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Slutiana
Jul 23rd, 2010, 02:37 PM
Oh my... you should definitely use 'spank'. http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/kink.gif
www.spankthatpusher.com :worship:

MaBaker
Jul 23rd, 2010, 02:38 PM
I was thinking maybe something to do with a pusher or fistpump
Fistpump-out. : puppycry :

RFS
Jul 23rd, 2010, 02:45 PM
PuppySpank?

Oh my... get your mind OUT of the gutter!

Bruno71
Jul 23rd, 2010, 03:09 PM
I've got a hater. :cheer:

More than one, love. :lol:

дalex
Jul 23rd, 2010, 03:51 PM
More than one, love. :lol:

http://i42.tinypic.com/fjpzrq.jpg

Bruno71
Jul 23rd, 2010, 03:53 PM
http://i42.tinypic.com/fjpzrq.jpg

:rolleyes: you only responds with gifs I annoyed for years but never before tells you.

Slutiana
Jul 23rd, 2010, 04:36 PM
:hysteric:


I think I will call it 'FootFault' and have a picture of Serena shouting at Shino as the banner. :worship:

RFS
Jul 23rd, 2010, 04:49 PM
Footfault is actually a GREAT name :bounce:

дalex
Jul 23rd, 2010, 05:21 PM
FootFault sounds good. :yeah:

Slutiana
Jul 23rd, 2010, 05:37 PM
http://footfaulter.wordpress.com/
:hearts:


Going to take me a year before I figure out how to change the layout.

дalex
Jul 23rd, 2010, 05:47 PM
Looks great, but I don't see Jelena mentioned there. That's just rude, she is WTA after all.

Slutiana
Jul 23rd, 2010, 05:56 PM
Don't worry, she will be mentioned many, many times. :hearts:

Optima
Jul 23rd, 2010, 06:27 PM
Looking good :yeah:

oleada
Jul 23rd, 2010, 07:34 PM
Favorited :cheer:

RFS
Jul 23rd, 2010, 08:11 PM
I commented ...looking good so far!

MaBaker
Jul 24th, 2010, 08:00 AM
I like your name, Slutiana, and your blog. But not naming Jelena as your favourite player, after all she did for you.. is a bit disgraceful. You should needs to change that.

Slutiana
Jul 24th, 2010, 08:26 AM
I like your name, Slutiana, and your blog. But not naming Jelena as your favourite player, after all she did for you.. is a bit disgraceful. You should needs to change that.
Don't worry, girl. She's going to be permanently in the banner.

Jelena isn't one of my favourites though, it's weird because I almost feel like an honourary fan... Whatever that means. :lol:

I just sent a groveling letter to the Linz press guy asking him to give me the opportunity to cover his event, fingers crossed!

дalex
Jul 24th, 2010, 08:49 AM
Jelena isn't one of my favourites though, it's weird because I almost feel like an honourary fan... Whatever that means. :lol:

Dude, you're NOT an honourary fan - that's reetard because of his undying love for all things Jelena. You're a fan. Glad we settled this.

Good luck for Linz!

Bruno71
Jul 24th, 2010, 08:51 AM
Dude, you're NOT an honourary fan - that's reetard because of his undying love for all things Jelena. You're a fan. Glad we settled this.

Good luck for Linz!

No gifs or smileys? Wow, whats restraints!

дalex
Jul 24th, 2010, 09:01 AM
No gifs or smileys? Wow, whats restraints!

Cp5ljia set me straight and showed me the way!

Brena
Jul 24th, 2010, 11:44 AM
:rolleyes: you only responds with gifs I annoyed for years but never before tells you.

I like your name, Slutiana, and your blog. But not naming Jelena as your favourite player, after all she did for you.. is a bit disgraceful. You should needs to change that.

:hysteric:

Is Cpbhja still stalking you Alex?

http://footfaulter.wordpress.com/
:hearts:

Going to take me a year before I figure out how to change the layout.

You go, Slut! :rocker2::cheer:
At what university do you intend to study journalism?

Slutiana
Jul 24th, 2010, 11:50 AM
Dude, you're NOT an honourary fan - that's reetard because of his undying love for all things Jelena. You're a fan. Glad we settled this.

Good luck for Linz!
:hysteric: Fine then.

You go, Slut! :rocker2::cheer:
At what university do you intend to study journalism?
To be honest, I really don't have a clue. :lol:

I'm going to start applying by the end of august and stuff, but i'm going to take a gap year and hopefully through this blog I will be able to travel around to certain tournaments as a journalist and start making contacts and start getting contacts and networking. I'm so exciteding!11!1!

Brena
Jul 24th, 2010, 12:40 PM
To be honest, I really don't have a clue. :lol:

I'm going to start applying by the end of august and stuff, but i'm going to take a gap year and hopefully through this blog I will be able to travel around to certain tournaments as a journalist and start making contacts and start getting contacts and networking. I'm so exciteding!11!1!

It is exciting! Oh, I envy you so!
Come to Novak Open next year!

Slutiana
Jul 24th, 2010, 01:09 PM
It is exciting! Oh, I envy you so!
Come to Novak Open next year!
That's actually a good idea. :worship: I just hope all of my exams are over by then.

Where are you from?

Brena
Jul 24th, 2010, 01:53 PM
That's actually a good idea. :worship: I just hope all of my exams are over by then.

Where are you from?

From Belgrade, just like those two nuts Alex and MaBaker. Rozzie and Princeza have already visited us. Pick up your twin Marko somewhere along the way, and we'll be waiting. :)

RFS
Jul 24th, 2010, 01:57 PM
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNfbX6uvA6s&feature=youtu.be)had me sobbing... but with tears of hilarity - quite the funniest thing I've seen for a while

Probably more for Brits who know the difference between Wales and England!

Slutiana
Jul 24th, 2010, 02:42 PM
From Belgrade, just like those two nuts Alex and MaBaker. Rozzie and Princeza have already visited us. Pick up your twin Marko somewhere along the way, and we'll be waiting. :)
I can't believe I thought you were Scottish all this time. :rolleyes:

You all met up and had a Jankovic fan parade? I hope you didn't bump into any fans of Baby Anci while they were searching for her forehand across the streets of Belgrade. :sad:

Kim's_fan_4ever
Jul 24th, 2010, 03:04 PM
I can't believe I thought you were Scottish all this time. :rolleyes:

You all met up and had a Jankovic fan parade? I hope you didn't bump into any fans of Baby Anci while they were searching for her forehand across the streets of Belgrade. :sad:

Princeza is a big Anci fan :lol:

ce
Jul 24th, 2010, 03:50 PM
i really like your blog :), good luck with it :dance:

RFS
Jul 24th, 2010, 04:18 PM
Wow - the new format is looking REALLY good on the blog now - excellent stuff.

Wrekin
Jul 24th, 2010, 05:28 PM
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNfbX6uvA6s&feature=youtu.be)had me sobbing... but with tears of hilarity - quite the funniest thing I've seen for a while

Probably more for Brits who know the difference between Wales and England!

I was thinking of posting that here - great minds think alike :)

Slutiana
Jul 24th, 2010, 05:54 PM
Princeza is a big Anci fan :lol:
:scared:
i really like your blog :), good luck with it :dance:
Wow - the new format is looking REALLY good on the blog now - excellent stuff.
Thank you. :worship: I even have a banner now!

I just emailed the people from the Linz tournament and had a loooooooooooooooong email conversation with the press coordinator guy. Then when we were finalising everything I asked "should I get there for the qualifying or the main draw" and he was like "no, no.. Bad Gastein is already in the semifinals." :help::help::help: So now I have to email ANOTHER guy and do it all over again.

Just Do It
Jul 24th, 2010, 06:27 PM
Tuki, amazing blog :worship:
Will there be something about ITF as well or just WTA and ATP ?

Slutiana
Jul 24th, 2010, 06:44 PM
Tuki, amazing blog :worship:
Will there be something about ITF as well or just WTA and ATP ?
Not as much but don't worry, I will write about Jelly D. :p

Just Do It
Jul 24th, 2010, 06:46 PM
^ :rolls: Hopefully she will stick to WTA after Bucharest 75k.

RFS
Jul 24th, 2010, 08:03 PM
I was thinking of posting that here - great minds think alike :)

Dude!!! It is just hilarious! Anyway mate how's tricks?

Daruma.
Aug 5th, 2010, 07:13 PM
http://www.makemebabies.com/shared/4/baby/1008050/babywb20100805020930o3q13f6c319ellgbrhhmiuq644.jpg

Such an expression! :worship:

:inlove:

Bruno71
Aug 5th, 2010, 07:37 PM
http://www.makemebabies.com/shared/4/baby/1008050/babywb20100805020930o3q13f6c319ellgbrhhmiuq644.jpg

Such an expression! :worship:

:inlove:

:spit:

Caralenko
Aug 8th, 2010, 02:55 AM
I just woke up after having a dream about JJ. :weirdo: She did flamenco dancing with me in a restaurant.

дalex
Aug 8th, 2010, 08:06 AM
:lol: Like this?

http://a.imageshack.us/img89/2493/flamenco.gif

Brena
Aug 8th, 2010, 10:07 AM
I just woke up after having a dream about JJ. :weirdo: She did flamenco dancing with me in a restaurant.

Oh noes. Is she as horrible a person as advertised?

Caralenko
Aug 8th, 2010, 11:35 AM
Yeah, much like http://a.imageshack.us/img89/2493/flamenco.gif. I think your Empress video inspired the dream.

Oh noes. Is she as horrible a person as advertised?

No, she was lovely.

Safe-From-Harm
Aug 8th, 2010, 06:46 PM
http://www.makemebabies.com/shared/4/baby/1008050/babywb20100805020930o3q13f6c319ellgbrhhmiuq644.jpg

Such an expression! :worship:

:inlove:


:lol::lol::lol::lol::tape:
Anyway, never saw this thread.
Always been lost.

Brena
Aug 10th, 2010, 09:16 PM
Welcome me to your exclusive club, Alex, Cp6hja's stalking me now as well! :hysteric:

Bruno71
Aug 10th, 2010, 09:26 PM
Welcome me to your exclusive club, Alex, Cp6hja's stalking me now as well! :hysteric:

I wonder why he doesn't stalk me. Maybe you have to be Serbian to be worth it to him :lol:

Mynarco
Aug 10th, 2010, 09:30 PM
Jankovic Please do NOT lose to Dushevina tonight. Any livestream?

дalex
Aug 10th, 2010, 09:49 PM
Welcome me to your exclusive club, Alex, Cp6hja's stalking me now as well! :hysteric:

Welcome! :cheer:

But no, I'm special, a forum legend that has been annoying Cp61a for years so only recently he found the courage to admit it. A virtual mosquito, self-proclaimed die-hard fan and stupid.

Just Do It
Aug 11th, 2010, 12:30 AM
I'd die to see how Cpbuja looks like :(

Daruma.
Aug 11th, 2010, 09:03 AM
X3_NLrpYjrk

:spit:

Can somebody provide me the video of the song, or at least the name? :lol:

EDIT : I found it. :lol: "Duge noge". What a song! :worship:

MaBaker
Aug 11th, 2010, 11:54 AM
I'd die to see how Cpbuja looks like :(
http://i36.tinypic.com/foppcj.jpg

Slutiana
Aug 11th, 2010, 01:36 PM
http://i36.tinypic.com/foppcj.jpg
Wow, that's amazing. :hysteric:

Brena
Aug 11th, 2010, 01:42 PM
http://i36.tinypic.com/foppcj.jpg

MaGOAT :bowdown::bowdown:
Not only is it hilariously funny, it's also very likely an accurate depiction. :sobbing:

RFS
Aug 11th, 2010, 05:56 PM
Fucking horrible day - 4 hours away from home and still hotel bound for one night with my ass-holic PM who reduced me to tears of sheer frustration today in front of some of the team with his constant refusal to listen to opinions other than his own.

