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spiceboy
Jun 1st, 2009, 11:39 AM
Apparently no hope for them :sad:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8076848.stm

French plane lost over Atlantic


An Air France plane carrying at least 228 people from Brazil to France has gone missing over the Atlantic.
Paris Charles de Gaulle airport says contact was lost with the flight from Rio de Janeiro early in the morning.
Brazil's air force confirmed the plane was missing and said a search and rescue mission was under way near the island of Fernando de Noronha.
An airport official told AFP the Airbus 330-200 had been expected to arrive in Paris at 1110 local time (0910 GMT).
Another official said it was possible that the plane had a transponder problem but this was very rare.
"We are very worried," he said, quoted by AFP news agency.

Crisis centre
Flight AF 447 left Rio at 1900 local time (2200 GMT) on Sunday. It had 216 passengers and 12 crew on board, including three pilots.
An Air France spokeswoman said there had been no radio contact with the plane "for a while".
It is reported to have disappeared 300km (186 miles) north-east of the Brazilian city of Natal.
Brazilian air force spokesman Col Henry Munhoz told Brazilian TV it had failed to be picked up by radar on the Cape Verde Islands on its way across the Atlantic.
"Air force planes left Fernando de Noronha and are flying towards Europe to start the search for the missing plane," he said.
Airport authorities have set up a crisis centre at Charles de Gaulle.
An Air France official told AFP that people awaiting the flight would be received in a special area at the airport's second terminal.
French President Nicolas Sarkozy has been informed of the incident and has expressed his deep concern, his office said.
He has demanded that the relevant authorities do everything they can to find the plane and "shed light on the circumstances surrounding its disappearance as rapidly as possible".
This is the first major accident in Brazilian air space since a Tam flight crashed in Sao Paulo in July 2007 killing 199 people.

Lin Lin
Jun 1st, 2009, 11:47 AM
I have read it a couple of minutes before,worried about them:sad:

Ellery
Jun 1st, 2009, 11:47 AM
Oh dear. :sad:

FORZA SARITA
Jun 1st, 2009, 11:50 AM
:sad:

matthias
Jun 1st, 2009, 11:52 AM
sounds really bad :sad:

Williamsser
Jun 1st, 2009, 11:58 AM
It can be anywhere over the Atlantic Ocean.

My heart and prayers go out to the passengers, crew, and their worried families.

Ciarán
Jun 1st, 2009, 12:01 PM
I read about it on BBC News :sad:

kittyking
Jun 1st, 2009, 12:20 PM
Are Qantas paying other companies to crash or something, this is the 5th crash/near crash since all their mess. In an average year there is only 1 plane crash, not 5 in 6 months :sad:

louisa.
Jun 1st, 2009, 12:22 PM
:sad:

ce
Jun 1st, 2009, 12:27 PM
:eek:
:sad:

Frode
Jun 1st, 2009, 01:33 PM
Still no news:sad:

azza
Jun 1st, 2009, 01:37 PM
Another Air Crash Investigations story in the making :sad:

Imperfect Angel
Jun 1st, 2009, 01:57 PM
I read it's 238.:eek: :speakles: :bolt:

CanadianBoy21
Jun 1st, 2009, 02:17 PM
It's 216 passangers and 12 crew.
I was shocked when I woke up and wanted to check frenchopen results, went on yahoo first, and saw Air France flight missing. I AM SHOCKED!!! How can it be missing!?? I am a flight attendant for Emirates and we have the opportunity to sit in the cockpit and see what happens and all the communication tools, etc... I am just shocked shocked shocked! It's unbelievable! I flew quite often on the A330 and it is an amazing aircraft, so really just shocked!
My thoughts and prayers go out to the families who are sitll hoping for their loved ones...
:sad:

Elwin.
Jun 1st, 2009, 02:17 PM
horrible :sad:
It probably has been struck by lighting in a severe thunderstorm.

CanadianBoy21
Jun 1st, 2009, 02:19 PM
they say it is quite unlikely it was hit by lightining, since the airplane skin has something against being hit by lightning

Sharpie4me
Jun 1st, 2009, 02:23 PM
:sad::sobbing:

hdfb
Jun 1st, 2009, 02:24 PM
It's scary. My condolences are with them and their families.

