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liuxuan
Mar 21st, 2009, 11:33 AM
If anyone had said this at anytime over the last 6 months they would have beeen laughed out of court! however, I think its true now!

Shes not been totally on fire this week - but who has?? Her game has been getting more and more solid since the beginning of the year, and I think if she wins the final then her confidence will really improve aswell! We'll see how she goes at Miami, but ana is most comfortable on clay and after some match practise, i wuold definately pick her to beat safina, jankovic, dementieva, and pretty much everyone else apart from venus and serena.

and theres nowhere she would have a better chance against venus and serena than at roland garros!

mckyle.
Mar 21st, 2009, 11:34 AM
Don't forget about Maria!

Slutiana
Mar 21st, 2009, 11:35 AM
And Brie!

Nikkiri
Mar 21st, 2009, 11:36 AM
And Brie!

AnD tAti!!!1111

mckyle.
Mar 21st, 2009, 11:39 AM
And Brie!

I'm not interested, thanks.

Mashafaaaaan
Mar 21st, 2009, 11:40 AM
Ana beating Dementieva, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT:lol:

Adal
Mar 21st, 2009, 11:40 AM
What is Roland Garr? A new tournament or smth?

liuxuan
Mar 21st, 2009, 11:41 AM
What is Roland Garr? A new tournament or smth?
ill excuse that comment, youre clearly too pedantic to function!

Sam L
Mar 21st, 2009, 12:01 PM
I still think Venus is going to win.

liuxuan
Mar 21st, 2009, 12:11 PM
I still think Venus is going to win.

me too actually, and i really hope she does!!wouldnt be surprised to see ana win too tho

babuska6
Mar 21st, 2009, 01:53 PM
Don't forget about Maria!

Sorry,but when you are talking about Maria Sharapova,I think that we can forget her...Roland Garros is not playing on her favourite surface and who knows if she will play in Paris...

SAEKeithSerena
Mar 21st, 2009, 02:04 PM
Serena will cream her.

COSAT
Mar 21st, 2009, 02:05 PM
Don't forget about Maria!

kirilenko has not chance to win it :p

vadin124
Mar 21st, 2009, 02:28 PM
kirilenko has not chance to win it :p

Lil Masha is good on clay :p

Joana
Mar 21st, 2009, 02:29 PM
I still think Venus is going to win.

No, Serena will.

tennnisfannn
Mar 21st, 2009, 02:34 PM
I will not be surprised if she defends RG, winning it last year was the shcok coz she had accomplished so littel on clay, her game had been almost non existent in the lead up tournies.

goldenlox
Mar 21st, 2009, 02:37 PM
Anyone who believes this should go bet her.

slamchamp
Mar 21st, 2009, 02:53 PM
you base your opinion because ana is in the final of IW?? did you see the jokes she had to beat to reach this final?? a grand slam is not like that:awww:

Beny
Mar 21st, 2009, 03:04 PM
If anyone had said this at anytime over the last 6 months they would have beeen laughed out of court! however, I think its true now!

Shes not been totally on fire this week - but who has?? Her game has been getting more and more solid since the beginning of the year, and I think if she wins the final then her confidence will really improve aswell! We'll see how she goes at Miami, but ana is most comfortable on clay and after some match practise, i wuold definately pick her to beat safina, jankovic, dementieva, and pretty much everyone else apart from venus and serena.

and theres nowhere she would have a better chance against venus and serena than at roland garros!

I would have said it anytime since her win last year. She's clearly been one of the best clay courters, winning Berlin, reaching RG final, then winning RG.
Ivanovic, Safina the main contenders. They can always play on clay
Dementieva and Jankovic-if she gets her old body back :rolleyes:

WS can't play on clay

Keegan
Mar 21st, 2009, 03:08 PM
I reckon she'll be too pressured by the idea of defending a Grand Slam. I wouldn't put money on it.

