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MinskLynx
Sep 3rd, 2002, 05:33 AM
I come from a country where even the presidential elections are fraudulent. And you expect a tournament to be transparent?

Thoughts?

Richie77
Sep 3rd, 2002, 05:47 AM
I'm starting to wonder...some of the matches at this year's U.S. Open are a little suspicious (Hello, Serena-Corina!)

nysaga
Sep 3rd, 2002, 06:06 AM
yeah..it's fixed. what do you want to do about it? lol

this thread is too silly.

Williams Rulez
Sep 3rd, 2002, 06:12 AM
Yeah for sure...

MinskLynx
Sep 3rd, 2002, 06:15 AM
If you three are all saying yes, how come there are 3 nos and my one yes sp far? :)

kournikovafan13
Sep 3rd, 2002, 06:17 AM
No.

Sam L
Sep 3rd, 2002, 06:19 AM
Watch the official draw ceremonies, you'll get your answer.

Dawn Marie
Sep 3rd, 2002, 08:22 AM
Without a doubt yes. Just cause someone is in the room does not mean it is not a fixed draw. Hell the computers could be fixed.

Come on at the US Open 2002 we have the following give aways:


Serena/Corina like get real. Corina was set up to play Serena to get her honourable mention of how she beat cancer. The tourney had to put her on during Opeining Night so in case she got beat by a no name on a side court.

All slams, put their up and coming junior players up against the top seed or top player to cause a rift or for experience. I mean it would do the tourney good if let's say a Laura Granville beat Hingis. they also do this to give them match experience. note: Last year Laura drew Hingis in first round. lmao

James Blake's first two rounds were not that hard for him. The tourney was hoping for a rematch but with Blake beating Hewitt. Get real, this was all planned out. lmao

Serena like has so many potential hard hitters in her half. Like how many Russians are on her side? Sure this isn't rigged to go the way they exactly plan it, but her loaded half is nuts.

Omg, like Lindsay's draw is so set up for her to at least make the semi-finals. get real.

Every country riggs draws, because in sports there is politics and cash invloved. I think Jelena hit the nail on the head. OZ pit her against Davenport to teach her a lesson, but it backfired on them.

Sports is a devious activity behind the closed doors, and how can one live on earth ad really not even think that the draws are not fixed. LMAO

By the by, I can give many more examples from all of 4 slams. Will post them as I remember the fixiations.:):)

nasty nick#2
Sep 3rd, 2002, 09:15 AM
:p zzzz

salima
Sep 3rd, 2002, 09:31 AM
I think it depends on who`s the organizers. For Wimbledon no for US-open where the comercial interest are ruling definately YES.

The Crow
Sep 3rd, 2002, 10:03 AM
Dawn, you're not Fox Mulder, are you? :p

Beat
Sep 3rd, 2002, 10:10 AM
yeah, I was also thinking: the truth is out there!

anyway, as far as the women are concerned, you'll always have the top seeds in the latter stages of a grandslam. and the players are seeded according to their rankings. you always know who's going to reach QF, and no rigged draw will change that.

Greenout
Sep 3rd, 2002, 10:35 AM
I think they are a bit tweaked. Why do we always
have draws were players from smaller tennis
countries somehow mysteriously get each other in
round 1, thus leaving only 1 player from that country
in the entire draw?

Why is it that in the something like Roland Garros;
all the American's tend to get bunched up in sections,
thus eliminating them in the draw?

ajayares
Sep 3rd, 2002, 10:43 AM
No and if you think they are, as mentioned above go and watch how the draws are done, fact is, not many are done by computer, so that arugment goes out the door..
Most of the draws are done by players drawing out the names, so are they fixing it now?? not likely..

Anyway, pointless arugment, its all about luck and everyone gets there fair share of so called "good draws" and "bad draws".

2284
Sep 3rd, 2002, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by Dawn Marie I think Jelena hit the nail on the head. OZ pit her against Davenport to teach her a lesson, but it backfired on them.

