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tennnisfannn
Mar 23rd, 2009, 02:59 PM
plausible or not. If she builds on the confidence following a big title she is going to be very difficult to beat on clay. Early days but her results in the latter half of last year and so far this year have been very consistent.
Unfortunatley she does not seem to be getting sufficient recognition.
What do you guys think? can she win the FO? That and we are bound to have a brand new champion at some point in a slam again.

bobbynorwich
Mar 23rd, 2009, 03:08 PM
Zvonareva is a brilliant woman, uncommonly mature, very hard worker, and exceptionally talented. Whether she wins the FO or not, she's going to be a force to contend with on the tour for many years.

tenn_ace
Mar 23rd, 2009, 03:08 PM
I'd love that to happen but have doubts - not enough offense in her to do that. I don't think defense only could get her to the title on clay.

Julian.
Mar 23rd, 2009, 03:09 PM
I think she has a pretty big chance for this.

frenchie
Mar 23rd, 2009, 03:13 PM
definitely

Her game suits clay very well

Costanza
Mar 23rd, 2009, 03:16 PM
No.

goldenlox
Mar 23rd, 2009, 03:19 PM
Since the YEC Vera is about 22-3 and I believe she has the most points on the tour over the last 5 months.
Can she win a Henin-less FO? She's probably one of 8 or 9 with a chance. But she has never played her best tennis late in a major

mr_burns
Mar 23rd, 2009, 03:33 PM
i don't think she has the mental strength to beat a Williams at a Slam (i know she did, but it was an early round).
Furthermore she seems to have problems with elena
But it wouldn't be the biggest surprise if she woukd one, and maybe more deserved than the 2004 champion

!BlondBangs!
Mar 23rd, 2009, 03:36 PM
I hope so, I love Vera!

Koon
Mar 23rd, 2009, 03:38 PM
Her name's Zvonareva :sobbing: :crying2:
FO ?? :haha: Let's see what would she do at Madrid first ? :D

shap_half
Mar 23rd, 2009, 03:44 PM
I think she has a great clay game, and could certainly make a run for it. I hope her IW title gives her the confidence in bigger tournaments. She was in so many big finals last year that she narrowly missed winning. I hope IW turns the tide around and she finds another level in her game.

bengt
Mar 23rd, 2009, 03:45 PM
Never gonna happen.

Cp6uja
Mar 23rd, 2009, 03:50 PM
Of course... Why not... she just won Indian Wells title?










Her chances will grow especially if she lose in some of early rounds in FO/09 singles competition. Vera and Vika is great contenders and now when she establish her name in WTA maybe she will have some decent partner in mix-doubles too and be "Double contender" at FO!?

Kipling
Mar 23rd, 2009, 03:55 PM
Henin once said she thought Zvonareva was the most talented of the Russians. She's always had the physical ability to win a major, IMO, but her head always seems to get in the way. That said, she's doing much better with the mental side of it and with her consistency, it's no surprise she has made it to the top 5. A major is a much bigger task, however, given her GS performances historically. I dunno about the French. From what I have seen, she tends to play her best on hardcourts.

Ksenia.
Mar 23rd, 2009, 03:56 PM
The day Zvonareva wins a GS title will be the saddest in tennis history. Even sadder than 11th August, when JJ became #1. I am not a Zvonareva hater and I'm a JJ fan, but just think about it.

AcesHigh
Mar 23rd, 2009, 03:57 PM
Are you... SERIOUS?

She just won her FIRST big title and she didn't beat any big champions to do it. No, I can't see her winning RG unless she shows more composure and bigmatch toughness in the coming months.

shap_half
Mar 23rd, 2009, 04:09 PM
Are you... SERIOUS?

She just won her FIRST big title and she didn't beat any big champions to do it. No, I can't see her winning RG unless she shows more composure and bigmatch toughness in the coming months.

Vera has been playing incredibly well the last 5 months of so. I think she has probably played the consistently best tennis out of everyone except Serena in the last 5-6 months. She may have just won her first big title, but she has been knocking on that door for about 12 months now. She made several big finals last year losing to Venus, Serena, Ana, Maria and Jelena. I think she has as good a chance as anyone on the tour to win RG.

