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Dominic
Jun 10th, 2009, 01:23 AM
Hey guys, I had a debate on this subject earlier today, and I would like to know what ppl think. Basically, one of us is saying that all opinions on any subject, (astrology, attractiveness, the human body........etc.) are all as valuable and nobody is ever wrong and nobody is ever right.
The other one is saying that there are certain subjects (attractiveness, feelings, etc.) that are subjective, where all opinons are as valuable but other subjects, (human body, astrology, math, geology, etc...) where all opinions are not as valuable and since things can be calculated, measured, and scientifically verified,there is a right and a wrong answer.

Wiggly
Jun 10th, 2009, 03:35 AM
Well, some people beleive their opinions is better because they graduated from Harvard, Oxford or some of they world famous universities.

Maybe in their speciality, like you said, but on anything general, like philosphy or what's the definition of hapiness, the opinion of someone who worked at McDonald's for 30 years and Barack Obama's or a Yale's graduate opinions are worth the same.

Barrie_Dude
Jun 10th, 2009, 02:52 PM
I think that opinions are just that. As such, everyones opinion, or point of view is valid. However, there are also hard facts and they differ from opinion. You can have an opinion on a fact, but u cannot change the facts. For instance, it is a fact that I am in Toronto right now. How I feel about that is an opinion. How you feel about that is your opinion. But it does not change the fact that I am in Toronto right now.

Kworb
Jun 10th, 2009, 03:10 PM
Hmm it depends. Like if you're discussing politics, someone who has done his research and knows his stuff will have a more valuable opinion than someone who hasn't. But if you're discussing how attractive someone is or how good a certain song is, then everyone's opinion has the same value.

Direwolf
Jun 10th, 2009, 11:49 PM
experience counts...

Wigglytuff
Jun 11th, 2009, 02:12 AM
the first thing i thought about from reading the title was "NAMBLA"

Dominic
Jun 11th, 2009, 02:21 AM
the first thing i thought about from reading the title was "NAMBLA"

oh and what would that mean?

canuckfan
Jun 11th, 2009, 02:22 AM
If you look at the threads in General Messages, it's pretty clear the answer is a big fat "No" ;)

Wigglytuff
Jun 11th, 2009, 02:57 AM
oh and what would that mean?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nambla

The North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) is a New York City and San Francisco-based unincorporated organization in the United States that advocates the liberalization of laws against sexual relations between adult and minor males - resolving to "end the oppression of men and boys who have freely chosen mutually consenting relationships". NAMBLA also calls for "the adoption of laws that both protect children from unwanted sexual experiences and at the same time leave them free to determine the content of their own sexual experiences."[2] NAMBLA's webpage claims that: "NAMBLA does not provide encouragement, referrals or assistance for people seeking sexual contacts" and that it does not "engage in any activities that violate the law [or] advocate that anyone else should [violate the law]."[3]

NAMBLA holds an annual gathering in New York City and monthly meetings around the country.[4][clarification needed] In the early 1980s, NAMBLA was reported to have had over 300 members, and was supported by such noted figures as Allen Ginsberg.[5] Since then, the organization has kept membership data private, but an undercover FBI investigation in 1995 discovered that there were 1,100 people on the rolls.[4] It is the largest organization in the umbrella group Ipce[6] (formerly "International Pedophile and Child Emancipation").[6]

Since 1995, public criticism and law enforcement infiltration have heavily impaired the organization. Its national headquarters now consists of little more than a private mail box service in San Francisco, and they rarely respond to inquiries. Some reports state that the group no longer has regular national meetings and few local monthly meetings, and that as of the late 1990s to avoid local police infiltration, the organization discouraged the formation of local chapters.

Beat
Jun 11th, 2009, 01:54 PM
one of us is saying that all opinions on any subject, (astrology, attractiveness, the human body........etc.) are all as valuable and nobody is ever wrong and nobody is ever right.

well, if that was true, humankind could stop discussing anything right now. how could you progress and find solutions if all opinions were equal?

Dominic
Jun 11th, 2009, 03:40 PM
well, if that was true, humankind could stop discussing anything right now. how could you progress and find solutions if all opinions were equal?

THANK YOU!!!!! I was the one saying that not all opinions are right and valuable.

stevos
Jun 11th, 2009, 05:28 PM
I would say no, they definitely are not.
I mean, everyone is entitled to an opinion, yes. Of course.
However, everyone is also entitled to make art. Does that mean that anyone who creates art makes the same value of art? Of course not. I think (whoops, here comes an "opinion") that the best way we as human beings can produce great things is if we are all given the equal right to create things, or have opinions, but also that the greater of these will rise to the top. So, in terms of opinions, some have those which are based on well thought-out views, and some are based on ignorance.

Postmodernism doesn't mean that everyone is right. Postmodernism means that not just ONE view is right. Of those multiple views that could be true, though, they are all good strong views (hopefully).

Sorry if I went off the original parameters of the topic, but those are my thoughts.

Kart
Jun 11th, 2009, 09:02 PM
I tend to find more value in the opinions of people willing to listen to my own.

comfortably.numb
Jun 12th, 2009, 12:38 AM
Of course they aren't.