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midora
Sep 7th, 2002, 06:36 PM
I was racking my brain and scratching my head to understand why such venomous, vindictive invective are hurled on a constant basis on this board and in many tennis circles towards two young girls whose only crime I could discern is that they are the best at what they do. It couldn't be RACISM. That would be unheard of in this society. So I have amassed a list of what Williams detractors think is the problem with the Sisters.

1. They are boring

2.They are saddening

3. Venus is not outgoing enough

4. Serena is too outgoing

5. Venus shows no emotion on court

6. Serena shows too much emotion on court

7. They win too much

8. They are all power

9. They have no finesse which leads to reason #1

10. They are too dominant

11. Other players don't have a chance against them because of reason #8 which leads to reason #7 which causes reason #1 and makes everyone reason #2

12. They fix matches

13. They play too many tournaments together thus ensuring since they are 1 and 2 in the world that they will reach the final which of course takes us back to reason #1 which makes us reason #2

14. They don't play enough tournaments together thereby avoiding challenging each other and falsely holding on to the 1 and 2 rankings (see generally reason #12 and the remarks of Jennifer Capriati)

15. They are arrogant

16. They are conceited

17. They don't hang out with other players because of reasons #15 and 16

18. They don't train and or practice with other players because of reasons #15 and 16.

19. They are ugly

20. They play like men

21. Serena is flamboyant

22. Venus is not flamboyant enough

23. Thier father is crazy

24. Thier father is a bigot

25. Their father has a big mouth

26. Oracene has bad hair

27.Venus has bad hair

28. Serena has bad hair

29. They are too gracious. They refuse to get dragged into a catfight with their opponents thereby not feeding into fan and media sexism and double standards (See Treufreund's recent post entitled Amelie's Latest Quote on the Williams)

30. They don't call their opponents names (see Hingis, Mauresmo, Capriati)

31. They are too articulate

32. They refuse to trash their opponents or blame external sources on the rare occassion that they lose (see Hingis, Capriati, Henin, Mauresmo)

33. They win and thereby deserve the fame and riches that they get (see the career of fan favorite Anna Kournikova from 1997-present)

34. They don't do drugs, shoplift, get arrested, become rebellious, become fat , get depressed and thereby become America's sweetheart after a turnaround only to get fat, depressed,rebellious and confused again. (see the career of J. Capriati)

Whew I am exhausted. BUT PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ADD AS MANY DUMB SHIT EXCUSES AS YOU MAY SEE FIT.

Giuliano
Sep 7th, 2002, 06:41 PM
No seriously, what are you trying to do/create with that post? :confused:

ASV
Sep 7th, 2002, 06:44 PM
i dont like venus now.....

i went to the us open, and asked for her autograph, and she just kept walking, pretending not to notice i was even alive. she was very bitchy. we didn't get as close to serena, like 10 feet maybe, but she wouldnt either. she might have though if we were closer.

but we saw venus like 2x and were within 3 feet of her, and she wouldnt.
it wasnt very nice of her, and there was no crowd at all.

"Topaz"
Sep 7th, 2002, 06:45 PM
LOL! Oh boy, midora, you're possessed! In a fine way though! :)

Cybelle Darkholme
Sep 7th, 2002, 06:50 PM
Woohooo I love this post. Too bad the haters will never understand that their envy and jealousy is so transparent and pathetic. When you look at their excuses it really just makes you laugh because its all a pack of lies.

CHOCO
Sep 7th, 2002, 07:03 PM
midora - hands down the post of the day!!!! :)

I'm sure there will be more lame reasons after tonight's championship.

GOOOOO WILLIAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TexasTech Guy
Sep 7th, 2002, 07:05 PM
Superb post :)

smygelfh
Sep 7th, 2002, 07:36 PM
It was a good post to begin with, but you lost it when you added all the attacks on the other players.

midora
Sep 7th, 2002, 07:36 PM
Pardon. Please include yet another inciteful reason not to like a Williams sister that has been recently posted. It was so good I had to add it.

35. Serena's twirl at the end of her matches is fake and does not appropriately acknowledge the fans who have just booed her.

madlen_bg
Sep 7th, 2002, 07:39 PM
ok.
i`ve never liked venus and serena.

GogoGirl
Sep 7th, 2002, 07:41 PM
Great idea midora.