Ellery
Mar 23rd, 2009, 04:11 PM
That would be amazing :drool:

That said, her Slam record is :help:

AcesHigh
Mar 23rd, 2009, 04:26 PM
Vera has been playing incredibly well the last 5 months of so. I think she has probably played the consistently best tennis out of everyone except Serena in the last 5-6 months. She may have just won her first big title, but she has been knocking on that door for about 12 months now. She made several big finals last year losing to Venus, Serena, Ana, Maria and Jelena. I think she has as good a chance as anyone on the tour to win RG.

It's not that easy to win a slam. Obviously, it's not even that easy to win a big title and the only time Vera has done it now is with a depleted field.

She's a very good player, but in the last 5 months, Venus, Serena and Dementieva have been playing better. Not only that, but Vera is still a mental midget and you'd be hard-pressed to find evidence of the contrary. In the second game of that match yesterday she's smashing her racquet. Do you really think she's going to last in the latter stages of a slam??

And knocking on teh door? Her slam record last year was atrocious

Ryan
Mar 23rd, 2009, 04:27 PM
Are you... SERIOUS?

She just won her FIRST big title and she didn't beat any big champions to do it. No, I can't see her winning RG unless she shows more composure and bigmatch toughness in the coming months.



Ivanovic is still a champion, whether she's been slumping or not. And incase you haven't noticed, you don't HAVE to beat many champions to win a Slam nowadays. Serena did it at the AO, but she's Serena. Vera could get a draw where she just has to play Azarenka, Safina, and Jankovic to win. And on clay, at RG, anything is really possible.

shap_half
Mar 23rd, 2009, 05:27 PM
It's not that easy to win a slam. Obviously, it's not even that easy to win a big title and the only time Vera has done it now is with a depleted field.

She's a very good player, but in the last 5 months, Venus, Serena and Dementieva have been playing better. Not only that, but Vera is still a mental midget and you'd be hard-pressed to find evidence of the contrary. In the second game of that match yesterday she's smashing her racquet. Do you really think she's going to last in the latter stages of a slam??

And knocking on teh door? Her slam record last year was atrocious

A Tier 1 title over Li Na, Wozniaki, Azarenka and Ivanovic is depleted?

SAEKeithSerena
Mar 23rd, 2009, 05:34 PM
good chance, but not happening. it's serena's turn, finally.

propi
Mar 23rd, 2009, 06:05 PM
Could be, Vera is really good on clay if she can get over her sometimes weak mind and focuses in her tennis.
However I always thought that it would be Kuznetsova the russian who could follow Myskina's path; but lately her head is in the clouds, but if focused and healthy who knows.

RenaSlam.
Mar 23rd, 2009, 06:06 PM
People always think Dementieva, Zvonareva, and even Petrova at some point have the ability to win slams...

...and they continuously falter on the big stage.

The FO will be no different.

Dexter
Mar 23rd, 2009, 06:08 PM
Surely she has a chance if the whole fortnight in Paris is as windy as yesterday on the Californian desert.

franny
Mar 23rd, 2009, 06:29 PM
A Tier 1 title over Li Na, Wozniaki, Azarenka and Ivanovic is depleted?

Pretty much.

The problem I find with Zvonareva is that she lacks a weapon. She has extremely consistent groundstrokes and moves well. But when was the last time a player won a grand slam without having a big weapon? Anastasia Myskina, French Open 2004? I just don't see Vera winning a slam because she's often at the mercy of stronger and more offensive players. In a slam, she'll often have to at least play 2-3.

However, with that said, its at least plausible that she won't given the current state of women's tennis. If someone can take out the Williams in the early round, then she actually stands a chance. Especially if she straws the likes of Jankovic and Dementieva is the later stages.

shap_half
Mar 23rd, 2009, 06:34 PM
Pretty much.

The problem I find with Zvonareva is that she lacks a weapon. She has extremely consistent groundstrokes and moves well. But when was the last time a player won a grand slam without having a big weapon? Anastasia Myskina, French Open 2004? I just don't see Vera winning a slam because she's often at the mercy of stronger and more offensive players. In a slam, she'll often have to at least play 2-3.

