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Anna Orlik
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:00 AM
The Fact That We Have Althea Gibson, The Williams Sisters, Zina Garrison Jackson And Lori Mcneill Reaching The Final Here(and Win Some Of Course) Is So Amazing.

And It Seem That Some Random Girl Like Mashona Washington, Alexandra Stevenson, Shenay Perry, Angela Haynes Seem To Play On This Surface Is Better.

This Thread Isn't About A Racist Joke. I Admire Them And Want To Know The Exact Reason Why They Are So Good In Wimbledon.

InsideOut.
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:06 AM
Because of the overuse of the shift button.

Keadz
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:11 AM
Americans in general are good on the surface.

Mynarco
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:17 AM
Because of the overuse of the shift button.

damn :lol: :haha:

jimbo mack
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:19 AM
their games suit grass (fast serve, powerful groundstrokes and good volleys and slices) unlike other category of players, such as a typical spanish player who's strengths bode better on clay than on grass

tennnisfannn
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:44 AM
You could ask what the europeans are great on clay and get the same response.

timafi
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:50 AM
please don't turn talent into a race issue:rolleyes:

jimbo mack
Jun 19th, 2009, 11:52 AM
add chanda rubin to this list

MrSerenaWilliams
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:10 PM
Because black people smoke so much grass :shrug::unsure:

gentenaire
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:42 PM
I don't think it's got anything to do with race, but more with height. Taller players always do better on grass.

BuTtErFrEnA
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:49 PM
it has nothing to do with race...americans on a whole are good on grass mainly because they like fast courts...blake is the exception :shrug:

miffedmax
Jun 19th, 2009, 12:51 PM
I think the poster who implied it's the "American" part got it right. Americans in general have done well at Wimby, because we grow up on fast courts (grass in the old days, hard in modern days) and develop the big serves and hard strokes that work well on the surface. Throw in some talent and a lifetime of hard work and voila! "Natural" grass court ability.

Hazel
Jun 19th, 2009, 02:01 PM
their games suit grass (fast serve, powerful groundstrokes and good volleys and slices) unlike other category of players, such as a typical spanish player who's strengths bode better on clay than on grass

I was in 2 minds whether or not to respond, but I have to!

Clay success for the Spanish has nothing to do with being Spanish per se. It's because they grow up on clay courts! Anyway, Martinez, Sanchez Vicario and others did pretty well at Wimbledon!

When you say 'their game' it's as if because they are African Americans they have fast serves etc. It may just have been how you worded it but it had a bit of a funny ring to it for me! It's because Americans grow up on fast courts. Like Lindsay Davenport - who is as white as I am!

The entire 'theory' just doesn't withstand any examination!

nashi
Jun 19th, 2009, 02:21 PM
They hava power

Dawn Marie
Jun 19th, 2009, 02:33 PM
Americans are better on grass it has nothing to do with black players. U can take many white players and make the same thread.

kiwifan
Jun 19th, 2009, 02:48 PM
Case Closed, African Americans Play Well On Grass Because They're Americans And Americans Play Well On Grass.

Next Topic...:angel:

HRHoliviasmith
Jun 19th, 2009, 02:50 PM
Because of the overuse of the shift button.

:rolls:

dreamgoddess099
Jun 19th, 2009, 09:00 PM
Because black people smoke so much grass :shrug::unsure:

You dead ass wrong. :lol:

They hava power

Lol at hava.

sweetpeas
Jun 19th, 2009, 09:07 PM
Because black people smoke so much grass

HA HA...good one!:wavey::lol::lol:

Kenny
Jun 19th, 2009, 10:18 PM
The simple answer is that most Americans do well on grass. We (Americans) value hitting hard and fast and agression, as well as athleticism. All of those things translate to W-s (wins) at Wimbledon.

LeonHart
Jun 19th, 2009, 10:36 PM
This thread is dumb as hell.

Ellen Dawson
Jun 20th, 2009, 12:14 PM
The Fact That We Have Althea Gibson, The Williams Sisters, Zina Garrison Jackson And Lori Mcneill Reaching The Final Here(and Win Some Of Course) Is So Amazing.

And It Seem That Some Random Girl Like Mashona Washington, Alexandra Stevenson, Shenay Perry, Angela Haynes Seem To Play On This Surface Is Better.

This Thread Isn't About A Racist Joke. I Admire Them And Want To Know The Exact Reason Why They Are So Good In Wimbledon.

If there were 100 black players in the history of the WTA, you would not feel that way. It's easy to say that they do well at Wimbledon if there are only a handful to choose from.

