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OZTENNIS
Mar 24th, 2009, 08:20 AM
'06 Wimbledon - Mauresmo def. Henin 2-6 6-3 6-4
'05 Wimbledon - V. Williams def. Davenport 4-6 7-6 9-7
'03 Wimbledon - S. Williams def. V. Williams 4-6 6-4 6-2
'02 Australian Open - Capriati def. Hingis 4-6 7-6 6-2
'01 French Open - Capriati def. Clijsters 1-6 6-4 12-10
'99 French Open - Graf def. Hingis 4-6 7-5 6-2
OTHER?

OZTENNIS
Mar 24th, 2009, 08:27 AM
I voted for Hingis/Graf 99 FO Final.
As a Hingis fan I was devastated but admired the qualities of a true champion in Graf.

This match had everything and was played like a proper tennis match should be..with skill, variation, precision and drama. None of the other matches come close in these departments IMO.
Second would be V.Williams vs. Davenport 05 W F...Power hitting at its best. High quality, suspense, lots of winners.

Josh.
Mar 24th, 2009, 08:29 AM
05' Wimbledon. :drool:

pollison
Mar 24th, 2009, 08:32 AM
Venus' 05, still the greatest moment in womens tennis IMO in recent memroy

Sexysova
Mar 24th, 2009, 08:34 AM
2005 :)

Renalicious
Mar 24th, 2009, 08:38 AM
I don't think your question is a good one...I mean, it's pretty clear that Wimbledon 2005 was a GREAT FINAL, if not the best, and it's also one of the most recent...so basically you narrowed your options to 2006 Wimbledon and 2005 Wimbledon - and it depends how you define 'truly great'. But it's pretty unanimous that if it's not the 2006 Wimby, it's 2005 Wimby. Who actually thinks 2005 Wimby Final wasn't great? A really small number of people I assume.

Anyway if you mean by 'classic' match, it's obviously 2005 Wimbledon, but if you mean a good final...it's probably 2008 US Open.

Golovinjured.
Mar 24th, 2009, 08:45 AM
What's with all the new threads, samsam?

Dave.
Mar 24th, 2009, 08:50 AM
I don't think your question is a good one...I mean, it's pretty clear that Wimbledon 2005 was a GREAT FINAL, if not the best, and it's also one of the most recent...so basically you narrowed your options to 2006 Wimbledon and 2005 Wimbledon - and it depends how you define 'truly great'. But it's pretty unanimous that if it's not the 2006 Wimby, it's 2005 Wimby. Who actually thinks 2005 Wimby Final wasn't great? A really small number of people I assume.

Anyway if you mean by 'classic' match, it's obviously 2005 Wimbledon, but if you mean a good final...it's probably 2008 US Open.

Exactly. I mean, people can argue the others were better, but you can't really say Wimbledon 05 WASN'T great, so that's the obvious answer.

Although I think Wimbledon 06 was pretty good too so that is potentially the most recent great grand slam final.

faboozadoo15
Mar 24th, 2009, 08:55 AM
The only thing the 2006 final has over the 2005 final is that it's more recent. The 2006 match is great though. 2005 is stellar.

madlove
Mar 24th, 2009, 09:02 AM
02 australian final! great great match

Ellen Dawson
Mar 24th, 2009, 09:36 AM
Wimbledon '05. Classic with a capital "C"!!

OZTENNIS
Mar 24th, 2009, 09:37 AM
I don't think your question is a good one...I mean, it's pretty clear that Wimbledon 2005 was a GREAT FINAL, if not the best, and it's also one of the most recent...so basically you narrowed your options to 2006 Wimbledon and 2005 Wimbledon - and it depends how you define 'truly great'. But it's pretty unanimous that if it's not the 2006 Wimby, it's 2005 Wimby. Who actually thinks 2005 Wimby Final wasn't great? A really small number of people I assume.

Anyway if you mean by 'classic' match, it's obviously 2005 Wimbledon, but if you mean a good final...it's probably 2008 US Open.
Clearly I meant great match. US Open 2008 was good, nowhere near great

Edinboro
Mar 24th, 2009, 09:40 AM
2005 Wimbledon

and

2008 US Open

Direwolf
Mar 24th, 2009, 10:22 AM
seriously...