However, with that said, its at least plausible that she won't given the current state of women's tennis. If someone can take out the Williams in the early round, then she actually stands a chance. Especially if she straws the likes of Jankovic and Dementieva is the later stages.

Given the current state of women's tennis having to get through Na, Caroline, Vika and Ana is not depleted.

On clay, having a huge weapon is not a surefire way of winning the title.

*Jool*
Mar 23rd, 2009, 07:04 PM
I actually would not mind her winning, and can't say that of all the top 10 players :tape:
(and yes, it's possible )

Kart
Mar 23rd, 2009, 07:11 PM
I like Vera but she will need to be a lot more aggressive to win the French open this year. Currently the more consistent big hitters would still knock her off the court.

That said, she is finally fulfilling some of the potential we all knew she could - if she continues to improve, keep her head and get a few more big wins under her belt I can see her winning it in the next few years.

MaBaker
Mar 23rd, 2009, 07:13 PM
:haha:

Conor
Mar 23rd, 2009, 07:15 PM
I would love for her to win a slam but mentally I dont know if she can. She was playing great in Australia then played a horrible semi against Safina. You never know though on clay, Ivanovic is the best clay courter and shes not really in form. Plus Vera has improved immensely over the past half a year... whos to say she cant kick on even more? I hope she will.

Hurley
Mar 23rd, 2009, 07:15 PM
If the Williams sisters are both on the opposite side of the draw, I EXPECT Bepa to make the final. Then it's a roll of the dice.

So...we shall see.

AnnaK_4ever
Mar 23rd, 2009, 07:22 PM
Pretty much.

The problem I find with Zvonareva is that she lacks a weapon. She has extremely consistent groundstrokes and moves well. But when was the last time a player won a grand slam without having a big weapon? Anastasia Myskina, French Open 2004? I just don't see Vera winning a slam because she's often at the mercy of stronger and more offensive players. In a slam, she'll often have to at least play 2-3.

However, with that said, its at least plausible that she won't given the current state of women's tennis. If someone can take out the Williams in the early round, then she actually stands a chance. Especially if she straws the likes of Jankovic and Dementieva is the later stages.

Myskina could change the pace of the ball better than anyone else on the tour and her backhand was definitely a weapon. But she was never patient enough to win on clay courts. That's why her win at Paris was such a shock. If she was destined to win a major the Oz or Wimbledon would be more "fitting" slams to do so.
As for Vera, she is so solid from the baseline she could be a contender at Roland Garros. In fact, she should have reached her first slam final at Melbourne but totally collapsed against pitiful Safina. And I'm afraid something like that could happen at Paris too.

Svetlana.
Mar 23rd, 2009, 07:27 PM
If the Williams sisters are both on the opposite side of the draw, I EXPECT Bepa to make the final. Then it's a roll of the dice.

Serena is #1 and Venus is #6. Can they get to the same side of the draw again?

Hurley
Mar 23rd, 2009, 07:28 PM
Serena is #1 and Venus is #6. Can they get to the same side of the draw again?

Of course. 50/50, just like always. :shrug:

Uranus
Mar 23rd, 2009, 08:10 PM
There's a big gap between a Tier I and a Grand Slam. Vera has the game to win the FO for sure, but I don't know if she has what it takes mentally to win big matches at this level.

Sammm
Mar 23rd, 2009, 08:21 PM
I doubt it.
Depends on the draw though. But I couldn't see her beating Elena. Venus and Serena in one tournament, for example, or three other good players in a row.

But she did it at the YEC. So we'll have to wait and see.

OsloErik
Mar 23rd, 2009, 08:31 PM
She's got the most all-surface game of the Russians; she's better on grass than Kuznetsova, better on clay than Sharapova...she's probably a top 10 quality player on each surface.

The Dawntreader
Mar 23rd, 2009, 08:34 PM
She's got the most all-surface game of the Russians; she's better on grass than Kuznetsova, better on clay than Sharapova...she's probably a top 10 quality player on each surface.

Really? To me Zvonareva moves almost two steps slower than Kuzy on grass. I do think Kuzy has a more natural aptitude for grass, hence the better record on the surface for example. She's probably the only russian who serves and volleys on grass. Petrova too, but Kuzy is more prone to doing this.

