlMaNsEaN
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:33 PM
shaking hands is the least marion could have done. show some class, oh sorry you don't have any

Serenita
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:34 PM
it looks like an invisible barrier :haha:

Leo_DFP
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:35 PM
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5/digital_talent/marion3.gif

:lol: I can't stop watching. How awkward for Virginie!

Noctis
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:37 PM
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5/digital_talent/marion3.gif


'Dont touch me'
I Was getting the towel.
Dont touch the towel
Ok

tenn_ace
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:38 PM
Marion - well done! I wouldn't have shaken hand with the snake either.

Sander.
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:38 PM
Marion bitch :speakles:

Virginie, you deserved this win :fiery:

Serenita
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:40 PM
talk to the towell!!!

gopher
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:40 PM
ah la cobaye corse; corsicans are not the nicest people around ...

Ferg
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:41 PM
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5/digital_talent/marion3.gif
shake hands with the towell biatch...:haha:

:spit:

Virginie: Handshake Marion?
Marion: Wut? Someone there? Oh you.
Virginie: Handshake?
Marion: No but you can have the towel.
Virginie reaches for it
Marion: PYSCH

gopher
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:44 PM
still shocked that that woman with the most ugly serve on the tour kept us from what would have been a legendary Venus-Henin final.

Serenita
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:48 PM
:spit:

Virginie: Handshake Marion?
Marion: Wut? Someone there? Oh you.
Virginie: Handshake?
Marion: No but you can have the towel.
Virginie reaches for it
Marion: PYSCH
:lol::lol:

Serenita
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:48 PM
still shocked that that woman with the most ugly serve on the tour kept us from what would have been a legendary Venus-Henin final.
what?? that girl played her heart out and won that match.. so dont start shit.

Dave.
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:50 PM
still shocked that that woman with the most ugly serve on the tour kept us from what would have been a legendary Venus-Henin final.

Justine's serve wasn't exactly a thing of beauty either. :o

Ferg
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:54 PM
Can someone give me the url of that thing PLEASE? :haha: I have to send it to somebody

gopher
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:56 PM
Justine's serve wasn't exactly a thing of beauty either. :oMaybe but if we peek at the rest of the game of these two ladies, it is like comparing a paradise bird to a swine

Serenita
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:58 PM
Maybe but if we peek at the rest of the game of these two ladies, it is like comparing a paradise bird to a swine
is that it?
calling someone a swine because she won a match? pathetic.

Ferg
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:58 PM
Maybe but if we peek at the rest of the game of these two ladies, it is like comparing a paradise bird to a swine

Jesus christ will bitter Juju fans ever get over that goddamn match?!?!? It was 2 years ago!! :cuckoo:

Shows how obsessed they are with her and a Wimbledon title.

Horizon
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:59 PM
Marion :inlove:

Didn't know she was this much of a diva :hearts:

sugimomo
Jun 19th, 2009, 09:01 PM
virginie is exactly right in what she said about bartoli, marions sportsmanship is about as good as justine henin was :lol: :lol: :lol: virginie to win!!!!!!

Steff_forever
Jun 19th, 2009, 09:03 PM
Tennis is the only individual sport where, at the end, you get to denigrate an opponent's win by saying you don't respect them. The handshake is virtually part of the soprt. And if your opponent won't shake your hand, it's almost like saying you didn't win.

MMA is like thatm but it isn't a codified, probably to the good. In tennis, if you won't shake the opponent's hand, it's like saying they cheated.
:hatoff:

Jakeev
Jun 19th, 2009, 09:14 PM
I'm still not getting what all the fuss is about. Sounds very childish to me compared to most spats.

Ferg
Jun 19th, 2009, 09:16 PM
I'm still not getting what all the fuss is about. Sounds very childish to me compared to most spats.

There are a lot of Marion haters here, thus most jump at the chance to bash her.

Equipped
Jun 19th, 2009, 09:35 PM
Marion's not doing herself any favours trying to get on the FedCup team. :tape:

Zébulon
Jun 19th, 2009, 09:52 PM
If you'd read Razzano's words to l'Equipe, you'd have no doubt about how much the fed cup girls want her on the team. :lol: I guess Bartoli should have shaken hands in spite of her thoughts. Maybe Razzano shouldn't have tried to shake her hands at all, rather than fake friendliness.No big deal anyway. :shrug:

Libertango
Jun 19th, 2009, 09:55 PM
^She wasn't faking friendliness; she was merely following good sportmanship and etiquette.