AO 05 SF Masha vs Rena looks like a final
same as
USO 08 QF Rena n VEe

mr_burns
Mar 24th, 2009, 10:57 AM
usually would voted for RG 99, but it's a little too long ago, so I go for one of the Wimbledon ones
06 was the last great final, 05 was even better...but not the most recent good one

tennnisfannn
Mar 24th, 2009, 11:19 AM
seriously...

AO 05 SF Masha vs Rena looks like a final
same as
USO 08 QF Rena n VEe
There are probably more sfs that have been much better than the finals e.g Deementieva/Capriati uso 04, Capriati/Justine uso 03, amelei/serena wimby 04

Mynarco
Mar 24th, 2009, 11:48 AM
2005 Wimby. I still remember venus saving MP, and the joy after she won the whole thing in 3 sets, I feel happy as well..

well, that's the definition of my best GS final.

vwfan
Mar 24th, 2009, 01:37 PM
Wimbledon 2005: two of the best grass court players of their generation battling for the biggest prize in tennis, longest women's match in Wimbledon history, career rivals, both players not having won a major in a while, MP saved, injury and intensity. :worship:

oh yeah and two of my favs. :p

But the others were great, too. Wimbledon 2006 was really good. Nice to see a different style on center court and Momo finally coming in to her own.

Also, the drama of the Aus Open 2002. Wow!

frenchie
Mar 24th, 2009, 01:41 PM
Rg 2004

doujyr
Mar 24th, 2009, 01:44 PM
In terms of shock value it would be hard to beat Sharapova stunning Serena and the whole tennis world winning Wimbledon in 04. Not just winning, but the manner of the victory. Can't believe it was nearly 5 years ago now.

vwfan
Mar 24th, 2009, 01:59 PM
Rg 2004
:lol:

got to love a fan's commitment. you go!

vwfan
Mar 24th, 2009, 02:00 PM
In terms of shock value it would be hard to beat Sharapova stunning Serena and the whole tennis world winning Wimbledon in 04. Not just winning, but the manner of the victory. Can't believe it was nearly 5 years ago now.shocking, but not great.

it might have actually been great had Serena shown up to play.

pwayne
Mar 24th, 2009, 02:02 PM
2005 Wimbledon for at least 2 reasons:
(a) Question was out at that time saying that Venus could not win another major with the last one being 2001 USO
(b) Question was can Lindsay finally win her first Slam since 2000 AO

volta
Mar 24th, 2009, 02:11 PM
wimbledon 05

i also enjoyed Wimbledon 06 and USopen 08 (even though it was just 2 sets)

volta
Mar 24th, 2009, 02:12 PM
Rg 2004

Nastya :hearts:

that was Vee's tournament :sobbing:

sweetpeas
Mar 24th, 2009, 03:05 PM
AO 05 SF Masha vs Rena looks like a final

RIGHT!RIGHT!SERENA PLAY OUT OF HER MIND!Perfect tennis,that night!YEP!

HRHoliviasmith
Mar 24th, 2009, 03:09 PM
'99 French Open - Graf def. Hingis 4-6 7-5 6-2

I voted for this one. i was 11 years old :eek: and I remember really, really, really wanting Steffi to win! It wasn't live here in the states and my cousins in London (same time zone) had already called me to tell me who had won. i also remember steffi's reaction(she was so happy) and the grace and class in how she handled that graceless and classless martina's behaviour. :worship:

HRHoliviasmith
Mar 24th, 2009, 03:11 PM
In terms of shock value it would be hard to beat Sharapova stunning Serena and the whole tennis world winning Wimbledon in 04. Not just winning, but the manner of the victory. Can't believe it was nearly 5 years ago now.

one of the saddest days of my life. :sad:

Polikarpov
Mar 24th, 2009, 03:17 PM
Was the 2005 Wimby final really that great? Yes it was long, but thought the tennis was patchy at best.

fnuf7
Mar 24th, 2009, 03:20 PM
Even though I was bitterly disappointed with the outcome Wimby 05 gets my vote, I was tempted by Wimby 06 simply because some of the tennis played was great but it wasn't as dramatic as Venus vs Lindsay.