Williamsser
Jun 1st, 2009, 02:24 PM
Still no news:sad:

Of course there won't be news for a while. It's over the Atlantic Ocean. It will be very hard to find.

eck
Jun 1st, 2009, 03:01 PM
OMG :sobbing::tears:

Barrie_Dude
Jun 1st, 2009, 03:14 PM
I heard about this late last night. Really sad

New_balls_please
Jun 1st, 2009, 03:35 PM
OMG :sad: This is really sad :bigcry:

timafi
Jun 1st, 2009, 03:48 PM
omg I'm so sorry:sad: but I hope I don't have anyone on that flight:scared:

InsideOut.
Jun 1st, 2009, 04:37 PM
This is so sad. :sad: And really scary. :sobbing:

propi
Jun 1st, 2009, 04:53 PM
they say it is quite unlikely it was hit by lightining, since the airplane skin has something against being hit by lightning
Yes, I thought that airplanes have a system that allow them fly despite being hit by one, or so tried to explain me a phisic who happend to be an aeronautic lover.
I hope they can find something, my feelings are with all their families :sad:

Rocketta
Jun 1st, 2009, 10:59 PM
It's very sad and I pray that if death is the result it was quick and painless for them. that's so sad. :sad:

Lin Lin
Jun 1st, 2009, 11:29 PM
It's said 9 chinese people are among them:sad:

Ciarán
Jun 1st, 2009, 11:29 PM
3 Irish. All best friends, celebrating graduation from Trinity College in Dublin :sad:

HRHoliviasmith
Jun 1st, 2009, 11:39 PM
wow. this gave me the chills. :sad:

iGOAT
Jun 2nd, 2009, 12:13 AM
That's really weird/scary/sad :hug: to everyone :sad:.

P_Fer
Jun 2nd, 2009, 12:27 AM
awful :( :sad:

skanky~skanketta
Jun 2nd, 2009, 02:07 AM
OMG that's awful! How did it go missing? I mean, wasn't the pilot keeping contact with the people on land? Sorry, I know nothing about planes, so forgive me if I come off like an idiot.

Lennval
Jun 2nd, 2009, 11:04 AM
so sad :sad:

ys
Jun 2nd, 2009, 12:38 PM
Brazilians found wreckage.

kiwifan
Jun 2nd, 2009, 06:17 PM
I was flying across the Atlantic in the other direction (from Scotland to Los Angeles) :scared: at the time.

galadriel
Jun 3rd, 2009, 09:22 AM
Poor victims :sad:

Ksenia.
Jun 3rd, 2009, 09:26 AM
OMG that's awful! How did it go missing? I mean, wasn't the pilot keeping contact with the people on land? Sorry, I know nothing about planes, so forgive me if I come off like an idiot.Apparently it was reported missing when the contact with the plane crew was lost :shrug: :sad:


Such a sad story :sad:

Sharpie4me
Jun 3rd, 2009, 10:41 AM
Two girls from my city were on that airplane :sad::sobbing:
Poor victims :sobbing::sobbing::sad::sad:

New_balls_please
Jun 3rd, 2009, 10:45 AM
:tears: :bigcry:

Lin Lin
Jun 3rd, 2009, 10:53 AM
Is this the worst airplane incident of 2009?:confused:

Noctis
Jun 3rd, 2009, 11:48 AM
since 2001.assume they are all dead now.

kris719
Jun 3rd, 2009, 03:48 PM
OMG that's awful! How did it go missing? I mean, wasn't the pilot keeping contact with the people on land? Sorry, I know nothing about planes, so forgive me if I come off like an idiot.

when a plane crashes, it's hard for them to keep contact with land.

zvonarevarulz
Jun 3rd, 2009, 06:08 PM
:sad:

iGOAT
Jun 5th, 2009, 03:41 AM
Hmmm, I guess they found wreckage in the Atlantic, so they know it crashed, but they don't know why. They are trying to find the black boxes, which I think are the in-flight voice recorders....

kris719
Jun 5th, 2009, 05:48 AM
Hmmm, I guess they found wreckage in the Atlantic, so they know it crashed, but they don't know why. They are trying to find the black boxes, which I think are the in-flight voice recorders....

i think it'll be next to impossible to find the recorders. they found wreckage in a 3 square mile region of the ocean, an oil slick 12 miles long, and are currently searching 300 square miles of ocean. the ocean is over 2 miles deep. those boxes could be anywhere.