Slammer7
Jun 19th, 2009, 09:57 PM
Marion's not doing herself any favours trying to get on the FedCup team. :tape:

You know this stuff is nothing new when it comes to the French women. I remember in 2000 Natalie Tauziat(a real fan and player favorite :rolleyes: :p :lol:) wrote a book in which she criticized the French Federation and other French players as well as calling people drugged cheats, bitched about homosexuality on the tour and everything else that will make you soooo many "friends" in the locker room.:rolleyes: :devil: The other French players (Mauresmo, Pierce, Halard-Decugis) said they wouldn't play the Olympics if Tauziat were on the team. Obviously because they despised her(something not exclusive to just them mind you) and the French Federation left her off the team. Now the France didn't do that well in the Olympics, Mary couldn't play, injured(for most of the next 2 years mind you :sad:) Mauresmo-choked (what else was new) Halard-Decugis- not good enough and about to retire. Tauziat, who was France's best healthy player could have done better than all of them, but she was left out for the sake of "team unity" This is nothing new and obviously the internecine hate between French women continues. Bitchieness the next generation. :lol: :haha: :rolls: :devil:

Libertango
Jun 19th, 2009, 10:00 PM
LOL Tauziat was hilarious/a bitch. I wish I could read french, just to read her book.

dybbuk
Jun 19th, 2009, 10:05 PM
LOL. It's not like the majority of French players don't gang up on Marion in interviews. Marion doesn't owe them handshakes. If there's any problem it's her retirement, not refusing to shake Razzano's hand.

frenchie
Jun 19th, 2009, 10:13 PM
You know this stuff is nothing new when it comes to the French women. I remember in 2000 Natalie Tauziat(a real fan and player favorite :rolleyes: :p :lol:) wrote a book in which she criticized the French Federation and other French players as well as calling people drugged cheats, bitched about homosexuality on the tour and everything else that will make you soooo many "friends" in the locker room.:rolleyes: :devil: The other French players (Mauresmo, Pierce, Halard-Decugis) said they wouldn't play the Olympics if Tauziat were on the team. Obviously because they despised her(something not exclusive to just them mind you) and the French Federation left her off the team. Now the France didn't do that well in the Olympics, Mary couldn't play, injured(for most of the next 2 years mind you :sad:) Mauresmo-choked (what else was new) Halard-Decugis- not good enough and about to retire. Tauziat, who was France's best healthy player could have done better than all of them, but she was left out for the sake of "team unity" This is nothing new and obviously the internecine hate between French women continues. Bitchieness the next generation. :lol: :haha: :rolls: :devil:

I have that book and it's still:drool:to read it!

Tauziat basically bitches on everybody except Davenport : Pierce, Mauresmo, Williams sisters, Kournikova, Seles, Dokic, Lucic, Stevenson, Capriati,.....:tape::help:

wtatourfan
Jun 19th, 2009, 10:31 PM
I actuallty like Marion, but such a ridiculous atitude from her.

Classless!

tobi
Jun 19th, 2009, 10:45 PM
some quotes:

Razzano had earlier accused Bartoli of underhand tactics, saying in French newspaper L’Equipe: “You get the impression that on court it’s okay by her to use any means to win: calling on the trainer, crying, limping.”

Bartoli told reporters on Friday: “To say what she said yesterday in the French newspaper, that is not really brilliant. I guess that is just the way she is.”

Razzano warmed to the theme again in her own post-match news conference, saying of Bartoli: “She tries to do things to make your concentration drop. She can try anything to win. When you play Marion you need to prepare for everything.”
Everybody know these facts for long enough and someone as a player had to talk about them.

Thanx Virginie! :hearts:

terjw
Jun 19th, 2009, 10:54 PM
Marion taking lessons from Chaky what to do at the end of a match. :tape:

Actually I've never heard anyone boo at Eastbourne before in previous years. And both times this week have been for not shaking hands. Chaky had a lot of support and sympathy on Wednesday against Marion. Which completely disappeared when she refused to shake hands at the end of the match. It transformed her into a sore loser. And she collected a boo or two and a shout of "Shake her hand".

As to Razzzano's post match interview yesterday. Whether you agree with her or think it was classless or what - let's get one thing straight. What she said she was fully aware of what she was saying. It took me by surprise when she said it. It wasn't something we've misinterpreted in the translation

ChriS.
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:25 PM
After what Razzano said I think she probably should have just asked how Marion was and not bothered about shaking her hand. I am not sure I would shake hands without someone who had just recently called me a cheat.

Martian KC
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:36 PM
Marion being a bitch<3333

Rafito.
Jun 20th, 2009, 12:50 AM
Bartoli is a rude little bitch and i hate her.

Renalicious
Jun 20th, 2009, 01:57 AM
Is there any video?

Renalicious
Jun 20th, 2009, 01:57 AM
Saw it. Lol wtf that is the weirdest thing ever. Marion was so cold.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3tS5QlF6mc

Roookie
Jun 20th, 2009, 03:23 AM
mmmm...sure Marion looked like a classless bitch, but frankly i'm not sure i'd acted different if someone said the same things about me.

treufreund
Jun 20th, 2009, 03:43 AM
Bartoli hates ITALIANS and Razzano has some Italian blood in her. So that is the real reason LOL. ;)