Olórin
Mar 24th, 2009, 03:23 PM
Was the 2005 Wimby final really that great? Yes it was long, but thought the tennis was patchy at best.

I suggest you rewatch it. Patchy at best is a woefully inadequate description, particularly of the last two sets.

Olórin
Mar 24th, 2009, 03:26 PM
We're definitely on a bad streak of slam finals.

Wimbledon 06, 08
USO 08

These are the only finals which have been Good, that are worth rewatching since the Great Wimbledon 05 Final.

Ok, AO 07 is worth rewatching, just because it's such a 'moment', but it's not really a match per se.

DA FOREHAND
Mar 24th, 2009, 03:36 PM
05 Wimby awesome match

99 French Great Match

Human Nature
Mar 24th, 2009, 03:45 PM
I prefer making a classemnt rather choose only one on the poll ;

1)Graf../Hingis : i am a fan of the Williams , but seriously , this match was one of the best i have never seen . I am no even a fan of the two players , i dont like Graf style and Hingis arrogancy .;but absolutely stuck to the entire match , i was emotionaly touched with joy as i routed for Graf against this pretentious Hingis ...


2)Venus Williams / Davenport , waouh , i was watching the match with a friend of mine a tennis fan and especialy venus ... . She couldnt follow the entire match , she was so much nervous . When the match point came for Davenport she decided to leave the house and not to follow the end of the match . But when she came back venus won ...we were absolutely Happy ...and that was first time i cried for a venu match ...there were so much at stake , she had to prove that she still could win a GS and back to the Top ..so much time have passed since she hadnt win nothing Big ... to me the best memory of venus Williams carreer ....


2) I decided to put Hingis /Capriati at the same level : remember this match was the turning point when AO officials decided to put the roof if the temperature goes beyond certains degree...
We all knew that if Hingis lost the second set , she would lost the entire so much she was belittle by th warm ...to watch this match was dramatic for me , and although the weither conditions , the two players committed completely in the match and offered a very quality match..


4)To me Capriaty /Clisjters was good only at the 3rd set as much as Henin / Mauresmo .

6 ) Venus/Serena was Bad sorry.. , too much unforced errors ... their matchs these days are being more and more interresting though...

VenusSerenaBlvd.
Mar 24th, 2009, 04:04 PM
the 06 Wimby was a great final. But 05 Wimby was the last truly great Grand Slam Final (women's). So many factors: Venus was written off as a GS contender, Lindsay was playing some of her best tennis of her career, so many momentum swings, pure "big babe" tennis (as Mary Carillo would say), clutch points...such a dramatic final!! my heart was pounding the most in the last 2 sets. and honestly, there were brief moments where i gave up hope for Venus to win the match. but she proved me wrong and won it!

Olórin
Mar 24th, 2009, 04:10 PM
Imo the All-Williams Sister Final at the Aus was better than the Hingis-Capriati one. I don't know why people like that match so much unless you really love to see someone saving match points, or you really hate Martina Hingis. It was a horrible collapse by her, and Jennifer never really did anything spectactular apart from a few good forehands.

The All-Williams final was excellent quality and had LOTS of momentum shifts. I'm surprised more people don't regard it as a classic really. Perhaps it was overshadowed by the Serena Slam and general dominance of the Williams Sisters, but that's life I guess.

The Dawntreader
Mar 24th, 2009, 04:12 PM
The '05 Wimby final is probably the most defining Slam final so far of the 21st century. Classic match in every respect.

VenusSerenaBlvd.
Mar 24th, 2009, 04:14 PM
We're definitely on a bad streak of slam finals.

Wimbledon 06, 08
USO 08

These are the only finals which have been Good, that are worth rewatching since the Great Wimbledon 05 Final.

Ok, AO 07 is worth rewatching, just because it's such a 'moment', but it's not really a match per se.

