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AnomyBC
Mar 21st, 2009, 05:18 AM
Well???

Svetlana.
Mar 21st, 2009, 05:35 AM
Vera please win

Pasta-Na
Mar 21st, 2009, 05:37 AM
i think fist, veras moonballing cant trouble the big girls. :o

AnomyBC
Mar 21st, 2009, 05:38 AM
Now my poll has more comments than the other one :)

[That was in response to the first comment. Not the one above. I was waiting to see which one of us got a comment first :)]

LudwigDvorak
Mar 21st, 2009, 05:39 AM
Zvonareva:
2R - def. #63 Chan 62 62
3R - def. #46 Kvitova 63 61
4R - def. #45 Li 64 64
QF - def. #13 Wozniacki 64 62
SF - def. #11 Azarenka 63 63

Ivanovic:
2R - def. #95 Yakimova 64 63
3R - def. #36 Dulko 63 63
4R - def. #15 Pennetta 64 46 64
QF - def. #29 Bammer W/O
SF - def. #42 Pavlyuchenkova 62 63

Vera's had the better run, but I fear Ana's forehand will be too big. Vera's by definition a bad matchup for Ana, but we'll see. I hope she can get over her big final syndrome and take it home. It would be a somewhat pleasant end to an otherwise dire tournament.

tennnisfannn
Mar 21st, 2009, 05:43 AM
Vera's wins have been more comprehensive over players that were very dangerous
Ana knows how to win big. Ana wins this one.

mckyle.
Mar 21st, 2009, 05:44 AM
What a boring and typical final after such an exciting first week...

Svetlana.
Mar 21st, 2009, 05:44 AM
I hope she can get over her big final syndrome and take it home. It would be a somewhat pleasant end to an otherwise dire tournament.

oh it would indead :hearts:

Temperenka
Mar 21st, 2009, 05:46 AM
Please win, Ana.

Optima
Mar 21st, 2009, 05:48 AM
Davai Bepa :rocker2:

Josh.
Mar 21st, 2009, 05:49 AM
I hope Vera, in three.

Nikkiri
Mar 21st, 2009, 06:09 AM
Would be nice for Vera to finally win something big, but I think and hope Ana will take it.

Zojirushi
Mar 21st, 2009, 06:17 AM
Vera won the last meeting in 3 setters. I think it will be the same case this time.

Cp6uja
Mar 21st, 2009, 06:18 AM
Here is all Vera Zvonareva tier-II and above careers finals and if You see list of her opponents (all 7 former WTA #1 players) you will see why she still dont have any decent title:

# 2004: Cincinnati (lost to #4 Lindsay Davenport 36 26)
# 2004: Philadelphia (lost to #2 Amelie Mauresmo 63 26 26)
# 2008: Doha (lost to #5 Maria Sharapova 16 62 06)
# 2008: Charleston (lost to #9 Serena Williams 46 63 36)
# 2008: Moscow (lost to #1 Jelena Janković 26 46)
# 2008: Linz (lost to Ana Ivanović 26 16)
# 2008: Doha Championships (lost to Venus Williams 76 06 26)

She won set against Mauresmo, Sharapova, Serena and Venus where all this big tennis names played in very good shape. So theory that unlucky Vera (with opponents selection in finals) has "headcase" or whatever in finals is fake. In sunday she will play once again against former #1 player, but Vera seems that plays right now careers best tennis and Ana Ivanovic careers biggest crisis and slump is probably over, but she is for sure not at her peak. All that give some nice chances Vera to win finally some big title (and 4.5M$ IW two-weekers is really big one).

I'm with Ana of course, but I dont except that this time will be easy like at Linz 5 months ago.

Roookie
Mar 21st, 2009, 08:22 AM
Vera is going down. The only way Russians can win big titles is if her last name is Sharapova or the other player is also Russian, because only one can lose. :devil:

PizzaMan
Mar 21st, 2009, 08:28 AM
I originally predicted that the winner of the Elena/Ana QF would win the title. Elena even didn't make it that far, so I have to go with Ana by process of elimination.

Ana will win this and Vera will go through her typical emotional outbursts on the court. :lol:

adam_ads_n
Mar 21st, 2009, 08:32 AM
Vera will win in three (she finally has to win a good title!)

Nalla
Mar 21st, 2009, 08:34 AM
I hope Ana can and will win this.