36. They are tooooooooo religious and believe tooooo much in God.

37. They honor thy parents and give them credit.

Becool
Sep 7th, 2002, 07:43 PM
Yes, we know, you like "Danieal Hautuchova" :rolleyes:

Maajken
Sep 7th, 2002, 07:43 PM
26. Oracene has bad hair

Yes thats exactly the reason why i dont like them. I hate orange hair.

CappyMania
Sep 7th, 2002, 07:45 PM
Number 19. could be the real reason. :confused:

GogoGirl
Sep 7th, 2002, 07:48 PM
Cappy Maniac - please lookie in the mirror if you truly want to see ugly and a bad joke. And then take your ugly @ss out in traffic and play by yourself.

Maajken
Sep 7th, 2002, 07:51 PM
Gogogirl, youre attacking other posters personally because they repeat something one of your fellow williamsfans have said themselves?

rated_next
Sep 7th, 2002, 07:53 PM
#4, #6, #8, #15, #19, #20, #23, #24, #25

that's why i dislike them

kiwifan
Sep 7th, 2002, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by midora
Pardon. Please include yet another inciteful reason not to like a Williams sister that has been recently posted. It was so good I had to add it.

35. Serena's twirl at the end of her matches is fake and does not appropriately acknowledge the fans who have just booed her. :p :p :p

Please edit your original post and put this in, too damn funny!!!

I also love because Venus isn't outgoing enough; because Serena is too outgoing.

You just can't win with haters, can you?:mad: :fiery: :mad:

I hope they enjoy the match today!!!:p ;) :angel:

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Ryan
Sep 7th, 2002, 07:56 PM
Woohooo I love this post. Too bad the haters will never understand that their envy and jealousy is so transparent and pathetic. When you look at their excuses it really just makes you laugh because its all a pack of lies.


I'm not jealous, or envious of them. Maybe all their money, but I wouldn't "hate" someone because of that. Otherwise, I liked your list midora.

GogoGirl
Sep 7th, 2002, 08:04 PM
The starter of this thread posted some of the reasons/excuses some use as to why they don't like the Sisters.

If a poster has the right to call the Sisters ugly - I have the right to defend. And I still say that it is wrong to call any of God's children ugly - and normally - I neva do it - but in this case - I will.

Because IMO - the said poster that calls the Sisters ugly - must have ugly thoughts and an ugly heart. Ugly is not just about looks. Duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Even a so-called beautiful woman or man can be ugly inside - and that will make their looks fade - and they end up being U - G - L Y all way round.

Look it up in the Bible about ugly and pretty and read what it says.

Ryan
Sep 7th, 2002, 08:06 PM
*Yaaaaawn* Preachy.

Maajken
Sep 7th, 2002, 08:10 PM
Wait a second gogogirl...if you call this other poster ugly, doesnt that make you ugly at heart aswell :confused:

Cybelle Darkholme
Sep 7th, 2002, 08:12 PM
Midora obviously your post went over heads of the haters. maybe they're not that bright?:eek: I should've known based on their previous posts, this just confirms it.:kiss:

Ryan
Sep 7th, 2002, 08:15 PM
Midora obviously your post went over heads of the haters. maybe they're not that bright?



Stupid? So you mean Dawn's a hater?!?!?!:eek: I knew it.

GogoGirl
Sep 7th, 2002, 08:18 PM
No Angelica - it doesn't make me ugly. First of all - I am talking about his/her ways - and not how he/she looks - for I've never seen said person. Secondly - as I stated before - ugly is not about looks - and especially in this case. Ugly is as ugly does - so because the Sisters are not here to defend themselves - I turned it back on the person calling them ugly.

And guess what in some folks' case - when they call someone else ugly just to get a response - all that's really happening is that their evil side is showing up. I hate evil and that's the only time I get upset when I hear/see/read about it.

There seems to be several folks on this board with EVIL & UGLY hearts. They know who they are - for they love to dance w/the D - EVIL.

Ryan
Sep 7th, 2002, 08:19 PM
Strong accusations Gogo.

Maajken
Sep 7th, 2002, 08:20 PM
lol you are cracking me up :D

Ill be off now and say my dayly hail mary's :wavey:

Ryan
Sep 7th, 2002, 08:24 PM
Cappy Maniac - please lookie in the mirror if you truly want to see ugly and a bad joke. And then take your ugly @ss out in traffic and play by yourself.



- I am talking about his/her ways - and not how he/she looks



Two quotes from GoGoGirl. The second contradicts the first. Typical.