I agree...the AO 07 was such a "moment." I did not care if it was not competitive. Serena took out all her frustrations on Maria. :worship::fiery::worship: It was quite the display from Serena. But I just thought, all those close matches they had before, maybe Serena focused a lot of her energy in beating Maria that year. It's like she forgot about Henin. If Serena had come out with such force against Henin in 07, she would have beaten her once or twice in the Slams. Then again, Serena beat Henin easily in Miami 08. I know...shoulda, coulda, woulda. :confused:

HRHoliviasmith
Mar 24th, 2009, 04:17 PM
I agree...the AO 07 was such a "moment." I did not care if it was not competitive. Serena took out all her frustrations on Maria. :worship::fiery::worship: It was quite the display from Serena. But I just thought, all those close matches they had before, maybe Serena focused a lot of her energy in beating Maria that year. It's like she forgot about Henin. If Serena had come out with such force against Henin in 07, she would have beaten her once or twice in the Slams. Then again, Serena beat Henin easily in Miami 08. I know...shoulda, coulda, woulda. :confused:

:worship::bounce::lol:

BlameSerena
Mar 24th, 2009, 04:21 PM
I agree...the AO 07 was such a "moment." I did not care if it was not competitive. Serena took out all her frustrations on Maria. :worship::fiery::worship: It was quite the display from Serena. But I just thought, all those close matches they had before, maybe Serena focused a lot of her energy in beating Maria that year. It's like she forgot about Henin. If Serena had come out with such force against Henin in 07, she would have beaten her once or twice in the Slams. Then again, Serena beat Henin easily in Miami 08. I know...shoulda, coulda, woulda. :confused:

I think that Miami final against Henin was such a crazy match for her, and that she probably lost focus a bit. Not saying she did it purposely. But she had just beat Pova (who was number 1 at the time) in legendary fashion, then she's down and out against Henin (who was number 1 at the time), yet finds a way to win...and I think that after that her focus dropped a bit. It certainly did at the French. Wimby and USO are another story, respectively.

Human Nature
Mar 24th, 2009, 04:34 PM
Imo the All-Williams Sister Final at the Aus was better than the Hingis-Capriati one. I don't know why people like that match so much unless you really love to see someone saving match points, or you really hate Martina Hingis. It was a horrible collapse by her, and Jennifer never really did anything spectactular apart from a few good forehands.

The All-Williams final was excellent quality and had LOTS of momentum shifts. I'm surprised more people don't regard it as a classic really. Perhaps it was overshadowed by the Serena Slam and general dominance of the Williams Sisters, but that's life I guess.


Exately , i dont like Hingis at all but at the same the WS are my favorites , and i say their matchs were bad quality , full of U errors and without 100% of committment . I have prefered watching the Capriaty/Hingis rather than their matchs .

Honestly , most of the WS finals were :tape: back in 2003 /2002 . Only this famous 2003 Wimbly final was watchable ..but even this match if not the worst was not enough good quality to put it into a top 10 of best finals ...

Thats my opinion...

Marshmallow
Mar 24th, 2009, 04:35 PM
Venus Williams gave you dramamtic champion performance in the Wimbledon 2005 final. Down and out literally at several points in the match, under heaps on pressure (30-30 a lot late in the third)... nerves (when serving for the match)... saving a match point with a clean, hard it and difficult back hand winner... LONG rallies. Not to mention the backgroud story... the doubted champion who fought against everything and everyone to prove herself again. This is totally oscar winning material! Truly GREAT!

The rest were aight... I guess. :D

vwfan
Mar 24th, 2009, 04:40 PM
Venus Williams gave you dramamtic champion performance in the Wimbledon 2005 final. Down and out literally at several points in the match, under heaps on pressure (30-30 a lot late in the third)... nerves (when serving for the match)... saving a match point with a clean, hard it and difficult back hand winner... LONG rallies. Not to mention the backgroud story... the doubted champion who fought against everything and everyone to prove herself again. This is totally oscar winning material! Truly GREAT!

The rest were aight... I guess. :D

bias much? :lol:

glad to have you back Marsh!

volta
Mar 24th, 2009, 06:34 PM
Was the 2005 Wimby final really that great? Yes it was long, but thought the tennis was patchy at best.
in the heat of the moment (right after it finished) i thought that it wasn't , i had to go back and watch it again to really appreciate it and see that it was a classic . I had some seizures , migraines and mini heart attacks watching that match ( because of Venus i must say, for a moment i thought she was going to lose cuz Linds was serving like nobody and when that break and MP came to her i was :help: ) that's why i thought it wasn't that good in the beginning :o:lol:

ninanina19
Mar 24th, 2009, 06:47 PM
I thought AO 07 was a great final :lol:.