I can't dispute her repute on other surfaces though.

Sammm
Mar 23rd, 2009, 11:27 PM
She's got the most all-surface game of the Russians; she's better on grass than Kuznetsova, better on clay than Sharapova...she's probably a top 10 quality player on each surface.

I agree with your point except the part about Kuznetsova and grass.

Kuzzy has Eastbourne :p Plus I think she could do a lot on this surface - the serve, the volley, the forehand - all important weapons on grass. (Of course the forehand is important on every surface.) The problem is not her game on grass that stops her from doing well, it's her mentality, and sometimes Venus Williams.

What she needs is not Morozova: she needs the most powerful lesbian tennis has ever known to get her came back on track. Yes, I'm talking about


Martina Navratilova :lick:

Uranium
Mar 23rd, 2009, 11:36 PM
She won't win it, but maybe in a few years:)

AnnaK_4ever
Mar 23rd, 2009, 11:40 PM
Kuznetsova's got far better results on grass courts than Zvonareva but each of them has defeated only one top-15 player on the surface.

Wiggly
Mar 23rd, 2009, 11:44 PM
No way, C6puja' stats are showing that it's always a brunette with a strong forehand and poor results in Berlin that ends up winning.:tape:

Costanza
Mar 23rd, 2009, 11:47 PM
No way, C6puja' stats are showing that it's always a brunette with a strong forehand and poor results in Berlin that ends up winning.:tape:

Well,he's right:lol:
Since there is no more Berlin tournament,i predict that winner of Rome will not win FO:p

OsloErik
Mar 24th, 2009, 12:28 AM
Really? To me Zvonareva moves almost two steps slower than Kuzy on grass. I do think Kuzy has a more natural aptitude for grass, hence the better record on the surface for example. She's probably the only russian who serves and volleys on grass. Petrova too, but Kuzy is more prone to doing this.

I can't dispute her repute on other surfaces though.

I agree with your point except the part about Kuznetsova and grass.

Kuzzy has Eastbourne :p Plus I think she could do a lot on this surface - the serve, the volley, the forehand - all important weapons on grass. (Of course the forehand is important on every surface.) The problem is not her game on grass that stops her from doing well, it's her mentality, and sometimes Venus Williams.

What she needs is not Morozova: she needs the most powerful lesbian tennis has ever known to get her came back on track. Yes, I'm talking about


Martina Navratilova :lick:

Kuznetsova's got far better results on grass courts than Zvonareva but each of them has defeated only one top-15 player on the surface.

You are all right, of course. And normally I don't have a problem remembering Kuznetsova's ability on anything! I'm sure there's a top Russian I'm thinking of who isn't superb on grass...Dementieva? The semifinal is about the only half-decent thing she's done on grass, right?

In reality, Kuznetsova probably is the player who is most evenly capable on all four surfaces. There's really very little besides her head stopping her from being a constant semifinal presence at all four slams. I'd put Zvonareva second, with Sharapova or Petrova third.

Sammm
Mar 24th, 2009, 01:29 AM
Kuznetsova's got far better results on grass courts than Zvonareva but each of them has defeated only one top-15 player on the surface.


You're right - and the top 15 player Kuzzy had beaten was Zvonareva herself :haha:
To be fair to Kuznetsova she has beaten a very determined Hantuchova and Maria Sharapova on grass too. Ranking is not always the only criterion to take into account.

sammy01
Mar 24th, 2009, 01:30 AM
should not be in the same sentence, let alone the title of a thread lol

AnnaK_4ever
Mar 24th, 2009, 01:41 AM
You're right - and the top 15 player Kuzzy had beaten was Zvonareva herself :haha:
To be fair to Kuznetsova she has beaten a very determined Hantuchova and Maria Sharapova on grass too. Ranking is not always the only criterion to take into account.

