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Langers
Mar 22nd, 2009, 11:12 AM
Which you you prefer and WHY?

Personally I prefer Indian Wells. I just think the back to back nature of these events leaves players very tired for Miami and the best players often struggle to produce their best tennis. And the IW Tennis Garden is just magnificent. :worship:

Sam L
Mar 22nd, 2009, 11:19 AM
Miami has A LOT more history and seen as more prestigious.

But the Indian Wells tennis center and the background with the mountains is just beautiful.

I prefer Miami as a tournament still.

Renalicious
Mar 22nd, 2009, 12:01 PM
Historically Miami has always been a bigger tournament, and judging by the matches this year and last year (even though Miami hasn't been played this year), the players seem to play better at Miami. There's been tons and tons of low quality matches this year, while Miami offers a lot of exciting finals (ie 2008, 2007 and Venus vs. Capriati)

serenus_2k8
Mar 22nd, 2009, 12:05 PM
Please, Miami is much better

Adal
Mar 22nd, 2009, 12:06 PM
Miami all the way.

TheBoiledEgg
Mar 22nd, 2009, 12:09 PM
Miami has A LOT more history and seen as more prestigious.

But the Indian Wells tennis center and the background with the mountains is just beautiful.

I prefer Miami as a tournament still.

a LOT ?? 2 or 3 years isnt alot.

Uranium
Mar 22nd, 2009, 12:37 PM
Miami.

jjcrew#1
Mar 22nd, 2009, 12:54 PM
Miami. It seems like many players look foward to Miami more than IW

Sexysova
Mar 22nd, 2009, 01:03 PM
I prefer the 5th GS ;)

pwayne
Mar 22nd, 2009, 01:08 PM
Indian Wells 'cuz of the scenic atmosphere.

The_roof
Mar 22nd, 2009, 01:13 PM
Miami!!!

ElusiveChanteuse
Mar 22nd, 2009, 01:15 PM
Even some of the top players tanked their matches in IW to get enough rest for Miami, so this is more than enough to say Miami is better.:worship:

Dawson.
Mar 22nd, 2009, 01:16 PM
Miami for me. It's always been seen as more prestigous, and even though both are now on par with each other in terms of points and prize money, Miami will still be thought of as the more valued tournement of the two. Both have a beautiful backdrop, but again I think Miami has the edge. From a viewer in the UK's point of view, it's better to watch because of the time difference. And it has both Williams sisters. Like them or not, there is no denying that an event is not the same without them. Plus some of my all time favourites have won the title - Kuzzy & Clijsters :D

Cp6uja
Mar 22nd, 2009, 01:21 PM
Indian Wells because Ana results since 2002 WTA Miami was private tournament owned by Serena Williams (lose just one match in last 7 years) :shrug:

Since this season Money Prize was equal, mandatory status and ranking points are same, so since this year no more reasons to favor Miami at all :wavey:.

Dodoboy.
Mar 22nd, 2009, 01:25 PM
Miami!

Every year it has a better field :shrug:

Some people are confusing Venue with quality of tennis.

nevetssllim
Mar 22nd, 2009, 01:34 PM
Miami - Indian Wells is always the ugly sister out of the two.

Shvedbarilescu
Mar 22nd, 2009, 01:48 PM
I would go with Miami, but not by some huge margin. I don't subscribe to the "Miami is great, Indian Wells is crap" line of thinking however.

I'd also say that in terms of fitness these two tournaments are amongst the least demanding in women's tennis. Yes, they can both get quite hot but the same can be said about a great many outdoor events. The thing Miami and Indian Wells have going in their favour is that as two week tournaments players normally have a day off between matches. Playing 4 to 6 matches, which would mean for a seeded playing getting to the quarters or better, over a two week period isn't that demanding at all. Certainly not compared to the clay season when the girls have to play the Italian Open and Madrid back to back. Those events are 64 player draws, although as I understand it the Semi Finalists at the Italian will get a bye into the 2nd round of Madrid. Even so, that still means players face the possibility of 11 matches over two weeks on clay, a surface that tends to produce much longer more physically demanding matches. Now that is physically demanding.

Frankly there is no reason a player shouldn't physically be able to do well at both Indian Wells and Miami. It is the back to back one week events, especially those with six rounds that can be tough on a player fitnesswise.

Kipling
Mar 22nd, 2009, 01:51 PM
Haven't been to IW but I can vouch for Miami's fun atmosphere. It's such a cosmopolitan city. You meet fans there from every corner of the globe.

Langers
Mar 22nd, 2009, 01:52 PM
Even some of the top players tanked their matches in IW to get enough rest for Miami, so this is more than enough to say Miami is better.:worship:
Proof?

Kipling
Mar 22nd, 2009, 01:53 PM
I would go with Miami, but not by some huge margin. I don't subscribe to the "Miami is great, Indian Wells is crap" line of thinking however.