Someone somewhere hire me as a tennis writer with the same salary I have now and I would GLADLY walk away... neigh RUN away. On a dicky ankle, to boot!

Edit: Thank you Alex for laughing at my nickname for Akgul :hug: :kiss:

дalex
Aug 11th, 2010, 06:02 PM
Edit: Thank you Alex for laughing at my nickname for Akgul :hug: :kiss:

That's like the best Akgul nickname I've seen in ages and she's had many so... :lol:

Sorry to hear about that work stuff, Rozzie babe. :hug:

Wrekin
Aug 11th, 2010, 06:05 PM
^ A stiff double is what you need

Optima
Aug 11th, 2010, 07:16 PM
I propose a JJ Clinic drinking party :cheer: Preferably watching her lose to Ivanovic a qualifier ;)

Brena
Aug 11th, 2010, 10:34 PM
Completely random: my idiot cat.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7932/slika0231.th.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/i/slika0231.jpg/)

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1343/slika0226.th.jpg (http://img338.imageshack.us/i/slika0226.jpg/)

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9494/slika0021.th.jpg (http://img130.imageshack.us/i/slika0021.jpg/)

Bruno71
Aug 11th, 2010, 10:40 PM
I propose a JJ Clinic drinking party :cheer: Preferably watching her lose to Ivanovic a qualifier ;)

I wouldn't be able to handle that kind of drinking at my age anymore. I'd be hungover for a week :sad:

Snex
Aug 11th, 2010, 10:42 PM
Completely random: my idiot cat.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7932/slika0231.th.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/i/slika0231.jpg/)

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1343/slika0226.th.jpg (http://img338.imageshack.us/i/slika0226.jpg/)

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9494/slika0021.th.jpg (http://img130.imageshack.us/i/slika0021.jpg/)

:inlove:

Sugar. I adore cats.

Optima
Aug 12th, 2010, 06:09 AM
Completely random: my idiot cat.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7932/slika0231.th.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/i/slika0231.jpg/)

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1343/slika0226.th.jpg (http://img338.imageshack.us/i/slika0226.jpg/)

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9494/slika0021.th.jpg (http://img130.imageshack.us/i/slika0021.jpg/)

Lovely :inlove:

Caralenko
Aug 12th, 2010, 07:28 AM
Completely random: my idiot cat
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9494/slika0021.th.jpg

I squee'd. :sobbing:

Kim's_fan_4ever
Aug 12th, 2010, 09:11 AM
Completely random: my idiot cat.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7932/slika0231.th.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/i/slika0231.jpg/)

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1343/slika0226.th.jpg (http://img338.imageshack.us/i/slika0226.jpg/)

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9494/slika0021.th.jpg (http://img130.imageshack.us/i/slika0021.jpg/)

Oh noes :hysteric: He's too adorable. The last pic is too good :tears:

Just Do It
Aug 12th, 2010, 12:12 PM
Lovely cat :inlove:

Safe-From-Harm
Aug 12th, 2010, 01:09 PM
Completely random: my idiot cat.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7932/slika0231.th.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/i/slika0231.jpg/)

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1343/slika0226.th.jpg (http://img338.imageshack.us/i/slika0226.jpg/)

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9494/slika0021.th.jpg (http://img130.imageshack.us/i/slika0021.jpg/)

Nice ones.
In this forum, I have a problem (or how I call it) to know who is male and who is female. I mean in all cases I thought wrong:tape:....Sommetimes I make some perception in my head who is who, then when I read that someone who I thought that is girl, someone call him ,,he''. I never been some forum freak. Now I see all as a aliens.
So, I suppose that this is You in pic, so You're the first to enter my ,,broke unknown'' place. 'cause it's my first time I was right. ....just don't tell me I am wrong, Breno.:tape:

Kim's_fan_4ever
Aug 12th, 2010, 02:37 PM
Since we are at posting our cats pics... :angel:

Here's my cat:

http://a.imageshack.us/img830/2826/dsc01762b.th.jpg (http://img830.imageshack.us/i/dsc01762b.jpg/)

The following cats I feed in the garden:

http://a.imageshack.us/img819/7504/dsc01832t.th.jpg (http://img819.imageshack.us/i/dsc01832t.jpg/)

http://a.imageshack.us/img842/7943/dsc01813e.th.jpg (http://img842.imageshack.us/i/dsc01813e.jpg/)

And a series of pics with little mama and her 4 kittens :D

http://a.imageshack.us/img261/5606/dsc01763v.th.jpg (http://img261.imageshack.us/i/dsc01763v.jpg/)

http://a.imageshack.us/img261/8828/dsc01765x.th.jpg (http://img261.imageshack.us/i/dsc01765x.jpg/)

http://a.imageshack.us/img444/3402/dsc01756d.th.jpg (http://img444.imageshack.us/i/dsc01756d.jpg/)

http://a.imageshack.us/img837/2192/dsc01837n.th.jpg (http://img837.imageshack.us/i/dsc01837n.jpg/)

http://a.imageshack.us/img46/1680/dsc01789p.th.jpg (http://img46.imageshack.us/i/dsc01789p.jpg/)

http://a.imageshack.us/img697/3499/dsc01753q.th.jpg (http://img697.imageshack.us/i/dsc01753q.jpg/)

ce
Aug 12th, 2010, 03:05 PM
so many cats :scared:
Im a dog lover :p

Optima
Aug 12th, 2010, 04:31 PM
Most cats hate me for some unknown reason, but I think they're cute. I'm more of a dog person myself.

MaBaker
Aug 12th, 2010, 05:18 PM
Here's my cat:
The following cats I feed in the garden:
And a series of pics with little mama and her 4 kittens :D
They all look really cute.

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9494/slika0021.th.jpg (http://img130.imageshack.us/i/slika0021.jpg/)
Completely retarded :worship:

~Kiera~
Aug 12th, 2010, 05:45 PM
Completely random: my idiot cat.

Since we are at posting our cats pics... :angel:

They're all adorable :awww:

oleada
Aug 12th, 2010, 06:21 PM
OMG, I love lepa brena's retarded cat pics.

so many cats :scared:
Im a dog lover :p

Me too.

I don't have a cat, but I have a dog...right now I had to get his head off the laptop because he thinks it takes up too much of attention I could be giving him. :rolleyes:

I don't know how my dog doesn't hate my sister when she does things like this to him:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v133/97/44/26402468/n26402468_30665107_7755.jpg

and a more recent pic...he loves this toy, he ripped off the eyes two seconds later:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs077.snc4/35221_549519496625_26402468_32008203_4288913_n.jpg

Daruma.
Aug 12th, 2010, 06:22 PM
^ That's a lovely dog.

Optima
Aug 12th, 2010, 06:32 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/kanariya23/lucie-1.jpg

Lucie :inlove:

Caralenko
Aug 12th, 2010, 11:59 PM
Since we are at posting our cats pics... :angel:

Here's my cat:

http://a.imageshack.us/img830/2826/dsc01762b.th.jpg (http://img830.imageshack.us/i/dsc01762b.jpg/)

The following cats I feed in the garden:

http://a.imageshack.us/img819/7504/dsc01832t.th.jpg (http://img819.imageshack.us/i/dsc01832t.jpg/)

http://a.imageshack.us/img842/7943/dsc01813e.th.jpg (http://img842.imageshack.us/i/dsc01813e.jpg/)

And a series of pics with little mama and her 4 kittens :D

http://a.imageshack.us/img261/5606/dsc01763v.th.jpg (http://img261.imageshack.us/i/dsc01763v.jpg/)

http://a.imageshack.us/img261/8828/dsc01765x.th.jpg (http://img261.imageshack.us/i/dsc01765x.jpg/)

http://a.imageshack.us/img444/3402/dsc01756d.th.jpg (http://img444.imageshack.us/i/dsc01756d.jpg/)

http://a.imageshack.us/img837/2192/dsc01837n.th.jpg (http://img837.imageshack.us/i/dsc01837n.jpg/)

http://a.imageshack.us/img46/1680/dsc01789p.th.jpg (http://img46.imageshack.us/i/dsc01789p.jpg/)

http://a.imageshack.us/img697/3499/dsc01753q.th.jpg (http://img697.imageshack.us/i/dsc01753q.jpg/)

LOVE. :hearts:

oleada
Aug 13th, 2010, 12:50 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/kanariya23/lucie-1.jpg

Lucie :inlove:

So cute! :hearts:

MaBaker
Aug 13th, 2010, 08:44 AM
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v133/97/44/26402468/n26402468_30665107_7755.jpg
lol, looks like he's a Jeja fan. Lucie should needs to have a tiara too http://i38.tinypic.com/rvk2kk.gif

Kim's_fan_4ever
Aug 13th, 2010, 08:46 AM
Thanks guys :wavey:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/kanariya23/lucie-1.jpg

Lucie :inlove:

Is the name after Lucie Safarova? :p

-NAJ-
Aug 13th, 2010, 10:14 AM
Thanks guys :wavey:



Is the name after Lucie Safarova? :p

i wanted to ask the same:cool:

Optima
Aug 13th, 2010, 02:28 PM
Thanks guys :wavey:



Is the name after Lucie Safarova? :p

Actually, no haha - although I've started spelling it that way..bahaha.

дalex
Aug 18th, 2010, 04:19 PM
R7CIvOuWNhI&feature=related

:spit:

Bruno71
Aug 18th, 2010, 06:13 PM
I happen to have already been a big fan of that weatherman ;)

http://images.digitalspy.co.uk/10/02/550w_tomasz_schafernaker.jpg

Optima
Aug 18th, 2010, 06:59 PM
I happen to have already been a big fan of that weatherman ;)

http://images.digitalspy.co.uk/10/02/550w_tomasz_schafernaker.jpg

Yum. :worship:

RFS
Aug 20th, 2010, 08:03 PM
JamesLaRosa

Called it. Serena out of the US Open.
4 minutes ago via Tweed

-NAJ-
Sep 5th, 2010, 09:46 PM
Today I watched SALT movie.Good one. It's great to see Angelina in action;)

Caralenko
Sep 11th, 2010, 08:20 AM
Oi bints, I need your opinions. Which colour is more appealing?

Tangerine: http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ3d40nTxhg2CC6aOXVKL6WQzMG4qKfT AoWZs66h6o5FvBq32A&t=1&usg=__x9itiyo3FA7v0ez3z6ohgJ6hggk=

Or salmon?
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ0MRwf-OmoU6xztcfm3259hguqqQDBndDyc3yatjcU6NdU2vU&t=1&usg=__47_oPCaaaa5kjv7n3uYjOgYoCGY=

Or a nicer colour on the pink-red scale that you like? :happy:

дalex
Sep 11th, 2010, 10:12 AM
Well that's hard. Hopefully no one's life depends on it. Tangerine.

Caralenko
Sep 11th, 2010, 11:24 AM
Well that's hard. Hopefully no one's life depends on it. Tangerine.

I agree, the child can live.

дalex
Sep 11th, 2010, 11:39 AM
I agree, the child can live.

http://i28.tinypic.com/dpg6lg.jpg

So relieved.