In 3 :)

Sexysova
Mar 21st, 2009, 08:35 AM
I think this poll is unnecessary :o Vera officially sucks in finals :help: :sad:

Ivanovic 6-3 6-2

Marcelo.
Mar 21st, 2009, 11:11 AM
Vera, I hope : inlove: :inlove:

Cp6uja
Mar 21st, 2009, 12:05 PM
All this TF Polls results are still big secret for me. Ivanovic is traditionally (most) underrated player here in polls, but against red-hot in-form Zvonareva Ana got 70% votes so far. Real bookmakers odds (W.Hill for example) give Zvonareva-1.67, Ivanovic-2.20 odds for this final.

I Will repeat once again list of all Vera Zvonareva TIER-II or ABOVE careers finals:

# 2004: Cincinnati (lost to #4 Lindsay Davenport 36 26)
# 2004: Philadelphia (lost to #2 Amelie Mauresmo 63 26 26)
# 2008: Doha (lost to #5 Maria Sharapova 16 62 06)
# 2008: Charleston (lost to #9 Serena Williams 46 63 36)
# 2008: Moscow (lost to #1 Jelena Janković 26 46)
# 2008: Linz (lost to Ana Ivanović 26 16)
# 2008: Doha Championships (lost to Venus Williams 76 06 26)
# 2009: Indian Wells (******* Ana Ivanovic *******)


She is simple so unlucky that all her opponents are some of 18 WTA players which ever reach #1 spot in open era... so we don't have any really good proof of that "VERA IS HEADCASE IN BIG FINALS" theory? Where out of all this tournaments Vera should win? For example at "big finals" (tier-II and above) Anna Chakvetadze won 3 out of 4 which she played so far (75%, very good), but she must to play against Petrova, Mirza, Szavay and Wozniacki, where only Petrove ever reach TOP10, and Vera will play again (8th time in the row) against some opponent from WTA#1 Hall Of Fame List. So don't tell me Chaky>>>Vera in big finals b/c no relevant proofs for that - 75% vs 0% means nothing if You just look list of opponents.

According to Bookmakers: Vera-57% , Ana-43%
According to this Poll: Vera-30% , Ana-70%
Truth is probably between: Vera-45% , Ana-55% (IMO)

In October of last season when Ana and Vera playing Linz final Zvonareva "beat" Ana in WWW Poll here 56% vs 44% (http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=360898) without reason b/c Vera has status of WTA average TOP10 player, and Ana (WTA#1 two months before) seems like player which finally go away all that problems with slump connected to thumb injury, so no big surprise when Ana trashed her. But after that final in last 4-5 months Ana played like player in deep crisis without any decent result and Vera reach two careers best results YEC-Final and GS-SF. So what is so changed in perception of TennisForum voters to be so pesimistic this time about Vera chances? She trashed all her IW opponents in straigh sets, including 63 61 64 62 63 62 wins vs WTA biggest hopes Kvitova, Wozniacki and Azarenka, and Ana playing just against one TOP30 opponent (Pennetta) and won that match in tough three-setter!

Ziggy Starduck
Mar 21st, 2009, 12:17 PM
Ana should win in 2 sets unless she falls over in the stands amongst the spectators trying to retrieve one of her crazy ball tosses :lol:

aezzei
Mar 21st, 2009, 12:24 PM
Vera in 2 ^^

adrovi
Mar 21st, 2009, 12:24 PM
Ana 7-5, 6-4

HotSpot
Mar 21st, 2009, 12:30 PM
take the title vera...

Effy
Mar 21st, 2009, 12:31 PM
cmon Vera, time to win a real tourney :armed:

Lord Choc Ice
Mar 21st, 2009, 12:34 PM
Ana in 3.

Andreas
Mar 21st, 2009, 12:43 PM
Ana will win 60 76.

Lucemferre
Mar 21st, 2009, 12:53 PM
Zvonareva:
2R - def. #63 Chan 62 62
3R - def. #46 Kvitova 63 61
4R - def. #45 Li 64 64
QF - def. #13 Wozniacki 64 62
SF - def. #11 Azarenka 63 63

Ivanovic:
2R - def. #95 Yakimova 64 63
3R - def. #36 Dulko 63 63
4R - def. #15 Pennetta 64 46 64
QF - def. #29 Bammer W/O
SF - def. #42 Pavlyuchenkova 62 63

Vera's had the better run, but I fear Ana's forehand will be too big. Vera's by definition a bad matchup for Ana, but we'll see. I hope she can get over her big final syndrome and take it home. It would be a somewhat pleasant end to an otherwise dire tournament.