Patrick345
Mar 24th, 2009, 06:50 PM
USOpen 2008, would have been a classic, if Jankovic had won the 2nd set.

The Dawntreader
Mar 24th, 2009, 07:00 PM
Imo the All-Williams Sister Final at the Aus was better than the Hingis-Capriati one. I don't know why people like that match so much unless you really love to see someone saving match points, or you really hate Martina Hingis. It was a horrible collapse by her, and Jennifer never really did anything spectactular apart from a few good forehands.

The All-Williams final was excellent quality and had LOTS of momentum shifts. I'm surprised more people don't regard it as a classic really. Perhaps it was overshadowed by the Serena Slam and general dominance of the Williams Sisters, but that's life I guess.

Still my favourite all-Williams final, even more than the one's Venus won. Such drama, on a scale we haven't seen since really between them. The USO last year comes close, but all the tension was from Venus rather than Serena.

In the Aussie final, so much was on the line for both. Venus desperate to reassert herself in the Slams, and Serena looking to polish off the last Slam that had eluded her up until then. I thought even though there were some errors, the hitting was at an extremely high level. Venus was moving SO well, so effortlessly. Serena was the aggressor for most of the match, so it made a nice contrast.

That third set in particular was so rivetting. Serena showed how mentally tough she was, because Venus was trying to dig in for that match. Great match!

I wish someone would put it on Youtube:sad::lol:

MrSerenaWilliams
Mar 24th, 2009, 07:12 PM
There have been a few great QFs and SFs in the past could of years, but the 2005 Wimbledon Final was the best for a LONG time.

RJWCapriati
Mar 24th, 2009, 07:32 PM
2005 Wimbledon

2moretogo
Mar 24th, 2009, 07:41 PM
2005 Wimby, it was a hard fought match by both ladies and I remember smoking about a pack of ciggies during it. I was watching the 3rd set through a cloud of smoke.

RenaSlam.
Mar 24th, 2009, 07:50 PM
'05 Wimbledon had EVERYTHING.

LDVTennis
Mar 24th, 2009, 08:07 PM
The '05 Wimbledon Final is overrated. i recently watched it to see if there was anything I had missed. Not much. When there is the opening for the play and match to become something more, Venus and Lindsay just end up playing midcourt rallies that only continue for as long as they do because when Venus gets in trouble she moves Lindsay to the other side of the court and when Lindsay gets in trouble she hits to Venus' forehand. It's pure comedy.

Adal
Mar 24th, 2009, 08:09 PM
wimbledon 2005 :hearts:
and it will probably stay that way for a long time.

Legend1
Mar 24th, 2009, 08:17 PM
Ok I voted Wimbledon 2006... But maybe I am slightly Bias.

But it was truely a great final, two great players with so much variety in their games. Both wanting to play points at the net, fantastic volleying and both with outstanding one handed backhands... you just couldnt ask for anymore.

And for Amelie to win after being 6-2 down in the first set was unbelieveable. :worship:

Ok I'm going now :tape::lol:

MrSerenaWilliams
Mar 24th, 2009, 08:29 PM
The '05 Wimbledon Final is overrated. i recently watched it to see if there was anything I had missed. Not much. When there is the opening for the play and match to become something more, Venus and Lindsay just end up playing midcourt rallies that only continue for as long as they do because when Venus gets in trouble she moves Lindsay to the other side of the court and when Lindsay gets in trouble she hits to Venus' forehand. It's pure comedy.


Longest.Womens.Final.In.Wimbledon.History.

vwfan
Mar 24th, 2009, 08:31 PM
Ok I voted Wimbledon 2006... But maybe I am slightly Bias.

But it was truely a great final, two great players with so much variety in their games. Both wanting to play points at the net, fantastic volleying and both with outstanding one handed backhands... you just couldnt ask for anymore.