Temperenka
Mar 21st, 2009, 03:33 PM
I think she should have a chance, but I do agree that defending her first grand slam will probably be a bit nerve wracking for her. Hopefully Jelena plays well again and it is a dogfight among Ana, Serena, Venus, Jelena, Elena, Dinara, Aga, and Vika to win the title. :drool: What a quarterfinal line-up!!
Really though, it is going to be a serb, Dinara, or Serena. I still don't think Venus can break through. :sad:

MarieC
Mar 21st, 2009, 06:20 PM
If the current play of Safina and Jankovic keeps up Ana stands a very good chance to defend. The biggest roadblocks for her would be Serena and Dementieva

MaBaker
Mar 21st, 2009, 06:24 PM
No, Jelena will win RG.

sweetpeas
Mar 21st, 2009, 06:24 PM
As long as it's a Williams.Or ELENA D.

Vanity Bonfire
Mar 21st, 2009, 06:27 PM
Let's see who Ivanovic has beaten on the way to the final of IW shall we?

2R - Yakimova
3R - Dulko
4R - Pennetta
QF - Bammer (who withdrew)
SF - Pavlyuchenkova

The only time a Grand Slam draw to the final would look like this was if there was a mass boycott. If she wins tonight, it will only be because Bepa can't play finals.

The Daviator
Mar 21st, 2009, 07:01 PM
Let's see who Ivanovic has beaten on the way to the final of IW shall we?

2R - Yakimova
3R - Dulko
4R - Pennetta
QF - Bammer (who withdrew)
SF - Pavlyuchenkova

The only time a Grand Slam draw to the final would look like this was if there was a mass boycott. If she wins tonight, it will only be because Bepa can't play finals.

And who will stop her besides the Williams? Dementieva lost to Cetkovska, JJ lost to Pavly who Ana beat 2 & 3 last night. Nobody is playing well right now.

edificio
Mar 21st, 2009, 07:03 PM
Perhaps, since a big serve is not a requirement. I hope she manages the semis, though.

The Dawntreader
Mar 21st, 2009, 07:07 PM
A defending champ always has a good chance. Unless they're in absolute pits form wise (ie Myskina in '05), a repeat performance is never unquestionable.

Ana has intimate knowledge of how to win at RG. Plus she's going to be the only RG champ in the draw, bar Serena come RG. That counts for a lot.

slamchamp
Mar 21st, 2009, 07:09 PM
And who will stop her besides the Williams? Dementieva lost to Cetkovska, JJ lost to Pavly who Ana beat 2 & 3 last night. Nobody is playing well right now.Then you are right:), I forgot that was ther only scenario where ana can win a GS

In The Zone
Mar 21st, 2009, 07:11 PM
ill excuse that comment, youre clearly too pedantic to function!

:rolls: Loves it.

But considering you admit you would take her over everyone but Venus and Serena, picking the 3rd best person isn't necessarily a very good bet. It's an okay bet.

The Daviator
Mar 21st, 2009, 07:19 PM
Then you are right:), I forgot that was ther only scenario where ana can win a GS

Get over your obsession with Ana please, go look at pictures of Maria or something :o

morningglory
Mar 21st, 2009, 07:27 PM
Serena wasnt there in IW, but she'll be in Paris...

VOR
Mar 21st, 2009, 07:33 PM
Pointless thread

One of the Williams sisters WILL win RG

They will also win Wimbledon and the US Open this year too.

We all know it, so why prelong the facts?

Fact is, when either of the sisters can be bothered there is no one on the tour that's touching them...

дalex
Mar 21st, 2009, 07:41 PM
Serena wasnt there in IW, but she'll be in Paris...

http://i39.tinypic.com/2vcby1c.jpg

Slutiana
Mar 21st, 2009, 07:47 PM
AnD tAti!!!1111
:o, come on Nikkie, shes playing better but let her beat a top 10 player who can play in finals before we even think about winning another Slam. :speakles:

Kworb
Mar 21st, 2009, 07:49 PM
http://www.wow-koh-i-noor.co.uk/images/20060124GarrFirstKill.jpg

Tennisstar86
Mar 21st, 2009, 08:06 PM
If her draw is as big of a joke as it was last year.... sure why not....

Cakeisgood
Mar 21st, 2009, 08:11 PM
Why are people picking Vee to win FO all of a sudden?!!?!? WTF!?!?!?