Ana's run :help:

That's a tier three draw at best :help:

MarieC
Mar 21st, 2009, 12:58 PM
Ana in 3

Andreas
Mar 21st, 2009, 12:59 PM
Ana's run :help:

That's a tier three draw at best :help:

It's not Ana's fault, that the players she beat actually beat the opponents she was seeded to play :)

BartoliBabes
Mar 21st, 2009, 01:40 PM
bepa in 3

babuska6
Mar 21st, 2009, 01:52 PM
Ana is in good form in Indian Wells..She will defend her title after the scoreline 7-5 2-6 6-3

miffedmax
Mar 21st, 2009, 01:58 PM
Head says Squeaky, but I'd love to see Bepa get a big scalp.

SAEKeithSerena
Mar 21st, 2009, 02:03 PM
Vera in 3!!!!!!

CloudAtlas
Mar 21st, 2009, 02:05 PM
Hopefully Ana , although Vera winning would be a fitting end to the worst IW ever.

vwfan
Mar 21st, 2009, 02:23 PM
Not sure. It may just be Vera's time to break through with a big win.

I like them both.

Nederlander RUS
Mar 21st, 2009, 02:25 PM
Vera win this plzzz!!!

Mashafaaaaan
Mar 21st, 2009, 02:30 PM
Not sure. It may just be Vera's time to break through with a big win.

I like them both.

Who cares?
I hope Vera will win, Ana's run wasn't impressive at all, she is so lucky with draws:mad:

Ryan
Mar 21st, 2009, 02:46 PM
Who cares?
I hope Vera will win, Ana's run wasn't impressive at all, she is so lucky with draws:mad:



:tape: You're such a troll.

eugreene2
Mar 21st, 2009, 03:00 PM
Ana easily

pwayne
Mar 21st, 2009, 03:02 PM
Vera will finally win a title above a Tier III in 3 sets.

Dodoboy.
Mar 21st, 2009, 03:10 PM
Does anyone else get the feeling that Ana has just stumbled and found her self in a Tier I final :lol:

AndreConrad
Mar 21st, 2009, 03:13 PM
I think Vera's form is in a slight decline while Ana may be on the rise, so my vote is on Ana in 3. It is very difficult call, however, so anything may happen. I like both players although neither of them is my favorite, but I will be happy with any result as long as the match will be a good event to watch and it will satisfy my craving for good tennis. :) Good luck to both

pica_pica
Mar 21st, 2009, 03:27 PM
It depends on how many UEs Ana makes perhaps. If she makes little errors, then she wins because she's too aggressive for Vera. Otherwise it's Vera coz she's hitting everything cleanly. Given Ana's new-found confidence, I'd say Ana in 3. Don't mind who wins and I expect a good match. Ana can gain confidence by defending a title and Vera deserves winning something big. Lucky they save face for top seeds.

AnnaK_4ever
Mar 21st, 2009, 03:45 PM
Ana will trash Vera :shrug:

ElusiveChanteuse
Mar 21st, 2009, 03:48 PM
Ana wins 2-6, 6-4, 6-3.

jjcrew#1
Mar 21st, 2009, 04:07 PM
Rootig for Vera but Ana seems really strong right night now!

Edy.
Mar 21st, 2009, 04:19 PM
Ana in 2 :)

Emina.
Mar 21st, 2009, 04:29 PM
Good luck Vera! :)

Olórin
Mar 21st, 2009, 04:30 PM
I just hope it's competitive and good :shrug:

Uranus
Mar 21st, 2009, 04:40 PM
Ana 64 64 :sad:. It's sad that a player has to play average tennis to win a Super Tier I or whatever it is called now.

BartoliBabes
Mar 21st, 2009, 04:52 PM
cmon vera.....

Adrian1092
Mar 21st, 2009, 04:58 PM
I'm really surprised to see Ana in the final :confused:
But really happy about it :bounce: Ana in 2 :D Ajde Ana!!!!