GogoGirl
Sep 7th, 2002, 08:35 PM
No Ryan15 - you are the a typical hater and not me.

Didn't Micheal Jackson write a song titled:"Man in the Mirror?"

"I'm looking at the man in the mirror. I'm asking him to change his ways. And lastly - if you want to make the world a better place - just look at yourself - and make that - CHANGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGE"

Dawn Marie
Sep 7th, 2002, 08:42 PM
Because alot of people can fathom seeing two black women who are not the average sterotype kick ass. Sorry I forgot what number we were on. Was it 37?:)

Venus+Serena#1fan
Sep 7th, 2002, 09:09 PM
For someone that said they don't like Venus cuz she didn't sign their autograph.....

Venus is a very private person, that doesn't make her "bitchy" and just cuz she didn't sign ur autograph don't mean she's a bad person.

When I saw Venus at the Nasdaq 100 she didn't sign my autograph cuz she was too far, but she waved, and maybe she was tired not to acknowledge you.

Serena almost signed mine if her Bodyguard hadn't PUSHED me away, she was literally about to sign it but oh well...

you cant take those things personally.

Hulet
Sep 7th, 2002, 09:16 PM
can we have this in the list?

#40. After a match, serena says 'hi mom' to the camera.

Deira
Sep 7th, 2002, 09:24 PM
#41(?). They make some people afraid, VERY afraid.

midora
Sep 7th, 2002, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by eta psi
can we have this in the list?

#40. After a match, serena says 'hi mom' to the camera.

eta psi,

I too saw this observation in another post. Since it is every bit as reasoned and intelligent as the other reasons for not liking the WS, it deserves to be added to the list.

Jericho
Sep 7th, 2002, 09:40 PM
#41 - Venus doesnt like milk
#42 - They both have 8 consonants in their name which is way beyond the legal limit...
#43 - They can convert oxygen into adenosine triphosphate...

Dawn Marie
Sep 7th, 2002, 09:43 PM
Sarcasm I love it!:)

Nimi
Sep 7th, 2002, 09:49 PM
lol @ oliver.
This thread is as bad as the Jenn hating threads...

Nimi
Sep 7th, 2002, 09:58 PM
lol @ oliver.
This thread is as bad as the Jenn hating threads...

bis2806
Sep 7th, 2002, 10:20 PM
this thread is awesome... I hate the Williamses for all the reasons!

Monica_Rules
Sep 7th, 2002, 11:39 PM
Oliver all living things can do your number 43!

The main reason i don't like the williams sisters!

I just don't like them end of story same as people don't like jenny,monica,justine,kim,martina whoever!

Kiwi_Boy
Sep 7th, 2002, 11:48 PM
LOL

i must admit it gets a bit tideous when all you see on the top of the ranking lists are williams williams williams.........,but i guess if the play hard out for their goals they diserve it,IF.

Aylafr
Sep 8th, 2002, 01:59 AM
I wonder, how can you hate a player anyway. Has any of them stolen money from you ? Hurt your parents, family, friends, yourself ? Oooooooooh, your pride .... Haven't you got at home anyone closer to hate ?

Anyway, LOL@all this

LOL@#reason XXX : Venus drinks milk ????

Long live the Williamses :) They put passion in debates ! ;)

moby
Sep 8th, 2002, 04:38 AM
44. One of them has the name of a planet. The other one has the name of a... fine, she doesnt have a revolting name but she has a sister with the name of a planet ;)

Canek
Sep 8th, 2002, 05:03 AM
45. Serena made me hate the national team of Cameroon, and CatWoman when she was wearing her outfits this year. :eek:
46. Venus is a bad influence to the youth, teaching them how to lose all the possible finals against her younger sister :o

MinskLynx
Sep 8th, 2002, 05:48 AM
I agree with Midora

Williams Rulez
Sep 8th, 2002, 06:31 AM
#43 Serena has a large ass that blocks cameras.

Maajken
Sep 8th, 2002, 08:10 AM
lmao@the last one :D

oh well i definitely dont hate them, theyre just not my fave players and sometimes theres not even a reason for that. You like them or you dont and thats it :)

Informative
Sep 8th, 2002, 10:13 AM
GREAT POST MIDORA!

tennischick
Sep 8th, 2002, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by Williams Rulez
#43 Serena has a large ass that blocks cameras.

LOL!!!!!!!!!! :D :D