Horizon
Mar 21st, 2009, 08:14 PM
If her draw is as big of a joke as it was last year.... sure why not....
Not her fault Serena decided to crash out in R3 and the other side of the draw was demolished by Safina, who Ana then beat comfortably :)

Ana was the best player in the 128 player draw, which yes, included the WS, so get over yourself :)

mboyle
Mar 21st, 2009, 08:16 PM
I've been saying that for months. The struggle bus was always going to make a stop at some point...even if you are Nicole Vaidisova and take the Struggle underwater Stagecoach from Florida to Russia via the Bearing Strait.:tape:

The Daviator
Mar 21st, 2009, 08:17 PM
Ana was by far the best at RG last year, if she plays like she did last year then only WS can stop her.

Cp6uja
Mar 21st, 2009, 08:25 PM
Pointless thread

One of the Williams sisters WILL win RG

They will also win Wimbledon and the US Open this year too.

We all know it, so why prelong the facts?

Fact is, when either of the sisters can be bothered there is no one on the tour that's touching them...

Fact is (ROLAND GARROS):
A. Ivanovic - 1 RG Title and 1 RG Final from 4 Roland Garros tournaments which played so far (W/L 19-3, 86%)
W. Sisters - 1 RG Title and 1 RG Final from 20 Roland Garros tournaments which played so far (W/L 66-19, 77%)

VOR
Mar 21st, 2009, 08:54 PM
Fact is (ROLAND GARROS):
A. Ivanovic - 1 RG Title and 1 RG Final from 4 Roland Garros tournaments which played so far (W/L 19-3, 86%)
W. Sisters - 1 RG Title and 1 RG Final from 20 Roland Garros tournaments which played so far (W/L 66-19, 77%)
Since you are so good with "facts", I mean stats, why don't you disclose the slams won, finals and win / loss records for the other slams?

Didn't think so... LMAO

Like I said when the Williams sisters can be bothered they can and will win it all.

MagicMilan
Mar 21st, 2009, 09:17 PM
Since you are so good with "facts", I mean stats, why don't you disclose the slams won, finals and win / loss records for the other slams?

Didn't think so... LMAO

Like I said when the Williams sisters can be bothered they can and will win it all.
What's the point of this post? :rolleyes:
Serena and Venus have achieved more on grass and hard courts.
Ana has accomplished more on clay courts than both Serena and Venus. End of story

Nikkiri
Mar 21st, 2009, 09:41 PM
Slamchamp stalking Ana threads :rolls:

Tennisstar86
Mar 21st, 2009, 09:47 PM
Not her fault Serena decided to crash out in R3 and the other side of the draw was demolished by Safina, who Ana then beat comfortably :)

Ana was the best player in the 128 player draw, which yes, included the WS, so get over yourself :)

You get over yourself, lol no it isnt her fault that the draw fell apart, which is why is said if they happens AGAIN, she has a shot at winning again. Its alot easier for the "up and coming" players to get the big upset early on in a tournament when they dont really have the pressure on them than it is at the end. So if Roland Garros is litered with upsets Ana could walk away with the title... I dont think it will be though, so i wouldnt put any money on Ana....... My money would go on a williams sister, Zvonereva, or Dementieva....
anyways....

What's the point of this post? :rolleyes:
Serena and Venus have achieved more on grass and hard courts.
Ana has accomplished more on clay courts than both Serena and Venus. End of story

No Ana has NOT accomplished more on clays courts than both serena and Venus. lol lets not kid ourselves. Correct me if Im wrong, but Ana has *1* title on clay....

Venus has 8 clay court titles...(Im pretty sure she leads the tour i could be wrong though...)
Serena has 3 clay court titles..... :D

danieln1
Mar 21st, 2009, 09:57 PM
I think only Serena is a threat to Ana in Roland Garros, and I think she will defend it rather successfully!

Matt01
Mar 21st, 2009, 09:58 PM
Correct me if Im wrong, but Ana has *1* title on clay....


You are wrong :D

Tennisstar86
Mar 21st, 2009, 10:01 PM
You are wrong :D

thanks, lol.... i looked it up already... shes got all of *2* titles... my mistake.... all hail Ana queen of clay with her 2 titles...:rolleyes:

Craig.
Mar 21st, 2009, 10:15 PM
thanks, lol.... i looked it up already... shes got all of *2* titles... my mistake.... all hail Ana queen of clay with her 2 titles...:rolleyes:

The 2 biggest titles. :shrug:

BuTtErFrEnA
Mar 21st, 2009, 10:19 PM
I will not be surprised if she defends RG, winning it last year was the shcok coz she had accomplished so littel on clay, her game had been almost non existent in the lead up tournies.

last year wasn't a shock :shrug: she had shown the previous year that she had what it took to win RG, and was nervous in her 1st GS final...the only people shocked would be those who thought she would never win anything...