And for Amelie to win after being 6-2 down in the first set was unbelieveable. :worship:

Ok I'm going now :tape::lol::lol:

It was a good match. I enjoyed it.

vwfan
Mar 24th, 2009, 08:32 PM
Longest.Womens.Final.In.Wimbledon.History.exactly. :devil:

John.
Mar 24th, 2009, 08:40 PM
Wimbledon 2005, even though I have been unable to bring myself to watch it again :lol:

AcesHigh
Mar 24th, 2009, 08:51 PM
We're definitely on a bad streak of slam finals.

Wimbledon 06, 08
USO 08

These are the only finals which have been Good, that are worth rewatching since the Great Wimbledon 05 Final.

Ok, AO 07 is worth rewatching, just because it's such a 'moment', but it's not really a match per se.

Imo the All-Williams Sister Final at the Aus was better than the Hingis-Capriati one. I don't know why people like that match so much unless you really love to see someone saving match points, or you really hate Martina Hingis. It was a horrible collapse by her, and Jennifer never really did anything spectactular apart from a few good forehands.

The All-Williams final was excellent quality and had LOTS of momentum shifts. I'm surprised more people don't regard it as a classic really. Perhaps it was overshadowed by the Serena Slam and general dominance of the Williams Sisters, but that's life I guess.

I agree with all this except the quality of the AO final 2003. I thought it was pretty bad, but by far the best final of their rivalry in terms of quality AND excitement. (IMO, Wimby 2008 had better quality but was not that exciting).

vwfan
Mar 24th, 2009, 08:52 PM
Wimbledon 2005, even though I have been unable to bring myself to watch it again :lol:
Just watch the first set. Linds was on a tear. :sad:

Stay away from the last three games and the jumping though. :lol:

cn ireland
Mar 24th, 2009, 09:44 PM
Wimbledon in 2005 and 2006 was great so I went for '06!

wally1
Mar 24th, 2009, 09:56 PM
I thought Wim 06 was a great match, because that's a style of tennis I like to see played, and sadly all too rare these days.

Wim 05 was great too.

Br'er Rabbit
Mar 24th, 2009, 10:18 PM
2008 USO Final
2008 Wimbledon Final

Matt01
Mar 24th, 2009, 10:36 PM
Depends on the definition of "truly great". The last great Slam final was USO 2008 but the last "truly great" was probably Wimby 2005...


Just watch the first set. Linds was on a tear. :sad:

Stay away from the last three games and the jumping though. :lol:


The jumping :rolleyes:

Uranium
Mar 24th, 2009, 10:38 PM
Depends on the definition of "truly great". The last great Slam final was USO 2008 but the last "truly great" was probably Wimby 2005...

Did you really just admit that?:speakles:

KoOlMaNsEaN
Mar 24th, 2009, 10:42 PM
It's sad that 2006 Wimbledon was the last 3 set final. Just shows the lack of quality in the game :(
2005 wim final is the best womens match ive seen

Leo_DFP
Mar 24th, 2009, 10:43 PM
For the 35+ who voted for Wimbledon '06 - Mauresmo/Henin-Hardenne: That wwas not a "great" match. Sure, it was a very good match. But not great. The last great final was Venus/Davenport.

Legend1
Mar 24th, 2009, 11:04 PM
For the 35+ who voted for Wimbledon '06 - Mauresmo/Henin-Hardenne: That wwas not a "great" match. Sure, it was a very good match. But not great. The last great final was Venus/Davenport.


Ok if you say so :rolleyes:

MrSerenaWilliams
Mar 24th, 2009, 11:44 PM
the 2003 AO Final should have been up there instead of the Wimbledon one :shrug:

laurie
Mar 25th, 2009, 12:02 AM
I'm sorry but I just don't understand this poll or the purpose of the poll, all the matches listed are great matches - and does the last one mean the most recent final that was considered a great match?

The votes casted will probably be more along the lines of what was your favourite final.

OZTENNIS
Mar 25th, 2009, 12:31 AM
^^^
It's not that hard to understand.

Brooklyn90
Mar 25th, 2009, 12:34 AM
2008 Wimbledon and Us Open finals were good, maybe not classic good though.

Nicolás89
Mar 25th, 2009, 12:38 AM
Last great was last year's US Open. Great match! :)

CoolDude7
Mar 25th, 2009, 12:39 AM
WIMB 05 hands down!!!