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Jelena was still playing for Australia at that stage. If the draw was "fixed", it would have been in her favour rather than against her

BritneySpearsIsHot
Sep 3rd, 2002, 12:22 PM
No. It's just an excuse for some people whose faves get tough draws. You gotta beat the best to win it anyway

Mikey
Sep 3rd, 2002, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by untitled2284


Jelena was still playing for Australia at that stage. If the draw was "fixed", it would have been in her favour rather than against her

yeah, i was thinking that too. why did australia wanna teach jelena a lesson? i mean, let's think about this. you have one of your up and coming stars there so you put them against a top seed? ahhh, that makes sense. the country WANTS to eliminate all of its players :rolleyes:

no, i dont think the draws are fixed. just watch the ceremonies. they are taped and witnessed for a reason.

the cat
Sep 3rd, 2002, 04:52 PM
Nyet Megan! The draws aren't fixed. What is this, professional wrestling or professional tennis? Of course the draws aren't fixed. Besides, an impartial player observes every draw to assure its honesty and integrity! :angel:

Come on Dawn! Gimme a break! Gimme a break! Break me off a piece of that Kit Kat bar! ;)

Beige
Sep 3rd, 2002, 05:03 PM
Oh absolutely. They decide everything from who wears what outfit down to who retires in what round. The players get fined if they forget the script. Daniela almost got reprimanded because she almost forgot to take the tumble against Justine.

The Crow
Sep 3rd, 2002, 05:04 PM
Even the rain is fixed.

vaiva
Sep 3rd, 2002, 05:15 PM
For those of you who are so naive and think that the presence of a player/anyone else could prevent the fixing of the draws I suggest to read Gabriel Garcia Marquez (sure you know the name, if not, do not continue reading the message). He gives the example on how to fix an un-fixable national lotterly. I think it's in the The Autumn of the Patriarch.

MinskLynx
Sep 3rd, 2002, 10:25 PM
Like I said, you think a tennis draw is something. How about fixing successfully national elections? Defying international powers like the EU?

PUH-LEASE:)

Dawn Marie
Sep 4th, 2002, 02:48 AM
Yes I am FOXY MULDER:):):)

Draws are teaked and fixed..:)

2284
Sep 4th, 2002, 02:50 AM
Originally posted by The Crow
Even the rain is fixed.

LMAO!

gentenaire
Sep 4th, 2002, 08:10 AM
How do you fix a draw? If it's by computer, yes, that can be done, but when they're pulling names out of a hat, how do you fix it? Too many people would have to be in on the game, would have to know about the rigging, it would eventually come out.

seibzhen
Sep 4th, 2002, 09:32 AM
I used to think the draws were fixed, then I realised (after a week into the tournament) that Monica Seles was to play Venus Williams AGAIN in a grandslam quarter final.

I'm not sure if this was the case at Wimbledon, but surely it isn't a coincidence. Once maybe, twice perhaps but three times?

gentenaire
Sep 4th, 2002, 09:37 AM
and Venus and Serena are on opposide sides of the draw for the third time in a row! That can't be a coincidence, it has to be fixed :rolleyes: ;)

-Sonic-
Sep 4th, 2002, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by Beige
Oh absolutely. They decide everything from who wears what outfit down to who retires in what round. The players get fined if they forget the script. Daniela almost got reprimanded because she almost forgot to take the tumble against Justine.

Ok this sounds fun :)

everyone.....
Stop bagging on Martina for having a crap serve - its just in the script.
Stop bagging on the naughty tennis daddies - they're in the script
Stop applauding your fav's mental strength - she's an actress.
Stop feeling bad about his/her injury - they leave the court and do a happy dance that they looked convincing.

heeheehee.

No, I do not believe draws are rigged in any way.

apart from the "allowable rigging" that is seeding. Which is nice.

irma
Sep 4th, 2002, 09:56 AM
no but wimbledon, a number 1 who meets the number 18 of the world twice in a row in the first round? that was sure rigged;)

Weevee
Sep 4th, 2002, 10:47 AM
Chance can WILL bring about unexpected results. Sometimes chance will make events happen as if they were planned. That is the nature of chance.

per4ever
Sep 4th, 2002, 10:53 AM
not fixed imo