BuTtErFrEnA
Mar 21st, 2009, 10:20 PM
You are wrong :D

:rolls:

youizahoe
Mar 21st, 2009, 10:37 PM
2009 Serena Williams
2010 Maria Sharapova
2011 Venus Williams
2012 Serena Williams
2013 Jelena Jankovic

MagicMilan
Mar 21st, 2009, 10:42 PM
No Ana has NOT accomplished more on clays courts than both serena and Venus. lol lets not kid ourselves. Correct me if Im wrong, but Ana has *1* title on clay....

Venus has 8 clay court titles...(Im pretty sure she leads the tour i could be wrong though...)
Serena has 3 clay court titles..... :D
Yes she has, all other tournaments are irrelevant compared to Roland Garros.
Everybody here is saying that only slams matter, no need to make double standards now

duhcity
Mar 21st, 2009, 10:44 PM
If her draw is as big of a joke as it was last year.... sure why not....

Serena's Wimbledon Draw last year was kinda a joke too, where Venus then put Serena in her place in the final :hearts:

youizahoe
Mar 21st, 2009, 11:39 PM
Serena's Wimbledon Draw last year was kinda a joke too, where Venus then put Serena in her place in the final :hearts:

She was lucky, Serena lost intensity, or venus was out 62 62.

Emina.
Mar 22nd, 2009, 12:05 AM
2009 Serena Williams
2010 Maria Sharapova
2011 Venus Williams
2012 Serena Williams
2013 Jelena Jankovic

:inlove:

Olórin
Mar 22nd, 2009, 12:24 AM
Serena's Wimbledon Draw last year was kinda a joke too, where Venus then put Serena in her place in the final :hearts:

Put her in her place in an hour and fourty minute match where Venus only won 7 more points? If Serena's place is being the only common denominator in decent Slam Finals these days, then sure she put her in her place.

Serena had to beat former Wimbledon Champion and multi-Grand Slam champion Amelie Mauresmo as well as Eastbourne winner Radwanska. You don't really get more acclaimed opponents than them on grass. :shrug:

Not that I would say Ana's RG was weak. Jankovic and Safina were worthy scalps.

If you're going to be facetious I would try adding at least a little bit of wit or flair.

The Dawntreader
Mar 22nd, 2009, 12:28 AM
She was lucky, Serena lost intensity, or venus was out 62 62.

Yeah and it was 'luck' that gave Serena 4 straight Slam finals over Venus?:rolleyes:

Dont be stupid on purpose.

FoxyliciousKhat
Mar 22nd, 2009, 12:28 AM
Why are people picking Vee to win FO all of a sudden?!!?!? WTF!?!?!?

Same question should be asked about the people picking Maria.

I would not be either at this point to win RG.

Foxy

BuTtErFrEnA
Mar 22nd, 2009, 01:30 AM
What's the point of this post? :rolleyes:
Serena and Venus have achieved more on grass and hard courts.
Ana has accomplished more on clay courts than both Serena and Venus. End of story

:weirdo: let's not get carried away...serena and ana have a tier I title and RG title...

youizahoe
Mar 22nd, 2009, 01:34 AM
Yeah and it was 'luck' that gave Serena 4 straight Slam finals over Venus?:rolleyes:

Dont be stupid on purpose.

If you saw the match, you saw Serena was a very solid player at start. If she kept the steam on, no way venus would have won more than 6 games.

OsloErik
Mar 22nd, 2009, 01:44 AM
Jury is still out. When Ivanovic won Indian Wells last year, she played very well. She played very well for five matches in Australia too. And then she played very well in Paris. This year, she has played markedly worse against markedly worse opponents. Until she looks like she can beat top 10ers back-to-back-to-back (which you almost always have to do to win a slam), I'm not confident. She hasn't beaten one this year, yet. She's only beaten one top 20 player, in fact.

The only thing Ivanovic has going for her on clay at the moment is that the only other decent clay courters are playing roughly even with her. Safina is probably a touch better, Jankovic a touch worse, Kuznetsova around even. Serena and Venus aren't really clay courters, but they are better players in general, and if they play well on clay and Ivanovic still looks like this, the result should be pretty clear. And she's likely (50/50) to face one of them in the QF.