Nicolás89
Mar 25th, 2009, 12:43 AM
I think Wimbledon 06 final is hugely underated.

You can see in these highlights how 90% of the points end with a volley, that's how you play tennis in grass. :worship:
2BKX4LS4pyg

shell
Mar 25th, 2009, 12:59 AM
I think Wimbledon 06 final is hugely underated.

You can see in these highlights how 90% of the points end with a volley, that's how you play tennis in grass. :worship:
2BKX4LS4pyg

THAT is great grass court tennis. It is beautiful to watch. :worship:

Linnie
Mar 25th, 2009, 03:24 AM
I think Wimbledon 06 final is hugely underated.

You can see in these highlights how 90% of the points end with a volley, that's how you play tennis in grass. :worship:
2BKX4LS4pyg
:hearts: :worship:

PizzaMan
Mar 25th, 2009, 03:43 AM
Given the question and the provided choices (not counting "Other"), the question boils down to whether one thought that the Wimby 2006 final was "truly great" or not. Everyone knows that the Wimby 2005 final was truly great, so that eliminates all the tournaments further in the past from being a valid answer. That leaves one with choosing between Wimby 2005 and Wimby 2006. If one considers Wimby 2006 to be "truly great", then he MUST vote for that choice, even if he knows that Wimby 2005 is clearly greater, because Wimby 2006 is more recent. If one doesn't think that Wimby 2006 was "truly great", then he must obviously vote for Wimby 2005.

I don't consider Wimby 2006 to have been "truly great", so I vote for Wimby 2005. :)

Sapphisto
Mar 25th, 2009, 03:46 AM
Let's hear it for serve & volley, for the all-court game, and for its two greatest proponents in recent times. :worship::worship::worship:

People think because there was so much tension between those two - you could have cut it with a knife in that match - and because it did undeniably cause some nervous moments on both sides, that the tennis was not so good. BS. Thank you Matias for posting the highlights, it's a nice reminder of what delicious treats were served up that day. :hearts:

A seriously underrated final, indeed, and it got my vote. :yeah:

lurker
Mar 25th, 2009, 03:49 AM
While these were all great tennis or drama wise, there was no greater final listed up there than Venus def Davenport in Wimbledon. In fact, I think I'll go have another looksee!

Volcana
Mar 25th, 2009, 03:51 AM
I think Wimbledon 06 final is hugely underated.

You can see in these highlights how 90% of the points end with a volley, that's how you play tennis in grass.Perhaps 90% of the points you chose to show end in volleys. I didn't do the math. But I did take the trouble to research that stats on the match. Some of them anyway.

http://tennis.quickfound.net/wta_results_2006/wimbledon_results_2006.html"The two players went to the net 89 times in the 180 points played, which might be a record for 2 sets of women's tennis in this decade. Amelie scored on 22 of 45 net approaches; Justine on 27 of 44."
89 of 180 is a kickin' number, but it ain't 90%

youizahoe
Mar 25th, 2009, 03:55 AM
2008 US OPEN, weird not to include that one, cause it had more drama and ferocity in it than all the ones above mentioned, combined.

Apoleb
Mar 25th, 2009, 03:57 AM
Henin/Mauresmo is actually hugely overrated. Neither of them played her best during the match at the same time. There was a significant drop of performance from Justine and a significant increase from Mauresmo in the second set, and that's how it basically stayed. Yeah, they both came a lot to the net, but that doesn't make it automatically a great match. :weirdo:. I much prefer the Dubai final between those two.

youizahoe
Mar 25th, 2009, 03:58 AM
Henin/Mauresmo is actually hugely overrated. Neither of them played her best during the match at the same time. Yeah, they both came a lot to the net, but that doesn't make it automatically a great match. :weirdo:. I much prefer the Dubai final between those two.

Not to mention, Mauresmo and Henin would be smashed with that level and choking by any other player. On top of that, If Henin stayed cool, she could have won that 2nd set quickly.