edit: i just read that the stuff they found is not from the Air France plane???? :confused:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/06/04/plane.crash/index.html

Noctis
Jun 5th, 2009, 06:23 AM
They believe its a terrorist attack。Days before the had a phonecall about it

Ksenia.
Jun 5th, 2009, 06:30 AM
Apparently the wreckage found earlier is not from this plane: http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/06/04/plane.crash/index.html#cnnSTCText

:sad:

kris719
Jun 5th, 2009, 07:09 AM
They believe its a terrorist attack。Days before the had a phonecall about it

that was a different incident:

Air France had received a bomb threat May 27 for a flight from Buenos Aires, Argentina, to Paris, sources in the Argentine military and police told CNN on Wednesday.

According to the officials, who had been briefed on the incident and declined to be identified because of the ongoing investigation, the Air France office in Buenos Aires received the threat from a man speaking Spanish.

Authorities checked the Boeing 777 and found nothing. Security was tightened during check-in for Flight 415, which left on time and without incident, the officials said.



this is interesting:

As several ships trawled the debris site in the Atlantic, Brazil's defense minister said a 20-kilometer (12-mile) oil slick near where the plane, en route from Rio de Janeiro to Paris, went down indicated it probably did not break up until it hit the water.

If true, that would rule out an in-flight explosion as the cause of the crash of Air France Flight 447, Defense Minister Nelson Jobim told reporters.

However, both pilots of an Air Comet flight from Lima, Peru, to Lisbon, Portugal, sent a written report on the bright flash they said they saw to Air France, Airbus and the Spanish civil aviation authority, the airline told CNN.

"Suddenly, we saw in the distance a strong and intense flash of white light, which followed a descending and vertical trajectory and which broke up in six seconds," the captain wrote.

Air Comet declined to identify the pilot's name but said he waited until landing to inform Air Comet management about what he saw. Air Comet then informed Spanish civil aviation authorities. The Air Comet co-pilot and a passenger aboard the same flight also saw the light.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/06/04/plane.crash/index.html

kwilliams
Jun 5th, 2009, 07:56 AM
A friend of mine knew the three young Irish doctors on the plane. My friend's a nurse, she must've worked with them.

only_one_maria
Jun 5th, 2009, 11:40 AM
I'm starting to fear it was terrorism. Brazil would be a surprising place though.

It does appear that whatever happened, happened very suddenly.

KournikovaFan91
Jun 5th, 2009, 07:02 PM
If it was a terrorist attack, a terrorist group would have claimed it by now. They even occasionly claim flights that they don't bomb, e.g that Flash Air flight in Egypt.

kris719
Jun 6th, 2009, 12:15 AM
If it was a terrorist attack, a terrorist group would have claimed it by now. They even occasionly claim flights that they don't bomb, e.g that Flash Air flight in Egypt.

exactly, terrorism doesn't work if nobody knows it was a terrorist attack. nobody knows what happened.

ys
Jun 6th, 2009, 01:07 AM
If it was a terrorist attack, a terrorist group would have claimed it by now. They even occasionly claim flights that they don't bomb, e.g that Flash Air flight in Egypt.

Not necessarily. "Petty" terrorists do that. Real guys don't. No one ever took responsibility for Lockerbie. No one actually claimed official responsibility for 9/11 either. Terrorism is not necessarily about making a statement. It's likewise about doing the damage. Remember September 11, when the first plane hit the tower, we were surprised, but not scared. We thought it is an accident. But when the second one hit , we realised that it is terror, and that's where we got terrified, got guessing where are they going to hit us next. And THEY didn't say a word. They just kept hitting.

Terrorists are very inventive. Blowing a plane and claiming responsibilty is old trick, nothing novel about it. Now think, if suddenly planes start disappearing in the middle of the ocean tracelessly. 1, 2, 3. Think about damage. Think about panic. That is a trademark of Al Qaeda. Unpredictability and no claim of responsibility. They just do it and leave us guessing. I would not rule out terrorism or terrorist sabotage here at all.

Simple fact. After whatever-was-happening started, communications kept working for 4 more minutes. But no word from pilots. Nothing. No Mayday. Nothing. Only automatic transmissions from perfectly working communication channels. Really suggests to me that by then they might have been incapacitated in some way.