I'll add to it: if Ivanovic almost lost to Pennetta, who is a mess this season, on a hardcourt, what do you think will happen on clay? I'm annoyed to see Ivanovic playing badly, and even more so because she keeps winning in SPITE of playing badly. She's not going to return to top 5 quality if she isn't adjusting, and winning with a mediocre game doesn't force you to adjust.

The Daviator
Mar 22nd, 2009, 01:53 AM
Erik, did you see the SF? Ana played extremely well by all accounts, and if she's to win IW she'll have to beat an in-form top-tenner, Pennetta has her ups and downs, but she's a quality player who's beaten many top players over the years :shrug:

OsloErik
Mar 22nd, 2009, 02:04 AM
Erik, did you see the SF? Ana played extremely well by all accounts, and if she's to win IW she'll have to beat an in-form top-tenner, Pennetta has her ups and downs, but she's a quality player who's beaten many top players over the years :shrug:

I did see the semifinal, and I was simply unimpressed by Pavlyuchenkova (JESUS, that name is ridiculous). I don't know if she was exhausted or mentally gone or what, but she moved and served pretty mediocre-ly for a player as talked about as she is. Ivanovic played a smart, consistent game style, but her serve remained unfocused. I want to see her play and win a match against a top 20 player where her ball toss doesn't go awry more than three or four times all match. And since she's looking at ONE (count it, ONE) top 20 win thus far, and it was ugly, tonight is her next chance.

I agree that Pennetta is usually a quality opponent, but not this year. She's got ONE top 20 win, as well, over Alize Cornet off of clay, and one marginally quality result in Fed Cup in that nightmare against Mauresmo. On the negative end, she's lost to: Rybarikova (!!!), Anabel Medina Garrigues, Masa Zec Peskiric (???), got butchered by Venus on clay, and Babs Strycova. That's a crappy season for a top 20 player, especially for one that looked for all the world like she could crack the top 10 at the end of last year.

Until Ivanovic has a more impressive body of work in terms of wins this season (again, tonight is a golden opportunity, although I must admit I do love watching Zvonareva slap those angles well) OR a more impressive body of work in terms of playing slam-winning tennis from out of nowhere (also known as the Serena Method), I am not picking her as a pre-tournament favorite in Paris. She's got a month and a half to change my mind. Ball is in her court, since it's US college Basketball season.

The Daviator
Mar 22nd, 2009, 02:09 AM
I agree she's not at her early 2008 level at all, but to get there she needs a major confidence boost, and a title here would do that, no matter how she's playing, it would be a relief after all the struggles and I think we could see her relax and put in a strong clay season, I definitely think she's improved since Australia, that Ana would have lost to Pennetta.

Mikey.
Mar 22nd, 2009, 02:29 AM
I think Ana has a very good chance of defending her title if she keeps improving as she has been. If she doesn't win then I expect Serena or Dinara to probably win it. Maybe Jelena at a long shot, depending how she is playing during the clay season.

Balltossovic
Mar 22nd, 2009, 03:04 AM
Since you are so good with "facts", I mean stats, why don't you disclose the slams won, finals and win / loss records for the other slams?

Didn't think so... LMAO

Like I said when the Williams sisters can be bothered they can and will win it all.
Serena and Venus are what 27 and 28? Ana is 21 of course they've done more at slams. They've played more. So stop making yourself look like an a$$:wavey:

No one is questioning the acomplishments of the Williams sisters.

Balltossovic
Mar 22nd, 2009, 03:16 AM
Ana has played four RG's has a QF, RD3, Final, and the trophy. It's obvious that over the years she's gotten better and better on clay.