RFS
Sep 11th, 2010, 11:50 AM
Salmony...

Safe-From-Harm
Sep 13th, 2010, 11:35 AM
Anyone else feels some satisfaction of Novak beats Federer and his jet-set box?
It was a price to see Federer's face after loss.

дalex
Sep 13th, 2010, 11:40 AM
It's always nice when Fed loses. Even against Djokovic. :lol:

Happy for Princeza too. I know she's Anna Wintour fan. :sobbing:

Safe-From-Harm
Sep 13th, 2010, 01:44 PM
Huh, it is more likely when it's against Novak.
I see You're not the fan hehe.

Optima
Sep 13th, 2010, 03:52 PM
I like Novak, but can't stand his parents...barf.

Did you see the shirt his father was wearing? :o :help:

Safe-From-Harm
Sep 13th, 2010, 04:49 PM
I like Novak, but can't stand his parents...barf.

Did you see the shirt his father was wearing? :o :help:

Yes, I saw it.
Well, there are many different ways to show how You like your child.:D

Princeza
Sep 13th, 2010, 05:20 PM
It's always nice when Fed loses. Even against Djokovic. :lol:

Happy for Princeza too. I know she's Anna Wintour fan. :sobbing:

I'm currently too slow to detect cynicism or sarkazam.
http://i56.tinypic.com/21tudz.gif

Optima
Sep 13th, 2010, 06:03 PM
Salmon :D

RFS
Sep 22nd, 2010, 05:39 PM
Oh my days - my new kitchen is getting closer to completion... stone worktops are confirmed for fitting on FRIDAY! I haven't had a hob to cook on since the middle of August, using only a microwave.

I WANT MY KITCHEN FINISHED!!!!!

Safe-From-Harm
Sep 26th, 2010, 04:23 PM
Is there any of You who have been in Sommer school in Germany?
Like DAAD organizers and so.
I need a help!

-NAJ-
Oct 4th, 2010, 02:27 PM
Is there a option to delete my account here?

Daruma.
Oct 4th, 2010, 02:28 PM
No. But you can get it terminated.

-NAJ-
Oct 4th, 2010, 02:32 PM
how, where?

дalex
Oct 4th, 2010, 02:33 PM
Is there a option to delete my account here?

Why would you want to do that? It's so much fun here. :lol:

Daruma.
Oct 4th, 2010, 02:33 PM
Why do you want it? It's fun being a member. :shrug:

Edit: Exactly the same post as Alex. :spit:

-NAJ-
Oct 4th, 2010, 02:38 PM
You people here are positive thing, but it's not fun anymore with JJ being such useless player :sad:

Daruma.
Oct 4th, 2010, 02:43 PM
You can unsubscribe to all JJ-related threads and move on. Abandon everythink you feel for JJ. :lol: We can all suffer instead of you. :sobbing:

дalex
Oct 4th, 2010, 02:44 PM
You people here are positive thing, but it's not fun anymore with JJ being such useless player :sad:

I know what you mean. It's definitely not fun anymore, but you know, maybe she comes back one day. She's only 25. :lol:

дalex
Oct 4th, 2010, 02:50 PM
Edit: Exactly the same post as Alex. :spit:

Except... I was sarcastic. :lol:

Brena
Oct 4th, 2010, 03:13 PM
Is there a option to delete my account here?

It's a pity you're not Puppy-hater or I'd advise you to have a ''Let's Annoy Evil Anatards'' spree and get banned in style. :D
Do you at least strongly dislike WozWoz?

-NAJ-
Oct 4th, 2010, 03:20 PM
It's a pity you're not Puppy-hater or I'd advise you to have a ''Let's Annoy Evil Anatards'' spree and get banned in style. :D

OMG :lol:
Do you at least strongly dislike WozWoz?
No, I kinda like her and safina for being fighters on court:o But being safina fan is even worse than being jj fan:o

Brena
Oct 4th, 2010, 03:25 PM
OMG :lol:

No, I kinda like her and safina for being fighters on court:o But being safina fan is even worse than being jj fan:o

:awww: Well, in that case, try a JJ-hating spree but I doubt anyone will report you for that...

~Kiera~
Oct 4th, 2010, 03:58 PM
OMG :lol:

No, I kinda like her and safina for being fighters on court:o But being safina fan is even worse than being jj fan:o

As a Jelena and Dinara fan, I have to wonder what I did in a past life to deserve this torment :hysteric:

redsonja
Oct 4th, 2010, 04:24 PM
As a Jelena and Dinara fan, I have to wonder what I did in a past life to deserve this torment :hysteric:

:hug:

Misery loves company. :p

-NAJ-
Oct 4th, 2010, 05:05 PM
As a Jelena and Dinara fan, I have to wonder what I did in a past life to deserve this torment :hysteric:

:hug:

I got pm response from admin.
The rules are strict,
I will think again:tape:


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~Kiera~
Oct 4th, 2010, 05:09 PM
:hug:

Misery loves company. :p

:hug:

Thanks :p

-NAJ-
Oct 4th, 2010, 05:15 PM
you also have Vera on your official list :hug: x 10

~Kiera~
Oct 4th, 2010, 05:20 PM
you also have Vera on your official list :hug: x 10

I know, I definitely hit the :cuckoo: jackpot when I picked my favourites :lol:

Brena
Oct 4th, 2010, 06:21 PM
As a Jelena and Dinara fan, I have to wonder what I did in a past life to deserve this torment :hysteric:

:hug:

Misery loves company. :p

I know, I definitely hit the :cuckoo: jackpot when I picked my favourites :lol:

Yo Sonj! :wavey:
But to be honest, there are no normal WTA players these day one could support and stay sane. :shrug: Perhaps only Serena. And Henin and Clijsters to a certain point. Everyone else either can't play tennis or needs a straight-jacket.

redsonja
Oct 5th, 2010, 01:37 AM
Yo Sonj! :wavey:
Helllooooooo!

But to be honest, there are no normal WTA players these day one could support and stay sane. :shrug: Perhaps only Serena. And Henin and Clijsters to a certain point. Everyone else either can't play tennis or needs a straight-jacket.
It's true. And I'd think even Serena would drive you nuts at some point, what with the way she hardly ever shows up to anything. :p

Bruno71
Oct 10th, 2010, 08:03 PM
Very sad to read about what these hatemongers did at gay pride in Belgrade. I hope they're all severely punished.

MB.
Oct 10th, 2010, 08:31 PM
Very sad to read about what these hatemongers did at gay pride in Belgrade. I hope they're all severely punished.

Just read an article on it and forwarded it to my parents...sad stuff.

Brena
Oct 10th, 2010, 08:52 PM
Very sad to read about what these hatemongers did at gay pride in Belgrade. I hope they're all severely punished.

Oh, I don't even know what to tell you about that except that IMO it sadly didn't have much to do with gay people and the fight for their rights but rather with politics and that everyone involved were just used. Serbia is nowadays nothing but a banana-republic: different political parties, NGOs and who knows who else work with different foreign governments and therefore have different aims which don't necesseraly have much to do with Serbian people (gay or otherwise) and their interests, but rather with personal (financial) ones. I personally think some of them had an interset in sending this awful potrayal of Serbia in the world-media so that they would have an excuse for the lack of progress towards tthe EU membership (or any other progress, for that matter). Some other parties probably used this to gain supporters among those who oppose public gay manifesttions. And it's probably hard to understand coming from a western country, but that's one of the particularities of Balkan countries, Serbia being just one of them. For some reason, they are very conservative and introducing such changes, like acceptance of a manifestation like gay pride, will take much time and effort. Instead, it was organised (on purpose or not) that way that some people probably felt something they didn't like was being imposed on them, so they protested. However, having seen enough street riots in Belgrade in my lifetime, I can vouch the crimes were committed not by ordinary Serbian citizens but by a bunch of everpresent retarded hooligans and, more importantly, by the rent-a-mob that's used for everything here. Majority of people in Serbia (however, not in Belgrade) are indeed conservative, but they are not violent psychos who would attack people only because of their sexual orientation. Despite all the conservatism, a gay community has always been present here and some very powerful people from the world of art (primarily) have always been openly gay and no one cared.
What I meant to say is that the situation for gay people here is not as dismal as it may look from this incident (it's actually equally dismal for everyone :lol::help:), and that it all should be taken with a pinch of salt.
I hope it was some consolation. I'm also certain a lot of people will end up in jail for this, although I don't think it'll be the right ones, if you get my meaning. :sad:

Bruno71
Oct 10th, 2010, 08:55 PM
Oh, I don't even know what to tell you about that except that IMO it sadly didn't have much to do with gay people and the fight for their rights but rather with politics and that everyone involved were just used. Serbia is nowadays nothing but a banana-republic: different political parties, NGOs and who knows who else work with different foreign governments and therefore have different aims which don't necesseraly have much to do with Serbian people (gay or otherwise) and their interests, but rather with personal (financial) ones. I personally think some of them had an interset in sending this awful potrayal of Serbia in the world-media so that they would have an excuse for the lack of progress towards tthe EU membership (or any other progress, for that matter). Some other parties probably used this to gain supporters among those who oppose public gay manifesttions. And it's probably hard to understand coming from a western country, but that's one of the particularities of Balkan countries, Serbia being just one of them. For some reason, they are very conservative and introducing such changes, like acceptance of a manifestation like gay pride, will take much time and effort. Instead, it was organised (on purpose or not) that way that some people probably felt something they didn't like was being imposed on them, so they protested. However, having seen enough street riots in Belgrade in my lifetime, I can vouch the crimes were committed not by ordinary Serbian citizens but by a bunch of everpresent retarded hooligans and, more importantly, by the rent-a-mob that's used for everything here. Majority of people in Serbia (however, not in Belgrade) are indeed conservative, but they are not violent psychos who would attack people only because of their sexual orientation. Despite all the conservatism, a gay community has always been present here and some very powerful people from the world of art (primarily) have always been openly gay and no one cared.
What I meant to say is that the situation for gay people here is not as dismal as it may look from this incident (it's actually equally dismal for everyone :lol::help:), and that it all should be taken with a pinch of salt.
I hope it was some consolation. I'm also certain a lot of people will end up in jail for this, although I don't think it'll be the right ones, if you get my meaning. :sad:

I just consider that the Balkans and most of the rest of the former Eastern bloc are at a different place when it comes to gay rights. I've also heard a lot about the "nationalist" angle, which is obviously a bit harder to understand without being a resident there or following too closely. But I do know that these people that were there hate homosexuals. They chanted "death to homosexuals" over and over. Perhaps they fail to extricate any two things they don't understand from each other...homosexuality + whatever other issues they have with the current state of government there. I don't know, but it's a disgusting display.

I'm happy that there was finally a parade there though, and of course I don't believe most Serbians are like this. The society there will just have to get to a point where it won't tolerate these people on a daily basis, and I'm sure that will happen in the future. Thanks for shedding some light on the matter.

Brena
Oct 10th, 2010, 09:05 PM
I just consider that the Balkans and most of the rest of the former Eastern bloc are at a different place when it comes to gay rights. I've also heard a lot about the "nationalist" angle, which is obviously a bit harder to understand without being a resident there or following too closely. But I do know that these people that were there hate homosexuals. They chanted "death to homosexuals" over and over. Perhaps they fail to extricate any two things they don't understand from each other...homosexuality + whatever other issues they have with the current state of government there. I don't know, but it's a disgusting display.

