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David_Webb
Mar 19th, 2009, 04:58 PM
How many times has Maria had shoulder surgery, on the same shoulder? If it doesn’t work this time (and it doesn’t appear as if it has) could this be the last we see of Maria?

She's trying to save herself for Wimbledon but, if she's a no-show by then....

Come back soon Maria

volta
Mar 19th, 2009, 04:58 PM
no

jimbo mack
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:02 PM
people said steffi would never come back after injury in 1997
the same for serena and venus 2003
same for justine (illness) and kim 2004

and they all came back the following year :)

maria will be fine

Direwolf
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:05 PM
shes gonna come back for the clay right!!
if she does...
then...
it would be really cool
to see her win FO before she REtires
hehe

The Dawntreader
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:06 PM
:yawn:

It's not that tedious.

Direwolf
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:09 PM
people said steffi would never come back after injury in 1997
the same for serena and venus 2003
same for justine (illness) and kim 2004

and they all came back the following year :)

maria will be fine


these women are very very athletic
compared to Sharapova...
i think it would take Sharapova 2 years atleast...
she should be ok by next indian wells...

joão.
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:09 PM
Yes.



:weirdo:

David_Webb
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:10 PM
Maria’s never going to win the French Open, she just doesn’t have the game to do so, and the mentality. She doesn’t care about the French anyway, yes, she she’s she does but, she’s just being uber professional.

How many times has Maria had surgery on the very same shoulder? I can’t believe that so many people have their heads buried in the sand when it comes to this issue. Okay, the ‘blinkered fan boys’ will always cry never but, the realists can always see the big picture.

Btw, I’m a Maria fan, so don’t try to distort the facts

AndreConrad
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:12 PM
I hope not. I do hope she is taking the necessary time to recover and come back for good. I am little worried about her fitness after seeing some of pictures from IW, but perhaps they were just bad pictures. Maria is a big girl and that could be an inhibitor.

Rumkin
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:13 PM
no.

nelsondan
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:18 PM
Carpenter looks good
By Derrick Goold
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
03/19/2009

JUPITER, Fla. -- Cardinals manager Tony La Russa has alternated from waxing optimistic to openly swooning over what he's called the exciting and effective appearances of rehabbing ace Chris Carpenter this spring training.


The righthander became the first Cardinals starter this spring to throw a pitch in the sixth inning as he needed just 64 pitches to collect 18 outs from the Baltimore Orioles at Roger Dean Stadium. He paced a 3-2 victory that took only 1 hour, 49 minutes to complete. The Orioles put 17 balls in play, and only one was in the air, a popup in foul territory to first baseman Albert Pujols. Carpenter struck out two and allowed three hits, all three of which were grounders that threaded between infielders.



He has yet to give up a run in 14 innings this spring.

Carpenter hasn't won a game since the 2006 World Series.

"It's realistic to be optimistic with what he's done," pitching coach Dave Duncan said. "Not (excited). Not yet. I want to get to a few starts in the season."

ImaVeggie
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:20 PM
How many times do you think she's had surgery on her shoulder? I'm under the impression that she had only one operation.

HRHoliviasmith
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:21 PM
i hope and pray for nelsondan's sake that she does come back....soon.

sweetpeas
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:22 PM
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people said steffi would never come back after injury in 1997
the same for serena and venus 2003
same for justine (illness) and kim 2004

and they all came back the following year

maria will be fine
__________________I hope so!:wavey::bounce:

saniapower
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:23 PM
Yes. RIP.

David_Webb
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:26 PM
How many times do you think she's had surgery on her shoulder? I'm under the impression that she had only one operation.

Specialists told her…her shoulder was fine and healing, until she visited other ‘Specialists’ and they informed her that the injury hadn’t healed properly and she need more extensive surgery which was performed last year…am I the only one in the know on here or what? I thought you peeps knew what these players ate for breakfast?

Ksenia.
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:28 PM
How many times has Maria had shoulder surgery, on the same shoulder?One?

Ciarán
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:28 PM
No. :rolleyes:

BuTtErFrEnA
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:29 PM
:weirdo: of course....

nelsondan
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:35 PM
i hope and pray for nelsondan's sake that she does come back....soon.


I will be ok. I am a fan of Kurt Warner. I have to consider that injuries can be serious. I have to consider that an athlete has to make highly personal choices about when to call it a day.

I have selfish needs regarding Kurt and Maria. But, ultimately, I root for them to have good lives.

The conflicting mixed signals about what is to happen next, are what gets me down. It can be a roller coaster.

Aravanecaravan
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:36 PM
How many times has Maria had shoulder surgery, on the same shoulder? If it doesn’t work this time (and it doesn’t appear as if it has) could this be the last we see of Maria?

She's trying to save herself for Wimbledon but, if she's a no-show by then....

Come back soon Maria

Get your facts straight.

She had one surgery.

Maria first injured her shoulder in late 2006. She came public about it later in the Spring of 2007. She tried a variety of non-surgical treatments, including cortisone injections, which gave her some relief around the time of the French Open 2007. The effects of cortisone last about 3 weeks. She played the balance of 2007 with lingering shoulder pain. After taking some time off after the USO in 2007, she played well in the YEC. MOre rest at the end of 2007 let her play the 2008 AO relatively pain-free. At IW in 2008, she re-injured her shoulder in one of her early matches. She played hurt the balance of her 2008 season until sustaining a tear of the rotator cuff tendon at the Rogers Cup, which ended her season. She tried rest and therapy, which were not working as hoped, so finally she elected to have surgery to repair the tendon last Fall. Since that time she has been recovering from surgery, undergoing therapy to try to get some strength back, and most recently, gotten on the court to begin practicing again.

As I said in another thread, 99% of you have no clue what it is she is going through. This is no different than an athlete who tears an ACL/MCL and is "done for the season". It takes, typically, a year FROM SURGERY to be fully recovered from something of this nature. Some bodies will heal quicker, some slower. Just because you might be "pain free" doesn't mean that you're ready to go back to whatever it is you did before. You have to re-train your muscles. It's a cumulative effect--not only did the tendon get ruptured, but she wasn't able to train so she lost a great deal of muscle. To get back to where she was, she needs to put the time in not only on the court but also the gym. It was not realistic to expect her back so soon.

HRHoliviasmith
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:40 PM
I will be ok. I am a fan of Kurt Warner. I have to consider that injuries can be serious. I have to consider that an athlete has to make highly personal choices about when to call it a day.

I have selfish needs regarding Kurt and Maria. But, ultimately, I root for them to have good lives.

The conflicting mixed signals about what is to happen next, are what gets me down. It can be a roller coaster.

:hug:

kurt warner is an inspiration :worship:
but i'm glad Pittsburgh won and NE before that. I hate the Rams!

goldenlox
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:50 PM
Now she says she's pointing for Rome. Even if she's out until next March, she'll be 22 then, not 35

Her shoulder is said to be progressing nicely and she was pleased that at Indian Wells, she was able to hit fairly high service speeds.
Three-time Grand Slam champion Sharapova, who has said that she won’t be comfortable returning in singles until she can contest two of three set matches for a minimum of seven days in a row, is also planning on competing at the new tournament in Madrid the week after Rome, and at Roland Garros.

David_Webb
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:59 PM
Get your facts straight.

She had one surgery.

Maria first injured her shoulder in late 2006. She came public about it later in the Spring of 2007. She tried a variety of non-surgical treatments, including cortisone injections, which gave her some relief around the time of the French Open 2007. The effects of cortisone last about 3 weeks. She played the balance of 2007 with lingering shoulder pain. After taking some time off after the USO in 2007, she played well in the YEC. MOre rest at the end of 2007 let her play the 2008 AO relatively pain-free. At IW in 2008, she re-injured her shoulder in one of her early matches. She played hurt the balance of her 2008 season until sustaining a tear of the rotator cuff tendon at the Rogers Cup, which ended her season. She tried rest and therapy, which were not working as hoped, so finally she elected to have surgery to repair the tendon last Fall. Since that time she has been recovering from surgery, undergoing therapy to try to get some strength back, and most recently, gotten on the court to begin practicing again.

As I said in another thread, 99% of you have no clue what it is she is going through. This is no different than an athlete who tears an ACL/MCL and is "done for the season". It takes, typically, a year FROM SURGERY to be fully recovered from something of this nature. Some bodies will heal quicker, some slower. Just because you might be "pain free" doesn't mean that you're ready to go back to whatever it is you did before. You have to re-train your muscles. It's a cumulative effect--not only did the tendon get ruptured, but she wasn't able to train so she lost a great deal of muscle. To get back to where she was, she needs to put the time in not only on the court but also the gym. It was not realistic to expect her back so soon.

Actually you’re wrong, Maria Sharapova had shoulder surgery in October 2008. Maria Sharapova revealed on her website that she had arthroscopic surgery on her right shoulder two months ago. And that’s before she withdrew from Tokyo...this year
The right-handed Sharapova, 21, missed the U.S. Open and hasn't played since the first week of August when she pulled out in the second round of an event in Montreal....

You must be in the 99% who doesn't have a clue what's going on with your favourite player. It's plain to see that the rotator cuff surgery hasn't worked....it worked short-term when Maria showed her best when winning the US Open but, sadly, the injury has comeback to haunt her....as David Martin stated 'But what about the shoulder? Her serve was one of her biggest weapons. Stripped of a powerful delivery, Maria Sharapova becomes Elena Dementieva -- a good, but not great, player. (Indeed, I'd probably pick Dementieva in that head-to-head scenario.)

David Martin: 'I'm also reminded of a conversation I had with Sharapova last spring in Manhattan. I asked her if she saw herself competing well into her 20s. After flashing me an "Are you kidding?" look, she emphatically dismissed the idea, saying she didn't see herself as one of those careerist tennis types.

But that was before rotator cuff surgery. Perhaps the extended layoff has changed her outlook. Perhaps it has ignited a newfound passion for tennis. She'll need one, because it doesn't take much for this sport to pass you by.

Rumkin
Mar 19th, 2009, 06:09 PM
Well if you know her condition about her shoulder so well then why do you ask :rolleyes: Yes I'm a big masha fan but even I think that some people need to stop being so dramatic about it. She will be fine, have some patience.

ImaVeggie
Mar 19th, 2009, 06:10 PM
You must be in the 99% who doesn't have a clue what's going on with your favourite player. It's plain to see that the rotator cuff surgery hasn't worked....it worked short-term when Maria showed her best when winning the US Open but, sadly, the injury has comeback to haunt her....[/I][/B]


I believe you may be the one who doesn't have a clue. I do not believe that you are correct in stating that she had surgery on her shoulder back in 2006.

David_Webb
Mar 19th, 2009, 06:18 PM
Well if you know her condition about her shoulder so well then why do you ask :rolleyes: Yes I'm a big masha fan but even I think that some people need to stop being so dramatic about it. She will be fine, have some patience.

I'm as big a Maria fan as the next but, the way things are going....there's more chance of Rags To Riches making a comeback...

David_Webb
Mar 19th, 2009, 06:28 PM
Now she says she's pointing for Rome. Even if she's out until next March, she'll be 22 then, not 35

Her shoulder is said to be progressing nicely and she was pleased that at Indian Wells, she was able to hit fairly high service speeds.
Three-time Grand Slam champion Sharapova, who has said that she won’t be comfortable returning in singles until she can contest two of three set matches for a minimum of seven days in a row, is also planning on competing at the new tournament in Madrid the week after Rome, and at Roland Garros.

She would be better off point towards Lourdes....Sharapova:Unfortunately after my 10 weeks of shoulder rehab, I started hitting and serving again and I still felt the same exact pain that I have had in my shoulder since March," the American-trained Russian said....over 2 months ago

Larrybidd
Mar 19th, 2009, 06:33 PM
I'm as big a Maria fan as the next but, the way things are going....there's more chance of Rags To Riches making a comeback...

And I'm saying that none of us has a crystal ball to tell us what the future holds. And none of us has access to Sharapova's medical records and the expertise to interpret them even if we did (you included, I'm safe to say).

My guess is that given that she's young and the state of modern medicine, she should be back in time. Everybody should just take a breath and give her that time, instead of running off to make wild dire conclusions based on speculation.

Jovana.
Mar 19th, 2009, 06:34 PM
omg stop dramatizing ! it's an injury,it takes time, she's not 40 years old, she's still young and will be back. Dont make speculations based on articles, no one really knows how the progress is going. she'll be back, there's still time, not the bloody end of the world.

nelsondan
Mar 19th, 2009, 06:38 PM
My mention of Chris Carpenter was a non sequiter---his situation has been complicated by elbow surgery, and nerve problems in his shoulder---but the common thread is that athletes often second guess even the best medical opinions, because these things are complicated, sometimes with one medical thing affecting another.

There seems to be a fine line about deciding when it would be most helpful to do more physically, to gain more strength, more muscle and endurance, as opposed to doing less, making sure complete healing is taking place.

I wonder if Maria's decision to want 2 of 3 sets for an entire week without pain is her idea, her trainer's or her physicians'.

Cakeisgood
Mar 19th, 2009, 06:39 PM
She would be better off point towards Lourdes....Sharapova:Unfortunately after my 10 weeks of shoulder rehab, I started hitting and serving again and I still felt the same exact pain that I have had in my shoulder since March," the American-trained Russian said....over 2 months ago

Rehab is strength training. NOT surgery. Don't go around berating people for their lack of knowledge when you are clearly incorrect.

She has had ONE surgery. The other times she had been resting the shoulder and did exercises to try to heal the shoulder on its own. It didn't work, therefore, she needed surgery.

Please stop arguing with everyone on this board who have been here for far longer than you, and have discussed this extensively.

David_Webb
Mar 19th, 2009, 06:42 PM
And I'm saying that none of us has a crystal ball to tell us what the future holds. And none of us has access to Sharapova's medical records and the expertise to interpret them even if we did (you included, I'm safe to say).

My guess is that given that she's young and the state of modern medicine, she should be back in time. Everybody should just take a breath and give her that time, instead of running off to make wild dire conclusions based on speculation.

None of what I have stated is based on speculation of pure fantasy….it’s based purely on medical evidence and solid fact...it's all documented and endorsed by Maria herself...and in the words of Maria after she met with Dr. David Altchek (the premier shoulder doctor in the world)....The doctor couldn’t believe she was playing that long with her injury. (How much longterm damage has been done?)
"You can imagine that I was not very thrilled to hear that my medical team did not see this tear in my shoulder back in April," It's a shame, even when you have as much money as Sharapova you receive false diagnosis.

dexx80
Mar 19th, 2009, 06:43 PM
i am sure she will be fine. she is still very young and have many years and slams in front of her. i expect her to be dominant number one in future.

Warrior
Mar 19th, 2009, 06:44 PM
It's been 5 month since the surgery. The standard recovery time is what? Six month?

David_Webb
Mar 19th, 2009, 06:49 PM
Rehab is strength training. NOT surgery. Don't go around berating people for their lack of knowledge when you are clearly incorrect.

She has had ONE surgery. The other times she had been resting the shoulder and did exercises to try to heal the shoulder on its own. It didn't work, therefore, she needed surgery.

Please stop arguing with everyone on this board who have been here for far longer than you, and have discussed this extensively.

Maria Sharapova had.... arthroscopic surgery in New York on Oct. 15.

Okay... I understand it’s nowhere near as serious as your lobotomy but, it’s surgery nonetheless…

ImaVeggie
Mar 19th, 2009, 06:53 PM
Maria Sharapova had.... arthroscopic surgery in New York on Oct. 15.


and this is the only shoulder surgery she had.

Cakeisgood
Mar 19th, 2009, 06:58 PM
Maria Sharapova had.... arthroscopic surgery in New York on Oct. 15.

Okay... I understand it’s nowhere near as serious as your lobotomy but, it’s surgery nonetheless…

Wow, you waltz in here, nose held high, determined that you are right in your clearly false facts and berate others for their utter lack of knowledge.

We've had this conversation in millions of threads, and there has only been one surgery. One as in 1.

You're really making a great first impression on the lot of posters here, insulting their knowledge, and the lobotomy thing? I bet you think you're so witty by seamlessly integrating a surgical joke :rolleyes:. Learn to construct an argument based on the issues at hand, instead of a feeble attempt at "personally" attacking me and my intelligence.

Do us all a favor and click "Log Out". k thx bye :wavey:

VeeReeDavJCap81
Mar 19th, 2009, 07:00 PM
When did Maria have surgery? I thought the whole reason why she was out was to rehab so she wouldn't have to have surgery. I must be late :lol:

Sammm
Mar 19th, 2009, 07:02 PM
She can serve with the left instead?

Cakeisgood
Mar 19th, 2009, 07:02 PM
When did Maria have surgery? I thought the whole reason why she was out was to rehab so she wouldn't have to have surgery. I must be late :lol:

haha she had a minor one about five months ago.

A little late :lol::lol::lol:

ballykissangel
Mar 19th, 2009, 07:06 PM
maria have one comeback maby two and then she not play forever,,,,so sad

DOUBLEFIST
Mar 19th, 2009, 07:07 PM
When did Maria have surgery? I thought the whole reason why she was out was to rehab so she wouldn't have to have surgery. I must be late :lol:

She snuck it in there.

PREDICTION:

Maria makes her return at Wimbledon.

Is the media darling.

Plays well, but the shoulder begins to bother her halfway through.

Makes it deep into the tourny (semis, not finals). By then shoulder is truly painful.

Loses to Azarenka. (Miraculously, for Maria, Williams Sisters are on the other side of the draw)

1 month later, Maria announces retirement.

Noctis
Mar 19th, 2009, 07:13 PM
shes gonna come back for the clay right!!
if she does...
then...
it would be really cool
to see her win FO before she REtires
hehe

I YAWN BECAUSE I KNOW SHES OBVIOUSLY COMING BACK YOU TOOL
SO THERES NO NEED FO A THREAD :help:
BR cos i am Her fan too.

court70
Mar 19th, 2009, 07:22 PM
Specialists told her…her shoulder was fine and healing, until she visited other ‘Specialists’ and they informed her that the injury hadn’t healed properly and she need more extensive surgery which was performed last year…am I the only one in the know on here or what? I thought you peeps knew what these players ate for breakfast?

What extensive surgery are you talking about from an article I read the surgery took 12mins. give me a break and stop embelishing information to make it seems like she's more injured than she really is. This is maria's way out of tennis the girl has millions of $ and she probably feels she does not need to be sweating herself on any darn tennis court..so this is her way to quit the game and easy herself out of it.

cyannnnn
Mar 19th, 2009, 07:45 PM
she will come in RG.
she doesn't want to injure her shoulder again and she want the RG the only title she never win
she is going to train clay until RG like sampras does before her but sampras never win RG:sad:
i hope maria will win

cn ireland
Mar 19th, 2009, 07:50 PM
Maria will be back, hopefully sooner rather than later:)!

I'm still hoping for a Dokic-Sharapova Wimbledon final this year:hearts:!

Markus
Mar 19th, 2009, 08:07 PM
I'm still hoping for a Dokic-Sharapova Wimbledon final this year:hearts:!
Now that's what I call really optimistic :lol: You have to bet on this and will be very wealthy if your prediction comes true...

cn ireland
Mar 19th, 2009, 08:12 PM
Now that's what I call really optimistic :lol: You have to bet on this and will be very wealthy if your prediction comes true...

Highly unlikely I know, but I live in hope;)! It'd be my dream final:hearts:!

VeeReeDavJCap81
Mar 19th, 2009, 08:13 PM
haha she had a minor one about five months ago.

A little late :lol::lol::lol:

Oh my bad :lol: Well people should give her some time to recover before writing her off. She did attempt to play doubles in IW so she's not done.

pov
Mar 19th, 2009, 08:34 PM
Specialists told her…her shoulder was fine and healing, until she visited other ‘Specialists’ and they informed her that the injury hadn’t healed properly and she need more extensive surgery which was performed last year…am I the only one in the know on here or what? I thought you peeps knew what these players ate for breakfast?
Yep, you're the only one in the know. Thing is that what you "know" is wrong. As most people know the facts are that Sharapova was originally told the shoulder could be healed with special rehab - without any surgery. That didn't work and she had arthoscopic surgery in mid-Oct. Oh and BTW - "Repair of a rotator cuff tendon or shoulder dislocation usually takes four to six months to heal well enough for a return to full activity."

Here's a tip for you - get the facts, lose the 'tude

Matt01
Mar 19th, 2009, 09:05 PM
i am sure she will be fine. she is still very young and have many years and slams in front of her. i expect her to be dominant number one in future.


One word: Delusional.

Yes, it is possible that we have already seen the last of Pova, because her injury IS career-threatening, but it is also possible she starts a real comeback later this year (not the pathetic attempt that we've seen at IW) and MAYBE can come close to her old level of play again.

Mashafaaaaan
Mar 19th, 2009, 09:16 PM
not the pathetic attempt that we've seen at IW

It wasn't an attempt:rolleyes:and since when it's inconceivable to think Maria can dominate, the girl is 21. She has surely many years front of her.

Matt01
Mar 19th, 2009, 09:21 PM
It wasn't an attempt:rolleyes:


Then what was it? The begin of a new formidable career in doubles?

Cakeisgood
Mar 19th, 2009, 09:25 PM
Then what was it? The begin of a new formidable career in doubles?

More of a dip in the shallow end to test the shoulder. I wouldn't call it a comeback or even a return of competitive tennis by any means.

Mashafaaaaan
Mar 19th, 2009, 09:30 PM
Then what was it? The begin of a new formidable career in doubles?

I'm sure about 1 thing, she doesn't even care about this match, she was just there to have some fun. Since when double is important for Maria, she was just there to test her shoulder.

Craig.
Mar 19th, 2009, 09:35 PM
One word: Delusional.

Yes, it is possible that we have already seen the last of Pova, because her injury IS career-threatening, but it is also possible she starts a real comeback later this year (not the pathetic attempt that we've seen at IW) and MAYBE can come close to her old level of play again.

:weirdo: :rolls:

Just get the fuck outta here. :o

Dan23
Mar 20th, 2009, 12:34 AM
How many times has Maria had shoulder surgery, on the same shoulder?
1 :o

slamchamp
Mar 20th, 2009, 12:43 AM
Maria won't give up! you go masha:worship:

Andy.
Mar 20th, 2009, 01:21 AM
Talk about overeaction. This is a serious injury which requires patients and hard work if she wants to retyrn to the tour healthy and ready to go. I think Maria is doing just fine and is very motivated to return.