Nicolás89
Mar 25th, 2009, 03:59 AM
Perhaps 90% of the points you chose to show end in volleys. I didn't do the math. But I did take the trouble to research that stats on the match. Some of them anyway.

http://tennis.quickfound.net/wta_results_2006/wimbledon_results_2006.html"The two players went to the net 89 times in the 180 points played, which might be a record for 2 sets of women's tennis in this decade. Amelie scored on 22 of 45 net approaches; Justine on 27 of 44."
89 of 180 is a kickin' number, but it ain't 90%

Anyone with a brain would've figured I was exagerating. :shrug:

Nicolás89
Mar 25th, 2009, 04:02 AM
Henin/Mauresmo is actually hugely overrated. Neither of them played her best during the match at the same time. There was a significant drop of performance from Justine and a significant increase from Mauresmo in the second set, and that's how it basically stayed. Yeah, they both came a lot to the net, but that doesn't make it automatically a great match. :weirdo:. I much prefer the Dubai final between those two.

Agreed, it would be really stupid to think that, but this is a great final.

mckyle.
Mar 25th, 2009, 04:04 AM
2006 Wimbledon, so underrated!

Volcana
Mar 25th, 2009, 04:04 AM
Anyone with a brain would've figured I was exagerating. :shrug:You may find this hard to believe, but smart people generally use numbers with precision. As in 90% does NOT equal 49%. But I do appreciate that to you, they seem more or less equal.

BuTtErFrEnA
Mar 25th, 2009, 04:09 AM
05 wimbledon then 08 us open

Nicolás89
Mar 25th, 2009, 04:12 AM
You may find this hard to believe, but smart people generally use numbers with precision. As in 90% does NOT equal 49%. But I do appreciate that to you, they seem more or less equal.

Smart people also can read, I did state (with grammatical errors, I know) that in the video you could see a 90% of points ending at the net, a number that yet exaggerated is close to reality.

zxcVbnm88
Mar 25th, 2009, 04:14 AM
'05 Wimbledon - V. Williams def. Davenport 4-6 7-6 9-7

moby
Mar 25th, 2009, 04:18 AM
"The two players went to the net 89 times in the 180 points played, which might be a record for 2 sets of women's tennis in this decade. Amelie scored on 22 of 45 net approaches; Justine on 27 of 44."I think these stats pretty much debunk the common misconception that Amelie outvolleyed Justine in the match. She won 49% of the points on her net approaches. Justine won 61%. The match was decided in the third set, on Amelie's incredible serving, and Justine's ridiculous forehand errors in the one game she got broken (she was up 30-0).

IMO, RG 99 > OZ 02 > Wimby 05. These three were the standouts in the past decade. It depends on the individual's barometer for greatness as to which one they would pick as the last "great" final (i.e. was Wimby 05 great enough? and so on)

Apoleb
Mar 25th, 2009, 04:26 AM
I think these stats pretty much debunk the common misconception that Amelie outvolleyed Justine in the match. She won 49% of the points on her net approaches. Justine won 61%. The match was decided in the third set, on Amelie's incredible serving, and Justine's ridiculous forehand errors in the one game she got broken (she was up 30-0).



If I remember correctly, it was the volleying that kept Justine close in the third set. She was struggling with her groundstrokes, on top of Amelie's serving. But yeah I'm preaching to the choir. :p

edit: this was actually the game she got broken on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKq1-xv9ymI . It was pretty horrendous. 4 UE from the baseline. ugh. I hate that match.

Sapphisto
Mar 25th, 2009, 07:02 AM
I think these stats pretty much debunk the common misconception that Amelie outvolleyed Justine in the match. She won 49% of the points on her net approaches. Justine won 61%. The match was decided in the third set, on Amelie's incredible serving, and Justine's ridiculous forehand errors in the one game she got broken (she was up 30-0).

Is it common? I thought she came back from a tough first set (where Justine dominated, no question) and just generally outplayed Justine to win the match. They both had errors, they both got nervous, they both played gorgeous tennis at times.

Amélie won. :shrug:

If I remember correctly, it was the volleying that kept Justine close in the third set. She was struggling with her groundstrokes, on top of Amelie's serving. But yeah I'm preaching to the choir. :p
edit: this was actually the game she got broken on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKq1-xv9ymI . It was pretty horrendous. 4 UE from the baseline. ugh. I hate that match.

And therefore we can expect an unbiased, objective view from you?! :lol:;)

And I'm not going to pretend that I'm being completely objective, no. :p