Vanity Bonfire
Mar 21st, 2009, 05:01 PM
I just hope Vera wins as Ana has done practically fuck all to get this far.

MagicMilan
Mar 21st, 2009, 05:19 PM
Ana 6-1 7-5
Ajde babygurl :rocker2:

KournikovaFan91
Mar 21st, 2009, 06:36 PM
Vera has faced tougher opposition but I dunno If she will win.

pav
Mar 21st, 2009, 07:49 PM
Bepa will need to have a fairly high% of 1st serves in as squeaky will attack her vunerable 2nd ones:help:I do dream of squeaky knocking herself half silly by hitting herself in the jaw with a misstimed one of her enormous celebratory ajde uppercuts!

Matt01
Mar 21st, 2009, 08:17 PM
Ana should win in 2 sets unless she falls over in the stands amongst the spectators trying to retrieve one of her crazy ball tosses :lol:


So mean :sad:

Craig.
Mar 21st, 2009, 08:29 PM
Does anyone else get the feeling that Ana has just stumbled and found her self in a Tier I final :lol:

:lol: Yeah.

Fililander
Mar 21st, 2009, 08:31 PM
I think Vera will lose the final as always:sad::sad:

cn ireland
Mar 21st, 2009, 09:31 PM
Ana in 3:bounce:!

BuTtErFrEnA
Mar 21st, 2009, 09:40 PM
Ana in 2 :bounce:

Nikkiri
Mar 21st, 2009, 09:47 PM
Who cares?
I hope Vera will win, Ana's run wasn't impressive at all, she is so lucky with draws:mad:

Not her fault Elena a player Ana has never beaten who would have been Ana's QF opponent lost to Cetkovska ffs. And that Jelena lost to the player Ana comfortably beat in the SF.

ANz
Mar 21st, 2009, 09:50 PM
Ana will be under huge pressure to defend her title. And Ana is not that kind of a player who play well under pressure. Vera, on the other hand will be under stress of playing both singles and doubles all the way to the final. And then it is a ryvary between these two for the 6th place in the rankings. Ana has no chance to do better the she did last year. But loss will widen the gap and it is wider already because Vera did better than she did last year. I don't expect Ana to win Miami because it will have stronger field and some big loosers from IW may may not ellect to loose there. Pretty much the same for Charleston. So in case of loss Ana will not be able to catch until almost Wimbledon. Add the fact that Ana was not really tested in IW yet. The only real threat withdwew. So it is going to be an interesting match.

MaBaker
Mar 21st, 2009, 10:21 PM
Ana easily in 2...Bepa will cry...

spiritedenergy
Mar 21st, 2009, 11:08 PM
Ana easily in 2...Bepa will cry...

:haha: I though she stopped with her crying habits:lol:

I think it's wide open, 50-50 this time. Vera plays better but Ana may have a slight mental edge being in the final of a 2-weeker. So it's a toss-up.

rucolo
Mar 21st, 2009, 11:54 PM
Here is all Vera Zvonareva tier-II and above careers finals and if You see list of her opponents (all 7 former WTA #1 players) you will see why she still dont have any decent title:

# 2004: Cincinnati (lost to #4 Lindsay Davenport 36 26)
# 2004: Philadelphia (lost to #2 Amelie Mauresmo 63 26 26)
# 2008: Doha (lost to #5 Maria Sharapova 16 62 06)
# 2008: Charleston (lost to #9 Serena Williams 46 63 36)
# 2008: Moscow (lost to #1 Jelena Janković 26 46)
# 2008: Linz (lost to Ana Ivanović 26 16)
# 2008: Doha Championships (lost to Venus Williams 76 06 26)

She won set against Mauresmo, Sharapova, Serena and Venus where all this big tennis names played in very good shape. So theory that unlucky Vera (with opponents selection in finals) has "headcase" or whatever in finals is fake. In sunday she will play once again against former #1 player, but Vera seems that plays right now careers best tennis and Ana Ivanovic careers biggest crisis and slump is probably over, but she is for sure not at her peak. All that give some nice chances Vera to win finally some big title (and 4.5M$ IW two-weekers is really big one).

I'm with Ana of course, but I dont except that this time will be easy like at Linz 5 months ago.