Win over Hantuchova at non-IW final is not a big deal.
Win (75 in the third set) over 16 years old, barely top-100, Sharapova is hardly a huge feat as well.
Kuznetsova was ranked much higher on both occasions and was supposed to win.

goldenlox
Mar 24th, 2009, 01:47 AM
Vera was 2 points from beating Sveta at Eastbourne the year Sveta won it.
I saw that whole match and I thought Vera was going to win until she DF'ed away her break and lost set 2

Sammm
Mar 24th, 2009, 01:51 AM
Win over Hantuchova at non-IW final is not a big deal.
Win (75 in the third set) over 16 years old, barely top-100, Sharapova is hardly a huge feat as well.
Kuznetsova was ranked much higher on both occasions and was supposed to win.

:rolleyes: I said that rankings are not always the most important indicator in a win and your counter-argument is "Kuznetsova was ranked much higher" at the time :haha:
I disagree :Hantuchova was in a slump, but had a lot of momentum going into that final; plus any time you're in a tier 2 final of course it's a big deal.
The win over Sharapova was a good one too. She had just gotten to the semi-finals of Birmingham and was probably the favourite going in to the match.

I'm just saying that both are good grass-court players and they were good wins despite Sharapova's youth and the pair's low ranking. But Kuznetsova should have had a lot more good wins with her talent.

I read your posts and I see you're as stubborn as a mule, so let's agree to disagree.

goldenlox
Mar 24th, 2009, 01:54 AM
Sveta is not a good grass court player. When she beat Sharapova, Maria was 16 and 2 months
I think Vera is closer to an all court player than Sveta, although I can't prove that.
Sveta is like Dinara and wants time before she hits a grounstroke. I think Vera can handle fast surfaces a little better, like indoor carpets and grass

Pasta-Na
Mar 24th, 2009, 01:57 AM
i doubt it, QF or SF'd be good.

AnnaK_4ever
Mar 24th, 2009, 02:05 AM
:rolleyes: I said that rankings are not always the most important indicator in a win and your counter-argument is "Kuznetsova was ranked much higher" at the time :haha:

Rankings could be irrelevant when #10 plays #15 but not when #10 plays #60 who happens to be a notorious choker.

I read your posts and I see you're as stubborn as a mule, so let's agree to disagree.

I am right, you are wrong -- no need to disagree. Peace.

CJ07
Mar 24th, 2009, 02:05 AM
Zvonareva took a set off Serena in 2002, beat Venus in 2003, made the QF that year, did some other damage. She has the talent, but she'll need to compose herself and the right draw.

Sammm
Mar 24th, 2009, 02:20 AM
Rankings could be irrelevant when #10 plays #15 but not when #10 plays #60 who happens to be a notorious choker.



I am right, you are wrong -- no need to disagree. Peace.

So arrogant :lol: I still disagree and would argue further than on grass, a surface so underrepresented in the tennis calendar, rankings become even less important. That's why still has the right to discretionary seeding.

Sammm
Mar 24th, 2009, 02:27 AM
Sveta is not a good grass court player. When she beat Sharapova, Maria was 16 and 2 months
I think Vera is closer to an all court player than Sveta, although I can't prove that.
Sveta is like Dinara and wants time before she hits a grounstroke. I think Vera can handle fast surfaces a little better, like indoor carpets and grass

Sigh. I agree with you in some respects, goldenlox.
Vera has a good game on the fastest surfaces like indoor carpet and grass you're right. Vera has those very tight strokes and good ability to half-volley back a ball which is useful on grass.

But Svetlana has the more explosive game and if we look at past Wimbledon champions - Venus, Sharapova, Serena - they've all had very explosive games too.

RJWCapriati
Mar 24th, 2009, 02:46 AM
I think the French would be her best chance......I think she would have a game to be able to win there.

Roookie
Mar 24th, 2009, 05:23 AM
I think this year the title will go to either Safina, Serena, Vera or Venus. Vera could get to the final but it may be too much to handle for her. A FO title for her in the future its a good bet though.

nicidle
Mar 24th, 2009, 05:30 AM
I think this year the title will go to either Safina, Serena, Vera or Venus. Vera could get to the final but it may be too much to handle for her. A FO title for her in the future its a good bet though.

venus?