Wiggly
Jun 6th, 2009, 03:09 AM
Not necessarily. "Petty" terrorists do that. Real guys don't. No one ever took responsibility for Lockerbie. No one actually claimed official responsibility for 9/11 either. Terrorism is not necessarily about making a statement. It's likewise about doing the damage. Remember September 11, when the first plane hit the tower, we were surprised, but not scared. We thought it is an accident. But when the second one hit , we realised that it is terror, and that's where we got terrified, got guessing where are they going to hit us next. And THEY didn't say a word. They just kept hitting.

Terrorists are very inventive. Blowing a plane and claiming responsibilty is old trick, nothing novel about it. Now think, if suddenly planes start disappearing in the middle of the ocean tracelessly. 1, 2, 3. Think about damage. Think about panic. That is a trademark of Al Qaeda. Unpredictability and no claim of responsibility. They just do it and leave us guessing. I would not rule out terrorism or terrorist sabotage here at all.

Simple fact. After whatever-was-happening started, communications kept working for 4 more minutes. But no word from pilots. Nothing. No Mayday. Nothing. Only automatic transmissions from perfectly working communication channels. Really suggests to me that by then they might have been incapacitated in some way.

Are you a terrorist? Because you're scarying me. :lol:

Williamsser
Jun 6th, 2009, 09:51 AM
They may never find the plane. It's in the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean. It's like finding a needle in a haystack.

A Magicman
Jun 6th, 2009, 10:25 AM
They may never find the plane. It's in the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean. It's like finding a needle in a haystack.

They have brought doorknobs of the Titanic to the light of day. Why shouldn't they find an entire airplane let alone the blackbox?

ys
Jun 6th, 2009, 11:57 AM
They have brought doorknobs of the Titanic to the light of day. Why shouldn't they find an entire airplane let alone the blackbox?
- because chances are there is no "entire" plane. If Spanish pilots saw what they saw, the whole thing is blown into pieces
- because they knew it with accuracy of exact coordinate where Titanic sunk. The history of aviation knows dozens of plane that just vanished. Fosset's plane disappeared over the land, and most of that area is desert. Yet they failed to find it.

iGOAT
Jun 6th, 2009, 04:39 PM
Wait so what was all the debris from then? Kind of strange...

Xanadu11
Jun 6th, 2009, 05:20 PM
Apparently bodies and debris have now been found :sad:

Bodies found from missing jet

Bodies and debris from an Air France flight that crashed into the Atlantic earlier this week have been found, a Brazilian air force spokesman has said.

Jorge Amaral told reporters in the northeastern city of Recife that the first bodies were found early on Saturday morning.

"We confirm the recovery from the water debris and bodies from the Air France plane," Colonel Jorge Amaral said.

Al Jazeera's Gabriel Elizondo reported that the bodies had been positively identified by the Brazilian navy and that pieces of luggage had also been recovered containing boarding stubs.

Flight AF 447 disappeared from radar en route from Rio de Janiero to Paris on Monday with 228 people on board.

Elizondo said: "Two male bodies have been retrieved. They are now on a navy cutter boat. They are sending two more cutters to the area to search for any more bodies that might be in the general vicinity.

"It will probably be a day until the navy cutter can get back to land."

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2009/06/200966165732533867.html

ce
Jun 6th, 2009, 05:24 PM
:sad:

Xanadu11
Jun 6th, 2009, 05:41 PM
Do not read this (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gkUnkxHxTIO0ydburHwg0DD9BdoQD98IPJ280), if you don't want to be sad.



The 11 year old boy :sobbing: All by himself, poor boy.

Noctis
Jun 6th, 2009, 05:50 PM
:sad:

V&SWilliams Fan
Jun 7th, 2009, 02:37 AM
:sad:

bad_angel_109
Jun 7th, 2009, 02:20 PM
:sad:

they're found/recovered some of the bodies. im interested yet scared at the same time to find out what happened to the plane

Wiggly
Jun 8th, 2009, 05:36 PM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/media/ALeqM5goV_cH6oNovvgt5AC41V7v30S0uw?size=l

They found that and 16 bodies.

Noctis
Jun 8th, 2009, 05:41 PM
:hug:

ce
Jun 8th, 2009, 06:06 PM
:sad:

gentenaire
Jun 10th, 2009, 07:29 PM
Apparently there were two terror suspects on the plane.

Noctis
Jun 10th, 2009, 07:35 PM
they found 41 bodies now.