I'm happy that there was finally a parade there though, and of course I don't believe most Serbians are like this. The society there will just have to get to a point where it won't tolerate these people on a daily basis, and I'm sure that will happen in the future. Thanks for shedding some light on the matter.

I think that would be a crowd that consisted of: hormonal teenagers who saw this a s a way to assert they ''masculinity'' or whatever, football hoolingans whose only purpose in life is to taunt or beat up someone, and the rent-a-mob in service of different political organisations.
I sadly know a lot of people who opposed the manifestation but would never dream of going out in the street to shout abuses at anyone, but also most of the younger people I know attended it to support it.
IMO, gay community in Serbia was very much wronged and badly used by the organisers of this event, on purpose or not I'm not sure. It should be done properly, like the Amsterdam Gay pride which was one of the most fun events I have ever attended, but it'll take some more years of wise planning and preparation here.

Bruno71
Oct 10th, 2010, 09:26 PM
I think that would be a crowd that consisted of: hormonal teenagers who saw this a s a way to assert they ''masculinity'' or whatever, football hoolingans whose only purpose in life is to taunt or beat up someone, and the rent-a-mob in service of different political organisations.
I sadly know a lot of people who opposed the manifestation but would never dream of going out in the street to shout abuses at anyone, but also most of the younger people I know attended it to support it.
IMO, gay community in Serbia was very much wronged and badly used by the organisers of this event, on purpose or not I'm not sure. It should be done properly, like the Amsterdam Gay pride which was one of the most fun events I have ever attended, but it'll take some more years of wise planning and preparation here.

I have to think it'd be tough for them to emulate Amsterdam pride in Serbia. Amsterdam makes San Francisco look socially conservative :lol:

The thing I guess I don't quite understand is...we certainly have these people here in the USA too. Sports hooligans, etc. But they don't go out and bash people en masse. I guess this nationalism thing just brings them together in some way.

Slutiana
Oct 10th, 2010, 09:27 PM
What happened? :eek:

Bruno71
Oct 10th, 2010, 09:47 PM
What happened? :eek:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/10/serbia-gay-pride-parade-riots_n_757329.html

-NAJ-
Oct 10th, 2010, 10:00 PM
It was expected:shrug:
But we need to take this as a part of process to be better and more tolerant to other people.

At gay pride nobody was attacked, in steets neer there was fight beween police and hoolingans.I think nobody from neutral citizens or people who were at gay pride wasn't hurt or something like that, only hoolingans and police.

I don't care about who is gay , i don't see how someone who is gay can endanger me. Live your life and leave others to live theirs. People who don't like homosexuals also have right to say that they don't aprove homosexuality but they need to do that on peaceful way not like this.

btw all three sides( gay pride organizers, state and hoolingans) are guilty for this.

дalex
Oct 10th, 2010, 10:10 PM
What happened? :eek:

Oh just another bad day in Serbia... This time the gay pride was an excuse for hooligans and extremists to demolish the city center. In a month or two there'll be another reason. Probably when Mladic gets arrested. :lol:

http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/tema-dana/Bekstvo-huligana-na-Kalemegdan.sr.html

Hooligans' escape to Kalemegdan

A small group of hooligans found refuge in the downtown park and then returned to Prince Michael's street - Politika's reporter followed them...

"Let's go bro, down there - to the guns! There's a stack over there! Come the fuck on, what's wrong with you...", a young man in a black sweatsuit with a hood invited 6 of his buddies to go to the Kalemegdan park. Politika's reporter went after them.

Tear gas dispersed this group of twenty-something guys, just like the tens of other hooligans, from the Prince Michael's street in city center where they were destroying shop windows, threatening to the people passing bye and preparing to attack policemen.

The small group of offenders broke away from the enraged mass. They took their hoods off so they wouldn't look suspicious. They passed unnoticed before the City Library. They crossed the street and headed towards their "stack". But it wasn't over, they were planning to go back.

"Bro, if we're going back we'll need at least a liter of brandy. You know, so we feel extracool when we go back", his 'comrade' said back while he was removing the scarf from his face. He can remove the face protection 'cos they're no longer in danger, for now.

Twenty minutes passed and they're back. They took the same route. But they don't even mention the Gay Pride anymore. They only need the violence. And while they're strolling confidently through the Prince Michael's street, cursing and threatening loudly, they meet their buddies.

- What's up, bro? - they ask one of them.

- Ice cream, bro! - he responds.

- Where the fuck is it?

They fast went through the now diluted tear gas, headed for the "feast" in front of the Academy of Science, where tens of hooligans grabbed icy sweets from a broken fridge. The reason they came to the city center in the first place was now long forgotten.

The situation calmed down while they were at their stack. They leave disappointed. They go through Cika Ljubina and Kolarceva streets.

- Should we go inside so we don't provoke them? What do you think? - a nearby bank's security guard asked his colleague.

- You're right. Let's go inside, just in case - he responded.

They went inside, and the hooligans who escaped the justice headed to their homes. They didn't even see the banner that another young man was showing to them and other hooligans: "Can all the fa**ots please let the gays to walk!"

And then Prince Michael's and Kolarceva streets started to look like it's just another Sunday afternoon. But just walking by revealed that there was a street war earlier. Scattered garbage cans. Containers with smoldering fire. The smell of arson. Damaged shop windows. And the pavement in Prince Michael's street was even missing plenty of stone cubes that the hooligans took out. They were thrown at the policemen, nearby shops...

And in the opposite part of the town - a different picture. A 27 year old D.T., one of the participants in the Pride Parade came home long time ago. He couldn't believe his eyes nor what he was seeing on TV screen.

- The Pride is over and they're still breaking the city and fighting police. It's clear they're not doing it because of us. They couldn't care less about the Parade. What is it in our culture so we prefer two guys to hold their weapons instead of holding their hands?, he briefly responded to this reporter's call.

Brena
Oct 10th, 2010, 10:18 PM
I have to think it'd be tough for them to emulate Amsterdam pride in Serbia. Amsterdam makes San Francisco look socially conservative :lol:

Probably, but if the event included so much imagination and fun, I think it would be accept much more easily. I bet even the worst football hooligans would love some of the drag-acts and masquerading i saw in Amsterdam. :lol:

The thing I guess I don't quite understand is...we certainly have these people here in the USA too. Sports hooligans, etc. But they don't go out and bash people en masse. I guess this nationalism thing just brings them together in some way.


Nah, nationalism has been thrown around as an explanation for everything since the wars in ex-Yugoslavia. I can't be completely impartial, of course, since I'm Serbian myself, and Alex, Ma, Danilo, NAJ and other Serbian posters are welcome to share their opinions on this subject, but IMHO there is much more nationalism in some other ex-Yu countries than has ever been in Serbia. On the other hand, I'm also pretty sure that there are more people who don't support Gay Pride than those who do. BUT, not supporting something is one thing, abusing people or trashing your own city is something completely different. Normal grown-up people do not resort to gratuitious violence, so, as I said, I think (and hope) the mob consisted of the three categories I mentioned and that they were brought together by sheer imbecility and/or lack of moral integrity and nothing else.
The attitude of an average (middle-aged or elderly) Serbian citizen towards the Gay Pride is, I think, the very one my dad (unfortunately) has: if asked, he'll firmly state he despises such events, so he decided not to have his usual Sunday downtown stroll in case someone might think he's gay. :lol::sobbing: And yet, he has gay friends and colleagues, and he obviously accepts them without giving their sexual preferences a second thought. So I guess the things will change with the change of generations.

Bruno71
Oct 10th, 2010, 10:30 PM
Nah, nationalism has been thrown around as an explanation for everything since the wars in ex-Yugoslavia. I can't be completely impartial, of course, since I'm Serbian myself, and Alex, Ma, Danilo, NAJ and other Serbian posters are welcome to share their opinions on this subject, but IMHO there is much more nationalism in some other ex-Yu countries than has ever been in Serbia. On the other hand, I'm also pretty sure that there are more people who don't support Gay Pride than those who do. BUT, not supporting something is one thing, abusing people or trashing your own city is something completely different. Normal grown-up people do not resort to gratuitious violence, so, as I said, I think (and hope) the mob consisted of the three categories I mentioned and that they were brought together by sheer imbecility and/or lack of moral integrity and nothing else.
The attitude of an average (middle-aged or elderly) Serbian citizen towards the Gay Pride is, I think, the very one my dad (unfortunately) has: if asked, he'll firmly state he despises such events, so he decided not to have his usual Sunday downtown stroll in case someone might think he's gay. :lol::sobbing: And yet, he has gay friends and colleagues, and he obviously accepts them without giving their sexual preferences a second thought. So I guess the things will change with the change of generations.

OK, but what you're describing makes it sound like the reaction was visceral. It seems to me that this group of people was constantly threatening to cause problems at this event, thus it was canceled in years past. It leads me to believe that whatever the motives, this is an organized, pre-meditated effort. And that's scary.

Of course, we have reactions here as well, but they carry signs not weapons. Usually.

Bruno71
Oct 10th, 2010, 10:36 PM
It was expected:shrug:
But we need to take this as a part of process to be better and more tolerant to other people.

At gay pride nobody was attacked, in steets neer there was fight beween police and hoolingans.I think nobody from neutral citizens or people who were at gay pride wasn't hurt or something like that, only hoolingans and police.

I don't care about who is gay , i don't see how someone who is gay can endanger me. Live your life and leave others to live theirs. People who don't like homosexuals also have right to say that they don't aprove homosexuality but they need to do that on peaceful way not like this.

btw all three sides( gay pride organizers, state and hoolingans) are guilty for this.

Can you tell me how the organizers are guilty here?

дalex
Oct 10th, 2010, 10:43 PM
I have no idea what is the problem. My guess is overall depression and desperation of young people in Serbia. They see no future so they turn to drugs and hooliganism so they feel cool, strong and important among other uneducated fools like them. I agree with Zoja it's not about nationalism, it's just a small part of it all. They know nothing about anything, but when they're in their group they feel as if they know everything about everything because they have a few leaders who instruct them on what is it they should protest against... And who is it that instructs and organizes their leaders and creates the agenda... no one knows yet, or they pretend not to know. :lol:

They're very well organized and the system works so slow here. Some of these organizations are very well known and should have been banned long time ago, but weren't, so there's probably some political background as well. The justice is slow too, but hopefully things are going in the right direction at least.

дalex
Oct 10th, 2010, 10:59 PM
Of course, we have reactions here as well, but they carry signs not weapons. Usually.

Because people have jobs there or they know they will have a job and they'll be able to earn for living. Serbia's been in such a deep shit for a decade of wars and then came the transition and financial crisis. It's still a fertile ground for extremist organizations. And I think what NAJ meant about pride organizers being partly guilty is just that - these extreme organizations are still very strong and basically everyone knew something like this would happen. Some people think organizers should have waited 'cos they had almost nothing to gain, surrounded by thousands of policemen and safety rings so the hooligans can't attack them. How free and equal does such heavily guarded event make them?

But, I disagree... At least the government showed its willingness to defend the laws of this country no matter the consequences and will deal with the problem more adequately from now on hopefully. And the gay community enjoyed their constitutional rights, so I guess it's something... a start.

ChriS.
Oct 10th, 2010, 11:00 PM
The riot made the news in England. Surely this sort of stuff stopped happening in most civilised countries many years ago (probably about 20 in the UK)? Obviously every city has its hooligans but I am surprised this sort of thing could happen in Serbia. It just shows that countries in Europe which to me all look much the same are not really.