*Jool*
Jun 20th, 2009, 12:21 PM
:secret: BTW, as much as I would have loved to see her in a Wimbledon final (but just not 94 :angel: ) , Lori McNeil failed to reach one . Best result is SF to Martinez ;)

rod99
Jun 21st, 2009, 12:31 AM
grass rewards players who have a lot of natural athleticism. graf and navratilova were amazing athletes. in general, blacks are born with natural athleticism (look at professional basketball and US football) and are able to use that on grass.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Jun 21st, 2009, 12:33 AM
Donna Young will win Wimbledon

DOUBLEFIST
Jun 21st, 2009, 12:37 AM
Style of play.

nearly all the girls you mentioned, more important than all being black, all play pretty aggressively.

Grass rewards aggression.

V's a star
Jun 21st, 2009, 12:49 AM
grass rewards players who have a lot of natural athleticism. graf and navratilova were amazing athletes. in general, blacks are born with natural athleticism (look at professional basketball and US football) and are able to use that on grass.

:yeah:

PizzaMan
Jun 21st, 2009, 01:36 AM
grass rewards players who have a lot of natural athleticism. graf and navratilova were amazing athletes. in general, blacks are born with natural athleticism (look at professional basketball and US football) and are able to use that on grass.

Like Mary Carillo says, "Athletes win Wimbledon". (When I heard her say that, she was talking about both Venus and Masha, commenting on one of their Wimby matches in either 2005 or 2007 (I think the latter).)

sunsfuns
Jun 21st, 2009, 01:44 AM
Isn't it fair to say that all top Americans like grass? Sampras, Roddick, Venus, Serena, Lindsay even Agassi...

RVD
Jun 21st, 2009, 02:00 AM
The Fact That We Have Althea Gibson, The Williams Sisters, Zina Garrison Jackson And Lori Mcneill Reaching The Final Here(and Win Some Of Course) Is So Amazing.

And It Seem That Some Random Girl Like Mashona Washington, Alexandra Stevenson, Shenay Perry, Angela Haynes Seem To Play On This Surface Is Better.

This Thread Isn't About A Racist Joke. I Admire Them And Want To Know The Exact Reason Why They Are So Good In Wimbledon.:lol: :lol: I'm still laughing at mrserenawilliams' "Because black people smoke so much grass". :lol:

Anyway, this is such an odd question because I personally would never have concluded such. However, there aren't many AAs who even make it in tennis, let alone to Wimbledon, so maybe it just boils down to the best of the few who do make it rising to the top? :shrug: And like others have already stated, one could just as easily substitute "Americans" for "African Americans", and that statement would still be just as valid.

Though maybe the type of athletes that would do well in track and field would also do well at Wimbledon. Being able to get to the ball quickly is a must on grass. After that it's all a matter of technique 9and return the ball). So I'd conclude that the winners of the past would probably have made excellent sprinters as well.

HRHoliviasmith
Jun 21st, 2009, 02:18 AM
Donna Young will win Wimbledon

from your mouth to God's ears :sobbing:

Diesel
Jun 21st, 2009, 03:02 AM
:lol: :lol: I'm still laughing at mrserenawilliams' "Because black people smoke so much grass". :lol:

Anyway, this is such an odd question because I personally would never have concluded such. However, there aren't many AAs who even make it in tennis, let alone to Wimbledon, so maybe it just boils down to the best of the few who do make it rising to the top? :shrug: And like others have already stated, one could just as easily substitute "Americans" for "African Americans", and that statement would still be just as valid.

Though maybe the type of athletes that would do well in track and field would also do well at Wimbledon. Being able to get to the ball quickly is a must on grass. After that it's all a matter of technique 9and return the ball). So I'd conclude that the winners of the past would probably have made excellent sprinters as well.
Exactly.

No Name Face
Jun 21st, 2009, 03:55 AM
lol.

woosey
Jun 21st, 2009, 06:22 AM
because they wanna stick it to the man?

woosey
Jun 21st, 2009, 06:23 AM
Style of play.

nearly all the girls you mentioned, more important than all being black, all play pretty aggressively.

Grass rewards aggression.

because black people are angry? and wanna stick it to the white man, in his own backyard, on his lily white,exclusive turf?

Ellen Dawson
Jun 21st, 2009, 06:47 AM
grass rewards players who have a lot of natural athleticism. graf and navratilova were amazing athletes. in general, blacks are born with natural athleticism (look at professional basketball and US football) and are able to use that on grass.

The OP says that AA's "always play well on grass" but in the Open Era (40 years), only 6 (to my knowledge) have made it to the second week of Wimbledon. The OP might as well have said the same about Asians since a few of them have made it to the 3rd round or better. Yayuk and Tammy did well for several yrs straight, with Kimiko making it the qtrs one yr and the semi's the next. :shrug:

eck
Jun 21st, 2009, 07:01 AM
Because of the overuse of the shift button.

:sobbing: