IW Final: Ana Ivanovic vs. Vera Zvonareva - WWW???

Well???

Vera please win

i think fist, veras moonballing cant trouble the big girls. :o

Now my poll has more comments than the other one :)

[That was in response to the first comment. Not the one above. I was waiting to see which one of us got a comment first :)]

Zvonareva:
2R - def. #63 Chan 62 62
3R - def. #46 Kvitova 63 61
4R - def. #45 Li 64 64
QF - def. #13 Wozniacki 64 62
SF - def. #11 Azarenka 63 63

Ivanovic:
2R - def. #95 Yakimova 64 63
3R - def. #36 Dulko 63 63
4R - def. #15 Pennetta 64 46 64
QF - def. #29 Bammer W/O
SF - def. #42 Pavlyuchenkova 62 63

Vera's had the better run, but I fear Ana's forehand will be too big. Vera's by definition a bad matchup for Ana, but we'll see. I hope she can get over her big final syndrome and take it home. It would be a somewhat pleasant end to an otherwise dire tournament.

Vera's wins have been more comprehensive over players that were very dangerous
Ana knows how to win big. Ana wins this one.

What a boring and typical final after such an exciting first week...

I hope she can get over her big final syndrome and take it home. It would be a somewhat pleasant end to an otherwise dire tournament.

oh it would indead :hearts:

Please win, Ana.

Davai Bepa :rocker2:

I hope Vera, in three.

Would be nice for Vera to finally win something big, but I think and hope Ana will take it.

Vera won the last meeting in 3 setters. I think it will be the same case this time.

Here is all Vera Zvonareva tier-II and above careers finals and if You see list of her opponents (all 7 former WTA #1 players) you will see why she still dont have any decent title:

# 2004: Cincinnati (lost to #4 Lindsay Davenport 36 26)
# 2004: Philadelphia (lost to #2 Amelie Mauresmo 63 26 26)
# 2008: Doha (lost to #5 Maria Sharapova 16 62 06)
# 2008: Charleston (lost to #9 Serena Williams 46 63 36)
# 2008: Moscow (lost to #1 Jelena Janković 26 46)
# 2008: Linz (lost to Ana Ivanović 26 16)
# 2008: Doha Championships (lost to Venus Williams 76 06 26)

She won set against Mauresmo, Sharapova, Serena and Venus where all this big tennis names played in very good shape. So theory that unlucky Vera (with opponents selection in finals) has "headcase" or whatever in finals is fake. In sunday she will play once again against former #1 player, but Vera seems that plays right now careers best tennis and Ana Ivanovic careers biggest crisis and slump is probably over, but she is for sure not at her peak. All that give some nice chances Vera to win finally some big title (and 4.5M$ IW two-weekers is really big one).

I'm with Ana of course, but I dont except that this time will be easy like at Linz 5 months ago.

Vera is going down. The only way Russians can win big titles is if her last name is Sharapova or the other player is also Russian, because only one can lose. :devil:

I originally predicted that the winner of the Elena/Ana QF would win the title. Elena even didn't make it that far, so I have to go with Ana by process of elimination.

Ana will win this and Vera will go through her typical emotional outbursts on the court. :lol:

Vera will win in three (she finally has to win a good title!)

I hope Ana can and will win this.

In 3 :)

I think this poll is unnecessary :o Vera officially sucks in finals :help: :sad:

Ivanovic 6-3 6-2

Vera, I hope : inlove: :inlove:

All this TF Polls results are still big secret for me. Ivanovic is traditionally (most) underrated player here in polls, but against red-hot in-form Zvonareva Ana got 70% votes so far. Real bookmakers odds (W.Hill for example) give Zvonareva-1.67, Ivanovic-2.20 odds for this final.

I Will repeat once again list of all Vera Zvonareva TIER-II or ABOVE careers finals:

# 2004: Cincinnati (lost to #4 Lindsay Davenport 36 26)
# 2004: Philadelphia (lost to #2 Amelie Mauresmo 63 26 26)
# 2008: Doha (lost to #5 Maria Sharapova 16 62 06)
# 2008: Charleston (lost to #9 Serena Williams 46 63 36)
# 2008: Moscow (lost to #1 Jelena Janković 26 46)
# 2008: Linz (lost to Ana Ivanović 26 16)
# 2008: Doha Championships (lost to Venus Williams 76 06 26)
# 2009: Indian Wells (******* Ana Ivanovic *******)


She is simple so unlucky that all her opponents are some of 18 WTA players which ever reach #1 spot in open era... so we don't have any really good proof of that "VERA IS HEADCASE IN BIG FINALS" theory? Where out of all this tournaments Vera should win? For example at "big finals" (tier-II and above) Anna Chakvetadze won 3 out of 4 which she played so far (75%, very good), but she must to play against Petrova, Mirza, Szavay and Wozniacki, where only Petrove ever reach TOP10, and Vera will play again (8th time in the row) against some opponent from WTA#1 Hall Of Fame List. So don't tell me Chaky>>>Vera in big finals b/c no relevant proofs for that - 75% vs 0% means nothing if You just look list of opponents.

According to Bookmakers: Vera-57% , Ana-43%
According to this Poll: Vera-30% , Ana-70%
Truth is probably between: Vera-45% , Ana-55% (IMO)

In October of last season when Ana and Vera playing Linz final Zvonareva "beat" Ana in WWW Poll here 56% vs 44% (http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=360898) without reason b/c Vera has status of WTA average TOP10 player, and Ana (WTA#1 two months before) seems like player which finally go away all that problems with slump connected to thumb injury, so no big surprise when Ana trashed her. But after that final in last 4-5 months Ana played like player in deep crisis without any decent result and Vera reach two careers best results YEC-Final and GS-SF. So what is so changed in perception of TennisForum voters to be so pesimistic this time about Vera chances? She trashed all her IW opponents in straigh sets, including 63 61 64 62 63 62 wins vs WTA biggest hopes Kvitova, Wozniacki and Azarenka, and Ana playing just against one TOP30 opponent (Pennetta) and won that match in tough three-setter!

Ana should win in 2 sets unless she falls over in the stands amongst the spectators trying to retrieve one of her crazy ball tosses :lol:

Vera in 2 ^^

Ana 7-5, 6-4

take the title vera...

cmon Vera, time to win a real tourney :armed:

Ana in 3.

Ana will win 60 76.

Zvonareva:
2R - def. #63 Chan 62 62
3R - def. #46 Kvitova 63 61
4R - def. #45 Li 64 64
QF - def. #13 Wozniacki 64 62
SF - def. #11 Azarenka 63 63

Ivanovic:
2R - def. #95 Yakimova 64 63
3R - def. #36 Dulko 63 63
4R - def. #15 Pennetta 64 46 64
QF - def. #29 Bammer W/O
SF - def. #42 Pavlyuchenkova 62 63

Vera's had the better run, but I fear Ana's forehand will be too big. Vera's by definition a bad matchup for Ana, but we'll see. I hope she can get over her big final syndrome and take it home. It would be a somewhat pleasant end to an otherwise dire tournament.

Ana's run :help:

That's a tier three draw at best :help:

Ana in 3

Ana's run :help:

That's a tier three draw at best :help:

It's not Ana's fault, that the players she beat actually beat the opponents she was seeded to play :)

bepa in 3

Ana is in good form in Indian Wells..She will defend her title after the scoreline 7-5 2-6 6-3

Head says Squeaky, but I'd love to see Bepa get a big scalp.

Vera in 3!!!!!!

Hopefully Ana , although Vera winning would be a fitting end to the worst IW ever.

Not sure. It may just be Vera's time to break through with a big win.

I like them both.

Vera win this plzzz!!!

Not sure. It may just be Vera's time to break through with a big win.

I like them both.

Who cares?
I hope Vera will win, Ana's run wasn't impressive at all, she is so lucky with draws:mad:

Who cares?
I hope Vera will win, Ana's run wasn't impressive at all, she is so lucky with draws:mad:



:tape: You're such a troll.

Ana easily

Vera will finally win a title above a Tier III in 3 sets.

Does anyone else get the feeling that Ana has just stumbled and found her self in a Tier I final :lol:

I think Vera's form is in a slight decline while Ana may be on the rise, so my vote is on Ana in 3. It is very difficult call, however, so anything may happen. I like both players although neither of them is my favorite, but I will be happy with any result as long as the match will be a good event to watch and it will satisfy my craving for good tennis. :) Good luck to both

It depends on how many UEs Ana makes perhaps. If she makes little errors, then she wins because she's too aggressive for Vera. Otherwise it's Vera coz she's hitting everything cleanly. Given Ana's new-found confidence, I'd say Ana in 3. Don't mind who wins and I expect a good match. Ana can gain confidence by defending a title and Vera deserves winning something big. Lucky they save face for top seeds.

Ana will trash Vera :shrug:

Ana wins 2-6, 6-4, 6-3.

Rootig for Vera but Ana seems really strong right night now!

Ana in 2 :)

Good luck Vera! :)

I just hope it's competitive and good :shrug:

Ana 64 64 :sad:. It's sad that a player has to play average tennis to win a Super Tier I or whatever it is called now.

cmon vera.....

I'm really surprised to see Ana in the final :confused:
But really happy about it :bounce: Ana in 2 :D Ajde Ana!!!!

I just hope Vera wins as Ana has done practically fuck all to get this far.

Ana 6-1 7-5
Ajde babygurl :rocker2:

Vera has faced tougher opposition but I dunno If she will win.

Bepa will need to have a fairly high% of 1st serves in as squeaky will attack her vunerable 2nd ones:help:I do dream of squeaky knocking herself half silly by hitting herself in the jaw with a misstimed one of her enormous celebratory ajde uppercuts!

Ana should win in 2 sets unless she falls over in the stands amongst the spectators trying to retrieve one of her crazy ball tosses :lol:


So mean :sad:

Does anyone else get the feeling that Ana has just stumbled and found her self in a Tier I final :lol:

:lol: Yeah.

I think Vera will lose the final as always:sad::sad:

Ana in 3:bounce:!

Ana in 2 :bounce:

Who cares?
I hope Vera will win, Ana's run wasn't impressive at all, she is so lucky with draws:mad:

Not her fault Elena a player Ana has never beaten who would have been Ana's QF opponent lost to Cetkovska ffs. And that Jelena lost to the player Ana comfortably beat in the SF.

Ana will be under huge pressure to defend her title. And Ana is not that kind of a player who play well under pressure. Vera, on the other hand will be under stress of playing both singles and doubles all the way to the final. And then it is a ryvary between these two for the 6th place in the rankings. Ana has no chance to do better the she did last year. But loss will widen the gap and it is wider already because Vera did better than she did last year. I don't expect Ana to win Miami because it will have stronger field and some big loosers from IW may may not ellect to loose there. Pretty much the same for Charleston. So in case of loss Ana will not be able to catch until almost Wimbledon. Add the fact that Ana was not really tested in IW yet. The only real threat withdwew. So it is going to be an interesting match.

Ana easily in 2...Bepa will cry...

Ana easily in 2...Bepa will cry...

:haha: I though she stopped with her crying habits:lol:

I think it's wide open, 50-50 this time. Vera plays better but Ana may have a slight mental edge being in the final of a 2-weeker. So it's a toss-up.

Here is all Vera Zvonareva tier-II and above careers finals and if You see list of her opponents (all 7 former WTA #1 players) you will see why she still dont have any decent title:

# 2004: Cincinnati (lost to #4 Lindsay Davenport 36 26)
# 2004: Philadelphia (lost to #2 Amelie Mauresmo 63 26 26)
# 2008: Doha (lost to #5 Maria Sharapova 16 62 06)
# 2008: Charleston (lost to #9 Serena Williams 46 63 36)
# 2008: Moscow (lost to #1 Jelena Janković 26 46)
# 2008: Linz (lost to Ana Ivanović 26 16)
# 2008: Doha Championships (lost to Venus Williams 76 06 26)

She won set against Mauresmo, Sharapova, Serena and Venus where all this big tennis names played in very good shape. So theory that unlucky Vera (with opponents selection in finals) has "headcase" or whatever in finals is fake. In sunday she will play once again against former #1 player, but Vera seems that plays right now careers best tennis and Ana Ivanovic careers biggest crisis and slump is probably over, but she is for sure not at her peak. All that give some nice chances Vera to win finally some big title (and 4.5M$ IW two-weekers is really big one).

I'm with Ana of course, but I dont except that this time will be easy like at Linz 5 months ago.


Exactly what I think.:D:worship:

But I hope Vera will win!:)

I think Vera has a good chance but it will be very tough.

Vera has been more consistent and better under pressure than Ana. The quality of their games when both playing well are equal. Hate to say it, but think it's going to be Vera.

If Vera is playing like she did in the YEC
then she takes this is 3 sets haha!!

If Vera is playing like she did in the YEC
then she takes this is 3 sets haha!!

But Ana is playng better now than in the YEC.

So, Ana in 2 sets

Vera has been more consistent and better under pressure than Ana. The quality of their games when both playing well are equal. Hate to say it, but think it's going to be Vera.
I beg to differ. When both are playing well Ana would still beat Vera in two. Anything Vera has Ana has better, serve, forehand, volleys. The only advantage I would give Bepa when they're both playing well is the Backhand.

I think Ana will win.

Ana in 3 ;)

If both are playing their best...
Vera would have the better:
-Defense
-Volleys
-Movement
-Backhand
-Tactics

Ana would have the better
-Forehand
-Serve
-Mental toughness
-Approach shot

Both about equal on return.

BUT they aren't playing their best so Vera should win in 3 sets.

I think Vera will win since she is on fire this tournament.

Vera in 3

I hope vera will win this one because she deserves a big tourny like this

i want ana to win, and i think she will

but i would be happy for vera to finally win something big

Vera

Vera :sad:

Pollsters here giving advantage to Ana, but is that because she is better known ... or really the better player?

Ana in 3 please :D

Pollsters here giving advantage to Ana, but is that because she is better known ... or really the better player?

I think most people who post on this board know who Vera Zvonereva is :confused:

Pollsters here giving advantage to Ana, but is that because she is better known ... or really the better player?

hmmm ana won a slam and more tier 1 tournaments.. so who do you think is the better player?

Prediction time.

The divine Ivanovic is back at playing her brutal 1-2 or just merely 1, big serve + even bigger ROS game.

Zvonareva has been playing merely OK this whole season. Yet she is beating lower ranked opponents consistently while essentially playing within herself, which shows her confidence and sense of legitimacy as a top 10 player.

So I say this match is mercifully quick. Zvonareva will confirm her usefulness as a punching bag who nonetheless holds a ranking respectable enough to give some credibility to the proceedings, so that nobody will complain that the divine Ivanovic won this title by default. Tennis will be the winner.

Prediction time.

The divine Ivanovic is back at playing her brutal 1-2 or just merely 1, big serve + even bigger ROS game.

Zvonareva has been playing merely OK this whole season. Yet she is beating lower ranked opponents consistently while essentially playing within herself, which shows her confidence and sense of legitimacy as a top 10 player.



:spit:

As opposed to Ana who has been playing badly for much of the season and has been OK at Indian Wells. Very scratchy tennis. She will do well to take it in two. But I think she probably will.

Bepa will leave IW with both titles :cool:

Good to see that tennis is winning and that the 'divine one' is being given a run for her money by the 'punch bag'.

Bepa will leave IW with both titles :cool:

And, she did.