Brena
Oct 10th, 2010, 11:03 PM
OK, but what you're describing makes it sound like the reaction was visceral. It seems to me that this group of people was constantly threatening to cause problems at this event, thus it was canceled in years past. It leads me to believe that whatever the motives, this is an organized, pre-meditated effort. And that's scary.

Of course, we have reactions here as well, but they carry signs not weapons. Usually.

No, no, you didn't understand me, but it's a bit of a long story that's hard to explain other then by what Alex said above. I'm quite positive it was completely pre-mediated and organised. Perhaps it was a visceral response by a bunch of immature stupid teenagers who think that being manly is being aggressive, but the rest came to cuase trouble and violence, and it's indeed both scary and depressing. However, I don't think it had much to do with this particular event or gay people in general, but simply with causing havoc. Why? I don't know except that all kinds of political organisations needed it for their own purposes. Serbia is in a lot, and I mean A LOT of trouble. We virtually have no industry anymore, people over 50 are getting laid off without any chance for a new job or a pension, the country is falling apart (Kosovo still needs an official recognition, some other regions are on the verge of conflict), a university diploma is worth nothing etc. So, it takes a little for chaos and violence to erupt. And politicians know that very well and use it. And since I've witnessed several of similar riots (with different ''causes'') during the years, I can assure you that the scenario and the hooligans/rent-a-mob is always the same and is used for same purposes - giving someone a political lever for something. Fpr example, on Tuesday we're being visited by delightful Mrs. Clinton herself and she naturally won't be veyr pleased to hear about this. And since she's coming to pull some ears and give some orders to our inept ''government'', our politicians will be actually very happy to inform us that they had to make concessions beacuse of us, Serbian citizens, who are so ''homophobic and violent''. Or, some other anti-government parties will use this chaos to assure people that gay pride, supported by the government, is something bad and dangeorus since it causes violence.

Those are just my guesses of course, and don't think I'm trying to defend the perpetrators or belittle the problems of the gay community, but to try to explain how it's possible for something that ugly to happen and that the scenes you saw don't really have much to do either with gay pride or gay and straight Serbian citizens. They have to do with the political and economic chaos Serbia has been in for quite some time and teh political opportunists who always emerge in such situations.

Bruno71
Oct 10th, 2010, 11:08 PM
OK, well I think I'm getting a bit of a clearer picture. It just seems like a bit of chaos.

Of course, from my perspective, I'm glad the gay pride happened. Not that people got hurt of course, but if minority groups keep recoiling from these kinds of threats, they will remain oppressed and the idiots will win. I hope the government cracks down on these people like they said, and maybe some order will result. I don't mean to put anyone in Serbia on the defensive, as I said before I think this is a unique situation that most there would want to avoid. It's sad that most would probably be against a gay pride happening, but that's their prerogative to think that way. Unfortunately, some are taking it further, which is against the law and highly immoral. I look forward to the punishments.

Brena
Oct 10th, 2010, 11:21 PM
Can you tell me how the organizers are guilty here?

I suppose NAJ meant what Alex said - that you can't change attitudes overnight and they should have prepared the grounds gradually and patiently. That way they would gain more supporters and wouldn't risk anyone getting beaten by the hooligans who were bound to come.
But there's another reason I disaprove of the organisers - beacuse most of them are political opportunists who got into the whole story not because they really want to protect right of the gay people in Serbia but because they want easymoney. And there's a lot of money coming in from abroad to Serbian NGOs that deal with the ''protection'' of different human rights. I happen to know several people who work for thsoe organisations (one of them was involved in the organisation the gay pride), and I can tell you that those are the worst low-life scums I have ever had the displeasure of meeting in my life (one of them is my first cousin... :sad:) They do not give a damn about protecting anyone's rights, they are just demagogues who use the omnipresent confusion to snatch as much money as possible before the sittuation in Serbia normalises and they lose their positions. I am not a violent person (although I did hit Alex over the head once, but he's terribly annoying as you already know) but I swear I've been tempted to beat up this one guy I know just for being the immoral, repellant, fraudulent opportunist he is.

-NAJ-
Oct 10th, 2010, 11:23 PM
Can you tell me how the organizers are guilty here?

they were part of that. everyone who was part of this takes responsibility on one way. Of course they are not guilty like that hooligans(no excuse for them)
also they knew(we all knew) that there will be problems like this, all and even with that they didn't said " ok these crazy people will destroy city makes the damage for citizens. we need be to think again is it really worth to organize parade in this moment.

I know that if they delayed parde that would be defeat for them and they did not want to be blackmailed.

but if you want to some things to be changed in right way you must take baby steps and be ready for compromise not giant steps

дalex
Oct 10th, 2010, 11:23 PM
I look forward to the punishments.

I think most people here do too, even those against the gay pride. Huge majority of people are just sick of the violence even if they don't like gays, or don't like the government, or US and EU politics regarding Kosovo, or whatever.

Brena
Oct 10th, 2010, 11:27 PM
OK, well I think I'm getting a bit of a clearer picture. It just seems like a bit of chaos.

Of course, from my perspective, I'm glad the gay pride happened. Not that people got hurt of course, but if minority groups keep recoiling from these kinds of threats, they will remain oppressed and the idiots will win. I hope the government cracks down on these people like they said, and maybe some order will result. I don't mean to put anyone in Serbia on the defensive, as I said before I think this is a unique situation that most there would want to avoid. It's sad that most would probably be against a gay pride happening, but that's their prerogative to think that way. Unfortunately, some are taking it further, which is against the law and highly immoral. I look forward to the punishments.

Oh, I know. Sorry for all these esseys I wrote, but both the today's events and the picture of Serbia people get sadden me so much. :awww:
It is all very confusing and ugly and doesn't bode well for us at all. However, if there's one thing I can do it's to promise to run for the artistic director of a proper gay pride one day. I just got so many ideas for the programme in Amsterdam! :sobbing:

Bruno71
Oct 10th, 2010, 11:29 PM
they were part of that. everyone who was part of this takes responsibility on one way. Of course they are not guilty like that hooligans(no excuse for them)
also they knew(we all knew) that there will be problems like this, all and even with that they didn't said " ok these crazy people will destroy city makes the damage for citizens. we need be to think again is it really worth to organize parade in this moment.

I know that if they delayed parde that would be defeat for them and they did not want to be blackmailed.

but if you want to some things to me changed in right way you must take baby steps and be ready for compromise not giant steps

I'd need to "feel" the situation in Serbia better, but I just don't believe there's a baby step to be had here. What would that be, a demonstration in another city? Another country? An ad in the newspaper? This is the primary way that rights are gained...by outward, peaceful demonstration. You have to remember that LGBT citizens in most places still do not have equal rights, and Serbia is obviously no exception. Otherwise, these hooligans win, and win forever.

Bruno71
Oct 10th, 2010, 11:36 PM
Oh, I know. Sorry for all these esseys I wrote, but both the today's events and the picture of Serbia people get sadden me so much. :awww:
It is all very confusing and ugly and doesn't bode well for us at all. However, if there's one thing I can do it's to promise to run for the artistic director of a proper gay pride one day. I just got so many ideas for the programme in Amsterdam! :sobbing:

OMG do it! :lol:

дalex
Oct 10th, 2010, 11:48 PM
As for government cracking down on these people... well we can hope but not much will change (cracking or no cracking) until the government is able to finally insert much needed hope into the people. Much of that hope will depend on dear Hillary and whatever deal she makes (or doesn't!) with Serbian government over Kosovo, and whether US can consequently influence Netherlands to agree with Serbia becoming an official EU membership candidate. That would in turn bring some stability to the country, continuation of installment of EU standards, a better environment for foreign investments, more money, more jobs... In theory at least. :lol:

ms_nut
Oct 11th, 2010, 12:31 AM
:scared: Holy mother of god, that's some scary stuff... Molotov cocktails??!!

NAJ, I understand what you mean when you say baby steps, but isn't Serbia a democracy? Aren't people allowed to hold parades? If the hooligans wanted to protest peacefully, that's fine, but to resort to violence. :o. Usually these things are rampant when people are jobless, dissatisfied and not educated and tend to involve politics. I'm guessing things are not going that great in Serbia, economy wise as well. (:angel: pardon my ignorance, but much of what I know of Serbia is learned from this forum).

-NAJ-
Oct 11th, 2010, 01:20 AM
Serbia is democratic country, but events like this are marked as events of high risk and police did good job to make people on parade safe and they did. Nobody there was hurt.
But hooligans attacked police on other places in city and headed towards the center of some political parties and TV station.
10 years pased from big changes in Serbia and many things are now 10 x better but still people live difficult(over million people without job) and they expected more from politicians.
and here people get involve in politics mostly beacuse they will get job for someone in family when that party be elected in the elections on local level or higher.

Bruno71
Oct 11th, 2010, 06:26 AM
There's a lot of anger in the air even here in the US lately too. In Serbia these kind of street clashes/riots may be more common? I don't know. I hope things get better there...it's a tough road back from the war years and everything changing so drastically, but it has to get better soon.

MaBaker
Oct 11th, 2010, 07:23 AM
There's a lot of anger in the air even here in the US lately too. In Serbia these kind of street clashes/riots may be more common? I don't know. I hope things get better there...it's a tough road back from the war years and everything changing so drastically, but it has to get better soon.
For a few years it looked like it will get better soon, but it doesn't look like that now at all. There's too much negativity lately and this was definitely a bad time for a gay parade.
I agree with Zoja, that both sides were used by people who doesn't really give a shit about anything than getting more money.

Bruno71
Oct 11th, 2010, 08:55 AM
For a few years it looked like it will get better soon, but it doesn't look like that now at all. There's too much negativity lately and this was definitely a bad time for a gay parade.
I agree with Zoja, that both sides were used by people who doesn't really give a shit about anything than getting more money.

My impression is it's never a "good time" for a gay pride parade there. They've canceled it every year since 2001, because the government wouldn't afford adequate police protection until now. That is what I've read in the past, anyway.

дalex
Oct 11th, 2010, 10:19 AM
My impression is it's never a "good time" for a gay pride parade there. They've canceled it every year since 2001, because the government wouldn't afford adequate police protection until now. That is what I've read in the past, anyway.

Well that's kinda true, but since the new government got elected they clearly showed their willingness to organize the parade even last year, but the police reports showed that something like this would happen and that the city center would be demolished once again. So they decided not to go with it. This year it was the same but they went with it, and here's the problem. Like Zoja predicted, although most foreign media and officials praise the government and the police, there are already today news that this violence could influence negatively on Dutch decision on Serbian EU progress. Serbia probably has some of the best minority laws in Europe, but it takes money, time and foreign support to implement them fully.

And everything could be slowed down if the EU decision on October 25th is a negative one for Serbia. The Netherlands is the only EU member yet to be convinced due to their sensitivity over lack of Mladic's arrest ('cos Dutch soldiers stood aside while Mladic was separating Muslim men from women just before Srebrenica massacre) and this violence in Belgrade could be yet another excuse. Maybe there are people that are happy that this violence took place, and I can assure you no ordinary Serbian citizen is (unlike some anti EU, nationalistic and political organizations).

So things are VERY complicated and we'll just have to wait and see what happens. Police is doing their work now, there are reports that more than 60% of arrested people are not even from Belgrade and that a list of people who are thought to be the leaders of violent groups has been found on one arrested guy.