Ana hasn't done much so far this year but we're talking about different surfaces people. Ana will always do well on clay because she has so much more time to set up that monster FH of hers (if it's on)

While normally Venus and Serena would be hard match ups for Ana, I would actually pick Ana agaisnt any of them on clay or RG I should say. Venus since her final has not done much neither has Serena since her title. I think Ana's best chance at a GS this year is RG so in response to the OP, yes. I think Ana is a VERY good bet at Roland Garros this year. :)

The 2nd Law
Mar 22nd, 2009, 04:17 AM
Hey everyone, this is my first ever post! :)
I love Ana, but I'll admit, I was doubtful as to whether she'd be able to defend RS this year.
Whilst she hasnt been at her best at IW, and she hasn't beaten many notable players, I think she will go far to prove herself a chance by winning the title, and her confidence will be the better for it. A confident Ana Ivanovic is a dangerous one!
I'm gonna back her to defend the title, and this is how I'd love her to do it:
Straight sets run to the QF, beat one of the WS, and one of Dementieva/Jankovic (preferably Dementieva). Then in the final I'd love straight sets victory against a top five player. :)
And just to point out, the WS are not invincible, didn't Ana beat Venus at Aus open in 08 ?

CJ07
Mar 22nd, 2009, 05:00 AM
If you saw the match, you saw Serena was a very solid player at start. If she kept the steam on, no way venus would have won more than 6 games.
Serena's form was unsustainable against a player like Venus. Against a slow player that can't necessarily do anything thing Serena can't like Sharapova maybe, but not Venus. Why? Because Serena couldn't hit winners on 120 MPH serves for 2 straight sets, not could shit hit passing shots against that wing span for two straight sets. All she could do was start to get frustrated by Venus getting things back and then Venus's serve, which is what of course happened. And Serena did not start spraying balls everywhere. Venus just picked it up, served better and moved Serena around. Venus won that match fair and square. Serena did not lose it, nor did she play poorly. Compared to when Serena beat Venus in her wins, Serena played MUCH better.

SM
Mar 22nd, 2009, 05:24 AM
She is as good of a chance to hoist the trophy aloft as any other contender, thats for sure, but only because Justine Henin retired prematurely.

Tennisstar86
Mar 22nd, 2009, 05:38 AM
Yes she has, all other tournaments are irrelevant compared to Roland Garros.
Everybody here is saying that only slams matter, no need to make double standards now

lol....You do know Serena has also won Roland garros right? lol... Ana doesnt have more accomplishments than both of them on clay. she doesnt have more accomplishments than either. We could pull out the doubles, but we dont even need to, cause Ana's singles career isnt even better.

Machi
Mar 22nd, 2009, 05:41 AM
Serena had a chance last year to win FO but did not.

morningglory
Mar 22nd, 2009, 05:55 AM
PPl comparing the # of years active between Serena and Ana need to keep one thing in mind: the presence of JHH, who was pretty much the clay court goddess. Had Justine not been in the picture, I think Serena would have at least one or two more RG titles...

Roookie
Mar 23rd, 2009, 02:15 AM
Ana is so not winning RG. Her perfomance in today's final (which she reached without a single top 10 win) was poor to say the least. Blame the wind if you want but she's playing a brainless agressive tennis and just keeps beating herself. She won't get away in later stages of tournamets with that kind of game and i'm not sure its about confidence anymore.

goldenlox
Mar 23rd, 2009, 02:23 AM
No one knows what will happen, but when your big win at a Tier I is against Flavia, that's nothing to crow about

Tennisstar86
Mar 23rd, 2009, 02:41 AM
exactly.... Ana's record against names of the past is still abismal..... Zvonereva who wasnt even that big of a name in the past is even in this list..... as i said her draw will have to open up.... She meets Sharapova, Zvonereva, Dementieva, Venus, Serena she'll go down in two easy sets...

Balltossovic
Mar 23rd, 2009, 02:53 AM
Why don't we wait to see how everyone is playing on clay before we start talking out of our asses:)

Nikkiri
Mar 23rd, 2009, 02:56 AM
exactly.... Ana's record against names of the past is still abismal..... Zvonereva who wasnt even that big of a name in the past is even in this list..... as i said her draw will have to open up.... She meets Sharapova, Zvonereva, Dementieva, Venus, Serena she'll go down in two easy sets...

On clay? :lol:

madlove
Mar 23rd, 2009, 02:57 AM
elena will win!

The 2nd Law
Mar 23rd, 2009, 03:50 AM
write Ana off at your own peril.

brickhousesupporter
Mar 23rd, 2009, 05:22 AM
:weirdo: let's not get carried away...serena and ana have a tier I title and RG title...

Serena has 2 tier 1 on clay......Rome and Family Circle Cup.