Solitaire
Mar 24th, 2009, 05:53 AM
If Myskina can do it Bepa can....

tennnisfannn
Mar 24th, 2009, 07:35 AM
I ownder why some people are amused that Vera could even be considered for the FO title. Currently the best players are the williams but on clay that is no really a given. Which leaves Ana, ElenaD as some of the contenders.
Jj and Safina have to find their game first.

akephon35695
Mar 24th, 2009, 08:00 AM
I'm a fan of her but QF performance is fine for me.IMO she can rise her ranking to top3 on grass and us-summer which is her slumping part of last season.
For FO title if Venus play as final at Acapulco why not this year + JJ game on clay is the best of active player now.

pollison
Mar 24th, 2009, 08:30 AM
No

skanky~skanketta
Mar 24th, 2009, 08:50 AM
Who knows? I'd be thrilled if she does. She's beaten every single top player currently playing at least once, and she's won a title on every surface (right?). If she's able to string her wins together, we may see her win.

Never say never. Who would have thought that Myskina would have beaten Kuznetsova after saving match points, Venus and Jennifer rather handily to get to the final and trounce Elena? And Myskina sucks on clay!

HELL, who would have thought that Sharapova would have beaten Serena so easily at Wimbledon? Or Svetlana to win a grand slam?

Keegan
Mar 24th, 2009, 08:52 AM
Why not? She has fantastic game and as seen can beat top opponents. It was doubtful this time last year. Hell it was doubtful last year after many Tier I finals, but now she's definitely worthy of a Grand Slam.

Wojtek
Mar 24th, 2009, 08:55 AM
Zvonareva will better than Dementieva for sure

skanky~skanketta
Mar 24th, 2009, 09:01 AM
That being said, she's probably gonna lose the first round. Fuck. :(

madlove
Mar 24th, 2009, 09:01 AM
its too open now... anyone could win it

Elldee
Mar 24th, 2009, 11:49 AM
There's no point looking into the past re Vera... she's been different since Champs final and has since won another small title, her first slam semi and her first tier I [a super tier I, no less] in straights. She's a different player.

Plus, I think she's a really good grass player but has had some bad luck; for example, when she flew down the rankings a few years ago she came back, won birmingham, then drew clijsters first round.

Beat
Mar 24th, 2009, 01:16 PM
she has a chance, yes. but she just doesn't come across as GS material to me. :shrug:

Epigone
Mar 24th, 2009, 01:31 PM
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Я испытываю удивительные чувства от того, что смогла выиграть каждый отдельный матч. Думаю, это сильно поможет мне в будущем. Теперь я буду знать, как побеждать в таких длинных, двухнедельных турнирах. Раньше мне было сложно оставаться в турнире, когда я играла два-три матча подряд с сильными соперницами. Думала, что не смогу выиграть четыре, пять, шесть подобных встреч. Теперь я стала опытнее и знаю, что способна на это – играть и держать концентрацию на протяжении многих матчей подряд, – приводит слова россиянки TENNIS.comThe future looks bright :D

Princeza
Mar 24th, 2009, 02:22 PM
The future looks bright :D

I don't think this is wtatour.ru :rolleyes:

CloudAtlas
Mar 24th, 2009, 04:07 PM
I'm still not convinced. And I do think she had a far easier ride (if you forget about ranking and take quality during the tournament into consideration) than Ivanovic in IW this year but Ivanovic just couldn't handle playing in the conditions and hit unforced errors every bloody 10 seconds.

Zvonareva's semi against Azarenka was a very low quality match , 8 winners from Vera and she won which says more about the crap play of Azarenka than the quality of play from Zvonareva. Furthermore , she hit 12 DF's against Wozniacki and still managed to win.

People can jump on the bandwagon if they like but unless she can beat a top 10 player who isn't hitting unforced errors left,right and centre, I still don't consider her anywhere near a big enough threat at a GS.

shap_half
Mar 24th, 2009, 04:14 PM
I'm still not convinced. And I do think she had a far easier ride (if you forget about ranking and take quality during the tournament into consideration) than Ivanovic in IW this year but Ivanovic just couldn't handle playing in the conditions and hit unforced errors every bloody 10 seconds.

Zvonareva's semi against Azarenka was a very low quality match , 8 winners from Vera and she won which says more about the crap play of Azarenka than the quality of play from Zvonareva. Furthermore , she hit 12 DF's against Wozniacki and still managed to win.