MaBaker
Oct 11th, 2010, 03:43 PM
My impression is it's never a "good time" for a gay pride parade there. They've canceled it every year since 2001, because the government wouldn't afford adequate police protection until now. That is what I've read in the past, anyway.
You're right, but what I meant is, this was particularly bad time for it, since there's a lot of tension in the country. People are both depressed and pissed about everything and, of course, our politicians don't do a lot to change that.

Safe-From-Harm
Oct 11th, 2010, 04:01 PM
Just wait and see what will happen if someone wants to organize that thing in Bosnia.
But I think, and I also think it's true, that this isn't happen beacuse just some trany wants to parade through the city. It's simpy hooligans are hoolingas, destructiv negativy monsters who demolish everything on the way to the ,,bottom''. Because they bring nothing good, and country can only go deep down with them.
Like Boney M's classic said, too many people are depressed and knock down so this kind of stuff was really expected. Next time it can be Mladic arrested, it will be the same, then it will be Kleybanova in playboy, will be the same. Sorry for last one, just want to make a joke into this blackness.
And at the end, don't blame one side, blame a little bit of both sides, but think positive for the future. I have my opinions about that ,,gay-pride'' and similar stuff, but I think it isn't important right now.

Optima
Oct 11th, 2010, 04:40 PM
Heard about all of this on the news too - I'm just glad a parade happened, and that the Serbian president and government are engaging in a conversation of being able to protect citizens who want to express themselves openly and freely...kudos to them :yeah: I hope Serbia continues to change.

Thanks to all the posters here who are helping such an uneducated American understand things better :lol: Such a complicated, difficult, and frustrating scenario, from every angle. :sad: Keep strong guys!

MB.
Oct 11th, 2010, 04:51 PM
Just wait and see what will happen if someone wants to organize that thing in Bosnia.

This :tape:

I was back in Bosnia this summer, and I always thought of Serbia as a bit more democratic and progress--if such riots happened in Belgrade, I can only imagine what would have happened in Sarajevo or elsewhere in Bosnia.

Heard about all of this on the news too - I'm just glad a parade happened, and that the Serbian president and government are engaging in a conversation of being able to protect citizens who want to express themselves openly and freely...kudos to them :yeah: I hope Serbia continues to change.

This is kind of the main point of it--Serbia's headed in the right direction, but it's not like in the US, where we can talk about having the government engage in conversations to further rights of specific groups, at least, not at any time of their choosing. It's much harder in Serbia because it's been hit so hard these last few years by the economic crisis (really, all of the Balkans have) and when you have so many unemployed and angry people (like a few other posters here put) it's much easier to incite them to riot. Their use of violence is a way of political activism, almost, and demonstrating their unhappiness with the current system and state of affairs.

The first step is to get the economy off the ground and everyone working again--once that happens, and the country becomes more advanced and progressive economically, the same will happen culturally.

Safe-From-Harm
Oct 11th, 2010, 05:01 PM
This :tape:

I was back in Bosnia this summer, and I always thought of Serbia as a bit more democratic and progress--if such riots happened in Belgrade, I can only imagine what would have happened in Sarajevo or elsewhere in Bosnia.



This is kind of the main point of it--Serbia's headed in the right direction, but it's not like in the US, where we can talk about having the government engage in conversations to further rights of specific groups, at least, not at any time of their choosing. It's much harder in Serbia because it's been hit so hard these last few years by the economic crisis (really, all of the Balkans have) and when you have so many unemployed and angry people (like a few other posters here put) it's much easier to incite them to riot. Their use of violence is a way of political activism, almost, and demonstrating their unhappiness with the current system and state of affairs.

The first step is to get the economy off the ground and everyone working again--once that happens, and the country becomes more advanced and progressive economically, the same will happen culturally.


So, You also have roots in my beautiful country?:lol:
And is that flag fake or You're really living the USA?
Then You can really feel the difference.

Bruno71
Oct 11th, 2010, 09:19 PM
Well that's kinda true, but since the new government got elected they clearly showed their willingness to organize the parade even last year, but the police reports showed that something like this would happen and that the city center would be demolished once again. So they decided not to go with it. This year it was the same but they went with it, and here's the problem. Like Zoja predicted, although most foreign media and officials praise the government and the police, there are already today news that this violence could influence negatively on Dutch decision on Serbian EU progress. Serbia probably has some of the best minority laws in Europe, but it takes money, time and foreign support to implement them fully.

You're right, but what I meant is, this was particularly bad time for it, since there's a lot of tension in the country. People are both depressed and pissed about everything and, of course, our politicians don't do a lot to change that.

I don't want to belabor the point here, I do understand what you guys are saying...but in the end I think this amounts to a certain level of blaming the victims. I guess everyone seems to try to deflect the "blame" off the LGBT marchers themselves, because we can somehow blame these organizers who for some reason have a political agenda other than LGBT rights. But the point should be: the march is for the marchers. I know if I lived in Belgrade as a gay man, I would want to be able to demonstrate for my rights, pure and simple. And the fact that this was a bad time in the sense of everything else chaotic going on doesn't change the fact that this is how it is every year. At some point, the LGBT citizens of Serbia have to say "enough is enough" and "we won't be put on the backburner anymore."

That said, I think they could've timed this better, maybe had it earlier in the summer further away from Hilary's visit.

Just wait and see what will happen if someone wants to organize that thing in Bosnia.
But I think, and I also think it's true, that this isn't happen beacuse just some trany wants to parade through the city. It's simpy hooligans are hoolingas, destructiv negativy monsters who demolish everything on the way to the ,,bottom''. Because they bring nothing good, and country can only go deep down with them.
Like Boney M's classic said, too many people are depressed and knock down so this kind of stuff was really expected. Next time it can be Mladic arrested, it will be the same, then it will be Kleybanova in playboy, will be the same. Sorry for last one, just want to make a joke into this blackness.
And at the end, don't blame one side, blame a little bit of both sides, but think positive for the future. I have my opinions about that ,,gay-pride'' and similar stuff, but I think it isn't important right now.

I assume in Bosnia the violence would maybe be much much worse? That's a shame, but at some point it'll have to be done there as well. Rights unfortunately need to be demanded.

In the transsexual community, "tranny" is considered a slur now. Just FYI.

Safe-From-Harm
Oct 11th, 2010, 09:27 PM
^ Yes, much much worse. We are strange hehe.
Well, I just use the word ,,tranny'' for escaping VERY serious writing and don't want to hurt someone's feelings.

Bruno71
Oct 11th, 2010, 09:54 PM
^ Yes, much much worse. We are strange hehe.
Well, I just use the word ,,tranny'' for escaping VERY serious writing and don't want to hurt someone's feelings.

I'm not sure if you don't to hurt someone's feelings or just get into an argument, but I certainly won't push that one :lol:

I hope even though it doesn't seem like it, things are beginning to get right in this area of the world. It takes time to get to a certain distance away from a violent recent past. I think from what I've seen in the last decade, all the Balkan countries are making some progress away from the horrors of the 90's. We now have Jelena Jankovic as proof :hearts:

дalex
Oct 11th, 2010, 10:09 PM
I don't want to belabor the point here, I do understand what you guys are saying...but in the end I think this amounts to a certain level of blaming the victims.

Not from me certainly. I was just portraying the political situation and yes, it includes "blaming the victims" on part of some political parties and even some in the government which is especially :tape:. And the political situation is such that some parties could benefit from this violence.

LGBT population is of course not guilty of anything but they live in the same country that won't be able to protect their rights any more than before unless the country is able to continue on its path towards EU membership, for which it also needs support from the US and EU member states. And things could easily become much worse for EVERYONE as the political situation is highly unstable. That's all I'm saying.

You're right Bruno, only Jeca can save us all! :hearts:

MB.
Oct 11th, 2010, 10:44 PM
So, You also have roots in my beautiful country?:lol:
And is that flag fake or You're really living the USA?
Then You can really feel the difference.

Well, I have roots in Serbia, Bosnia, and Croatia, but yes, I was born in Sarajevo and my grandparents both live there--whenever my family's in Europe we go over and see them (Oh, and yes, I've been living in the US since 1999 (Germany before that--only three years in Bosnia and Serbia, 1989-1992)).

You're right Bruno, only Jeca can save us all! :hearts:

Obviously, every country and person of every orientation needs to put their differences aside and worship the consistently hard-working, never in doubt Jelena Jankovic :worship:

Bruno71
Oct 12th, 2010, 12:32 AM
I wish Jeca would just go about saving us all already. Sheesh, woman, how long have you had!

RFS
Oct 12th, 2010, 05:13 AM
I wish Jeca would just go about saving us all already. Sheesh, woman, how long have you had!

She is still young, you know ... She has plenty of time ... She will, you know, try her best...

MaBaker
Oct 12th, 2010, 08:54 AM
I don't want to belabor the point here, I do understand what you guys are saying...but in the end I think this amounts to a certain level of blaming the victims. I guess everyone seems to try to deflect the "blame" off the LGBT marchers themselves, because we can somehow blame these organizers who for some reason have a political agenda other than LGBT rights. But the point should be: the march is for the marchers. I know if I lived in Belgrade as a gay man, I would want to be able to demonstrate for my rights, pure and simple. And the fact that this was a bad time in the sense of everything else chaotic going on doesn't change the fact that this is how it is every year. At some point, the LGBT citizens of Serbia have to say "enough is enough" and "we won't be put on the backburner anymore."
If it was up to me, you wouldn't have to demonstrate for your rights. But the problem here in Serbia, is that, since 2001, when all those people were beaten, no one did a lot to educate people and teach them tolerance toward differences, and in this case toward gay people. This is a place where you have to do things gradually, especially with this kind of issue. Believe it or not, a lot of people here still think that homosexuality is a disease that can actually spread around, that gay people are the one who're destroying families etc, and no one is putting any effort in changing that. LGBT community did almost nothing, politicians don't give a crap about anything but getting more money and making people fight with each other, our church basically depends on uneducated people and were practically backing the riot before Sunday... I guess my point is, you can't just organize one parade, then for the next 10 years do absolutely nothing about making people more understending and then force another parade. And as I said before, this was a really bad time to force something like that, that's why I was against it. But I don't blame the marchers, I blame those idiots who organized it because they didn't do it for the marchers' sake, I blame idiots who were supporting the riot and those idiots who were crashing the city. I blame Serena too, for letting Caro be no.1.

Oh and yeah, Jeja will save us all :worship: Or kill us all, whatever.

Safe-From-Harm
Oct 12th, 2010, 09:46 AM
Someone asks on other topic was JJ one of the hooligans?
haha

Brena
Oct 12th, 2010, 10:34 AM
Someone asks on other topic was JJ one of the hooligans?
haha

All the hooligans in Sebia are ancitards, naturally. :)

braindead -> hooligan
braindead -> ancitard
--------------------
hooligan -> ancitard

And they all also like Caro Wozniacki.

Safe-From-Harm
Oct 12th, 2010, 03:23 PM
When You talking about Ana, i just remembered i read in Press something about her.
she said that her best friends from tennis world are: Kuznetsova, Kirilenko, Djokovic, Tipsarevic and Daniela H. ( hmm what was with that AO incident?)...
So, i wonder and wonder.... who's missing on the list?
Not Arvidsson, not Cirstea,.... do You know?
I think we cheer for her.