Exactly what I think.:D:worship:

But I hope Vera will win!:)

ChriS.
Mar 22nd, 2009, 01:08 AM
I think Vera has a good chance but it will be very tough.

bobbynorwich
Mar 22nd, 2009, 01:45 AM
Vera has been more consistent and better under pressure than Ana. The quality of their games when both playing well are equal. Hate to say it, but think it's going to be Vera.

Direwolf
Mar 22nd, 2009, 02:19 AM
If Vera is playing like she did in the YEC
then she takes this is 3 sets haha!!

José Morgado
Mar 22nd, 2009, 03:07 AM
If Vera is playing like she did in the YEC
then she takes this is 3 sets haha!!

But Ana is playng better now than in the YEC.

So, Ana in 2 sets

Balltossovic
Mar 22nd, 2009, 03:21 AM
Vera has been more consistent and better under pressure than Ana. The quality of their games when both playing well are equal. Hate to say it, but think it's going to be Vera.
I beg to differ. When both are playing well Ana would still beat Vera in two. Anything Vera has Ana has better, serve, forehand, volleys. The only advantage I would give Bepa when they're both playing well is the Backhand.

I think Ana will win.

Sander.
Mar 22nd, 2009, 04:31 AM
Ana in 3 ;)

Keadz
Mar 22nd, 2009, 04:43 AM
If both are playing their best...
Vera would have the better:
-Defense
-Volleys
-Movement
-Backhand
-Tactics

Ana would have the better
-Forehand
-Serve
-Mental toughness
-Approach shot

Both about equal on return.

BUT they aren't playing their best so Vera should win in 3 sets.

graffan20
Mar 22nd, 2009, 04:46 AM
I think Vera will win since she is on fire this tournament.

Gautier
Mar 22nd, 2009, 05:54 AM
Vera in 3

G&R
Mar 22nd, 2009, 11:47 AM
I hope vera will win this one because she deserves a big tourny like this

Davodus
Mar 22nd, 2009, 11:52 AM
i want ana to win, and i think she will

but i would be happy for vera to finally win something big

Daniel
Mar 22nd, 2009, 11:57 AM
Vera

Koon
Mar 22nd, 2009, 12:02 PM
Vera :sad:

bobbynorwich
Mar 22nd, 2009, 05:54 PM
Pollsters here giving advantage to Ana, but is that because she is better known ... or really the better player?

Dandy_Warhol
Mar 22nd, 2009, 06:00 PM
Ana in 3 please :D

Horizon
Mar 22nd, 2009, 06:12 PM
Pollsters here giving advantage to Ana, but is that because she is better known ... or really the better player?

I think most people who post on this board know who Vera Zvonereva is :confused:

rommel99
Mar 22nd, 2009, 06:15 PM
Pollsters here giving advantage to Ana, but is that because she is better known ... or really the better player?

hmmm ana won a slam and more tier 1 tournaments.. so who do you think is the better player?

Corswandt
Mar 22nd, 2009, 08:00 PM
Prediction time.

The divine Ivanovic is back at playing her brutal 1-2 or just merely 1, big serve + even bigger ROS game.

Zvonareva has been playing merely OK this whole season. Yet she is beating lower ranked opponents consistently while essentially playing within herself, which shows her confidence and sense of legitimacy as a top 10 player.

So I say this match is mercifully quick. Zvonareva will confirm her usefulness as a punching bag who nonetheless holds a ranking respectable enough to give some credibility to the proceedings, so that nobody will complain that the divine Ivanovic won this title by default. Tennis will be the winner.

Olórin
Mar 22nd, 2009, 08:05 PM
Prediction time.

The divine Ivanovic is back at playing her brutal 1-2 or just merely 1, big serve + even bigger ROS game.

Zvonareva has been playing merely OK this whole season. Yet she is beating lower ranked opponents consistently while essentially playing within herself, which shows her confidence and sense of legitimacy as a top 10 player.



:spit:

As opposed to Ana who has been playing badly for much of the season and has been OK at Indian Wells. Very scratchy tennis. She will do well to take it in two. But I think she probably will.

Epigone
Mar 22nd, 2009, 08:16 PM
Bepa will leave IW with both titles :cool:

Olórin
Mar 22nd, 2009, 09:06 PM
Good to see that tennis is winning and that the 'divine one' is being given a run for her money by the 'punch bag'.

pwayne
Mar 23rd, 2009, 02:03 AM
Bepa will leave IW with both titles :cool:

And, she did.