People can jump on the bandwagon if they like but unless she can beat a top 10 player who isn't hitting unforced errors left,right and centre, I still don't consider her anywhere near a big enough threat at a GS.

Well, she made the YEC finals beating Dementieva, Kuznetsova, Jankovic and Ivanovic. I don't know what else you want from her.

Dexter
Mar 24th, 2009, 04:17 PM
I don't think this is wtatour.ru :rolleyes:Vera said: I'm experiencing amazing feelings as a result of being able to win each of the matches. I think it's gonna help me in the future. I'm going to know now how to win in these 2 week long tournaments. Earlier it was difficult for me to stay in the tournament, when I had to play 2-3 matches in a row against strong opponents. I thought I couldn't win 5-6 such matches in a row. Now that I've become more experienced I know that I've got this in me - to play and stay focused during a couple of matches in a row.

But I agree that one should translate an article if he's going to post it in GM. :tape:

tennnisfannn
Mar 24th, 2009, 04:17 PM
I'm still not convinced. And I do think she had a far easier ride (if you forget about ranking and take quality during the tournament into consideration) than Ivanovic in IW this year but Ivanovic just couldn't handle playing in the conditions and hit unforced errors every bloody 10 seconds.

Zvonareva's semi against Azarenka was a very low quality match , 8 winners from Vera and she won which says more about the crap play of Azarenka than the quality of play from Zvonareva. Furthermore , she hit 12 DF's against Wozniacki and still managed to win.

People can jump on the bandwagon if they like but unless she can beat a top 10 player who isn't hitting unforced errors left,right and centre, I still don't consider her anywhere near a big enough threat at a GS.
and who is to say that top player won't be hitting errors at the FO too!!

VenusSerenaBlvd.
Mar 24th, 2009, 04:19 PM
I know Vera is a very good clay courter, but I think she has to win a BIG clay tourney first. I definitely think she can win the FO, but she must back up the Indian Wells win with a couple of good tourneys. I also like Zvonereva. She always seems nice and is a sweet girl. I remember the match between her and Mary Pierce. She was first one to rush to her side and give her ice. Some players would just stay on their side of the court and let the trainers do their work.

CloudAtlas
Mar 24th, 2009, 04:20 PM
Well, she made the YEC finals beating Dementieva, Kuznetsova, Jankovic and Ivanovic. I don't know what else you want from her.




YEC<<<<<<<<<<<<Grand Slam. In a GS everyone is in a different state of mind.

As we saw in her AO SF she was letting her emotions get to her even though she was playing well throughout the tournament , far better than Safina (who was just atrocious for a #3 seed) but when it got down to it she got all squinky again and couldn't handle it. And that was just a SF. If she ever gets to a final against a WS or someone similar she would really struggle.

CloudAtlas
Mar 24th, 2009, 04:23 PM
and who is to say that top player won't be hitting errors at the FO too!!



Unforced errors = fine
Unforced errors on Ivanovic/Azarenka/Wozniacki IW 2009 level = not fine

Direwolf
Mar 25th, 2009, 05:42 AM
As long as she doesnt
Run into Venus...

Cuz right now...
only Venus can beat
a very top Class Vera

:)

Dawn Marie
Mar 25th, 2009, 05:59 AM
IW was depleted field. FO is a high powered clay slam. She has a solid game, but will not win the FO. Serena Williams will win that. I do think Elena D can do it. She has the STAMINA to win it this year.

Br'er Rabbit
Mar 25th, 2009, 06:17 AM
People seem to have short term memory. Serena has made it to three back to back grand slam finals on 3(some may consider the court at the AO a hardcourt) different surfaces, and there's no reason why I think she couldn't win at the French. The other favorite is of course Ana, but that's only because she's the defending champion and has that confidence there. With the way Venus has played so far this year, she could be a threat aswell as Elena.

switz
Mar 25th, 2009, 06:43 AM
no no no. i do not want to see that. i'd be happy for her to win a slam but it would pretty much ensure the tournament would be a snooze fest. Vera is the most steady player on tour but she doesn't beat the likes of Serena when they're playing well.

SM
Mar 25th, 2009, 08:27 AM
I'd also love to see Dementieva win it, she deserves a slam and I think her best shot will be on clay........