дalex
Oct 12th, 2010, 03:32 PM
Hillary has come :hearts:

She seems strangely impressed (video here (http://www.rts.rs/page/stories/ci/story/1/%D0%A1%D1%80%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0/778750/%D0%9A%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BE%D 0%B2%D0%B0+%D1%83+%D0%91%D0%B5%D0%BE%D0%B3%D1%80%D 0%B0%D0%B4%D1%83.html)) by the Palace Serbia (Palace of the Federation in former Yugoslavia). :lol:

http://www.evropesma.org/files/images/palata-federacije-RESIZE-s925-s450-fit.preview.jpg

Brena
Oct 12th, 2010, 03:36 PM
Hillary has come :hearts:

She seems strangely impressed (video here (http://www.rts.rs/page/stories/ci/story/1/%D0%A1%D1%80%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0/778750/%D0%9A%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BE%D 0%B2%D0%B0+%D1%83+%D0%91%D0%B5%D0%BE%D0%B3%D1%80%D 0%B0%D0%B4%D1%83.html)) by the Palace Serbia (Palace of the Federation in former Yugoslavia). :lol:

http://www.evropesma.org/files/images/palata-federacije-RESIZE-s925-s450-fit.preview.jpg

She's probably confused how come Billy didn't bomb it to ashes.

дalex
Oct 12th, 2010, 03:45 PM
She's probably confused how come Billy didn't bomb it to ashes.

Gurl they missed, that's how the Chinese embassy got hit.

Brena
Oct 12th, 2010, 04:19 PM
Gurl they missed, that's how the Chinese embassy got hit.

Weren't they looking for Sloba in the Chinese embassy? I've heard they thought he had popped by for some noodles so they wanted to make sure they were properly fried.

дalex
Oct 12th, 2010, 04:32 PM
Follow me to my bed... uhm... office, dear Hillary.

http://www.blic.rs/data/images/2010-10-12/81336_tadic-klinton9201-reuter-ivan-milutinovic_origh.jpg

Oooh, I'm so exciting, Mr. President.

http://www.blic.rs/data/images/2010-10-12/81337_tadic-klinton201-reuter-marko-djurica_origh.jpg

Hopefully Tadic will satisfy her completely. :hehehe:

-NAJ-
Oct 12th, 2010, 04:36 PM
Hopefully Tadic will satisfy her completely. :hehehe:

No, that's his job
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/5333/velimirilic498.jpg

:haha:

Safe-From-Harm
Oct 12th, 2010, 04:37 PM
Okay, where is Ana to take a pic with her?

Just Do It
Oct 12th, 2010, 04:40 PM
Hillary in Serbia for the first time ? :bowdown:
They make sure she sees ruined buildings in Belgrade.

JJ's biatch
Oct 12th, 2010, 06:10 PM
I love her, but only today!:hearts: all classes at my department were canceled due to safety concerns :hearts: she should come more often!

Yilongru
Oct 12th, 2010, 06:36 PM
Gurl they missed, that's how the Chinese embassy got hit.

:sad:Forever hurt.

Yilongru
Oct 12th, 2010, 06:39 PM
http://www.blic.rs/data/images/2010-10-12/81336_tadic-klinton9201-reuter-ivan-milutinovic_origh.jpg

Why your president is White-hair:lol:and he looks so cool.

Just Do It
Oct 12th, 2010, 06:42 PM
Why your president is White-hair:lol:and he looks so cool.

He's the George Clooney of Serbia.
http://www.niktitanik.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/tadic&berlusconi.jpg

:happy:

Yilongru
Oct 12th, 2010, 06:46 PM
He's the George Clooney of Serbia.
http://www.niktitanik.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/tadic&berlusconi.jpg

:happy:

:lol:congratulations

Brena
Oct 12th, 2010, 07:12 PM
:sad:Forever hurt.

I hope China never forgets about it.

Brena
Oct 13th, 2010, 01:13 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/10/13/article-0-0B98A353000005DC-660_306x423.jpg

We used to sit next to each other in the elementary school. He even fancied me when we were 10 or 11 and gave me a football scarf and some punk music cassettes. :sobbing:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1320121/Serbia-thrown-Euro-2012-UEFA-open-investigation.html

Daruma.
Oct 13th, 2010, 01:25 PM
Wow, Lepa Brena, you must be imprisoned for ruining one's life. :tears:

-NAJ-
Oct 13th, 2010, 01:27 PM
Do you still have that scarf?


iUgeAyBdPSE

Brena
Oct 13th, 2010, 01:50 PM
Wow, Lepa Brena, you must be imprisoned for ruining one's life. :tears:

Ruining? :tears: The worst thing is that he's never been an evil person. He's brother is completely normal and a very successful artist, his mother is a wonderful lady whom I love dearly, but I'm afraid his intelligence remained a little underdeveloped, he was never able to learn how to read properly and couldn't get any sort of high school degree so with too much time on his hands he's become a professional hooligan. But he's always nice to all of his old schoolfriends. When I met him once we chatted a little and he told me that if someone ever bothers me just to tell him and he'll take care of that person. :hysteric:
I feel terrible for his mum, the poor woman will go insane...

Do you still have that scarf?

Probably. It was a FC Rad scarf, he was a skinhead back then. :sobbing:

MB.
Oct 13th, 2010, 03:28 PM
Wait, you actually went to school with him? How insane is that...

what year were you born, if I may ask?

Brena
Oct 13th, 2010, 03:31 PM
Wait, you actually went to school with him? How insane is that...

what year were you born, if I may ask?

Yeah, we're neighbours.
1980, vintage year as you can see...

дalex
Oct 13th, 2010, 03:52 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/10/13/article-0-0B98A353000005DC-660_306x423.jpg

We used to sit next to each other in the elementary school. He even fancied me when we were 10 or 11 and gave me a football scarf and some punk music cassettes. :sobbing:

When I met him once we chatted a little and he told me that if someone ever bothers me just to tell him and he'll take care of that person. :hysteric:

I can't... :happy:

Brena
Oct 13th, 2010, 04:02 PM
I can't... :happy:

Shuddup. If he ever gets out of jail I'll give him your name and address.

Daruma.
Oct 13th, 2010, 04:07 PM
Why don't you give him the list of top players and the ones JJ can't beat? :lol:

дalex
Oct 13th, 2010, 04:28 PM
Shuddup. If he ever gets out of jail I'll give him your name and address.

I'm just sayin' you could have been Mrs "Ivan The Terrible" now. :lol:

-NAJ-
Oct 13th, 2010, 04:29 PM
Why don't you give him the list of top players and the ones JJ can't beat? :lol:

:lol: maybe we should try with that tactic in 2011:haha:

Princeza
Oct 13th, 2010, 04:33 PM
We used to sit next to each other in the elementary school. He even fancied me when we were 10 or 11 and gave me a football scarf and some punk music cassettes. :sobbing:


:tears:

JJ's biatch
Oct 13th, 2010, 05:15 PM
When I met him once we chatted a little and he told me that if someone ever bothers me just to tell him and he'll take care of that person. :hysteric:

Ajde!

MaBaker
Oct 13th, 2010, 05:42 PM
When I met him once we chatted a little and he told me that if someone ever bothers me just to tell him and he'll take care of that person. :hysteric:
lol

GL Alex :jejacheer:
Why don't you give him the list of top players and the ones JJ can't beat? :lol:
That's not a bad idea at all.

Safe-From-Harm
Oct 13th, 2010, 06:34 PM
Yeah, we're neighbours.
1980, vintage year as you can see...

Really?
I thought here aren't older than 23,24.
And I thought I was the oldest:hysteric:

Brena
Oct 13th, 2010, 06:55 PM
Really?
I thought here aren't older than 23,24.
And I thought I was the oldest:hysteric:

I know. I'm infantile but half of this forum could be my grandchildren. Except for Ma, she's a couple of hundreds years old.

Safe-From-Harm
Oct 13th, 2010, 07:24 PM
I know. I'm infantile but half of this forum could be my grandchildren. Except for Ma, she's a couple of hundreds years old.

Really? She also?
But it is so good to see JJ has so mature fans.
The most mature ones on the forum.
Including me also:wavey:

Just Do It
Oct 13th, 2010, 07:30 PM
ohmy. I bet he's a JJ fan as well.

Bruno71
Oct 13th, 2010, 08:08 PM
If it was up to me, you wouldn't have to demonstrate for your rights. But the problem here in Serbia, is that, since 2001, when all those people were beaten, no one did a lot to educate people and teach them tolerance toward differences, and in this case toward gay people. This is a place where you have to do things gradually, especially with this kind of issue. Believe it or not, a lot of people here still think that homosexuality is a disease that can actually spread around, that gay people are the one who're destroying families etc, and no one is putting any effort in changing that. LGBT community did almost nothing, politicians don't give a crap about anything but getting more money and making people fight with each other, our church basically depends on uneducated people and were practically backing the riot before Sunday... I guess my point is, you can't just organize one parade, then for the next 10 years do absolutely nothing about making people more understending and then force another parade. And as I said before, this was a really bad time to force something like that, that's why I was against it. But I don't blame the marchers, I blame those idiots who organized it because they didn't do it for the marchers' sake, I blame idiots who were supporting the riot and those idiots who were crashing the city. I blame Serena too, for letting Caro be no.1.

Oh and yeah, Jeja will save us all :worship: Or kill us all, whatever.

Sorry I'm responding to this a little late. This makes sense because what you're telling me is there really is no good LGBT organization(s) that is effectively changing opinions in Serbia. Unfortunately, though, I think the marching has to come first...it's actually a way to increase the boldness on the minority side to stand up to society. You're often going to see gatherings like this before you see any real attempt at organized outreach to society, that's what I've noticed. I'm also sorry it feels forced on the people of Serbia, but I still don't know that there will ever be a "good" time.

I also think that the people of Serbia should take this opportunity to really study their attitudes towards homosexuality, for they're (as a whole) noticeably behind the EU countries in that regard, and it's affecting Serbia's membership probablities. I don't think the Netherlands' concern is just because of this one incident, but the history of oppression against LGBT in Serbia.

Then again, the Netherlands failed to protect a filmmaker from being killed in 2004, so they maybe shouldn't be ones to talk.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/10/13/article-0-0B98A353000005DC-660_306x423.jpg

We used to sit next to each other in the elementary school. He even fancied me when we were 10 or 11 and gave me a football scarf and some punk music cassettes. :sobbing:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1320121/Serbia-thrown-Euro-2012-UEFA-open-investigation.html

I.just.can't.believe.this. Zoja, how could you pass up such a prize? :lol:

MB.
Oct 13th, 2010, 08:09 PM
I know. I'm infantile but half of this forum could be my grandchildren. Except for Ma, she's a couple of hundreds years old.

Team 1980s :yeah:

Bruno71
Oct 13th, 2010, 08:11 PM
I know. I'm infantile but half of this forum could be my grandchildren. Except for Ma, she's a couple of hundreds years old.

I'm thinking Kampi & I have y'all beat.

Optima
Oct 13th, 2010, 08:20 PM
I was just thinking the other day about how old I already feel, even though I just turned 21... :unsure:

JJ's biatch
Oct 13th, 2010, 09:21 PM
I feel old as well.. and I'm still 19 :)

MB.
Oct 13th, 2010, 10:02 PM
Ditto, and I only turned 21 a week ago...how odd.

Or not, seeing as how 99% of posters on TF act like they're 12.

Slutiana
Oct 14th, 2010, 02:22 AM
Sat in on another Baby Anci interview. Even asked her a question. She was very excit(ing). :lol:

RFS
Oct 14th, 2010, 04:51 AM
I'm thinking Kampi & I have y'all beat.
And I think I'm older than u guys ... !!