Elske
Jun 10th, 2009, 09:08 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TECH/science/06/10/weather.dangerous.storms/index.html#cnnSTCVideo

So the plane must have broken into pieces when it was still in the air :shrug:

gentenaire
Jun 11th, 2009, 04:54 PM
Talk about bad luck!

An Italian couple were a few minutes late for check-in in Brasil and missed the ill-fated flight. They got a seat on the flight to Munich instead. On the drive home from Munich, they had a car crash. The woman was killed immediately. The husband is badly injured.

kris719
Jun 11th, 2009, 06:06 PM
Talk about bad luck!

An Italian couple were a few minutes late for check-in in Brasil and missed the ill-fated flight. They got a seat on the flight to Munich instead. On the drive home from Munich, they had a car crash. The woman was killed immediately. The husband is badly injured.

great luck and horrible luck all in a day's work :lol: i know, i shouldn't laugh.

Noctis
Jun 11th, 2009, 06:25 PM
you cant escape fate :sad:

:inlove:
Jun 11th, 2009, 07:17 PM
great luck and horrible luck all in a day's work :lol: i know, i shouldn't laugh.

yeah you´re right; you shouldn´t.

Bayo
Jun 11th, 2009, 08:04 PM
you cant escape fate :sad:

I never would have thought of it that way, but you could have a point. How Final Destination.

bad_angel_109
Jun 18th, 2009, 02:59 PM
Talk about bad luck!

An Italian couple were a few minutes late for check-in in Brasil and missed the ill-fated flight. They got a seat on the flight to Munich instead. On the drive home from Munich, they had a car crash. The woman was killed immediately. The husband is badly injured.omg, that's awful :sad:
have they foudn/recovered all the bodies yet?

Wiggly
Jun 19th, 2009, 01:35 AM
omg, that's awful :sad:
have they foudn/recovered all the bodies yet?

The last thing I've heard about that story is that they have a deadline and they will stop after that because the weather and the currents are too tough to face. And it's hot water and there is a lot of marine life so the the bodies are ... disapearing.

A Magicman
Jun 19th, 2009, 05:16 AM
What now comes to the light of day is the fact that only 3 days after the mysterious disappearing of the AF Airbus, there has been an attempted attack on an AF Airbus in Düsseldorf, Germany.

A smoke detector in the belly space was not working. Pilots didn't consider it too dangerous and started. Having landed in Paris, this malfunction had been checked and the technicians found out the the cables of the power supply of the smoke detector had been thoroughly cut.

So someone in Düsseldorf who has access to the airfield and the planes and who has aeronautical knowledges tried to sabotage the plane.

The whole story here in French:

http://fr.news.yahoo.com/73/20090616/tfr-l-autre-mystre-qui-inquite-air-franc-0e31ec3.html

bad_angel_109
Jun 22nd, 2009, 12:48 PM
The last thing I've heard about that story is that they have a deadline and they will stop after that because the weather and the currents are too tough to face. And it's hot water and there is a lot of marine life so the the bodies are ... disapearing.:sad:

thalle
Jun 23rd, 2009, 08:29 AM
Seems like they've located the black box...

bad_angel_109
Jun 23rd, 2009, 08:43 AM
i'd pee myself if i had to listen to the last moments of those terrified screams and panic from the black box.

Ksenia.
Jun 23rd, 2009, 10:03 AM
Yeah that's really scary :sad:
But well if it's true then we'll know the reason soon :sad:

bad_angel_109
Jun 23rd, 2009, 10:10 AM
But well if it's true then we'll know the reason soon :sad:i hope so, im still curious how it crashed and everyone on board died if it wasnt a terrorist attack or like technical/mechanical failure...

thalle
Jun 23rd, 2009, 10:23 AM
oh, now they say it was a false rumour... this is so freaky!

bad_angel_109
Jun 23rd, 2009, 10:26 AM
:speakles: a rumour? r u serious? how the hell can ppl spread rumours about that kinda stuff when so many people lost their lives?! :mad:

thalle
Jun 23rd, 2009, 10:52 AM
i think it was Le Monde who thought they had heard something... But not some official french people are saying it's not true. I hope it is true, but the official people just don't want it out of fear they can't completely locate it...

bad_angel_109
Jun 24th, 2009, 12:41 PM
aww, thats still awful :(