I'd also say that in terms of fitness these two tournaments are amongst the least demanding in women's tennis. Yes, they can both get quite hot but the same can be said about a great many outdoor events. The thing Miami and Indian Wells have going in their favour is that as two week tournaments players normally have a day off between matches. Playing 4 to 6 matches, which would mean for a seeded playing getting to the quarters or better, over a two week period isn't that demanding at all. Certainly not compared to the clay season when the girls have to play the Italian Open and Madrid back to back. Those events are 64 player draws, although as I understand it the Semi Finalists at the Italian will get a bye into the 2nd round of Madrid. Even so, that still means players face the possibility of 11 matches over two weeks on clay, a surface that tends to produce much longer more physically demanding matches.

Frankly there is no reason a player shouldn't physically be able to do well at both Indian Wells and Miami. It is the back to back one week events, especially those with six rounds that can be tough on a player fitnesswise.


Actually, Miami is not hot at this time of year. THe normal weather pattern is upper 70's to low 80's with winds from the NE off the Atlantic, making for quite beautiful weather actually. The biggest problem is the wind, which can be quite gusty.

Shvedbarilescu
Mar 22nd, 2009, 02:03 PM
Actually, Miami is not hot at this time of year. THe normal weather pattern is upper 70's to low 80's with winds from the NE off the Atlantic, making for quite beautiful weather actually. The biggest problem is the wind, which can be quite gusty.

Oh yeah, normally the tempertures aren't that high certainly compared to several other locations the tour goes to. It does get a rather humid sometimes in Miami but yeah Miami isn't generally one of the hottest stops on the tour. As I said previously, with decent conciditions and a spread out schedule, Miami and Indian Wells are not amongst the most physically demanding events out there, far from it.

bandabou
Mar 22nd, 2009, 02:56 PM
Indian Wells because Ana results since 2002 WTA Miami was private tournament owned by Serena Williams (lose just one match in last 7 years) :shrug:

:lol: Impressive, huh?! Going for no.6!!

volta
Mar 22nd, 2009, 02:59 PM
Miami

no not because i'm a WS fan but because of the overall quality of the matches , imo it has alot more classic stuff then IW (wta wise) oh and i love the crowd

Tennisstar86
Mar 22nd, 2009, 03:05 PM
Miami!

Every year it has a better field :shrug:

Some people are confusing Venue with quality of tennis.

exactly, you can put all the pretty colors you want around a turd, its still gonna stink like one......

Indian Wells draws have sucked the past few years, and its not just the Williams sisters... other player dont want to go there either. Justine skipped it last year... the draws are week, the only reason this tournament hasnt been downgraded and was made "mandatory" is because some old rich people around there have money tied up in the tour.... trust me...

AnnaK_4ever
Mar 22nd, 2009, 04:08 PM
IW because there are no rain delays.

Volcana
Mar 22nd, 2009, 04:21 PM
Which you you prefer and WHY?Miami. Better players.

However, something little discussed hurt IW big time, IMHO. The cancellation of the Scottsdale tournament. Scottsdale was a really good Tier II. Most years, they had eight or nine top ten players. One reason, it gave the players a chance to adjust after flying over the Atlantic (or Pacific, in some case) and then gave them a chance at a whole week of competitive tennis to adjust to American hardcourts. And, in relative terms, the trip from Arizona to Cali is pretty short. That's gone now. And, imho, it's hurt the quality of play, for the women, at IW. Dubai is a VERY lucrative replacement. But it's 9000 miles from Indian Wells.

Then they fly back 3000, and the Williams sisters are rested, and essentially playing a home game.

bobbynorwich
Mar 22nd, 2009, 04:38 PM
Indian Wells: no humidity, no rain delays, better facilities, star power, beautiful setting, little congestion, and all those golf courses.

Dodoboy.
Mar 22nd, 2009, 04:49 PM
Proof?

Murray after his QF match.

I can't believe rain delays is a factor in the decision :rolls:

Wimbledon > Every other tournament

hankqq
Mar 22nd, 2009, 05:04 PM
Miami all the way! :rocker2: It just feels bigger and better. I like that Miami has a younger crowd too :shrug: In IW a lot of the fans are 45 and up, which makes sense since it's a resort area :lol: Miami is just a very fun, happenin' city :cool: Over the years, Miami has also had more exciting matches IMO :shrug:

Dave.
Mar 22nd, 2009, 05:07 PM
IW of course :hearts:

Miami has been alright through the years when a certain player bothered to show up :angel:

LindsayRulz
Mar 22nd, 2009, 05:48 PM
IW :worship:

gmokb
Mar 22nd, 2009, 05:50 PM
For me its Miami as the tournament is more interesting with the WS playing.

RJWCapriati
Mar 22nd, 2009, 10:21 PM
Miami for sure......just everything about it is superior to Indian Wells.