-NAJ-
Oct 14th, 2010, 08:13 AM
Patricia Field was in Belgrade for fashion show.
VXwitINd2R0

Brena
Oct 14th, 2010, 11:06 AM
I.just.can't.believe.this. Zoja, how could you pass up such a prize? :lol:

Well, I must admit he's the only one from the generation to achieve some sort of international fame...
And I could actually imagine myself being a Mrs. Hooligan: I'd have a shaved head, my arms would be covered in ~ ♥ JJ ♥ ~ tattoos done in pink ink and I'd have vandalised at least a couple of tennis-courts by now, as well as JJ's red Porsche. :hearts:

Team 1980s :yeah:

:cheer:
I was kidding about Ma. She and Alex are younger than me.

Sat in on another Baby Anci interview. Even asked her a question. She was very excit(ing). :lol:

Oh noes, now you'll become a fan. :awww:

Safe-From-Harm
Oct 14th, 2010, 11:11 AM
Well, I must admit he's the only one from the generation to achieve some sort of international fame...
And I could actually imagine myself being a Mrs. Hooligan: I'd have a shaved head, my arms would be covered in ~ ♥ JJ ♥ ~ tattoos done in pink ink and I'd have vandalised at least a couple of tennis-courts by now, as well as JJ's red Porsche. :hearts:



:cheer:
I was kidding about Ma. She and Alex are younger than me.



Oh noes, now you'll become a fan. :awww:


Are You 3 living in the same town, I mean know each other in real life?
And I never got is Dalex boy or a girl:hysteric:

Brena
Oct 14th, 2010, 11:16 AM
Are You 3 living in the same town, I mean know each other in real life?
And I never got is Dalex boy or a girl:hysteric:

Yes, we all live in Belgrade. Dalex is Alex and he's a boy. I'm Zoja, and I'm a girl. Ma is a well-know Dorćol criminal so she's hiding her real name. We met each other for the first time a couple of years ago when Rozzie (RFS) came to Belgrade for a visit.

Safe-From-Harm
Oct 14th, 2010, 11:28 AM
Yes, we all live in Belgrade. Dalex is Alex and he's a boy. I'm Zoja, and I'm a girl. Ma is a well-know Dorćol criminal so she's hiding her real name. We met each other for the first time a couple of years ago when Rozzie (RFS) came to Belgrade for a visit.

Thanx for introduction.
You seems like a kind of ,,sekta''.:tape::lol:
And sorry for asking, Zoja is a real name?
Very unique, I must admit.

Jajaloo
Oct 14th, 2010, 11:30 AM
Zoja is a really cool name!

Safe-From-Harm
Oct 14th, 2010, 11:31 AM
^ yes, it is. I remember my mother read a book named ,,Zoja''.
From Danielle Steel?

Brena
Oct 14th, 2010, 11:49 AM
Thanx for introduction.
You seems like a kind of ,,sekta''.:tape::lol:

:sobbing:

And sorry for asking, Zoja is a real name?
Very unique, I must admit.

Zoja is a really cool name!

^ yes, it is. I remember my mother read a book named ,,Zoja''.
From Danielle Steel?

Hey thanks! Yes, it's my real name. It's a Slavic variation of Zoe. My parents wanted me to have a short and not too common name so I ended up with that. :lol:

Safe-From-Harm
Oct 14th, 2010, 12:02 PM
^ Great, so Daniela wrote a book thanks to You. xD
I never heard it before, so Your parents made a right choice.
And belive me I heard about very ,,strange'' names, also here.
Like Sandukan, Mashinka, Rinaldo. And other strange ones, but Yours sounds great comparing to these.

Wrekin
Oct 14th, 2010, 02:11 PM
And I think I'm older than u guys ... !!

Put me down for a few surplus years too :cool:

That's why things are all so mature on this forum :p

MB.
Oct 14th, 2010, 05:06 PM
Are You 3 living in the same town, I mean know each other in real life?
And I never got is Dalex boy or a girl:hysteric:

Yes, we all live in Belgrade. Dalex is Alex and he's a boy. I'm Zoja, and I'm a girl. Ma is a well-know Dorćol criminal so she's hiding her real name. We met each other for the first time a couple of years ago when Rozzie (RFS) came to Belgrade for a visit.

Woooooaaww that is trilling! You guys are like a real life gang (of JJ supporters) :eek:

Have any of you guys attended any of the Fed Cup/Davis cup ties? I've always wanted to attend one in Belgrade

Edit: just realized someone already said you were like a sect--incorporate that into my gang analogy.

-NAJ-
Oct 14th, 2010, 08:16 PM
3n7OBIXs27s

Bruno71
Oct 14th, 2010, 08:42 PM
And I think I'm older than u guys ... !!

I'll bet a 1971 and do you raise?

RFS
Oct 14th, 2010, 09:47 PM
I'll bet a 1971 and do you raise?

A little older.
Oh and y'all better wish me luck ... I applied for a couple of positions with the London 2012 Olympics Organising Committee. Having been in IBM since graduating uni 18 years ago - this is a huge step!

Bruno71
Oct 15th, 2010, 12:16 AM
A little older.
Oh and y'all better wish me luck ... I applied for a couple of positions with the London 2012 Olympics Organising Committee. Having been in IBM since graduating uni 18 years ago - this is a huge step!

Good luck Ros. Maybe you can meet JJ at the Olympics, underrepresenting Serbia :lol:

Optima
Oct 16th, 2010, 10:43 PM
I so wanna meet the famous Belgrade trio :sad:

Caralenko
Oct 17th, 2010, 02:11 AM
I so wanna meet the famous Belgrade trio :sad:

And dance Lepa Brena. :hearts:

Duge Noge!

MaBaker
Oct 17th, 2010, 07:30 AM
Except for Ma, she's a couple of hundreds years old.
I so wanna meet the famous Belgrade trio :sad:
Soon it will be the Belgrade duo.

-NAJ-
Oct 18th, 2010, 10:47 PM
Soon it will be the Belgrade duo.

why?

MaBaker
Oct 19th, 2010, 11:54 AM
^Because I'm going to push lepa brena off some bridge if she calls me ancient again :)

Jajaloo
Oct 19th, 2010, 12:40 PM
^Because I'm going to push lepa brena off some bridge if she calls me ancient again :)

MaBaker is a pusher! :eek:

-NAJ-
Oct 19th, 2010, 09:36 PM
^Because I'm going to push lepa brena off some bridge if she calls me ancient again :)

:secret:be careful, Ivan Bogdanov will get you in a locker room

Optima
Oct 19th, 2010, 10:54 PM
MaBaker is a pusher! :eek:

:rolls:

Princeza
Oct 20th, 2010, 07:43 AM
MaBaker is a pusher! :eek:

Like her favourite player :inlove:
http://cowbell.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83423e30253ef0134866fcb4a970c-350wi

Safe-From-Harm
Oct 20th, 2010, 11:19 AM
:secret:be careful, Ivan Bogdanov will get you in a locker room

Who is Ivan Bogdanov?
It seems like ,,Boney M's song'' hits like a man and can beat anyone.

MaBaker
Oct 20th, 2010, 12:14 PM
:secret:be careful, Ivan Bogdanov will get you in a locker room
lol, I bet that Zoja is more dangerous than him.
MaBaker is a pusher! :eek:
:rolls:
Like her favourite player :inlove:
Congratulations. You are all now on my push list :cw:

Brena
Oct 20th, 2010, 12:32 PM
lol, I bet that Zoja is more dangerous than him.

Well, thank you! :blush:

Slutiana
Oct 20th, 2010, 02:26 PM
JJ better win the YEC. The field is such a joke. :sobbing:

Safe-From-Harm
Oct 20th, 2010, 02:42 PM
Now I know who Ivan is.
:hysteric:

MB.
Oct 20th, 2010, 05:41 PM
JJ better win the YEC. The field is such a joke. :sobbing:

...unfortunately, she's part of the joke.

RFS
Oct 24th, 2010, 06:56 PM
Some of you might remember that I bought a house a couple of years ago - and the trials in getting it done up.

FINALLY - I present to you all:
The House That Rozzie Built (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231627@N04/collections/72157625104974245/)

Just Do It
Oct 25th, 2010, 11:48 AM
^ Nice kitchen. Pics :yeah:

However, sad news for Lepa Brena fans http://www.pressonline.rs/sr/vesti/dzet_set_svet/story/138068/Umro+otac+Lepe+Brene.html

дalex
Oct 25th, 2010, 12:03 PM
Some of you might remember that I bought a house a couple of years ago - and the trials in getting it done up.

FINALLY - I present to you all:
The House That Rozzie Built (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231627@N04/collections/72157625104974245/)

Looks great, Rozzie! What a huge change from the house you bought. Well done babe! :bowdown:

Slutiana
Oct 26th, 2010, 07:57 PM
Hey who's going to Belgrade next year? You guys should get press passes and invade the press room. :worship:

Brena
Oct 26th, 2010, 08:07 PM
Hey who's going to Belgrade next year? You guys should get press passes and invade the press room. :worship:

Are you coming??

Brena
Oct 26th, 2010, 08:10 PM
Some of you might remember that I bought a house a couple of years ago - and the trials in getting it done up.

FINALLY - I present to you all:
The House That Rozzie Built (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231627@N04/collections/72157625104974245/)

Hey, I missed this!
Great job, Ros! And you have a spare-room to put us up when we come over! :hehehe::lol:

Caralenko
Oct 27th, 2010, 06:28 AM
Are you coming??

You're not very subtle. http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ0WVSlThiK4jCA9Z1anPQFrdMQh7ymz 48CeAP29ZwHvUhmVJQ&t=1&usg=__-ayH6KVoFEByVXj5A7xAyglbPdI= You should've gone with something about showing him around town.

Slutiana
Oct 27th, 2010, 10:10 AM
Are you coming??
I can't. I really want to, but I have exams like right then. The only week I'm free for is the week of Stuttgart so I'll probably just go there. But I can still get you guys passes.

Brena
Oct 27th, 2010, 12:45 PM
You're not very subtle. http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ0WVSlThiK4jCA9Z1anPQFrdMQh7ymz 48CeAP29ZwHvUhmVJQ&t=1&usg=__-ayH6KVoFEByVXj5A7xAyglbPdI= You should've gone with something about showing him around town.

Naughty Cara. Are YOU coming?? :cheer:

I can't. I really want to, but I have exams like right then. The only week I'm free for is the week of Stuttgart so I'll probably just go there. But I can still get you guys passes.

:awww: Ah, shame. Thank you for the offer, but I don't think Ma and Alex are big fans of Nole's. :lol:

~Kiera~
Nov 5th, 2010, 04:29 PM
http://i53.tinypic.com/fctesp.jpg

RFS
Nov 5th, 2010, 06:33 PM
Try Googling directions from Japan to China and check out Direction #43

~Kiera~
Nov 5th, 2010, 09:14 PM
The people at Google have a sense of humour :lol:

Brena
Nov 5th, 2010, 09:32 PM
I had trouble figuring out where Philadelphia was... :sobbing: I need to watch more American TV shows to brush up my US geography.
But the directions are awesome! :worship:

Renalicious
Nov 8th, 2010, 08:07 AM
Hi, I'm Fred and I hope to post here more often in 2011. :awww: seeing as serena is now dead. http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4764/sneca1.gif

-NAJ-
Nov 8th, 2010, 09:15 AM
welcome Fred :wavey:

Renalicious
Nov 8th, 2010, 09:26 AM
Thank you :wavey: How are you? :D