Emina.
Mar 22nd, 2009, 10:22 PM
Miami.

new-york
Mar 22nd, 2009, 10:25 PM
Miami, my fav plays.

miffedmax
Mar 22nd, 2009, 10:30 PM
Miami.


There are ZATs that put on a better show than IW.

slamchamp
Mar 22nd, 2009, 10:42 PM
Miami of course

égalité
Mar 22nd, 2009, 10:50 PM
I thank Langers like IW more because the competition is more shallow and Ana Mugvanovic can actually do well there. :spit:

I like them both the same. Miami because it has the aura of a major and IW because it's totally crazy every year.

QUEENLINDSAY
Mar 22nd, 2009, 10:50 PM
IW by a mile!
It's like a Grandslam atmosphere. The venue, the crowd, the players, the matches!! ...

JSeles
Mar 22nd, 2009, 10:58 PM
Both tournaments are great. I went to Miami twice (2007 and 2008) and to Indian Wells once (this year). If you want my personal opinion as a photographer (amateur that is), I vote IW. You can get very close to the players, especially on practice courts (all of them). You can take shots from angles that are impossible in Miami. Plus, IW is beautiful and it's always sunny. So if you like to take tennis pictures, I say go to Indian Wells. I will go back next year that is for sure! Now I would also say Indian Wells for the quality of tennis because my favorite player is Ana Ivanovic and she has always done great in California. :-)

rjd1111
Mar 22nd, 2009, 11:10 PM
Which you you prefer and WHY?

Personally I prefer Indian Wells. I just think the back to back nature of these events leaves players very tired for Miami and the best players often struggle to produce their best tennis. And the IW Tennis Garden is just magnificent. :worship:

If all rhe rest of the top players would stop playing

there then it would fade away. Then that Problem would

be solved

rjd1111
Mar 22nd, 2009, 11:12 PM
a LOT ?? 2 or 3 years isnt alot.

try since 2001

Olórin
Mar 22nd, 2009, 11:15 PM
Miami obviously. Simply a superior event in every way.

Andrew..
Mar 22nd, 2009, 11:22 PM
However, something little discussed hurt IW big time, IMHO. The cancellation of the Scottsdale tournament. Scottsdale was a really good Tier II. Most years, they had eight or nine top ten players. One reason, it gave the players a chance to adjust after flying over the Atlantic (or Pacific, in some case) and then gave them a chance at a whole week of competitive tennis to adjust to American hardcourts. And, in relative terms, the trip from Arizona to Cali is pretty short. That's gone now. And, imho, it's hurt the quality of play, for the women, at IW. Dubai is a VERY lucrative replacement. But it's 9000 miles from Indian Wells.
That is a very good point, which I've never thought of. The schedule change has really effected IW. But the ATP faces the same challenge with their schedule, and yet their players deliver like Domino's for this event, and all have nothing but positive things to say about it. I don't know why this is such a challenge for the women, but not the men.

Привет
Mar 23rd, 2009, 12:11 AM
I get more excited for Miami, BUT I wish they hadn't of changed the court. :rolleyes:

BRING BACK THE GREEN ON GREEN! :mad:

Temperenka
Mar 23rd, 2009, 12:53 AM
Miami. They are 2 (sisters) up on Indian Wells.

Dawn Marie
Mar 23rd, 2009, 04:40 AM
Miami. Miami is such a multicultral city. Tennis is a multicultral playing game. They both go hand in hand. Miami is artsy and so art deco. It just feels like Miami is a just a tourney in the states but also has an Island kind of feel to it.. Indian Wells, seems like another Cali tourney with a lot of wind. Boring imho. I actually thik Dubai has IW beat in popularity. Miami also has so much tennis history in it's short lifespan. Miami has a lot of FLAVOR where as IW seems like a plain ole vanilla cone with no toppings. I can think of many great matches at Miami but few in IW.
Honestly, you even get the sense that all the players really enjoy competing in Florida. So when the fans can feel the intensity through the players it makes the tourney so much more interesting and full of life. It seems that California isn't that much of a hot bed for tennis tourneys like it use to be.

Kworb
Mar 23rd, 2009, 04:41 AM
Miami, IW is a joke

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 23rd, 2009, 04:46 AM
The Grand Slam of Latin America :rocker2:

Julian.
Mar 23rd, 2009, 07:59 AM
Indian Wells for me.

LucasArg
Mar 23rd, 2009, 08:13 AM
Miami, 94 o

LucasArg
Mar 23rd, 2009, 08:14 AM
Miami, 94 of 100 top players in.

DeLorean
Mar 23rd, 2009, 10:21 AM
I like IW mainly because of the amazing tennis centre

santhuruu
Mar 23rd, 2009, 11:26 AM
By far Miami!

Lulu.
Mar 23rd, 2009, 02:33 PM
Miami easily. IW doesn't even come close.

Sonja
Mar 23rd, 2009, 02:34 PM
Ditto ^

!BlondBangs!
Mar 23rd, 2009, 02:35 PM
Indian Wells !!!